<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Chalk and Slate Podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>The <i>Chalk &amp; Slate Podcast</i> examines the major tectonic shifts reshaping American K–12 education, specifically: <b>Technology, Choice, Funding, the School Model, and the Postsecondary Landscape.</b></p><p>These forces are not theoretical, small, or distant. They are unfolding now, interacting in real time, and poised to radically reshape K–12 education in the near future. Hosts Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak interview guests who have expertise in these topics and explore the key questions about what's changing in how we educate Americas children.</p>]]></description><link>https://riverside.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 10:56:23 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/mwnlnzqI.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak]]></author><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 19:23:49 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Education for Kids]]></category><category><![CDATA[Government]]></category><itunes:author>Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;The &lt;i&gt;Chalk &amp;amp; Slate Podcast&lt;/i&gt; examines the major tectonic shifts reshaping American K–12 education, specifically: &lt;b&gt;Technology, Choice, Funding, the School Model, and the Postsecondary Landscape.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;These forces are not theoretical, small, or distant. They are unfolding now, interacting in real time, and poised to radically reshape K–12 education in the near future. Hosts Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak interview guests who have expertise in these topics and explore the key questions about what&apos;s changing in how we educate Americas children.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak</itunes:name><itunes:email>knussle@ripplecom.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Kids &amp; Family"><itunes:category text="Education for Kids"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Government"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/logos/1e1abdf7-6f95-4bec-8e87-58805a47f7e1.jpeg"/><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 2 POST-cast: AI for Instruction]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jeff and Karen debrief their conversation with Emily Freitag about how AI might impact classroom instruction and outcomes for students. Is it too good to be true? Find how where they landed after their fascinating conversation with Emily on this fast moving and timely topic.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7ea62181-4e69-417a-a87c-8a32a370dad4</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 21:00:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/d8fce1bd095ca1305bd102818e22d80269b16c27707570ad4230556c15ba15a1/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3ZWE2MjE4MS00ZTY5LTQxN2EtYTg3Yy04YTMyYTM3MGRhZDQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwZDM0NTY1Ny1jMTBmLTRjOTYtOTYyMC1mZmJkODc3NmQ4ZGMiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWVmYjA3NjQ2OGExOWVhYzJhMmZhYjkiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE1MTViODhkNGZjMzRhODI4YWI0NWM0L2thcmVuLW51c3NsZXMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNy0xMF9fMjItNTItMjQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="24591927" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/episodes/7ea62181-4e69-417a-a87c-8a32a370dad4/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jeff and Karen debrief their conversation with Emily Freitag about how AI might impact classroom instruction and outcomes for students. Is it too good to be true? Find how where they landed after their fascinating conversation with Emily on this fast moving and timely topic.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:12:48</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/logos/1e1abdf7-6f95-4bec-8e87-58805a47f7e1.jpeg"/><itunes:title>Ep. 2 POST-cast: AI for Instruction</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 2 AI for Instruction w/Emily Freitag]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Karen and Jeff welcome Emily Freitag, CEO of Instruction Partners to talk about AI in education -- and specifically AI for instruction. Is AI bad? Should it be banned? Is it the next revolution in education? Or is this the wild west? Emily takes us on a fascinating behind the scenes of her tour of schools where she has seen AI in action and shares with us what she has learned -- the good, the bad and the still unknown!</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">2a7fec7b-dbc5-45b9-8bdc-9106a044bbd6</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 20:06:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b7a9830a64950a1b7af634b22ab88017ef3687f094dd41877237fa3458ffefcc/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIyYTdmZWM3Yi1kYmM1LTQ1YjktOGJkYy05MTA2YTA0NGJiZDYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwZDM0NTY1Ny1jMTBmLTRjOTYtOTYyMC1mZmJkODc3NmQ4ZGMiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWVmYjA3NjQ2OGExOWVhYzJhMmZhYjkiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEyODlmZTI4NzRjNWI1YzRiOGY1MTVkL2thcmVuLW51c3NsZXMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNi0xMF9fMS0yMS02Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="82112306" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/episodes/2a7fec7b-dbc5-45b9-8bdc-9106a044bbd6/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Karen and Jeff welcome Emily Freitag, CEO of Instruction Partners to talk about AI in education -- and specifically AI for instruction. Is AI bad? Should it be banned? Is it the next revolution in education? Or is this the wild west? Emily takes us on a fascinating behind the scenes of her tour of schools where she has seen AI in action and shares with us what she has learned -- the good, the bad and the still unknown!&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:42:46</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/logos/1e1abdf7-6f95-4bec-8e87-58805a47f7e1.jpeg"/><itunes:title>Ep. 2 AI for Instruction w/Emily Freitag</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 1 Post-cast: Ed Freedom Tax Credit]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Karen and Jeff break down their conversation with Shaka Mitchell about the new Education Freedom Tax Credit. Is it all upside? Or are there downsides lurking in the shadows? Is this local control at its best or government policy at its worst? Get their take on this new education policy coming soon to a school system near you!</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">4c37da74-f948-4d75-b6a0-f0aa98446d8a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Nussle and Jeff Pestrak]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 17:50:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/fdb27ce8616f47e4979b9171f90c4794ff8336415312c1dddb73087ca5db1cd9/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0YzM3ZGE3NC1mOTQ4LTRkNzUtYjZhMC1mMGFhOTg0NDZkOGEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwZDM0NTY1Ny1jMTBmLTRjOTYtOTYyMC1mZmJkODc3NmQ4ZGMiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OWVmYjA3NjQ2OGExOWVhYzJhMmZhYjkiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEyYzQ0ZWQ0NDE0NmRmMTEzYWNkMjk2L2thcmVuLW51c3NsZXMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNi0xMl9fMTktNDItNS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="28289194" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/episodes/4c37da74-f948-4d75-b6a0-f0aa98446d8a/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Karen and Jeff break down their conversation with Shaka Mitchell about the new Education Freedom Tax Credit. Is it all upside? Or are there downsides lurking in the shadows? Is this local control at its best or government policy at its worst? Get their take on this new education policy coming soon to a school system near you!&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:14:44</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0d345657-c10f-4c96-9620-ffbd8776d8dc/logos/1e1abdf7-6f95-4bec-8e87-58805a47f7e1.jpeg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:title>Ep. 1 Post-cast: Ed Freedom Tax Credit</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep. 1 Education Freedom Tax Credit w/Shaka Mitchell]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>On the inaugural episode of Chalk &amp; Slate, Jeff and Karen are joined by Shaka Mitchell, Senior Fellow at the American Federation for Children, to discuss the new Federal Education Freedom Tax Credit. What is it? How will it work? Who can get it? 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