<![CDATA[The Poetic Turn]]>The Poetic Turn is a podcast hosted by Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson that explores poems and poetry through conversation—thoughtful, curious, and welcoming. Each episode invites listeners into close encounters with poems: how they work, why they matter, and what they can offer us.

The show is for anyone who wants more poetry in their world. Whether you’re brand new to poetry, returning after a long absence, or already comfortable reading and discussing poems, The Poetic Turn meets you where you are—without gatekeeping, jargon for its own sake, or academic posturing. The goal is simple: to make poetry more approachable, more meaningful, and more present in everyday life.

]]>https://riverside.comRiverside.fm (https://riverside.com)Mon, 02 Nov 2026 19:43:49 GMTTue, 06 Jan 2026 19:16:30 GMT60Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson<p><b>The Poetic Turn</b> is a podcast hosted by Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson that explores poems and poetry through conversation—thoughtful, curious, and welcoming. Each episode invites listeners into close encounters with poems: how they work, why they matter, and what they can offer us.</p><p></p><p>The show is for anyone who wants more poetry in their world. Whether you’re brand new to poetry, returning after a long absence, or already comfortable reading and discussing poems, <b>The Poetic Turn</b> meets you where you are—without gatekeeping, jargon for its own sake, or academic posturing. The goal is simple: to make poetry more approachable, more meaningful, and more present in everyday life.</p>episodicDarren Stephens and Evan Carlsondarren@darrensvoice.comno<![CDATA[Shotgun, Rabies, by Joanne Diaz]]>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, we welcomed Professor Joanne Diaz from Illinois Wesleyan University. The poem chosen for this episode, “Shotgun, Rabies,” is from her most recent book, Electric Dress. Her previous book, My Favorite Tyrants, contains the poem "Demeter's Last Stand," which was featured here on a previous The Poetic Turn podcast.

Be sure to check out one of our very favorite poetry podcasts, Poetry for All, which is co-hosted by Professor Diaz. It can be found wherever you listen to podcasts, and right here: https://poetryforallpod.com

Also mentioned in this episode:

The Poetry Foundation’s Poem a Day: https://poets.org/poem-a-day

The Best American Poetry series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_American_Poetry

The book, Art Cure: The Science of How the Arts Transform Our Health

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

keywords: poetry, observation, writing, reading, literary history, poetic turn, Joanne Diaz, Electric Dress, My Favorite Tyrants

]]>6b2f4e54-10a7-4372-9ed5-ce1c88280c84Mon, 05 Oct 2026 18:00:30 GMT<p>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, we welcomed Professor Joanne Diaz from Illinois Wesleyan University. The poem chosen for this episode, “Shotgun, Rabies,” is from her most recent book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/electric-dress-joanne-diaz-phd/35e00133a1f646d8?ean=9781962131124" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Electric Dress</a>. Her previous book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/my-favorite-tyrants-joanne-diaz/5efa14bdc520b5d2?ean=9780299297848" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">My Favorite Tyrants</a>, contains the poem "Demeter's Last Stand," which was <a href="https://www.thepoeticturn.com/demeters-last-stand-by-joanne-diaz-and-an-interview-with-mike-theune/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">featured here</a> on a previous The Poetic Turn podcast.</p><p>Be sure to check out one of our very favorite poetry podcasts, Poetry for All, which is co-hosted by Professor Diaz. It can be found wherever you listen to podcasts, and right here: <a href="https://poetryforallpod.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://poetryforallpod.com</a></p><p><b><strong>Also mentioned in this episode:</strong></b></p><p>The Poetry Foundation’s Poem a Day: <a href="https://poets.org/poem-a-day" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://poets.org/poem-a-day</a></p><p>The Best American Poetry series: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_American_Poetry" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_American_Poetry</a></p><p>The book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1250364558?lv=shuf&amp;hvlocphy=9021717&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;mcid=&amp;hvext=372646533167&amp;hvadid=812897116545&amp;language=en_US&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvcampaign=23946688267&amp;hydadcr=11472_13715434_2514964&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvocijid=10113384263019366730--&amp;hvqmt=a&amp;hvexpln=0&amp;tag=smgglusdsadts-20&amp;hvtargid=kwl-2484167636399&amp;adgrpid=195855867565&amp;hvrand=10113384263019366730&amp;channelId=500&amp;ref_=&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Art Cure: The Science of How the Arts Transform Our Health</a></p><p>Evan's website: <a href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a href="http://www.darrensvoice.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p><p>keywords: poetry, observation, writing, reading, literary history, poetic turn, Joanne Diaz, Electric Dress, My Favorite Tyrants</p>no00:53:31Shotgun, Rabies, by Joanne Diazfull<![CDATA[John Keats]]>John Keats, a name that resonates through the corridors of poetry, is the focal point of this episode of The Poetic Turn. Co-hosts Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson welcome Keats scholars, Brian Rejack and Mike Theune, to explore the life and work of this remarkable poet.

Brian Repack at Illinois State University: https://romantic-circles.org/person/brian-rejack

Mike Theune at Illinois Wesleyan University: https://www.iwu.edu/english/faculty/theune.html

The website on which they collaborate, The Keats Letters Project: https://keatslettersproject.com/description/

Also mentioned in this episode of the podcast: 

The Keats poem “La Belle Dame sans Merci: A Ballad”

Diane Seuss's book Modern Poetry

The book Keats Odes, A Lover’s Discourse

The 2009 biographical romantic film, written and directed by Jane Campion, Bright Star

The book about interlinked lives of the young English Romantic poets:

Young Romantics: The Shelleys, Byron, and Other Tangled Lives

The Paris Review article The Vale of Soul-Making

keywords: John Keats, Romanticism, Negative Capability, Poetry, Literary History, Shakespeare, Homer, Translation, Poets, Poetry Education

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>1765dcf5-938e-4b0c-9dc4-4cc322e8e93dWed, 16 Sep 2026 21:43:56 GMT<p>John Keats, a name that resonates through the corridors of poetry, is the focal point of this episode of <i>The Poetic Turn</i>. Co-hosts Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson welcome Keats scholars, Brian Rejack and Mike Theune, to explore the life and work of this remarkable poet.</p><p></p><p><b>Brian Repack at Illinois State University: </b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://romantic-circles.org/person/brian-rejack" target="_blank"><b>https://romantic-circles.org/person/brian-rejack</b></a></p><p></p><p><b>Mike Theune at Illinois Wesleyan University: </b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.iwu.edu/english/faculty/theune.html" target="_blank"><b>https://www.iwu.edu/english/faculty/theune.html</b></a></p><p></p><p><b>The website on which they collaborate, The Keats Letters Project: </b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://keatslettersproject.com/description/" target="_blank"><b>https://keatslettersproject.com/description/</b></a></p><p></p><p><b>Also mentioned in this episode of the podcast: </b></p><p></p><p><b>The Keats poem “</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44475/la-belle-dame-sans-merci-a-ballad" target="_blank">La Belle Dame sans Merci: A Ballad</a>”</p><p></p><p>Diane Seuss's book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Poetry-Poems-Diane-Seuss-ebook/dp/B0C3YQP39L/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4SZ0ICO94PNQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gUcSw10J-JrQPWQdQhUpeXoAIT8vauNAzBuThRvDi3uRfA1TVh2foOWigQcuYLARWLfY0D4i6Q8NNjM178BXLMYYver79YGBpmNnEKxuu0NRyEg4kVCh9Z6Sp1hkpiEKT5jb-4zUPcUZNeFfB4sMkInbjIbFaZh5mLWWANO7FhBymEF4UuYb71LYEcBTaI26Wvo1RFnoTValqR2_6NiorBarUQ37CIvPUezkl5w9N3k.D1AM1bT2vD8O4x0WwI-0dHXzwtC-hXZ1hduOh8h5ncM&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=diane+seuss+modern+poetry&amp;qid=1789594098&amp;sprefix=diane+seuss+modern%2Caps%2C170&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Modern Poetry</a></p><p></p><p>The book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Keatss-Odes-Discourse-Anahid-Nersessian/dp/022682652X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=13UFWNSLT5KSR&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.-f5i9pYXYve0JeKv5qOUrBQmhuqlbiHCP948mKwYAmInRJlevt5PMfxKJfF8t8Mv6Fq_BictBWKQMXvAUR7h2w.kkEa4-yZ2PUN_A3HyRc4QOEh32615yOztNbk2XcJxGI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Keats+Odes%2C+A+lover’s+discourse&amp;qid=1789594160&amp;sprefix=keats+odes%2C+a+lover%27s+discourse%2Caps%2C202&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Keats Odes, A Lover’s Discourse</a></p><p></p><p>The 2009 biographical romantic film, written and directed by Jane Campion, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Star_(film)" target="_blank">Bright Star</a></p><p></p><p>The book about interlinked lives of the young English Romantic poets: </p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374532932/youngromantics/" target="_blank">Young Romantics: The Shelleys, Byron, and Other Tangled Lives</a></p><p></p><p>The Paris Review article <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/07/25/the-vale-of-soul-making/" target="_blank">The Vale of Soul-Making</a></p><p></p><p>keywords: John Keats, Romanticism, Negative Capability, Poetry, Literary History, Shakespeare, Homer, Translation, Poets, Poetry Education</p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:59:27John Keatsfull<![CDATA[Poet and Editor Virginia Bell]]>Virginia Bell, poet, teacher, and editor of Rhino Poetry, shares insights into poetry, its forms, and her creative process. 

Rhino, which celebrated its 50th anniversary this year, has evolved from grassroots workshops into a nationally recognized publication. https://rhinopoetry.org

A link to Virginia Bell’s poem “Pop Song:” https://exterminatingangel.com/pop-song/

A link to Virginia Bell’s poem “Oh, Mother:” https://www.swwim.org/swwimeveryday/2024/5/24/oh-mother

Virginia Bell’s website: https://virginia-bell.com/

Virginia Bell’s book “Lifting Child from the Ground, Turning Around:" can be found here.

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

keywords: poetry, Virginia Bell, Rhino magazine, poetic forms, attention in poetry, poetic turn, motherhood poetry, ekphrastic poetry, defamiliarization, the poetic process

]]>7e06850c-2969-4f02-b1ce-c1539dd241e3Fri, 28 Aug 2026 20:39:44 GMT<p>Virginia Bell, poet, teacher, and editor of Rhino Poetry, shares insights into poetry, its forms, and her creative process. </p><p></p><p>Rhino, which celebrated its 50th anniversary this year, has evolved from grassroots workshops into a nationally recognized publication. <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://rhinopoetry.org" target="_blank">https://rhinopoetry.org</a></p><p></p><p>A link to Virginia Bell’s poem “Pop Song:” <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://exterminatingangel.com/pop-song/" target="_blank">https://exterminatingangel.com/pop-song/</a></p><p></p><p>A link to Virginia Bell’s poem “Oh, Mother:” <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.swwim.org/swwimeveryday/2024/5/24/oh-mother" target="_blank">https://www.swwim.org/swwimeveryday/2024/5/24/oh-mother</a></p><p></p><p>Virginia Bell’s website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://virginia-bell.com/" target="_blank">https://virginia-bell.com/</a></p><p></p><p>Virginia Bell’s book “Lifting Child from the Ground, Turning Around:" <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DV5KM8TR?lv=shuf&amp;language=he&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback" target="_blank">can be found here</a>. <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DV5KM8TR?lv=shuf&amp;language=he&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback" target="_blank"> </a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p><p></p><p>keywords: poetry, Virginia Bell, Rhino magazine, poetic forms, attention in poetry, poetic turn, motherhood poetry, ekphrastic poetry, defamiliarization, the poetic process</p>no00:55:07Poet and Editor Virginia Bellfull<![CDATA[Daniel Smith: Land and Language]]>In this episode, Daniel Smith shares his poetic journey rooted in farming life, his influences like poet Gary Snyder, and the importance of capturing fleeting moments through poetry. We explore how his work preserves rural heritage and inspires future generations.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Daniel Smith and his poetic roots

02:17 Why Daniel started writing poetry: influence of family and land

06:52 First poem: Gary Snyder's influence and farm life

15:05 Story behind 'Texas Nineteen Seventy Four'

27:13 Austin Smith's poetry and their father-son connection

33:47 Daniel's current writing and recent publications

The poems on today's podcast can be found in Daniel Smith's book Ancestral.

"Instructions on How to Put an Old Horse Down" can be found in Austin Smiths book Almanac.


Poems from the Winter House by Daniel Smith

Ancestral by Daniel Smith

Gary Snyder - Official Website - https://www.garysnyder.org/

Daniel's son Austin Smith's website: https://austinsmithpoetry.com/

The episode on The Poetic Turn featuring Austin Smith: https://www.thepoeticturn.com/austin-smith-the-poetry-of-place/

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>f29dc946-facc-486c-94df-855baab5e0e9Sun, 26 Jul 2026 18:08:15 GMT<p>In this episode, Daniel Smith shares his poetic journey rooted in farming life, his influences like poet Gary Snyder, and the importance of capturing fleeting moments through poetry. We explore how his work preserves rural heritage and inspires future generations.</p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p>00:00 Introduction to Daniel Smith and his poetic roots</p><p>02:17 Why Daniel started writing poetry: influence of family and land</p><p>06:52 First poem: Gary Snyder's influence and farm life</p><p>15:05 Story behind 'Texas Nineteen Seventy Four'</p><p>27:13 Austin Smith's poetry and their father-son connection</p><p>33:47 Daniel's current writing and recent publications</p><p></p><p><b>The poems on today's podcast can be found in Daniel Smith's book </b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.watersedgepress.com/product/ancestral/" target="_blank"><b>Ancestral</b></a><b>. </b></p><p></p><p>"Instructions on How to Put an Old Horse Down" can be found in Austin Smiths book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Almanac-Poems-Princeton-Contemporary-Poets-ebook/dp/B00EZ3NF6O/ref=sr_1_1?crid=26FSTZ2CBWLLT&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f6w9yj_LBGYvzt-fak8I0PMezgG_OAJQSqY_XV7M4jUPk5mf2NxTHBQSMCRUGfUNuCKR2mPLXasc8mPSTTjnYW7ag8hB41k9qC_eYfaHcm50hAzslqu2134gHBqZuPvTEREdAQQ8QvG1_VCRyP6NvZ9Oov7Y9RO-XtHMTwnTLtW6zCPARoWd22BU_3CJteAtpjzk1-lMNn3IdmsgVqR164KjLA-18KMaI36yJQoHcI8.DZwDw9_9gPpghPPWyNq6onZkEhfnhn4P6Q5Tk5GDq1g&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=austin+smith&amp;qid=1774816821&amp;sprefix=austin+smith%2Caps%2C176&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Almanac</a>.</p><p><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.watersedgepress.com/product/poems-from-the-winter-house/" target="_blank">Poems from the Winter House</a> by Daniel Smith</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.watersedgepress.com/product/ancestral/" target="_blank">Ancestral</a> by Daniel Smith</p><p>Gary Snyder - Official Website - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.garysnyder.org/" target="_blank">https://www.garysnyder.org/</a></p><p>Daniel's son Austin Smith's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://austinsmithpoetry.com/" target="_blank">https://austinsmithpoetry.com/</a></p><p>The episode on The Poetic Turn featuring Austin Smith: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.thepoeticturn.com/austin-smith-the-poetry-of-place/" target="_blank">https://www.thepoeticturn.com/austin-smith-the-poetry-of-place/</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p><p></p>no00:38:02Daniel Smith: Land and Languagefull<![CDATA[The Raven, by Edgar Allan Poe]]>In this episode of the Poetic Turn, Darren and Evan dive into one of the most famous poems in the English language: The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe. Along with a reading of the poem and a discussion of it, there is a musical version of the poem performed aaaaall the way back in the 80s, performed by The Four Guys Standing Around Singing, an acappella group in which Darren performed. Love it or hate it, if you listen to this podcast, you'll escape the poem... Nevermore!

The Raven, by Edgar Allan Poe.

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>32dd246e-99ec-414d-bcb5-3497ef645028Thu, 02 Jul 2026 22:29:58 GMT<p>In this episode of the Poetic Turn, Darren and Evan dive into one of the most famous poems in the English language: <i>The Raven</i> by Edgar Allan Poe. Along with a reading of the poem and a discussion of it, there is a musical version of the poem performed aaaaall the way back in the 80s, performed by The Four Guys Standing Around Singing, an acappella group in which Darren performed. Love it or hate it, if you listen to this podcast, you'll escape the poem... Nevermore! </p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48860/the-raven" target="_blank">The Raven, by Edgar Allan Poe</a>. </p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:42:13The Raven, by Edgar Allan Poefull<![CDATA[Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird, by Wallace Stevens]]>Wallace Stevens' "Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird" is a profound exploration of perception, reality, and the interplay between the observer and the observed. Through its innovative structure and rich imagery, the poem invites readers to engage with the complexities of existence in a meaningful way. As we reflect on Stevens' work, we are reminded of the importance of embracing multiple perspectives and the beauty that lies within the act of observation.

Read the poem:

Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird

A link to Dan Smart's blog Rhythm is the Instrument: https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com

Dan's book The Flowers of Nonchalance can be found here.

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>483dfd78-97da-46ed-8503-63445e96ebbcThu, 18 Jun 2026 20:33:27 GMT<p>Wallace Stevens' "Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird" is a profound exploration of perception, reality, and the interplay between the observer and the observed. Through its innovative structure and rich imagery, the poem invites readers to engage with the complexities of existence in a meaningful way. As we reflect on Stevens' work, we are reminded of the importance of embracing multiple perspectives and the beauty that lies within the act of observation.</p><p></p><p>Read the poem:</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45236/thirteen-ways-of-looking-at-a-blackbird" target="_blank"><b>Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird</b></a></p><p></p><p>A link to Dan Smart's blog Rhythm is the Instrument: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com" target="_blank"><b>https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com</b></a></p><p></p><p>Dan's book The Flowers of Nonchalance can be found <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Flowers-Nonchalance-Dan-Smart/dp/1952224284" target="_blank"><b>here</b></a>.</p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank"><b>www.evancarlsonactor.com</b></a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank"><b>www.darrensvoice.com</b></a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:33:51Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird, by Wallace Stevensfull<![CDATA[Walt Whitman - Three Poems]]>Walt Whitman, an iconic figure in American poetry, invites us to explore the essence of humanity through his works. In today’s post, we’ll delve into some of his most resonant poems, reflecting on themes of connection, love, and the joy found in companionship. Whitman’s ability to capture the beauty of everyday moments makes his poetry timeless, and understanding it can enrich our appreciation of literature and life itself.

Walt Whitman (1819-1892) was a groundbreaking American poet known for his innovative style and themes of democracy, nature, and human connection. His seminal work, Leaves of Grass, celebrates the individual and the collective, making him a pivotal figure in American literature. Whitman’s poetry often blurs the lines between the personal and the universal, inviting readers to reflect on their own lives in relation to the world around them.

I Sing The Body Electric

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45472/i-sing-the-body-electric

A Glimpse

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50478/a-glimpse

When I Heard the Learn’d Astronomer

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45479/when-i-heard-the-learnd-astronomer

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>5086cba5-5b22-4af7-bd4e-59f9cad93550Wed, 03 Jun 2026 22:57:40 GMT<p>Walt Whitman, an iconic figure in American poetry, invites us to explore the essence of humanity through his works. In today’s post, we’ll delve into some of his most resonant poems, reflecting on themes of connection, love, and the joy found in companionship. Whitman’s ability to capture the beauty of everyday moments makes his poetry timeless, and understanding it can enrich our appreciation of literature and life itself.</p><p></p><p>Walt Whitman (1819-1892) was a groundbreaking American poet known for his innovative style and themes of democracy, nature, and human connection. His seminal work, <b>Leaves of Grass</b>, celebrates the individual and the collective, making him a pivotal figure in American literature. Whitman’s poetry often blurs the lines between the personal and the universal, inviting readers to reflect on their own lives in relation to the world around them.</p><p></p><p>I Sing The Body Electric</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45472/i-sing-the-body-electric" target="_blank"><b>https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45472/i-sing-the-body-electric</b></a></p><p></p><p>A Glimpse</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50478/a-glimpse" target="_blank">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50478/a-glimpse</a></p><p></p><p><b>When I Heard the Learn’d Astronomer</b></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45479/when-i-heard-the-learnd-astronomer" target="_blank">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45479/when-i-heard-the-learnd-astronomer</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:26:25Walt Whitman - Three Poemsfull<![CDATA[Robert Burns, with Thomas Keith]]>The conversation delves into the life and work of Robert Burns, exploring his poetry, the tradition of Burns suppers, the challenge of understanding Scots language in his poetry, and the significance of Scotland's bawdy song tradition. The use of music in Burns' poetry and the reading and interpretation of his work are also highlighted.

Takeaways

  • Robert Burns' poetry is often set to music, with half of his poems being lyrics to existing melodies.
  • Burns suppers are a worldwide tradition, celebrated on his birthday with readings, songs, and haggis.
  • Burns' use of Scots language in his poetry presents a challenge for modern readers
  • Bawdy poetry was a significant part of Burns' writing
  • We discuss Robert Burns' reputation and personal life

A Red, Red Rose

To a Mouse

John Anderson my jo, John

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]]>1e9e41e3-0623-4459-9e06-3b226f2a73e6Tue, 26 May 2026 13:00:00 GMT<p>The conversation delves into the life and work of Robert Burns, exploring his poetry, the tradition of Burns suppers, the challenge of understanding Scots language in his poetry, and the significance of Scotland's bawdy song tradition. The use of music in Burns' poetry and the reading and interpretation of his work are also highlighted. </p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Robert Burns' poetry is often set to music, with half of his poems being lyrics to existing melodies.</li><li>Burns suppers are a worldwide tradition, celebrated on his birthday with readings, songs, and haggis.</li><li>Burns' use of Scots language in his poetry presents a challenge for modern readers</li><li>Bawdy poetry was a significant part of Burns' writing</li><li>We discuss Robert Burns' reputation and personal life</li></ul><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43812/a-red-red-rose" target="_blank">A Red, Red Rose</a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43816/to-a-mouse-56d222ab36e33" target="_blank">To a Mouse</a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50357/john-anderson-my-jo-john" target="_blank">John Anderson my jo, John</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:43:28Robert Burns, with Thomas Keithfull<![CDATA[Haiku, with Jenny Bienemann]]>This episode of The Poetic Turn delves into the world of haiku with poet and singer-songwriter Jenny Bienemann. Many singer-songwriters have taken inspiration from Jenny's haiku, and this large group of artists have created an entity that has come to be known as the Haiku Milieu.

From HAIKU MILIEU VOL. 1

FORTHCOMING NEW ALBUM: Friday Night Live

Robin Bienemann

“Forever Wishing - YouTube”

Old Sky New

Rachel Drew

“Forever Wishing - Bandcamp”

Forever wishing
To be somewhere else except
When I am with you.

Single

Kelli Owens Hutton:

“Car Seat Hot Sun - Youtube”

 

Car seat in the hot sun

Hot as the hinges of hell

And less forgiving

From HAIKU MILIEU VOL. 2

Where It Really Starts

by Jon Langford & the Bright Shiners

“Tell Me Your Stories - YouTube”

 

Tell me your story

Begin at the beginning

and leave nothing out

Love Bug

Naomi Ashley

“Be In Love with You - Bandcamp”

 

In all that we do

We are either making love

Or making nothing

Pretty Little Bow

Jodi Walker

“Wandering Eye - YouTube”

 

Can you remember

what it felt like to desire

all that you have now?

From SUNDAYS WITH JENNY

Ukulele Duke

“With Love Surrounded - YouTube"

 

Lay down your weapons

Love has got you surrounded

There is no way out

The most-written-to haiku Jenny shared, that is not in the perfect 575 structure: 

tears like stars must fall

Hearts like stones must sink

Grief like Dawn must break

Robert Lloyd and Janet Bean’s cover of Jon Langford’s song:

https://readdork.com/track/robert-lloyd-black-cat-dark-horse-d2-3-tears-like-stars

Jon’s version of Tears like Stars on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MObgcP0jEX8

*************

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]]>c3cfcf0a-0af0-409e-b024-efad5af157e5Sun, 17 May 2026 18:28:44 GMT<p>This episode of The Poetic Turn delves into the world of haiku with poet and singer-songwriter Jenny Bienemann. Many singer-songwriters have taken inspiration from Jenny's haiku, and this large group of artists have created an entity that has come to be known as the <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://haikumilieu.com/" target="_blank">Haiku Milieu</a>.</p><p></p><p>From HAIKU MILIEU VOL. 1</p><p>FORTHCOMING NEW ALBUM: Friday Night Live</p><p>Robin Bienemann</p><p><b>“</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/v8KwGYfI6f0?si=2DZjK1R0sJ35KIpH" target="_blank"><b>Forever Wishing - YouTube</b></a><b>”</b></p><p></p><p>Old Sky New</p><p>Rachel Drew</p><p><b>“</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://racheldrew.bandcamp.com/album/old-sky-new" target="_blank"><b>Forever Wishing - Bandcamp</b></a><b>”</b></p><p></p><p><i>Forever wishing</i><br /><i>To be somewhere else except</i><br /><i>When I am with you.</i></p><p></p><p>Single</p><p>Kelli Owens Hutton:</p><p><b>“</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/7ZrPMWzcA4U?si=kNy2j3vHPDX4HF9C" target="_blank"><b>Car Seat Hot Sun - Youtube</b></a><b>”</b></p><p><i> </i></p><p><i>Car seat in the hot sun</i></p><p><i>Hot as the hinges of hell</i></p><p><i>And less forgiving</i></p><p></p><p>From HAIKU MILIEU VOL. 2</p><p>Where It Really Starts</p><p>by <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://jonlangfordthebrightshiners.bandcamp.com/" target="_blank"><b>Jon Langford &amp; the Bright Shiners</b></a></p><p><b>“</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/PZWOvrdkEK4?si=X_bZAmmzPp3eWJJC" target="_blank"><b>Tell Me Your Stories - YouTube</b></a><b>”</b></p><p><i> </i></p><p><i>Tell me your story</i></p><p><i>Begin at the beginning</i></p><p><i>and leave nothing out</i></p><p></p><p>Love Bug</p><p>Naomi Ashley</p><p><b>“</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://naomiashley.bandcamp.com/album/love-bug" target="_blank"><b>Be In Love with You - Bandcam</b></a><b>p”</b></p><p><i> </i></p><p><i>In all that we do</i></p><p><i>We are either making love</i></p><p><i>Or making nothing</i></p><p></p><p>Pretty Little Bow</p><p>Jodi Walker</p><p><b>“</b><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/nRc88L71KVQ?si=IK2g28HgBqEHosdU" target="_blank"><b>Wandering Eye - YouTub</b></a><b>e”</b></p><p><i> </i></p><p><i>Can you remember</i></p><p><i>what it felt like to desire</i></p><p><i>all that you have now?</i></p><p></p><p>From SUNDAYS WITH JENNY</p><p>Ukulele Duke</p><p>“<a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/XOoZRRR_xxE?si=DtAzVP4ezjrP5Iae" target="_blank">With Love Surrounded - YouTube</a>"</p><p><i> </i></p><p><i>Lay down your weapons</i></p><p><i>Love has got you surrounded</i></p><p><i>There is no way out</i></p><p></p><p>The most-written-to haiku Jenny shared, that is not in the perfect 575 structure: </p><p></p><p>tears like stars must fall</p><p>Hearts like stones must sink</p><p>Grief like Dawn must break</p><p></p><p>Robert Lloyd and Janet Bean’s cover of Jon Langford’s song:</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://readdork.com/track/robert-lloyd-black-cat-dark-horse-d2-3-tears-like-stars" target="_blank">https://readdork.com/track/robert-lloyd-black-cat-dark-horse-d2-3-tears-like-stars</a></p><p></p><p>Jon’s version of Tears like Stars on YouTube: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/MObgcP0jEX8" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/MObgcP0jEX8</a></p><p></p><p><i>*************</i></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:40:57Haiku, with Jenny Bienemannfull<![CDATA[The Poetic Turn in Sonnet 29]]>In this episode, Darren and Evan delve into Shakespeare's Sonnet 29, exploring its relevance, emotional depth, and especially the wonderful example it gives of a poetic turn.

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]]>004a4073-aa51-41a5-b10e-3d55ccbbac09Thu, 07 May 2026 21:05:10 GMT<p>In this episode, Darren and Evan delve into Shakespeare's Sonnet 29, exploring its relevance, emotional depth, and especially the wonderful example it gives of a poetic turn. </p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:21:31The Poetic Turn in Sonnet 29full<![CDATA[Echo, by Mark Yakich, with an interview]]>The conversation with Mark Yakich delves into the emotional connection and playfulness of language in poetry. It begins with an introduction to Mark and his influence on the hosts, followed by a discussion on Mark's journey to poetry and the impact of poetry on his life. The exploration of Mark's work and the power of language in poetry are also highlighted, emphasizing the depth and emotional resonance of poetic expression. The conversation delves into the significance of re-reading poetry to deepen the connection and understanding of the verses. It explores the underrated nature of William Shakespeare as a poet and the choice of medium between prose and poetry. Additionally, it highlights the impact of reading poetry aloud and the nuances of language and line breaks in poetry.

Takeaways

  • Poetry as a means of emotional connection
  • The playfulness and depth of language in poetry Re-reading poetry enhances connection
  • The depth of poetry requires multiple readings

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction to Mark Yakich
  • 08:55 Exploring Poetry through Mark's Work
  • 18:11 The Power of Language in Poetry
  • 25:19 The Art of Re-reading Poetry
  • 37:00 Choosing the Medium: Prose vs. Poetry
  • 42:25 The Impact of Reading Poetry Aloud

Poetry: A Survivors Guide

The Poetry Reader: An Anthology

Poets mentioned:

Vasko Popa

Zbigniew Herbert

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]]>aed8d7b7-caf9-415e-abc3-2bfd9db6babdTue, 05 May 2026 21:20:55 GMT<p>The conversation with Mark Yakich delves into the emotional connection and playfulness of language in poetry. It begins with an introduction to Mark and his influence on the hosts, followed by a discussion on Mark's journey to poetry and the impact of poetry on his life. The exploration of Mark's work and the power of language in poetry are also highlighted, emphasizing the depth and emotional resonance of poetic expression. The conversation delves into the significance of re-reading poetry to deepen the connection and understanding of the verses. It explores the underrated nature of William Shakespeare as a poet and the choice of medium between prose and poetry. Additionally, it highlights the impact of reading poetry aloud and the nuances of language and line breaks in poetry.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry as a means of emotional connection</li><li>The playfulness and depth of language in poetry Re-reading poetry enhances connection</li><li>The depth of poetry requires multiple readings</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to Mark Yakich</li><li>08:55 Exploring Poetry through Mark's Work</li><li>18:11 The Power of Language in Poetry</li><li>25:19 The Art of Re-reading Poetry</li><li>37:00 Choosing the Medium: Prose vs. Poetry</li><li>42:25 The Impact of Reading Poetry Aloud</li></ul><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Poetry-Survivors-Guide-Mark-Yakich-ebook/dp/B0BWRJ53T4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3J9PNQEF6DGP9&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.s7x3k5I28YRFJ2XFmJplVQNqUdm6lFeMZh2bDuhlDo0k0Ko-vs9xFWUof30koxI3pdvvHOk1_Cds0u3Twinh3WdODScGoBtixRksEnIqtet8ONKg2EBvfYg_xA_g4DQPz-jQ1O5Dw8ia9iDdtgZb73umYp4-B1sNtjMflqRAZFoHzPo5ove24L7roqHU3sPAlK8rbFcH8EtKK30NJqbLJYnrfOmlG3RyVoRIQ6K70CU.7rDFBxkRdS8H0oJxEPp5NNCjoaJKjCU1JINvCrZyrfk&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=poetry+a+survivors+guide&amp;qid=1778013446&amp;sprefix=poetry+a+survi%2Caps%2C144&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">Poetry: A Survivors Guide</a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Poetry-Reader-Anthology-Mark-Yakich/dp/B0D6XW6W2S/ref=sr_1_1?crid=DC41ELOYV8B0&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.IRxaRcATntEkSIb0Coz7daDZHndcDWkIDXaTklxwRakWbYxB-W1vD1WxUo7f7iNbGii6IxMScVY4ZnmDZrQ2TImVQPkkdqSBoUs3jJJh8UrsLXgpG0gEXo8tqUj5pJnOOOrfM93PRMa__pwbgZINEKg02IaAKBPvwuCSLtwkmPtnRcolo_rxqRP2lBJjqzSeLJ-dnTo3QZTpBPBOTEZM89uwotA9NLH3zSgwyg5cMNA.0nNo8SnWNP4b72Cg93Bql6sZiSYSsc4unnRdSyzaPCs&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=the+poetry+reader%2C+yakich&amp;qid=1778015755&amp;sprefix=yakich+poet%2Caps%2C166&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">The Poetry Reader: An Anthology</a></p><p></p><p>Poets mentioned:</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/vasko-popa" target="_blank">Vasko Popa</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/zbigniew-herbert" target="_blank">Zbigniew Herbert</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:47:53Echo, by Mark Yakich, with an interviewfull<![CDATA[I Am the People, the Mob, by Carl Sandburg]]>Explore profound themes in Carl Sandburg's poetry, in this case focusing on the collective power of the people and the importance of remembrance. This discussion delves into Sandburg's poetic definitions, historical context, and the enduring relevance of his work.

keywords:

Carl Sandburg, poetry, collective power, remembrance, American literature, poetry analysis, Chicago poets

key  topics:

  • Sandburg's definitions of poetry
  • The collective voice of the people
  • The importance of remembrance in history
  • Imagery and language in Sandburg's poetry
  • The historical and cultural context of Sandburg's work

takeaways:

  • Poetry offers a glimpse into the poet's world and the collective consciousness.
  • Remembering history is crucial to prevent repeating past mistakes.
  • Sandburg's poetry elevates the common people to the level of great historical figures.
  • The imagery of storms and prairie symbolizes resilience and the passage of time.
  • The act of forgetting is easy; the act of remembering requires effort and intention.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Poetic Turn and Carl Sandburg

02:05 Sandburg's Definitions of Poetry: A Glimpse into the Poet's Mind

03:50 The Power of the Collective: 'I Am the People, the Mob'

06:04 Imagery and Themes: Storms, Prairie, and Blood

08:06 The Call to Remember: Lessons from History

10:05 Historical Context: Lincoln, Napoleon, and American Identity

12:09 Sandburg's Style: Free Verse and Long Lines

14:16 The Urgency of the Message: Don't Forget

15:54 The Role of the People in Shaping History

18:11 The Power of Poetry to Inspire Collective Memory

20:05 Conclusion: Embracing the Voice of the People and the Poet

22:07 Final Reflections

Carl Sandburg's 'Chicago Poems' - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Chicago+Poems+Carl+Sandburg

A link to I Am The People, The Mob

Carl Sandburg reading a poem on The Ed Sullivan show!

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]]>50a423e1-19d8-4d94-91fa-13ecde2bdc26Tue, 21 Apr 2026 21:37:44 GMT<p>Explore profound themes in Carl Sandburg's poetry, in this case focusing on the collective power of the people and the importance of remembrance. This discussion delves into Sandburg's poetic definitions, historical context, and the enduring relevance of his work.</p><p></p><p>keywords: </p><p>Carl Sandburg, poetry, collective power, remembrance, American literature, poetry analysis, Chicago poets</p><p></p><p>key  topics:</p><ul><li>Sandburg's definitions of poetry</li><li>The collective voice of the people</li><li>The importance of remembrance in history</li><li>Imagery and language in Sandburg's poetry</li><li>The historical and cultural context of Sandburg's work</li></ul><p></p><p>takeaways:</p><ul><li>Poetry offers a glimpse into the poet's world and the collective consciousness.</li><li>Remembering history is crucial to prevent repeating past mistakes.</li><li>Sandburg's poetry elevates the common people to the level of great historical figures.</li><li>The imagery of storms and prairie symbolizes resilience and the passage of time.</li><li>The act of forgetting is easy; the act of remembering requires effort and intention.</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p></p><p>00:00 Introduction to the Poetic Turn and Carl Sandburg</p><p>02:05 Sandburg's Definitions of Poetry: A Glimpse into the Poet's Mind</p><p>03:50 The Power of the Collective: 'I Am the People, the Mob'</p><p>06:04 Imagery and Themes: Storms, Prairie, and Blood</p><p>08:06 The Call to Remember: Lessons from History</p><p>10:05 Historical Context: Lincoln, Napoleon, and American Identity</p><p>12:09 Sandburg's Style: Free Verse and Long Lines</p><p>14:16 The Urgency of the Message: Don't Forget</p><p>15:54 The Role of the People in Shaping History</p><p>18:11 The Power of Poetry to Inspire Collective Memory</p><p>20:05 Conclusion: Embracing the Voice of the People and the Poet</p><p>22:07 Final Reflections</p><p></p><p>Carl Sandburg's 'Chicago Poems' - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Poems-Carl-Sandburg/dp/1420964712/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gezLn36w9wuX-EcS9AUqN6ETQnF0P7trzBdyolIcdTCD2YKKqoEouSmcRojWtOGY3tabweI-KN-G3F-UlkwvolPvP3O3gREtaZcfa42pEW0AdYb23ig9pTmzePtAA2mvKyBcLvm5Aa6EcOz-F7-pd6xqdzJfh6t2sU9YG_BrHofpftYc98O7RBbMbVTCUiu6ZeyyhCWmQyYcAnt72rOkb_E1r_oRa9Jb6zdR09RtHS8.rDYgkon1mb9GEFwwLge3xQ-PWh9O37tDwVmgyKpS5oE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Chicago+Poems+Carl+Sandburg&amp;qid=1776807007&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Chicago+Poems+Carl+Sandburg</a></p><p>A link to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45036/i-am-the-people-the-mob" target="_blank">I Am The People, The Mob</a></p><p>Carl Sandburg <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4QgzAgOF_w" target="_blank">reading a poem on The Ed Sullivan show! </a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:25:30I Am the People, the Mob, by Carl Sandburgfull<![CDATA[The Fisherman, by William Butler Yeats]]>In the realm of poetry, few figures stand as tall as William Butler Yeats, whose works resonate with profound imagery and spiritual depth. In this post, we'll explore Yeats' poem "The Fisherman," a piece that not only showcases his literary genius but also reflects his complex relationship with art and its audience. 

William Butler Yeats was an Irish poet, dramatist, and one of the foremost figures of 20th-century literature. His work is deeply intertwined with Irish culture and mythology, often reflecting the political and spiritual turmoil of his time. Yeats believed poetry should evoke a trance-like state, merging the realms of the awake and the dream world.

The poem The Fisherman

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Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>31d14dec-1115-42d5-bb24-10224146120aTue, 14 Apr 2026 03:12:35 GMT<p>In the realm of poetry, few figures stand as tall as William Butler Yeats, whose works resonate with profound imagery and spiritual depth. In this post, we'll explore Yeats' poem "The Fisherman," a piece that not only showcases his literary genius but also reflects his complex relationship with art and its audience. </p><p></p><p>William Butler Yeats was an Irish poet, dramatist, and one of the foremost figures of 20th-century literature. His work is deeply intertwined with Irish culture and mythology, often reflecting the political and spiritual turmoil of his time. Yeats believed poetry should evoke a trance-like state, merging the realms of the awake and the dream world.</p><p></p><p>The poem <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/13324/the-fisherman" target="_blank">The Fisherman</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:26:13The Fisherman, by William Butler Yeatsfull<![CDATA[Emily Dickinson - Three Poems]]>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, we dive into the poetry of one of America’s most renowned poets, Emily Dickinson. Known for her unique style and introspective themes, Dickinson’s work remains relevant and compelling. 

Across the centuries, Emily Dickinson’s poetry has continued to speak to us about the fundamental aspects of human existence. Her ability to distill complex emotions into simple yet profound language makes her work timeless. If you’re inspired to explore more of her poetry, check out collections available through the Gutenberg Project, which provides free access to many of her poems. 

Here’s a link to the poem THE BATTLE-FIELD.

A link to Heart, we will forget him!

And here’s Dickinson’s famous poem, THE SNAKE. This link also contains an image of the actual poem as written by Dickinson, which is interesting.

A link to the Gutenberg Project page with hundreds of Dickinson poems. 

A link to the Nick Lowe song, Heart.

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>825ae5cf-3fa9-475a-8062-446ebca6fbcfMon, 06 Apr 2026 22:40:09 GMT<p>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, we dive into the poetry of one of America’s most renowned poets, Emily Dickinson. Known for her unique style and introspective themes, Dickinson’s work remains relevant and compelling. </p><p></p><p>Across the centuries, Emily Dickinson’s poetry has continued to speak to us about the fundamental aspects of human existence. Her ability to distill complex emotions into simple yet profound language makes her work timeless. If you’re inspired to explore more of her poetry, check out collections available through the Gutenberg Project, which provides free access to many of her poems. </p><p></p><p>Here’s a link to the poem <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryverse.com/emily-dickinson-poems/the-battlefield#google_vignette" target="_blank">THE BATTLE-FIELD</a>.</p><p></p><p>A link to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thepoetryhour.com/poems/heart-we-will-forget-him/" target="_blank">Heart, we will forget him!</a></p><p></p><p>And here’s Dickinson’s famous poem, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.themorgan.org/exhibitions/online/emily-dickinson/19" target="_blank">THE SNAKE</a>. This link also contains an image of the actual poem as written by Dickinson, which is interesting. </p><p></p><p>A link to the <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.gutenberg.org/files/12242/12242-h/12242-h.htm" target="_blank">Gutenberg Project page</a> with hundreds of Dickinson poems. </p><p></p><p>A link to the Nick Lowe song, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUwod4oJZuY" target="_blank">Heart</a>. </p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank"><b>www.evancarlsonactor.com</b></a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank"><b>www.darrensvoice.com</b></a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:28:43Emily Dickinson - Three Poemsfull<![CDATA[Austin Smith: the Poetry of Place]]>Austin Smith is the author of two collections, Flyover Country (2018) and Almanac (2013), both published by Princeton University Press. He has been awarded a Wallace Stegner Fellowship, a grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, and the Amy Lowell Poetry Travelling Scholarship. He is a Jones Lecturer at Stanford University.

## Understanding the Connection: Why Poetry?

Poetry often serves as a window into our emotions, allowing us to express what we feel but cannot articulate. In our conversation with Austin, he articulates the idea that poems are almost like monologues for readers, inviting them to inhabit the poem's world. This immersive experience is what makes poetry so compelling. 

### The Role of Language in Poetry

Austin emphasizes the significance of language in poetry, suggesting that it often achieves a kind of perfection that is harder to find in prose. The brevity of poetry allows for a concentrated expression of thought, where every word matters.

### The Impact of Personal Background

Growing up on a dairy farm in Northwestern Illinois, Austin's roots influence his work. He reflects on how his pastoral upbringing shapes his perspective and informs his poetry. Even as he now lives in San Francisco, the imagery and themes from his Midwestern background continue to resonate in his writing. 

Poetry is more than just words on a page; it’s a powerful medium that connects us to our emotions, experiences, and each other. As we explored with Austin Smith, the art of poetry has the potential to resonate deeply, inviting readers to engage in a dialogue with the text and with themselves.

The poem The Brinkmeiers

The poem Lambs

Austin Smith’s Substack, which features new poetry regularly. 

Austin’s books can be found here and elsewhere: Almanac and Flyover Country.

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>2640cd6e-3bde-4a4b-b0c1-6dee7eb09939Sun, 29 Mar 2026 21:17:23 GMT<p>Austin Smith is the author of two collections, Flyover Country (2018) and Almanac (2013), both published by Princeton University Press. He has been awarded a Wallace Stegner Fellowship, a grant from the National Endowment for the Arts, and the Amy Lowell Poetry Travelling Scholarship. He is a Jones Lecturer at Stanford University.</p><p></p><p>## Understanding the Connection: Why Poetry?</p><p>Poetry often serves as a window into our emotions, allowing us to express what we feel but cannot articulate. In our conversation with Austin, he articulates the idea that poems are almost like monologues for readers, inviting them to inhabit the poem's world. This immersive experience is what makes poetry so compelling. </p><p></p><p>### The Role of Language in Poetry</p><p>Austin emphasizes the significance of language in poetry, suggesting that it often achieves a kind of perfection that is harder to find in prose. The brevity of poetry allows for a concentrated expression of thought, where every word matters.</p><p></p><p>### The Impact of Personal Background</p><p>Growing up on a dairy farm in Northwestern Illinois, Austin's roots influence his work. He reflects on how his pastoral upbringing shapes his perspective and informs his poetry. Even as he now lives in San Francisco, the imagery and themes from his Midwestern background continue to resonate in his writing. </p><p></p><p>Poetry is more than just words on a page; it’s a powerful medium that connects us to our emotions, experiences, and each other. As we explored with Austin Smith, the art of poetry has the potential to resonate deeply, inviting readers to engage in a dialogue with the text and with themselves.</p><p></p><p>The poem <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781400848034-009/html?srsltid=AfmBOor4S6g-H9uRYQm-5VniZvtkMtPBtfUSLgsFC6IgrKz27Yt2Vgtp" target="_blank"><b>The Brinkmeiers</b></a></p><p></p><p>The poem <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://austinsmith.substack.com/p/lambs" target="_blank"><b>Lambs</b></a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://austinsmith.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Austin Smith’s Substack</b></a>, which features new poetry regularly. </p><p></p><p>Austin’s books can be found here and elsewhere: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Almanac-Poems-Princeton-Contemporary-Poets-ebook/dp/B00EZ3NF6O/ref=sr_1_1?crid=26FSTZ2CBWLLT&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f6w9yj_LBGYvzt-fak8I0PMezgG_OAJQSqY_XV7M4jUPk5mf2NxTHBQSMCRUGfUNuCKR2mPLXasc8mPSTTjnYW7ag8hB41k9qC_eYfaHcm50hAzslqu2134gHBqZuPvTEREdAQQ8QvG1_VCRyP6NvZ9Oov7Y9RO-XtHMTwnTLtW6zCPARoWd22BU_3CJteAtpjzk1-lMNn3IdmsgVqR164KjLA-18KMaI36yJQoHcI8.DZwDw9_9gPpghPPWyNq6onZkEhfnhn4P6Q5Tk5GDq1g&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=austin+smith&amp;qid=1774816821&amp;sprefix=austin+smith%2Caps%2C176&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank"><b>Almanac</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Flyover-Country-Poems-Princeton-Contemporary/dp/0691181578/ref=sr_1_2?crid=26FSTZ2CBWLLT&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f6w9yj_LBGYvzt-fak8I0PMezgG_OAJQSqY_XV7M4jUPk5mf2NxTHBQSMCRUGfUNuCKR2mPLXasc8mPSTTjnYW7ag8hB41k9qC_eYfaHcm50hAzslqu2134gHBqZuPvTEREdAQQ8QvG1_VCRyP6NvZ9Oov7Y9RO-XtHMTwnTLtW6zCPARoWd22BU_3CJteAtpjzk1-lMNn3IdmsgVqR164KjLA-18KMaI36yJQoHcI8.DZwDw9_9gPpghPPWyNq6onZkEhfnhn4P6Q5Tk5GDq1g&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=austin+smith&amp;qid=1774816821&amp;sprefix=austin+smith%2Caps%2C176&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank"><b>Flyover Country</b></a>.</p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank"><b>www.evancarlsonactor.com</b></a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank"><b>www.darrensvoice.com</b></a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:50:02Austin Smith: the Poetry of Placefull<![CDATA[The Beauty in Everyday Life: Insights from Dan Smart]]>Welcome to the latest episode of The Poetic Turn! Have you ever wondered how poets see the world differently? In this episode, we dive deep into the creative mind of Dan Smart, a prolific poet, who shares his experiences and insights on writing and the nature of poetry. From the beauty of everyday moments to the meditation of writing, this conversation reveals how poetry can help us discover a different way of engaging with the world.

 

## About Dan Smart

Dan Smart is a talented poet and writer based in Chicago, known for his ability to capture the essence of everyday life through his poetry. He has a popular blog where he shares his work, and his recent book, Flowers of Nonchalance, showcases his unique voice and perspective on the world.

 

## The Poet's Perspective on Everyday Life

In our conversation, Dan shares how poets experience the world differently. "It's a noticing life," he explains. Poets like Dan are constantly seeking out beauty and surprise in the mundane. He describes writing poetry as a meditative practice, allowing him to pay careful attention to the world around him. This attentiveness not only enriches his creative process but also helps him navigate life’s anxieties.

 

## The Creative Process: From Observation to Creation

Dan emphasizes that poetry isn't just about capturing a moment; it's about exploring the deeper truths within those moments. He explains that ideas often come during the writing process itself, rather than as fully formed thoughts. This means that poets must be open to discovery, allowing their writing to evolve organically.

 

### Tips for Aspiring Poets

1. Keep a Journal: Regularly jot down observations and feelings to spark creativity.

2. Read Widely: Exposure to different styles and voices can inspire your own writing.

3. Embrace Imperfection: Don’t aim for perfection; let your ideas flow freely and refine them later.

 

In our discussion, we also explore a few of Dan's poems. "At the Crosswalk" captures the feeling of being small in a bustling city. The imagery he uses evokes a sense of freedom and wonder, reminding us that even in urban settings, nature plays a significant role in our experiences. And in "The Defense Rests," the poet, startled by nature's beauty, engages very directly with faith.

 

## Conclusion

Dan Smart’s insights into the world of poetry remind us that there is beauty in every moment if we choose to notice it. By cultivating mindfulness and creativity, we can enhance our lives and the lives of those around us through the art of poetry. If you're interested in exploring more about Dan and his work, check out his blog and Flowers of Nonchalance.

The poem The Defense Rests

The poem At The Crosswalk

Dan Smart's blog Rhythm is the Instrument

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>31070f29-df26-45f8-85c0-5a1f172bb822Thu, 19 Mar 2026 18:40:47 GMT<p>Welcome to the latest episode of The Poetic Turn! Have you ever wondered how poets see the world differently? In this episode, we dive deep into the creative mind of Dan Smart, a prolific poet, who shares his experiences and insights on writing and the nature of poetry. From the beauty of everyday moments to the meditation of writing, this conversation reveals how poetry can help us discover a different way of engaging with the world.</p><p> </p><p>## About Dan Smart</p><p>Dan Smart is a talented poet and writer based in Chicago, known for his ability to capture the essence of everyday life through his poetry. He has a popular blog where he shares his work, and his recent book, <i>Flowers of Nonchalance</i>, showcases his unique voice and perspective on the world.</p><p> </p><p>## The Poet's Perspective on Everyday Life</p><p>In our conversation, Dan shares how poets experience the world differently. "It's a noticing life," he explains. Poets like Dan are constantly seeking out beauty and surprise in the mundane. He describes writing poetry as a meditative practice, allowing him to pay careful attention to the world around him. This attentiveness not only enriches his creative process but also helps him navigate life’s anxieties.</p><p> </p><p>## The Creative Process: From Observation to Creation</p><p>Dan emphasizes that poetry isn't just about capturing a moment; it's about exploring the deeper truths within those moments. He explains that ideas often come during the writing process itself, rather than as fully formed thoughts. This means that poets must be open to discovery, allowing their writing to evolve organically.</p><p> </p><p>### Tips for Aspiring Poets</p><p>1. <b>Keep a Journal</b>: Regularly jot down observations and feelings to spark creativity.</p><p>2. <b>Read Widely</b>: Exposure to different styles and voices can inspire your own writing.</p><p>3. <b>Embrace Imperfection</b>: Don’t aim for perfection; let your ideas flow freely and refine them later.</p><p> </p><p>In our discussion, we also explore a few of Dan's poems. "At the Crosswalk" captures the feeling of being small in a bustling city. The imagery he uses evokes a sense of freedom and wonder, reminding us that even in urban settings, nature plays a significant role in our experiences. And in "The Defense Rests," the poet, startled by nature's beauty, engages very directly with faith.</p><p> </p><p>## Conclusion</p><p>Dan Smart’s insights into the world of poetry remind us that there is beauty in every moment if we choose to notice it. By cultivating mindfulness and creativity, we can enhance our lives and the lives of those around us through the art of poetry. If you're interested in exploring more about Dan and his work, check out his <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com" target="_blank">blog</a> and <i>Flowers of Nonchalance</i>.</p><p></p><p>The poem <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com/2026/02/the-defense-rests.html?m=1" target="_blank">The Defense Rests</a></p><p>The poem <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com/2021/09/at-crosswalk.html?m=1" target="_blank">At The Crosswalk</a></p><p></p><p>Dan Smart's blog <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com/?m=1" target="_blank">Rhythm is the Instrument</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:33:52The Beauty in Everyday Life: Insights from Dan Smartfull<![CDATA[Regalito, with guest poet Diego Baez]]>In this episode, poet Diego Baez discusses the significance of poetry in fostering understanding across divides, shares insights into his creative process, and reads his evocative poem 'Regalito.' We explore themes of language, heritage, and the power of poetry to connect generations and cultures.

keywords

Poetry, Language, Heritage, Cultural Identity, Creative Process, 'Regalito', Diego Baez, Poetry in Education, Bilingualism, Cultural Heritage

key topics

  • The role of poetry in fostering understanding and connection
  • The significance of language and heritage in personal identity
  • The creative process behind writing 'Regalito' and other poems

takeaways

  • Poetry helps bridge divides by highlighting similarities and shared human experiences.
  • Language is a vital part of cultural identity and heritage, often passed down through family and community.
  • The process of writing poetry involves both factual memory and poetic truth, which may not always align.
  • Sharing poetry in educational settings can inspire and connect with young people, fostering a love for the art form.

sound bites

"Poetry feels natural and makes the most sense to me."

"The best poems are true, even if they're not always factual."

"There's not a word for that in Spanish."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

01:06 Poetry's Role in Bridging Divides

03:23 The Personal Significance of Poetry

05:38 Reading 'Regalito'

07:11 Language, Heritage, and Cultural Identity

09:56 Poetry in Education and Outreach

14:39 Writing 'Regalito' and Creative Process

19:19 The Significance of Heritage Languages

24:59 Closing Remarks and Final Reading

resources

Diego Baez's Website, where you can find his book - https://diegobiaz.com

Diamond Sharp - Super Sad Black Girl

Jordan Perez - Santa Tarantula

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>bd28c1dc-fe68-4d6e-bd2d-db9db1a2707dTue, 10 Mar 2026 23:25:35 GMT<p>In this episode, poet Diego Baez discusses the significance of poetry in fostering understanding across divides, shares insights into his creative process, and reads his evocative poem 'Regalito.' We explore themes of language, heritage, and the power of poetry to connect generations and cultures.</p><p></p><p> keywords</p><p>Poetry, Language, Heritage, Cultural Identity, Creative Process, 'Regalito', Diego Baez, Poetry in Education, Bilingualism, Cultural Heritage</p><p></p><p> key topics</p><ul><li>The role of poetry in fostering understanding and connection</li><li>The significance of language and heritage in personal identity</li><li>The creative process behind writing 'Regalito' and other poems</li></ul><p></p><p> takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry helps bridge divides by highlighting similarities and shared human experiences.</li><li>Language is a vital part of cultural identity and heritage, often passed down through family and community.</li><li>The process of writing poetry involves both factual memory and poetic truth, which may not always align.</li><li>Sharing poetry in educational settings can inspire and connect with young people, fostering a love for the art form.</li></ul><p></p><p> sound bites</p><p>"Poetry feels natural and makes the most sense to me."</p><p>"The best poems are true, even if they're not always factual."</p><p>"There's not a word for that in Spanish."</p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction</p><p>01:06 Poetry's Role in Bridging Divides</p><p>03:23 The Personal Significance of Poetry</p><p>05:38 Reading 'Regalito'</p><p>07:11 Language, Heritage, and Cultural Identity</p><p>09:56 Poetry in Education and Outreach</p><p>14:39 Writing 'Regalito' and Creative Process</p><p>19:19 The Significance of Heritage Languages</p><p>24:59 Closing Remarks and Final Reading</p><p></p><p> resources</p><p></p><p>Diego Baez's Website, where you can find his book - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://diegobiaz.com" target="_blank">https://diegobiaz.com</a></p><p></p><p>Diamond Sharp - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Super-Black-Girl-Diamond-Sharp/dp/1642598844" target="_blank">Super Sad Black Girl</a></p><p></p><p>Jordan Perez - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Santa-Tarantula-Andrés-Montoya-Poetry/dp/0268207526" target="_blank">Santa Tarantula</a></p><p></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a> </p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p><p></p><p></p>no00:31:41Regalito, with guest poet Diego Baezfull<![CDATA[Edna St. Vincent Millay - Three Poems]]>The conversation delves into the exploration of poetry, focusing on the works of Edna St. Vincent Millay. It includes an analysis of her poems, the use of rhyme in poetry, and the technique of reading poems fast and slow to gain a deeper understanding. The discussion also touches on the exploration of limericks and poetry for young audiences.

Takeaways

  • Exploring the technique of reading poems fast and slow to gain a deeper understanding.
  • Connecting poems by the same poet to identify themes and connections.
  • The use of rhyme in poetry and its impact on the reading experience.

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn
  • 12:04 Analyzing the Poem 'Pity Me Not Because the Light of Day'
  • 18:54 Discussion of the Poem 'You Will Be Sorry for That Word'

Edna St. Vincent Millay poems feaured in this podcast:

First Fig

Pity me not because the light of day

Oh, oh, you will be sorry for that word!

Information about The Uptown Poetry Slam can be found here. Here's Marc Kelly Smith is considered the founder of the slam poetry movement. 

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

 

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>6a74d17f-9fe1-473e-93c1-153b736de67dMon, 02 Mar 2026 23:13:31 GMT<p>The conversation delves into the exploration of poetry, focusing on the works of Edna St. Vincent Millay. It includes an analysis of her poems, the use of rhyme in poetry, and the technique of reading poems fast and slow to gain a deeper understanding. The discussion also touches on the exploration of limericks and poetry for young audiences.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Exploring the technique of reading poems fast and slow to gain a deeper understanding.</li><li>Connecting poems by the same poet to identify themes and connections.</li><li>The use of rhyme in poetry and its impact on the reading experience.</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn</li><li>12:04 Analyzing the Poem 'Pity Me Not Because the Light of Day'</li><li>18:54 Discussion of the Poem 'You Will Be Sorry for That Word'</li></ul><p></p><p>Edna St. Vincent Millay poems feaured in this podcast:</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://poets.org/poem/first-fig" target="_blank">First Fig</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/148560/pity-me-not-because-the-light-of-day" target="_blank">Pity me not because the light of day</a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/148561/oh-oh-you-will-be-sorry-for-that-word" target="_blank">Oh, oh, you will be sorry for that word!</a></p><p></p><p>Information about The Uptown Poetry Slam can be <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://greenmilljazz.com/events/3pm-5pm-uptown-poetry-slam/" target="_blank">found here</a>. Here's <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/marc-kelly-smith" target="_blank">Marc Kelly Smith</a> is considered the founder of the slam poetry movement. </p><p></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p> </p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p>no00:23:32Edna St. Vincent Millay - Three Poemsfull<![CDATA[Demeter's Last Stand, by Joanne Diaz and an interview with Mike Theune]]>Summary

In this episode of The Poetic Turn, hosts Darren and Evan engage with Professor Mike Theune to explore the concept of the poetic turn, particularly through the lens of the poem 'Demeter's Last Stand' by Joanne Diaz. They discuss the significance of the turn in poetry, its structural and emotional implications, and how it enhances reader engagement. The conversation delves into the myth of Demeter and Persephone, the mechanics of poetic turns, and recommendations for discovering impactful poetry.

Read "Demeter's Last Stand" here (scroll down)

Mike Theune's website, with much more about the poetic turn or volta: https://structureandsurprise.com. Another project of Mike's that has poems with interesting poetic turns, called VoltagePoetry.com.

That famous Shakespearean sonnet with the easy-to-see poetic turn.

The book by John Ciardi, How Does a Poem Mean?

A link to the English Department at Illinois Wesleyan University, where Mike Theune and poet Joanne Diaz both teach.

Takeaways

  • The poetic turn is a significant shift in a poem's trajectory.
  • Understanding the turn can enhance reader engagement with poetry.
  • The volta is a crucial element in sonnets and other poetic forms.
  • Poetic turns can be both structural and emotional.
  • The turn often delivers a fitting surprise that resonates with the reader.
  • The myth of Demeter and Persephone illustrates themes of loss and protection.
  • Great poetry often features turns that surprise and engage the reader.
  • Finding great poems involves exploring various poets and their works.
  • The poetic turn can transform a simple narrative into a profound emotional experience.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn

01:10 Understanding the Poetic Turn

03:35 Defining the Poetic Turn

08:17 The Role of the Turn in Poetry

12:24 Exploring John Ciardi's Insights

16:10 The Structure of Poetry and Surprise

18:21 Reading 'Demeter's Last Stand'

23:24 Analyzing the Myth of Demeter and Persephone

25:25 The Nuances of the Poetic Turn

27:57 The Shift to Lyrical Mode

29:13 Eternal Gratitude and Personal Reflection

31:02 Fitting Surprise in Poetry

34:04 The Poetic Turn: Crafting Meaning

37:10 Exploring the Heart of Analysis

39:50 Celebrating Poetic Voices

48:20 The Power of Gratitude in Poetry

49:33 Finding Great Poems

Keywords

poetry, poetic turn, volta, Demeter's Last Stand, literary analysis, poetry education, reader engagement, poetic structure, surprise in poetry, contemporary poetry

Darren's website: www.darrensvoice.com

Evan's website: www.evancarlsonactor.com

Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art

]]>f392c89c-2041-47a9-ae37-1b2de5d22fe6Wed, 18 Feb 2026 23:21:42 GMT<p><b>Summary</b></p><p></p><p>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, hosts Darren and Evan engage with Professor Mike Theune to explore the concept of the poetic turn, particularly through the lens of the poem 'Demeter's Last Stand' by Joanne Diaz. They discuss the significance of the turn in poetry, its structural and emotional implications, and how it enhances reader engagement. The conversation delves into the myth of Demeter and Persephone, the mechanics of poetic turns, and recommendations for discovering impactful poetry.</p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://michaeldennispoet.blogspot.com/2017/04/my-favorite-tyrant-joanne-diaz.html" target="_blank">Read "Demeter's Last Stand" here</a> (scroll down)</p><p></p><p>Mike Theune's website, with much more about the poetic turn or volta: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://structureandsurprise.com" target="_blank">https://structureandsurprise.com</a>. Another project of Mike's that has poems with interesting poetic turns, called <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://voltagepoetry.com" target="_blank">VoltagePoetry.com</a>.</p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45090/sonnet-29-when-in-disgrace-with-fortune-and-mens-eyes" target="_blank">That famous Shakespearean sonnet</a> with the easy-to-see poetic turn. </p><p></p><p>The book by John Ciardi, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Does-Poem-Mean-John-Ciardi/dp/B000GQW5AG" target="_blank">How Does a Poem Mean?</a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.iwu.edu/english/" target="_blank">A link to the English Department</a> at Illinois Wesleyan University, where Mike Theune and poet Joanne Diaz both teach. </p><p></p><p><b>Takeaways</b></p><p></p><ul><li>The poetic turn is a significant shift in a poem's trajectory.</li><li>Understanding the turn can enhance reader engagement with poetry.</li><li>The volta is a crucial element in sonnets and other poetic forms.</li><li>Poetic turns can be both structural and emotional.</li><li>The turn often delivers a fitting surprise that resonates with the reader.</li><li>The myth of Demeter and Persephone illustrates themes of loss and protection.</li><li>Great poetry often features turns that surprise and engage the reader.</li><li>Finding great poems involves exploring various poets and their works.</li><li>The poetic turn can transform a simple narrative into a profound emotional experience.</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p>00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn</p><p>01:10 Understanding the Poetic Turn</p><p>03:35 Defining the Poetic Turn</p><p>08:17 The Role of the Turn in Poetry</p><p>12:24 Exploring John Ciardi's Insights</p><p>16:10 The Structure of Poetry and Surprise</p><p>18:21 Reading 'Demeter's Last Stand'</p><p>23:24 Analyzing the Myth of Demeter and Persephone</p><p>25:25 The Nuances of the Poetic Turn</p><p>27:57 The Shift to Lyrical Mode</p><p>29:13 Eternal Gratitude and Personal Reflection</p><p>31:02 Fitting Surprise in Poetry</p><p>34:04 The Poetic Turn: Crafting Meaning</p><p>37:10 Exploring the Heart of Analysis</p><p>39:50 Celebrating Poetic Voices</p><p>48:20 The Power of Gratitude in Poetry</p><p>49:33 Finding Great Poems</p><p></p><p><b>Keywords</b></p><p>poetry, poetic turn, volta, Demeter's Last Stand, literary analysis, poetry education, reader engagement, poetic structure, surprise in poetry, contemporary poetry</p><p></p><p>Darren's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.darrensvoice.com" target="_blank">www.darrensvoice.com</a></p><p>Evan's website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.evancarlsonactor.com" target="_blank">www.evancarlsonactor.com</a></p><p></p><p>Our cover art is by Lara Johnson: @lara_johnson_art</p>no00:49:09Demeter's Last Stand, by Joanne Diaz and an interview with Mike Theunefull<![CDATA[The Road Not Taken, by Robert Frost]]>The Poetic Turn podcast discusses the famous poem 'The Road Not Taken' by Robert Frost, exploring its deeper meaning and the misconceptions surrounding it. The hosts share their personal interpretations and insights, shedding light on the complexity of choices and the creation of meaning.

Takeaways

  • Choices and their impact
  • The complexity of creating meaning

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn Podcast
  • 07:09 The Deeper Meaning and the Poem's Context
  • 18:11 Reading and Reflecting on the Poem

A link to The Road Not Taken

A trailer for the film starring Andy Griffith, A Face In The Crowd

Darren mentioned singing the poem's words in a choir when he was in high school! A link to a performance of the piece is here.

]]>07ad255f-35c8-418b-9e12-17ab186190dbTue, 10 Feb 2026 20:01:30 GMT<p>The Poetic Turn podcast discusses the famous poem 'The Road Not Taken' by Robert Frost, exploring its deeper meaning and the misconceptions surrounding it. The hosts share their personal interpretations and insights, shedding light on the complexity of choices and the creation of meaning.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Choices and their impact</li><li>The complexity of creating meaning</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn Podcast</li><li>07:09 The Deeper Meaning and the Poem's Context</li><li>18:11 Reading and Reflecting on the Poem</li></ul><p></p><p>A link to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44272/the-road-not-taken" target="_blank">The Road Not Taken</a></p><p></p><p>A trailer for the film starring Andy Griffith, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lrmxkF-UKM" target="_blank"><b>A Face In The Crowd</b></a></p><p></p><p>Darren mentioned singing the poem's words in a choir when he was in high school! A link to a performance of the piece <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjYPkA1QYc" target="_blank">is here</a>. </p>no00:19:11The Road Not Taken, by Robert Frostfull<![CDATA[The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum, by Austin Smith]]>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, hosts Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson explore the poem 'The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum' by Austin Smith. They discuss the themes of humor, the Midwestern experience, and the importance of art in small towns. The conversation delves into the role of poetry in expressing personal and cultural narratives, as well as techniques for reading and interpreting poetry. The hosts emphasize their passion for poetry and their desire to share it with a wider audience.

A link to The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum.

Here's a link to Austin Smith's book Almanac.

Takeaways

  • The hosts are passionate about poetry and want to share it with others.
  • Austin Smith's poetry resonates with the Midwestern experience.
  • Humor can be an effective tool in poetry.
  • Art and museums play a vital role in small towns.
  • Reading poetry can be approached like prose for a different perspective.
  • Thematic analysis of poetry can reveal deeper meanings.
  • The hosts aim to promote poetry without commercial influence.
  • Every small town should have access to the arts.
  • Poetry often explores personal and cultural narratives.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn

02:45 Exploring the Poem: The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum

05:30 Thematic Analysis of Austin Smith's Poetry

08:23 The Role of Humor in Poetry

11:00 The Importance of Art in Small Towns

13:50 Reading and Interpretation Techniques

15:42 Conclusion and Acknowledgments

]]>b0b48087-2d7a-4f09-8bf9-365bd0d90e80Fri, 06 Feb 2026 20:31:02 GMT<p>In this episode of The Poetic Turn, hosts Darren Stephens and Evan Carlson explore the poem 'The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum' by Austin Smith. They discuss the themes of humor, the Midwestern experience, and the importance of art in small towns. The conversation delves into the role of poetry in expressing personal and cultural narratives, as well as techniques for reading and interpreting poetry. The hosts emphasize their passion for poetry and their desire to share it with a wider audience.</p><p></p><p>A link to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781400848034-036/html?lang=en&amp;srsltid=AfmBOopaBlMaVtRDm4FsLiw2vgWN8cvFS_By3ikM4CcSH2WiWFdHJcTA" target="_blank">The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum</a>.</p><p></p><p>Here's a link to Austin Smith's book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/almanac-austin-smith/e8288e982635d108" target="_blank">Almanac</a>.</p><p></p><p><b>Takeaways</b></p><p></p><ul><li>The hosts are passionate about poetry and want to share it with others.</li><li>Austin Smith's poetry resonates with the Midwestern experience.</li><li>Humor can be an effective tool in poetry.</li><li>Art and museums play a vital role in small towns.</li><li>Reading poetry can be approached like prose for a different perspective.</li><li>Thematic analysis of poetry can reveal deeper meanings.</li><li>The hosts aim to promote poetry without commercial influence.</li><li>Every small town should have access to the arts.</li><li>Poetry often explores personal and cultural narratives.</li></ul><p></p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p>00:00 Introduction to The Poetic Turn</p><p>02:45 Exploring the Poem: The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum</p><p>05:30 Thematic Analysis of Austin Smith's Poetry</p><p>08:23 The Role of Humor in Poetry</p><p>11:00 The Importance of Art in Small Towns</p><p>13:50 Reading and Interpretation Techniques</p><p>15:42 Conclusion and Acknowledgments</p><p></p>no00:18:07The Mummy in the Freeport Art Museum, by Austin Smithfull<![CDATA[The Chimney Sweeper, by William Blake]]>The conversation delves into the power of poetry as a means of social commentary and its impact on social change. It explores the personal connections to poetry and the discussion of William Blake's poem 'The Chimney Sweeper.' The hosts reflect on the impact of the poem and its relevance to contemporary issues, encouraging listeners to engage with poetry as a means of disruption and reflection.

Takeaways

  • Poetry as a means of social commentary
  • The impact of poetry on social change

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Poetry and Age Perspectives

02:42 Exploring 'The Chimney Sweeper' by William Blake

05:33 The Plight of Chimney Sweeps and Historical Context

08:14 Sentimentality and Religious Undertones in Poetry

10:52 The Artistic Legacy of William Blake

13:43 Reading and Reflecting on Poetry

16:13 Conclusion and Call to Action

Read The Chimney Sweeper.

]]>82816d67-6fda-4d3c-b6f3-10c6dcb053d2Tue, 27 Jan 2026 22:53:02 GMT<p>The conversation delves into the power of poetry as a means of social commentary and its impact on social change. It explores the personal connections to poetry and the discussion of William Blake's poem 'The Chimney Sweeper.' The hosts reflect on the impact of the poem and its relevance to contemporary issues, encouraging listeners to engage with poetry as a means of disruption and reflection.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry as a means of social commentary</li><li>The impact of poetry on social change</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Introduction to Poetry and Age Perspectives</p><p>02:42 Exploring 'The Chimney Sweeper' by William Blake</p><p>05:33 The Plight of Chimney Sweeps and Historical Context</p><p>08:14 Sentimentality and Religious Undertones in Poetry</p><p>10:52 The Artistic Legacy of William Blake</p><p>13:43 Reading and Reflecting on Poetry</p><p>16:13 Conclusion and Call to Action</p><p></p><p>Read <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43654/the-chimney-sweeper-when-my-mother-died-i-was-very-young" target="_blank">The Chimney Sweeper</a>.</p>no00:19:57The Chimney Sweeper, by William Blakefull<![CDATA[How to Sing, by Dan Smart and an interview]]>The conversation introduces Dan Smart, a poet, and musician, and delves into the importance of daily writing as a habit and the focus on the process over the outcome. It explores the life of a poet, the habit of writing poetry, and how repeated activity can create new neural pathways. Also discussed is the art of a life, the significance of line breaks in poetry and the value of surprise in poetic expression. Also explored is the dedication required to craft poetry on a daily basis.

Takeaways

  • Daily writing as a habit
  • The importance of process over outcome The importance of line breaks in poetry
  • The significance of surprise in poetry

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction to Dan Smart
  • 05:51 The Life of a Poet
  • 12:11 Creating Neural Pathways
  • 18:06 Line Breaks and Poetry
  • 24:08 The Element of Surprise
  • 29:22 Diving into Short Texts

A link to How to Sing is here: https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com/search?q=how+to+sing

A link to Dan's blog Rhythm is the Instrument is here: https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com

]]>f9a5e549-9dd8-42d7-8474-b580e7ef5397Tue, 20 Jan 2026 19:22:43 GMT<p>The conversation introduces Dan Smart, a poet, and musician, and delves into the importance of daily writing as a habit and the focus on the process over the outcome. It explores the life of a poet, the habit of writing poetry, and how repeated activity can create new neural pathways. Also discussed is the art of a life, the significance of line breaks in poetry and the value of surprise in poetic expression. Also explored is the dedication required to craft poetry on a daily basis.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Daily writing as a habit</li><li>The importance of process over outcome The importance of line breaks in poetry</li><li>The significance of surprise in poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction to Dan Smart</li><li>05:51 The Life of a Poet</li><li>12:11 Creating Neural Pathways</li><li>18:06 Line Breaks and Poetry</li><li>24:08 The Element of Surprise</li><li>29:22 Diving into Short Texts</li></ul><p></p><p>A link to How to Sing is here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com/search?q=how+to+sing" target="_blank">https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com/search?q=how+to+sing</a></p><p>A link to Dan's blog Rhythm is the Instrument is here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com" target="_blank">https://www.rhythmistheinstrument.com</a></p>no00:37:36How to Sing, by Dan Smart and an interviewfull<![CDATA[The Fish, by Elizabeth Bishop]]>The Poetic Turn podcast discusses 'The Fish' by Elizabeth Bishop, exploring its themes, emotions, and the impact of its powers of description. The hosts share their insights and encourage listeners to engage with the poem.

Takeaways

  • Poetry as a form of observation
  • The emotional impact of poetry

Chapters

  • 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Subject
  • 07:29 Reading and Discussion of the Poem
  • 13:01 Building Tension and the Poetic Turn in the Poem
  • 18:33 Understanding and Enjoying Poetry

A link to the poem is here: https://allpoetry.com/poem/8493567-The-Fish-by-Elizabeth-Bishop

To purchase “Poems” by Elizabeth Bishop: https://bookshop.org/p/books/poems-elizabeth-bishop/fa7d36cd804bd33b?ean=9780374532369&next=t

]]>e8c2a3b0-34cf-4983-9e75-11e508d595a1Mon, 19 Jan 2026 22:08:55 GMT<p>The Poetic Turn podcast discusses 'The Fish' by Elizabeth Bishop, exploring its themes, emotions, and the impact of its powers of description. The hosts share their insights and encourage listeners to engage with the poem.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry as a form of observation</li><li>The emotional impact of poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Introduction and Podcast Subject</li><li>07:29 Reading and Discussion of the Poem</li><li>13:01 Building Tension and the Poetic Turn in the Poem</li><li>18:33 Understanding and Enjoying Poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>A link to the poem is here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/8493567-The-Fish-by-Elizabeth-Bishop" target="_blank">https://allpoetry.com/poem/8493567-The-Fish-by-Elizabeth-Bishop</a></p><p></p><p>To purchase “Poems” by Elizabeth Bishop: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/poems-elizabeth-bishop/fa7d36cd804bd33b?ean=9780374532369&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>https://bookshop.org/p/books/poems-elizabeth-bishop/fa7d36cd804bd33b?ean=9780374532369&amp;next=t</i></a></p>no00:19:4415The Fish, by Elizabeth Bishopfull<![CDATA[In the Desert, by Stephen Crane]]>The conversation explores the value of poetry as a means of escape and reflection, delving into the works of Stephen Crane and his unique approach to poetry. The discussion highlights the impact of Crane's poems and their relevance in the context of modern poetry appreciation.

Takeaways

  • Poetry as an escape
  • Stephen Crane's unique approach to poetry

Chapters

  • 00:00 The Value of Poetry
  • 11:03 In the Desert by Stephen Crane
  • 18:24 A Man Saw a Ball of Gold in the Sky

Link to The Desert: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46457/in-the-desert-56d2265793693

The Black Riders, and Other Lines by Stephen Crane can be found here: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/40786

Darren and Evan have both worked with improv teacher Dave Razowsky. His book is A Subversive's

Guide to Improv.

]]>ec049574-867a-44c3-bd69-ed4449f9172dMon, 12 Jan 2026 20:26:16 GMT<p>The conversation explores the value of poetry as a means of escape and reflection, delving into the works of Stephen Crane and his unique approach to poetry. The discussion highlights the impact of Crane's poems and their relevance in the context of modern poetry appreciation.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry as an escape</li><li>Stephen Crane's unique approach to poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 The Value of Poetry</li><li>11:03 In the Desert by Stephen Crane</li><li>18:24 A Man Saw a Ball of Gold in the Sky</li></ul><p></p><p>Link to The Desert: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46457/in-the-desert-56d2265793693" target="_blank">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46457/in-the-desert-56d2265793693</a></p><p></p><p>The Black Riders, and Other Lines by Stephen Crane can be found here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/40786" target="_blank">https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/40786</a></p><p></p><p>Darren and Evan have both worked with improv teacher <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.davidrazowsky.com" target="_blank">Dave Razowsky</a>. His book is <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWKBYYK?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VY4SANWA56G43DWZN084" target="_blank">A Subversive's </a></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWKBYYK?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VY4SANWA56G43DWZN084" target="_blank">Guide to Improv</a>. </p>no00:22:13In the Desert, by Stephen Cranefull<![CDATA[To Carelessness, by Kenneth Koch]]>The conversation delves into the significance of poetry in different stages of life, the power of poetry to evoke emotions and images, an exploration of the poem 'To Carelessness' by Kenneth Koch, and an analysis of the line breaks in the poem.

Takeaways

  • Poetry as a Source of Connection
  • The Impact of Line Breaks in Poetry

A link to the poem is here:

https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2003%252F03%252F29.html

Theater bookstore in Chicago that we mentioned is called The Understudy: https://www.theunderstudy.com

Legendary improviser and director Mick Napier is mentioned. His website is https://www.micknapier.com

Mick founded a great improv and comedy theater in Chicago called The Annoyance: https://www.theannoyance.com

Darren's longtime friend Roberta is the retired librarian wno read a lovely children's picture book at a salon. The book was December, by Eve Bunting.

Chapters

  • 00:00 The Significance of Poetry in Different Stages of Life
  • 07:14 Exploring the Poem 'To Carelessness' by Kenneth Koch
  • 14:09 Analyzing the Line Breaks in 'To Carelessness'
]]>9333c4a3-674d-4c19-9843-8142ad966a42Tue, 06 Jan 2026 19:36:16 GMT<p>The conversation delves into the significance of poetry in different stages of life, the power of poetry to evoke emotions and images, an exploration of the poem 'To Carelessness' by Kenneth Koch, and an analysis of the line breaks in the poem.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry as a Source of Connection</li><li>The Impact of Line Breaks in Poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>A link to the poem is here:</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2003%252F03%252F29.html" target="_blank">https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2003%252F03%252F29.html</a></p><p></p><p>Theater bookstore in Chicago that we mentioned is called The Understudy: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.theunderstudy.com" target="_blank">https://www.theunderstudy.com</a></p><p></p><p>Legendary improviser and director Mick Napier is mentioned. His website is <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.micknapier.com" target="_blank">https://www.micknapier.com</a> </p><p></p><p>Mick founded a great improv and comedy theater in Chicago called The Annoyance: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.theannoyance.com" target="_blank">https://www.theannoyance.com</a></p><p></p><p>Darren's longtime friend Roberta is the retired librarian wno read a lovely children's picture book at a salon. The book was <i>December</i>, by Eve Bunting. </p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 The Significance of Poetry in Different Stages of Life</li><li>07:14 Exploring the Poem 'To Carelessness' by Kenneth Koch</li><li>14:09 Analyzing the Line Breaks in 'To Carelessness'</li></ul>no00:18:2312To Carelessness, by Kenneth Kochfull<![CDATA[Welcome to The Poetic Turn - Poems by Billy Collins and Archibald McLeish]]>The conversation explores the idea of a poetry podcast, the concept of the poetic turn in poetry, the impact of poetry on perception, interpreting Ars Poetica, and the impact of wordless poetry. The key takeaways include the impactful and wordless nature of poetry and the concept of the poetic turn in poetry.

Takeaways

  • Poetry as an impactful and wordless art
  • The concept of the poetic turn in poetry

Chapters

  • 00:00 Exploring the Idea of a Poetry Podcast
  • 07:57 The Impact of Poetry on Perception
  • 13:12 The Impact of Wordless Poetry

A link to Introduction to Poetry is here: https://allpoetry.com/introduction-to-poetry

A link to Ars Poetica, by Archibald McLeish is here: https://poets.org/poem/ars-poetica

]]>5f6da288-248d-40a3-ae97-8ffe9fe84eabTue, 06 Jan 2026 19:34:28 GMT<p>The conversation explores the idea of a poetry podcast, the concept of the poetic turn in poetry, the impact of poetry on perception, interpreting Ars Poetica, and the impact of wordless poetry. The key takeaways include the impactful and wordless nature of poetry and the concept of the poetic turn in poetry.</p><p></p><p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Poetry as an impactful and wordless art</li><li>The concept of the poetic turn in poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Exploring the Idea of a Poetry Podcast</li><li>07:57 The Impact of Poetry on Perception</li><li>13:12 The Impact of Wordless Poetry</li></ul><p></p><p>A link to Introduction to Poetry is here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://allpoetry.com/introduction-to-poetry" target="_blank">https://allpoetry.com/introduction-to-poetry</a></p><p></p><p>A link to Ars Poetica, by Archibald McLeish is here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://poets.org/poem/ars-poetica" target="_blank">https://poets.org/poem/ars-poetica</a></p>no00:13:0511Welcome to The Poetic Turn - Poems by Billy Collins and Archibald McLeishfull