<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Human Terms Apply Podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>HUMAN TERMS APPLY PODCAST<br />with Jalen &amp; Ren<br /><br />Making sense of technology and the human side of change.<br /><br />Technology always changes how we work, think, create, and connect. But just because something new seems like the new norm doesn't mean we've figured out what it means for us.<br /><br />We're Jalen and Ren, two AI coaches with different backgrounds and perspectives. Jalen brings a technical lens, while Ren approaches technology through business, human behavior, and organizational change.<br /><br />Together, we explore the questions emerging technology - particularly AI - raises about our lives, careers, creativity, relationships, and the future of work.<br /><br />From AI adoption and automation to the changing meaning of expertise, trust, and authenticity, we bring real experiences, different perspectives, and plenty of curiosity to the conversation.<br /><br />Subscribe and join the conversation.</p>]]></description><link>https://riverside.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 11:46:06 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/o6brX26E.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Jalen Gonel & Ren Stead]]></author><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 00:56:33 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Jalen Gonel & Ren Stead]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Society & Culture]]></category><category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category><itunes:author>Jalen Gonel &amp; Ren Stead</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;HUMAN TERMS APPLY PODCAST&lt;br /&gt;with Jalen &amp;amp; Ren&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Making sense of technology and the human side of change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Technology always changes how we work, think, create, and connect. But just because something new seems like the new norm doesn&apos;t mean we&apos;ve figured out what it means for us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&apos;re Jalen and Ren, two AI coaches with different backgrounds and perspectives. Jalen brings a technical lens, while Ren approaches technology through business, human behavior, and organizational change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Together, we explore the questions emerging technology - particularly AI - raises about our lives, careers, creativity, relationships, and the future of work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From AI adoption and automation to the changing meaning of expertise, trust, and authenticity, we bring real experiences, different perspectives, and plenty of curiosity to the conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subscribe and join the conversation.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Jalen Gonel &amp; Ren Stead</itunes:name><itunes:email>stead.k@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><itunes:category text="Technology"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/logos/8138edc1-487f-47bf-be2d-ad1c273814f0.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 3 - They Liked It… Until They Found Out It Was AI]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What if you loved something—until you discovered it was created by AI?</p><p>In this episode of <b><strong>Human Terms Apply with Jalen &amp; Ren</strong></b>, Ren shares a surprising experience: she played an AI-generated song for a group of friends, and everyone loved it. But the moment they learned it wasn't created by a human, their reactions completely changed.</p><p>That sparked a bigger conversation about authenticity, creativity, trust, and why knowing <i><em>how</em></i> something was made can change how we value it.</p><p>We explore the growing resistance to AI-generated music, art, and content, the difference between using technology to enhance creativity and replace it, and whether our discomfort with AI comes from the technology itself or what it represents.</p><p>We also ask some harder questions: Does something lose its value because AI created it? Is authenticity about the final product or the person behind it? And how much does knowing—or not knowing—shape our acceptance of new technology?</p><p>We don't have all the answers, and that's exactly why we're having the conversation.</p><p><b><strong>What about you? Have you ever changed your opinion about something after finding out AI was involved?</strong></b></p><p>Join the conversation with Jalen &amp; Ren.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">51598383-66e1-4703-a16e-840de04ae919</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jalen Gonel & Ren Stead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 01:14:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/4b783252f0c94c9c48f92b3cae9d4344090a7b6da574ba2790ede6f8038bfd63/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1MTU5ODM4My02NmUxLTQ3MDMtYTE2ZS04NDBkZTA0YWU5MTkiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIzYjQ0MDdhYS1hZTg2LTQ4ODQtODFiOS1mMWI5ZTM1NjJkM2QiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTZjYjczOGJhZTg5ZDFmNjU3ZTdjMTQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFjNTYzNmMwODA1MjM0NTE4YTQ1M2M2L3Jlbi1zdGVhZHMtc3R1ZGlvLTIwMjYtMTAtMTJfXzEtMjktNDUubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="55699896" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/episodes/51598383-66e1-4703-a16e-840de04ae919/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What if you loved something—until you discovered it was created by AI?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &lt;b&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Human Terms Apply with Jalen &amp;amp; Ren&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, Ren shares a surprising experience: she played an AI-generated song for a group of friends, and everyone loved it. But the moment they learned it wasn&apos;t created by a human, their reactions completely changed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That sparked a bigger conversation about authenticity, creativity, trust, and why knowing &lt;i&gt;&lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/i&gt; something was made can change how we value it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We explore the growing resistance to AI-generated music, art, and content, the difference between using technology to enhance creativity and replace it, and whether our discomfort with AI comes from the technology itself or what it represents.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We also ask some harder questions: Does something lose its value because AI created it? Is authenticity about the final product or the person behind it? And how much does knowing—or not knowing—shape our acceptance of new technology?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We don&apos;t have all the answers, and that&apos;s exactly why we&apos;re having the conversation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What about you? Have you ever changed your opinion about something after finding out AI was involved?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Join the conversation with Jalen &amp;amp; Ren.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:29:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/logos/8138edc1-487f-47bf-be2d-ad1c273814f0.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep. 3 - They Liked It… Until They Found Out It Was AI</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 2 - Why AI Makes Us All Beginners]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What happens when a technology comes along that makes experts feel like beginners again?</p><p>In this episode of <b><strong>Human Terms Apply</strong></b>, Jalen and Ren explore how AI is changing the way we learn, build expertise, and contribute at work.</p><p>Whether you're a seasoned professional, a technical expert, or someone who's never written a line of code, AI is challenging traditional ideas about who knows what.</p><p>We talk about why asking questions can feel uncomfortable, how AI creates opportunities to learn without judgment, and why curiosity and experimentation might matter more than having all the answers.</p><p>We also explore the unexpected ways AI can bridge the gap between technical and nontechnical professionals - and why learning something new doesn't have to mean starting from zero.</p><p>Join the conversation with Jalen &amp; Ren.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">78ef61cd-6374-484b-b1ef-8cc30a63daf4</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jalen Gonel & Ren Stead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 01:13:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/da003039056a843467ab03b41f6649bbd30557fd69c01c28d2e52f4f0ab9ad9f/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3OGVmNjFjZC02Mzc0LTQ4NGItYjFlZi04Y2MzMGE2M2RhZjQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIzYjQ0MDdhYS1hZTg2LTQ4ODQtODFiOS1mMWI5ZTM1NjJkM2QiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTZjYjczOGJhZTg5ZDFmNjU3ZTdjMTQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFhZDcxMjJhMmQ1OTMxOWI2MGIyMjZjL3Jlbi1zdGVhZHMtc3R1ZGlvLTIwMjYtMTAtMTJfXzEtMjktMjQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="43989516" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/episodes/78ef61cd-6374-484b-b1ef-8cc30a63daf4/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What happens when a technology comes along that makes experts feel like beginners again?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &lt;b&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Human Terms Apply&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, Jalen and Ren explore how AI is changing the way we learn, build expertise, and contribute at work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether you&apos;re a seasoned professional, a technical expert, or someone who&apos;s never written a line of code, AI is challenging traditional ideas about who knows what.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We talk about why asking questions can feel uncomfortable, how AI creates opportunities to learn without judgment, and why curiosity and experimentation might matter more than having all the answers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We also explore the unexpected ways AI can bridge the gap between technical and nontechnical professionals - and why learning something new doesn&apos;t have to mean starting from zero.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Join the conversation with Jalen &amp;amp; Ren.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:22:55</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/logos/8138edc1-487f-47bf-be2d-ad1c273814f0.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep. 2 - Why AI Makes Us All Beginners</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 1 - We work in AI. We still have questions.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the first episode of <b><strong>Human Terms Apply with Jalen &amp; Ren</strong></b>!</p><p>We're two AI coaches coming at technology from different perspectives. Jalen brings the technical side, while Ren approaches it through business, people, and organizational change.</p><p>In our first conversation, we introduce ourselves, share how we found our way into AI, and talk about what it's actually like helping people navigate technology that's changing faster than anyone can keep up with.</p><p>We get into curiosity, experimentation, the pressure to have all the answers, and why human connection still matters in an increasingly AI-driven world.</p><p>We're not here to pretend we have everything figured out. We're here to ask questions, challenge assumptions, share what we're learning, and make sense of technology together.</p><p><b><strong>Welcome to Human Terms Apply.</strong></b></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d88f42a8-0530-45f0-971b-f0ea2f9f5735</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jalen Gonel & Ren Stead]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 01:05:52 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/0da2626c8a104a82bde90a48338eae11d1583bc2783fe0e92e343a3479c7c4cf/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJkODhmNDJhOC0wNTMwLTQ1ZjAtOTcxYi1mMGVhMmY5ZjU3MzUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIzYjQ0MDdhYS1hZTg2LTQ4ODQtODFiOS1mMWI5ZTM1NjJkM2QiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTZjYjczOGJhZTg5ZDFmNjU3ZTdjMTQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFhOWRlMjNjZjM4YzA2OGYyYzIyY2ZjL3Jlbi1zdGVhZHMtc3R1ZGlvLTIwMjYtOS0xNl9fMC05LTcubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="49258309" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/episodes/d88f42a8-0530-45f0-971b-f0ea2f9f5735/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Welcome to the first episode of &lt;b&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Human Terms Apply with Jalen &amp;amp; Ren&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/b&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We&apos;re two AI coaches coming at technology from different perspectives. Jalen brings the technical side, while Ren approaches it through business, people, and organizational change.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In our first conversation, we introduce ourselves, share how we found our way into AI, and talk about what it&apos;s actually like helping people navigate technology that&apos;s changing faster than anyone can keep up with.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We get into curiosity, experimentation, the pressure to have all the answers, and why human connection still matters in an increasingly AI-driven world.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We&apos;re not here to pretend we have everything figured out. We&apos;re here to ask questions, challenge assumptions, share what we&apos;re learning, and make sense of technology together.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Welcome to Human Terms Apply.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:25:39</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/3b4407aa-ae86-4884-81b9-f1b9e3562d3d/logos/8138edc1-487f-47bf-be2d-ad1c273814f0.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep. 1 - We work in AI. We still have questions.</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>