Land and People

EP 77 Water planner Barry Usagawa on caring for Oʻahu’s water from mauka to makai

Melissa Chimera — Tue, 20 Oct 2026 01:35:58 GMT

In Season 5 of Land and People, hosted by Melissa Chimera and Clay Trauernicht, and produced by Kaheāwai Media, we turn our attention to Oʻahu and the water issues that have been top of mind for so many after 2026’s extreme weather, beginning with the Kona lows. Along the way, we’ll also hear from experts across Hawaiʻi whose knowledge spans everything from rapid response after climate events to long-term stewardship of wai, ʻāina, and communities.

In our Season 5 premiere, we’re joined by Barry Usagawa, Water Resources Program Administrator at the Honolulu Board of Water Supply.

Barry traces his connection to land and water back to his upbringing in Hilo, his father’s work as a forester, and more than four decades in public service. The conversation explores watershed stewardship, extreme rainfall and flood response, climate adaptation, and the value of community-led, mauka-to-makai management of water systems on Oʻahu.

Key takeaways:

Healthy forests are essential infrastructure for reliable water.
Extreme rainfall calls for long-term, integrated preparation — not just emergency response.
Cultural knowledge and community leadership are central to sustainable resource management.
Traditional practices based on Hawaiian ahupuaʻa management now guide the Board of Water Supply’s own approach

Chapters:

00:00 ~ Welcome to Season Five
04:12 ~ Meet Barry Usagawa
11:37 ~ A Career in Water Service
20:57 ~ Land Use, Water, and Watersheds
29:29 ~ From Water Supply to Watershed Stewardship
34:29 ~ Responding to Flooding and Emergencies
45:22 ~ Climate Adaptation Through One Water
57:14 ~ Community-Led Water Planning

Topics:

Watershed protection; public water systems; the Waiāhole Ditch case; flood preparedness; reservoirs and emergency response; climate adaptation; recycled water; seawater desalination; stream restoration; ahupuaʻa-based planning; community stewardship.

Credits:

Guest: Barry Usagawa
Hosts: Melissa Chimera & Clay Trauernicht
Producers: Kaheāwai Media (Tyler Sonnemaker & Landon Tom)

EP 17 Season 1 Bonus: Kekuhi Keali`ikanaka`ole on how we find family in `āina

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 09 Jun 2023 14:02:48 GMT

Bonus Episode Season 1: Dr. Clay Trauernicht and Melissa Chimera talk with renowned chanter, dancer, songwriter and educator Kekuhi Keali`ikanaka`ole about the intimate connection between humans and the Hawaiian landscape as practiced in Hawaiian lifeways. Her perspective is that of a descendent from the legendary Kanaka`ole family, most notably her grandmother Edith Kekuhi Kanaka`ole, one of Hawai`i's first educators who made language and dance accessible to all. She talks about connecting conservation science to Hawaiian thought and understanding through her work with Hālau `Ōhi`a and the ways in which we might connect more deeply with the creatures and plants which surround us. Visit https://www.kekuhi.com/ for more information on how you can enroll in programs and learn directly from Kekuhi.

EP 20 Climatologist Tom Giambelluca on how the changing Hawaiian weather and climate affects fire and water

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 29 Sep 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Tom Giambelluca, University of Hawai`i (UH) at Mānoa geography and environment professor has been studying and teaching Hawaiian weather and climate in relation to the land and water across the archipelago for 46 years. In the aftermath of the devastating fires on Maui, we ask him to unpack the local atmospheric trends of the past and future, specifically how climate warming is creating greater risk for more wildfires in Hawai`i. As director of the UH Water Resources Research Center, we get to ask him how different land covers (native and invasive) affect the hydrology of a given area--specifically water in the streams, on the ground, and in the air.

EP 31 Landscape designer and naturalist Leland Miyano on loving a place through science and art

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 01 Mar 2024 15:00:00 GMT

For over five decades landscape designer, sculptor and naturalist Leland Miyano has connected people to Hawaiian native ecosystems through his gardens in Kahulu`u, at the Bishop Museum and at The Contemporary Museum in Honolulu. In 2019, he created an award winning double hulled canoe installation comprised of invasive guava branches which reflects a Hawaiian sense of place while acknowledging the massive ecosystem transformations Hawai`i has undergone. He shows us his native Hawaiian garden at the Atherton Halau, his work in stone and wood, and talks about his life-long passion for endemic species from snails to plants as an expression of connectivity between science and art.

EP 15 Waipi`o Valley’s Mock Chew family on how multi-generational kalo farming is love for the land & each other

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 19 May 2023 15:00:00 GMT

In this episode, co-hosts Dr. Clay Trauernicht and Melissa Chimera go on-location to the Hamākua coast of Hawai`i Island. They interview Jayson and Alberta Mock Chew and their daughter Kahealani about the history of kalo (taro) farming and the family transition into poi production with their business Mokuwai Piko Poi. Their kalo farming roots go back six generations in Waipi`o Valley, a sacred and highly productive valley that still sustains farmers and residents, some with centuries-old ancestral ties to the land and sea. Kahealani and her parents talk about the hardships, joy and love brought by a life close to the land and how this affects their relationships, livelihoods and outlook on life.

EP 33 Native Nursery’s Ethan Romanchak on making Maui productive in agriculture once again

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 29 Mar 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Native Nursery on Maui is one of the largest Hawaiian native plant growers in Hawai`i founded by lifelong friends and partners Ethan Romanchak and Jonathan Keyser. With twenty years of experience in native species horticulture, rare plant propagation and ecosystem restoration, their business now includes growing citrus to help re-claim and make productive once more thousands of acres of former sugar lands in the central valley. We talk to them about growing up on Maui, running a business together, and witnessing the massive changes in Maui--from commercial development to environmental challenges including the recent fires.

EP 41 Artist Abigail Romanchak on uncovering the unseen Hawaiian environment through the visual language of printmaking

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 11 Oct 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Abigail Romanchak was born and raised on Maui and is a native Hawaiian printmaker who conveys the Hawaiian environment–the sounds, bird songs, human footprints across Haleakalā–through the medium of printmaking. She has both a Bachelors and Masters in Fine Art with a specialty in printmaking from the University of Hawai‘i, Mānoa and her work has been shown and collected by museums and institutions throughout the world. She takes her inspiration from uncovering the hidden, sometimes minute patterns in nature and art–from nearly invisible watermarks made by Hawaiian kapa beaters on wauke (or mulberry) to the rings made by trees that mark cycles of drought. Through her bold use of abstract lines and geometric shapes, her work is an intentional departure from commercial representations of the Hawaiian landscape, specifically in the following work: her Kahea series (or the visualization of Hawaiian bird calls), the silence of Haleakalā as represented by sound waves in the Ke Ano series, the Pilina series of prints made with ash from the Kula 2023 fires on Maui, and her Tracked series of human conservation activity.

EP 57 Kauaʻi land steward and advocate Billy Kinney on how the land is our first teacher

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 15 May 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Billy Kinney is a storyteller, cultural practitioner, connector and land back advocate whose family traces its lineage, care and kuleana to Kauaʻi’s north shore. Growing up in the 1980s and 1990s during Hanalei river’s “boating wars,” Billy unpacks the challenges and opportunities for local people to connect and reconnect with ʻāina amidst unrestrained tourism and development, thereby redirecting the future of sacred places like Hāʻena. As the Assistant Director of the Hui Makaʻāinana o Makana he carries forward the group’s mission to interpret, restore, care and protect the natural and cultural resources within the Hāʻena State Park. He shares how he traverses many worlds--both western and Hawaiian--and how his intimate traditional stewardship knowledge can sometimes complement or come into conflict with his academic background in urban regional planning.

EP 76 Biologist Sierra McDaniel on conserving the inheritance of Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 30 May 2026 16:13:42 GMT

Sierra McDaniel is the resources management program manager at Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park, having worked at the park for 25 years. She first came to Hawaiʻi as a biology undergraduate and then entered the University of Hawaiʻi at Hiloʻs Tropical Conservation Biology and Environmental Science masters program. She speaks to the challenges of working to conserve ecosystems, endangered species, and cultural values across the 354,461 acres, a place that hosts over 1.5 million visitors annually. We get into the challenges of changing ecosystems in response to fire on the landscape, the value of grounding the biological conservation work in Hawaiian lifeways and what it means to be in a place where volcanic eruptions are a constant presence.

EP 10 Former Molokai Nature Conservancy director Ed Misaki on seeing watershed protection through hard times

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 10 Mar 2023 18:17:50 GMT

Ed Misaki, retired director of Molokai conservation programs for The Nature Conservancy worked since 1982 on the island where he was born and raised. He faced personal and professional challenges most of us can't imagine. His controversial non-native animal removal programs--aimed at removing deer, pigs, and goats--protects the most fragile upland forests. His story is one of resilience through difficult times, inspired by his love and desire to restore and protect the wao akua (native upland forest, or realm of the gods). Ed demonstrates true community engagement and commitment through the good and bad, and the value of ahupua`a protection in garnering and sustaining broader support.

Ep 21 Water expert Jonathan Scheuer on how the history of land use in Hawai`i is the story of water

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Since 1991, Hawai`i water and environmental policy and planning expert Dr. Jonathan Likeke Scheuer has helped people seek a shared, sustainable prosperity for the communities and `āina involved, including the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, the Hawai`i State Land Use Commission, the Hawai`i Land Trust Board, and the O`ahu Island Burial Council. In the aftermath of the August 2023 wildfires on Maui, Melissa and Clay talk with Jonathan about the 2021 book he co-authored with Bianca Isaki WATER AND POWER IN WEST MAUI. We come to understand how water in Hawai`i is inextricably tied to the transformation of land, an on-going legacy we are living with today.

EP 19 Hawai`i ethnoecologist Katie Kamelamela on how restoring a place is reciprocity for the giver and the receiver

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Katie Kamelamela, is a Hilo-based Assistant Professor in the Global Discovery and Conservation Science Center at Arizona State University and studies ethnoecology, ecological restoration, Indigenous conceptions of wealth, and Indigenous economies. She shares with us her on-going research into modern and Hawaiian contemporary uses of various plants like kiawe (mesquite), maile and ti (kī) and how these relationships are ever evolving. Dr. Kamelamela takes us to one of her most cherished places: Kaho‘olawe Island in her role as member of Protect Kaho‘olawe ‘Ohana, a grassroots organization dedicated to island's repair and the principles of Aloha ‘Āina. Our discussion brings to light some of the environmental parallels between the island's historical neglect and the ongoing catastrophic fires of Maui. She shares with us the potential for the land to bring about healing, a kind of reciprocity for both the land and its care givers--a testament to the possibility of relationship between the most vulnerable places and those wanting to restore them.

EP 68 Restoring the land is a family affair: researchers Pat Hart, Susan Cordell and Colin Hart on the secret world of plants, birds and cacao

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 05 Dec 2025 17:23:02 GMT

Husband-wife team Dr. .Susan Cordell and Dr. Pat Hart have made their conservation careers in Hawai`i since the early 1990s in their respective fields of native ecosystem restoration ecology and Hawaiian forest birds. In addition to Susan’s research with the U.S. Forest Service Institute of Pacific Island Forestry and Pat’s work on Hawaiian forest bird ecology at the University of Hawai`i at Hilo, the pair have undertaken the restoration of 20 acres of prime farm lands at their home in north Hilo since the early 2000s. Their son Colin Hart has led the transformation of former agricultural fields into the selection, cultivation, processing and selling of boutique chocolate for his company Honoli`i Orchards. The family describes their commitment to Hawai'i's land and people–from students learning about Hawaiian birds, to restoring endangered plants in native ecosystems, and finally cultivating the land to produce a homegrown agricultural product.

EP 23 Maui Nui botanist Hank Oppenheimer on the after fire road to recovery for plants, people and place

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Hank Oppenheimer is a field botanist in Hawai`i for more than 30 years, re-discovering plants thought to be extinct and finding species new to science. He is the Maui Nui coordinator for the Plant Extinction Prevention Program which aims to find, stabilize and help recover the rarest of the rarest Hawaiian plants. Hank has also been witness to significant fires--not only the Lāhaina catastrophe of August 2023--but other fires impacting communities and ecosystems that up until recently escaped the public's attention. We talk candidly about the hardships he and others experience in Maui Komohana (West Maui) and what the long road to recovery might look like now and in the future.

EP 7 Insect biologist and ecosystems advocate Steven Montgomery brings us the beauty & fragility of Hawai`i’s smallest creatures

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:40:01 GMT

Beginning with his arrival in Hawai`i in 1968, Dr. Steven Montgomery University of Hawai‘i at Mānoa entomologist has studied genetics and molecular biology while discovering insects and plants new to science. While his expertise includes an extraordinary array of Hawaiian insects--from picture wing flies to the carnivorous caterpillar found no where else in the world--his passion includes everything from bee keeping and keiki education to Hawaiian ecosystem protection as a former member of Hawai‘i's Land Use Commission.

EP 48 Pacific island botanist Steve Perlman talks about putting your life on the line for the love of nature

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 17 Jan 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Melissa and Clay pivot this season to the oldest island in the Hawaiian archipelago--Kaua`i. They revisit one of their earliest LAND & PEOPLE interviews with retired botanist Steve Perlman, of the Kaua`i Plant Extinction Prevention Program (PEPP). Steve talks about his love of Pacific island peoples in remote places, his start with the National Tropical Botanical Garden, the thrill of discovering new plants, and climbing the highest sea cliffs in the world to save the last of a species.

EP 65 DLNR forester Ed Pettys and Na Ala Hele program manager Debbie Chang on the value of connecting people to places through trails and land stewardship

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 24 Oct 2025 15:36:33 GMT

In this interview, Melissa and Clay interview husband and wife team Ed Pettys and Debbie Chang from their home in Paʻauilo mauka on Hawaiʻi Island about their work helping to connect people to Hawaiian landscapes beginning in the late 1960s. They talk about growing up in Hawaiʻi–Ed from Lihue, Kauaʻi and Debbie from Kohala, Hawaiʻi and meeting through their work in the Department of Land and Natural Resources. Debbie helped to spearhead the new Na ʻAla Hele trails and access program in the 1980s while Edʻs work took him across Micronesia–from Pohnpei to Kosrae, and eventually to Kauaʻi as Forestry and Wildlife District manager. Theirs is a collective understanding of the importance of teamwork and leadership especially in the wake of hurricane Iniki.

EP 29 Marine experts Emily and Ann Fielding on how the beauty, spirit and nourishment of the sea sustains us

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 02 Feb 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Emily and Ann Fielding, the mother-daughter marine duo of Maui have both lived and worked in Hawai`i to help educate and conserve the ocean, its creatures, coral reefs across the Pacific. Ann's experience is as an underwater naturalist where she introduced visitors, kama`aina and students to the abundance of Maui's coral reefs and their creatures. Emily has worked in many capacities from helping to protect one of the largest marine protected areas in the world--Papahānaumokuākea--to conserving the marine life of the Hawaiian archipelago as The Nature Conservancy's Hawai`i Marine Conservation Director. Together they bring us a vision of what real and lasting ocean sustainability might mean for both people and the environment, based on their many decades bridging education, science and culture via community-based management.

EP 44 Part II Jermy Uowolo of Fais, Micronesia on how preserving the past is they key to thriving into the future

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 22 Nov 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Part II of a two-part conversation with Jermy Uowolo, who was born and raised on the island of Fais in the State of Yap, in the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM). Jermy's background is as a Micronesian cultural practitioner, anthropologist, historian and Hawaiian ecosystem restoration specialist for the Mauna Kea Forest Restoration Project. He shares with us the value of gathering and recording knowledge from Micronesian elders and culture keepers, as well as the challenges and opportunties of his own immigration story--from Yap to Guam and eventually Hawai`i Island.

EP 16 Season 1 recap: Melissa & Clay on what they learned, surprises & what’s next

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 26 May 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Co-hosts Melissa Chimera and Dr. Clay Trauernicht reflect on Season One of "Land & People"; what they learned, surprising moments, favorite parts of producing the show, and what's next for Season Two.

EP 32 Hawaiian scholar and educator Kalehua Krug on language and thought as worldview

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Kalehua Krug is a mea kākau (traditional tattooist), musician, activist and school principal at the Hawaiian immersion school Ka Waihona o ka Na`auao in Nānākuli, West O`ahu. His advocacy for land and indigenous philosophy not only stems from his personal journey into Hawaiian identity, but his desire to improve kānaka (Hawaiian) health and educational outcomes, and to expand aloha `āina (love and connection to land) to all. We gain an understanding of how his activism, art and language is rooted in research, learning through practice and an urgency for greater environmental sustainability that transcends ethocentric notions of self.

EP 70 Kekuhi Keali’ikanaka’ole on how we find family in `āina

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 16 Jan 2026 15:00:00 GMT

In this re-released interview, we talk with renowned chanter, dancer, songwriter and educator Kekuhi Keali’ikanaka’ole about the intimate connection between humans and the Hawaiian landscape as practiced in Hawaiian lifeways. Her perspective is that of a descendent from the legendary Kanaka’ole family, most notably her grandmother Edith Kekuhi Kanaka’ole, one of Hawaii's first educators who made language and dance accessible to all. She talks about connecting conservation science to Hawaiian thought and understanding through her work with Hālau `Ōhi`a and the ways in which we might connect more deeply with the creatures and plants which surround us. Visit https://www.kekuhi.com/ for more information on how you can enroll in programs and learn directly from Kekuhi.

EP 1 Hosts Dr. Clay Trauernicht and Melissa Chimera talk about the critical need for understanding ourselves in relation to the land

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 01 Oct 2022 18:06:00 GMT

Hawai`i-based co-hosts Melissa Chimera and Dr. Clay Trauernicht talk about their respective careers in environmental stewardship, art and research and how a more holistic understanding of our place in the natural world is more important than ever before.

EP 58 Co-hosts Melissa and Clay reflect on Season 3 and lessons learned after the 2023 wildfires

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 31 May 2025 02:20:43 GMT

Co-hosts Melissa Chimera and Clay Trauernicht reflect on the past two seasons of Land and People, the most poignant and most difficult moments in the podcast, as well as their shared work at the University of Hawai'i at Mānoa in helping to reduce wildfire risk across the Hawaiian landscape.

EP 71 Hawaiian storyteller and conservationist Hannah Kihalani Springer on how land care begins with aloha for one another

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:00:00 GMT

In this re-release, Clay and Melissa interview Hannah Kihalani Springer of Hawai`i Island, a storyteller, environmental activist, and scholar of Hawaiian history for many decades. As a former trustee for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and advocate for land and sea conservation, she has headed up the nonprofit `Ahahui o Pu`u Wa`awa`a which advocates for the conservation and management of forest systems including endangered Hawaiian plants. Her perspective and that of her husband retired fire fighter Michael Tomich is one of hybridity--in their support for ranching and sheep herding in fire prone grasslands while at the same time restoring native species. She brings us the mo`olelo (place based stories) of Kaʻūpūlehu which demonstrate how we might bring a holistic and reverent relationship to `āina (land) based in aloha kekahi i kekahi (love for one another).

EP 5 Nan Ku`ulei Akau Cabatbat on honoring the land of her ancestors by caring for people

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:02:06 GMT

Retired Hawai`i Pacific Parks artist, educator and Hawaiian cultural practitioner Nanette ("Nan") Ku`ulei Akau Cabatbat speaks to her decades of chanting sunrise`oli at Hāleakala National Park, connecting both kama`āina and visitors alike to the place of her ancestors. She speaks to the values of caring for the land by sharing and connecting with the people under her care first and foremost.

Here comes Season 3!

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 05 Sep 2024 23:40:01 GMT

Co-hosts Melissa Chimera and Clay Trauernicht give you a *sneak peak* of Season 3 coming up very soon!

EP 62 Ethnic studies professor Ty Tengan on re-membering Hawaiian identity in place and cultural practice

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 12 Sep 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Ty Tengan is a professor in the Department of Anthropology at University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa whose work emphasizes ethnic studies in relation to Hawaiian identity and masculinity, sovereignty, land, and militarism. His activism and work extends to running oral history field schools, cultural workshops, water rights and burial site protection. In this conversation, Melissa and Clay talk about Tenganʻs work in native Hawaiian repatriation, and the profound significance of ʻiwi kupuna burial practices perpetuating indigenous worldview. We discuss the “forced amnesia” of colonization and the re-learning and re-membering Hawaiian traditions and practices, especially those around Hawaiian masculinity.

EP 27 A tribute to the father of invasive species management in Hawai`i: Dr. Lloyd Loope

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 05 Jan 2024 15:00:00 GMT

We bring together the family and colleagues of Dr. Lloyd Loope, Maui research biologist and ecologist based at Haleakalā National Park who passed away in 2017. We reflect on his legacy as the cornerstone for Hawaiian invasive species management as we know it today and mentor for so many in island ecosystem conservation. Pat Bily of The Nature Conservancy, Teya Penniman of the Maui Invasive Species Committee, Chuck Chimera of the Hawai`i Invasive Species Council and Lloyd's daughter Brook and son Marshall speak to his unmatched intellect and laser focus, his grace and humility, and above all, his extraordinary dedication and foresight in recognizing the importance of research and conservation across boundaries.

EP 51 Keith Robinson on the complexities of the Robinson family and going at it alone

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 28 Feb 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Keith Robinson of Kaua`i comes from a multi-generational, large land-owning family who has been in Hawai`i for more than 200 years. The Robinsons (descendants of the Sinclairs) owned and operated sugar plantations and cattle ranches across many thousands of acres in Kaua`i, including the entire island of Ni`ihau. A self-described "black sheep", Keith's varied interests range from Ni`ihau defense operations, to ranching and native plant restoration. His passion is as a one-man operation in growing, planting and helping to sustain in some cases rare plant species across Robinson-owned land. He shares his unusual upbringing, as well as his controversial views related to public versus private stewardship of rare species.

EP 14 Botanical curator Mike Demotta on how native ecosystems perpetuate Hawaiian culture

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 05 May 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Mike Demotta, curator of living collections for the Hawai‘i National Tropical Botanical Garden (NTBG) on Kaua'i has lived many lives: from being the garden's horticulturalist, a hula kane (male hula dancer), and speaker of `ōlelo Hawai'i (Hawaiian language) to NTBG's curator of both native and introduced plants at the Limahuli Garden and Preserve. Mike speaks to his knowledge of Hawaiian native ecosystems by way of ancient chant and mo`olelo (stories), while painting the picture of remote places like Ni`ihau and Lehua at the the oldest end of the Hawaiian archipelago. He brings us an appreciation for the role of botanical gardens in both education and rare plant restoration.

EP 42 Legendary waterman and Lahaina leader Archie Kalepa on steering the canoe towards the right path

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 25 Oct 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Archie Kalepa Is a retired ocean safety officer who served the County of Maui for 32 years. Archie is not only a world renowned ocean safety expert and dedicated advocate for Hawaiian culture with decades of experience in rescue operations, cultural preservation and team leadership. He is a pivotal leader in West Maui, as one of the first responders on-scene after the Lahaina fires organizing the ocean delivery of needed food, water and essentials to people stranded and desperate for help. While his big wave surfing and ocean rescue accolades are many, he tells us about how helping and connecting people to the land, ocean and each other--especially in times of crisis--are among his most difficult and rewarding experiences.

EP 61 Part II: Archaeologist and ethnohistorian Ross Cordy on the rise of Hawaiian kingdoms in ancient Hawai‘i

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 29 Aug 2025 21:35:40 GMT

We continue our two-part conversation with Dr. Ross Cordy, Pacific Island Hawaiian-Pacific studies at University of Hawai‘i West O‘ahu. Trained as both an archaeologist and ethnohistorian, Dr. Cordy’s specialty is reconstructing the history of Hawai‘i as told from multiple data sources. In the second half of our discussion, we consider settlement patterns across the Hawaiian archipelago, as well as the rise of countries and kingdoms within the islands themselves. We also talk about the significance of cultural jewels like Wai‘anae and Kukaniloko on O‘ahu and the histories of places in Micronesia.

EP 28 Aquatic biologist Skippy Hau on the secret lives of creatures in Hawaiian streams

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:00:00 GMT

For nearly four decades, Department of Land and Natural Resources aquatic biologist Skippy Hau has been in and out of Maui's oceans, estuaries and streams surveying for Hawaiian fish, shrimp, snails, corals, limu (seeweed) and nearly every living thing he could observe underwater. Growing up as a fisherman's son in Kaneohe, O`ahu, Skippy's love of the sea and streams extends to his on-going survey work, research projects, and his students. He paints the picture of his team's painstaking biology which advocates that diverted water be returned to streams, not only for the benefit of both fresh and salt water creatures but also for traditional Hawaiian subsistence farming.

EP 3 Pacific island botanist Steve Perlman talks about putting your life on the line for the love of nature

Melissa Chimera — Sun, 06 Nov 2022 18:08:00 GMT

Steve Perlman, a botanist for the Kaua`i Plant Extinction Prevention Program (PEPP) talks about his love of Pacific island peoples in remote places, the thrill of discovering new plants, and climbing the highest sea cliffs in the world to save the last of a species.

EP 36 Entomologist Ken Kaneshiro on the courtship, beauty and fragility of Hawaiian picture-wing flies

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 14 Jun 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Entomologist Dr. Ken Kaneshiro at the University of Hawai`i at Mānoa has studied and taught Hawaiian evolution and biology to countless generations of students through the story of the 1,000+ species of Hawaiian drosophila, picture-wing fruit flies descended from a single ancestor. His passion for conservation biology began as a dishwasher on the drosophila project, and has extended to his founding of the Ecology, Evolution and Conservation Biology Graduate Program which has trained many of today's conservation stewards in Hawai`i. As the Program Director for the Center for Conservation Research & Training at the Pacific Biosciences Research Center, he continues to connect students of all ages to the life sciences which stems from his advocacy for a close relationship to nature across all disciplines, social and ethnic backgrounds.

EP 74 Biologist Jim Jacobi on mapping and surveying Hawaii’s unique ecosystems across time and space

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 13 Mar 2026 17:00:11 GMT

Dr. Jim Jacobi has spent the past 50 years in Hawaiʻi as a biologist specializing in mapping Hawai’i’s unique ecosystems and studying the plants and animals contained within them. Like so many of his cohort, he is a skilled naturalist, having worked on introduced rats, native insects first for the Bishop Museum and then mapping vegetation and management research projects for the Pacific Island Ecosystems Research Center of the US Geological Survey in Volcano. We talk to Jim about the evolution of tracking changes in vegetation by hand from aerial photos to the use of computer mapping and modelling. He shares with us the unique experiences heʻs had across the rugged U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service transects that traverse mountainous summits to sea, as well as the profound sorrow in witnessing the last Hawaiian honeycreeper in the wild, the Kauaʻi oʻo.

EP 26 Rare Hawaiian snail expert Keahi Bustamente on how caring for the smallest of creatures makes your heart strong

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 22 Dec 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Keahi Bustamente is the field coordinator for the Maui Nui Snail Extinction Prevention Program. He works across three islands--Maui, Moloka`i and Lāna`i--searching sometimes all day in the steepest, most remote mountains for a single individual. He speaks candidly about the logistical, physical and knowledge challenges in this work as well as the gift his mentors have given him in showing him the species and places most will never see. His kuleana is that of husband, father and professional mentor to others, while recognizing that this essential knowledge is likewise passed down to the next up and coming conservationists.

EP 35 Geologist Scott Rowland on understanding Hawaiian volcanoes, archipelagos and geologic time

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 17 May 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Scott Rowland has studied and taught geology at the University of Hawai‘i volcanologist for 41 years, having earned teaching distinctions including the Board of Regents and President’s awards. He shares with us his research into remote-sensing volcanology to help determine the ages of different lava flows across the Hawaiian Islands. We also revisit the processes that caused the 2018 Kīlauea volcanic eruption which devastated homes, roads, beaches and harbors in Hawai‘i as well as several destructive Hawaiian earthquakes in the 19th and 20th century. Through his telling, we gain an extended sense of time from the formation of the Hawaiian archipelago 80+ million years ago to the present day. To learn more about Scott and download his roadside geology guidebooks go here: https://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/FACULTY/ROWLAND/

EP 13 Lani Cran Petrie on the role of ranching in Hawai’i for holistic land management

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Native Hawaiian paniolo Lani Cran Petrie manages Kapāpala Ranch founded in 1860 in Ka'u on Hawai'i Island, one of the island's largest remaining ranches where her great-grandfather was a foreman. Having studied animal nutrition at Washington State University, she has also served as the president of the Hawaiʻi Cattlemen’s Association. Lani sheds light on the ecosystem benefits and economic challenges of managing 24,000+ acres of state-leased land for cattle while keeping weeds at bay and providing trails access to the public. She speaks frankly about the negative perceptions of the cattle industry, and its role as an essential food source for the islands especially during crises.

EP 50 Kaua`i kupuna Sabra Kauka on beauty and importance of Nu`alolo Kai

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 14 Feb 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Aunty Sabra Kauka is founding member and past-president of grassroots nonprofit, Nā Pali Coast `Ōhana, dedicated to preserving natural and cultural resources of the Nā Pali Coast State Park. Her work and that of the volunteers centers around the ancient Hawaiian village, Nu`alolo Kai, once a thriving, rugged and isolated community on the north shore of Kaua`i. Sabra shares with us the wide scope of her travels and experiences across the continent to Alaska and then back home to Hawai`i where she has held anthropology and journalism positions, and taught Hawaiiana and cultural protocols for decades.

EP 37 Botanist Gerry Carr on the evolution and wonder of the Hawaiian silversword alliance

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Gerry Carr, Emeritus Professor of Botany at the University of Hawai`i at Mānoa has studied and taught the evolution of plants in the silversword alliance, a unique group of Hawaiian plants encompassing an extraordinary diversity of forms and habitats. In this episode, we talk about the importance of plant taxonomy in understanding the interrelations between seemingly disparate species and get into harrowing and fun stories of his fieldwork--from Haleakalā, Maui to Ohikilolo in the Wai`anae mountains of O`ahu. His passion for photographing the unique features of plants spans many decades and can be found here:

https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/botonl/b_online/vascular/default.htm

EP 72 Wildlife biologists Colleen and Ian Cole on making lasting alliances across diverse communities and geographies

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 13 Feb 2026 18:48:46 GMT

In this interview, Clay and Melissa talk to husband and wife biologists Colleen and Ian Cole about their respective careers as land stewards and conservation program managers. Both have been working in Hawaiʻi for 25+ years; Ian as a forester and now Wildlife Biologist for the Hawaiʻi Island’s Division of Forestry and Wildlife, and Colleen as a land manager for the Three Mountain Alliance and now as a biologist with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Colleen and Ian speak to the hard work of managing land and people which sometimes equates to small victories over time. They tell us about forging alliances between land owners, hunters, conservationists and biologists and how these experiences bring both unique challenges and lasting rewards.

EP 56 Bird biologist Justin Hite on the joys and sorrows of working with Kaua‘i’s rarest forest birds

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 01 May 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Justin Hite has worked with some of Kaua‘i’s rarest forest birds like the ʻAkekeʻe and the ‘Akikiki, down to the last individuals in the remote ʻAlakaʻi rain forests. As the former field supervisor of the Kaua‘i Forest Bird Recovery Project over a decade, he helped track and collect eggs of these incredibly rare birds for captive propagation to establish “emergency” populations in the event of their extinction in the wild. His career as a birder spans decades across multiple continents and countries to Kauai where he spent over 1,000 field nights camping in remote terrain. He talks about his field adventures and his current work on the Birds Not Mosquitos project which aims to reduce the most serious existential threat to Hawaiian honeycreepers: fatal diseases carried by mosquitoes.

EP 34 Land steward Scott Fisher on restoring and understanding the deep history of Hawaiian coastlines

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:00:00 GMT

As the Hawaiian Islands Land Trust's Director of ‘Āina Stewardship, Dr. Scott Fisher has worked for two decades to restore the coastal sand dunes and wetlands of Waihe‘e on Maui. His unusual background is that of an infantryman in Kuwait during the Gulf War where he witnessed unparalleled ecological devastation. In war torn Papua New Guinea he pursued his PhD in peace and conflict studies focused on indigenous knowledge as a means of social and environmental sustainability. He bridges local Maui communities and Hawaiian indigenous knowledge with the study of the ancient ecology of coastlines to help bring life to Waihe‘e, Nu‘u and other sacred and significant places.

EP 64 Contemporary art professor Jaimey Faris and fire scientist Clay Trauernicht on how story telling and land care can help us envision a world beyond capitalism

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 10 Oct 2025 15:00:00 GMT

In this interview, co-hosts Melissa Chimera, Clay Trauernicht and University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa art professor Dr. Jaimey Faris explore how their respective fields in art and science critically examine the social and political paradigms that separate humans from each other and the world around us. They trade perspectives on what a sustainable and a thriving future might look like for all living beings—as manifested in the present day struggles for indigenous sovereignty and liberation from Lahaina to Papua New Guinea and Palestine. Clay and Jaimey talk about their respective upbringings in New York and California amidst economic and social class disparities and how that led them to engage with the underrepresented from all over the world—from kanaka maoli in Hawaiʻi striving for access to water to Mexican women manufacturing goods—via their respective fields of fire science and art.

EP 59 Pacific Islands anthropologist Patrick Kirch on the millennia of human adaptation and environmental change across island archipelagos

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 03 Jul 2025 23:23:40 GMT

Dr. Patrick Kirch is a University of Hawai‘i at Mānoa anthropology professor specializing in historical anthropology, archaeology and the deep-time history of the peoples of the Pacific. In this interview, Melissa and Clay talk with him about how his growing up in Mānoa valley among kānaka maoli and Bishop Museum mentors influenced him early on, and how his field research has taken him from Papua New Guinea and the Solomons, to Tonga and Samoa, the Cook Islands, French Polynesia, and Hawai’i. We come to understand the adaptability of people in ancient times through transported world views, plants, animals, and diverse agricultural practices–lifeways that continue today.

EP 54 Expert hunter and Nature Conservancy field coordinator Nic Barca on fencing and hunting in Kauai`i’s most rugged and remote terrain

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 10 Apr 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Nic Barca grew up on Kaua`i and learned to hunt while in his teens. His hunting experience ranges from bow and arrow, to dog and knife hunting pigs, goats and most recently shooting black tail deer. For the past 17 years, he has worked as The Nature Conservancy’s Field Coordinator trapping and hunting animals from the far reaches of the Alaka`i plateau’s bogs to Wainiha valley. He reveals his insights into seasonal animal movements, the evolution of efficient trapping and snaring programs, and the importance of documenting invasive animals–from determining what they are eating, how often they are reproducing, and the density of animals in a particular ecosystem.

EP 53 Former Nature Conservancy Kaua`i program director Trae Menard on protecting the heart of the watershed through landscape-level fence building

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 27 Mar 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Conservationist Trae Menard has spent decades protecting Hawaiian native ecosystems, with special attention to his home island of Kaua`i for the past twenty years. As the former program director of The Nature Conservancy’s Kaua`i program, his experience is that of an ecologist who moved to Hawai`i from the east coast--first for graduate school in geography at University of Hawai`i at Mānoa, and then later as a natural resource manager. Trae tells us how Kaua`i has seen the seismic shift from opposition to fencing for conservation purposes, to support for the establishment of the Kaua`i's first Watershed Alliance. The consortia not only protects core watershed acreage through public and private partnerships, but helps reduce the threats of weeds and pigs to some of the most unique flora on the oldest island in the archipelago.

EP 47 Willy Kostka on preserving and protecting the land and sea of Pohnpei and across Micronesia

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 03 Jan 2025 15:00:00 GMT

William (Willy) Kostka is a long-time conservationist and islander who was born and raised on the island of Pohnpei, in the Federated States of Micronesia. In 1998, he helped found and became the first Board Chairman and Executive Director of the Conservation Society of Pohnpei, and then transitioned to lead the Micronesia Conservation Trust for 17 years. He has helped to bridge, fund and formulate island ecosystem stewardship and marine protected commitments from islands and countries across the nearly 7 million km2 of Pacific Ocean. Willy speaks to us about growing up in Pohnpei, as well as the traditional land tenure and agroforestry systems. He speaks to his new role in helping to promote sustainable development projects in energy and water resource care as the Director of Micronesia Regional Office of the Pacific Community.

EP 55 Special Edition: Professor of Art Jaimey Faris interviews co-host Melissa Chimera on the intersection of art and activism

Melissa Chimera — Tue, 15 Apr 2025 00:07:00 GMT

Melissa Chimera, co-host of the Land and People podcast is a Hawai‘i Triennial 2025 visual artist whose work consists of research-based investigations into species extinction, globalization and human migration. In this interview, Melissa talks with Dr. Jaimey Faris, Associate Professor of Contemporary Art and Theory at UH Mānoa on how environmental justice can be expressed through “undisciplining” or pursuing the links between art, science and ethics of deep care. They talk about how her paintings (Inheritance: Maui Nui, Not Even the Fiercest Wind, Endless Blue: Mauna Kahalawai) address endangered species, the Maui fires and the transformative potential of Chimera’s public installation “Hulihonua: Transformed Landscapes”. The installation consists of 360 deer antlers, native vegetation and flowing water at Foster Botanical Garden. Their conversation contributes to the Hawai‘i Contemporary’s Hawai‘i Triennial 2025, an international exhibition whose theme of “Aloha Nō” encompasses artworks that express solidarity, interconnectedness, care and reciprocity between people and their land.

EP 38 Ethnic studies professor Davianna McGregor on how caring for land is all of our kuleana

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 24 Aug 2024 03:48:13 GMT

Scholar and historian Dr. Davianna Pōmaika`i McGregor is a founding member of the University of Hawai`i at Mānoa's Ethnic Studies Department and a pivotal force in the Hawaiian sovereignty movement beginning in the 1970s. Now retired, she taught oral history, environmental and cultural review and assessment to many students for 49 years. She speaks to the importance of upholding basic living standards for Hawai`i's people and how her work spans countless struggles across ethnic lines--from her involvement with the Protect Kaho`olawe `Ohana which helped successfully transfer the former bombing range to indigenous stewardship by native Hawaiians to her scholarship and activism that aimed to prevent Chinatown evictions of former plantation workers on fixed incomes. She speaks to the importance of framing political struggles along class lines while at the same time promoting indigenous sovereignty and environmental protections for the benefit of all.

EP 60 Part I: Archaeologist and ethnohistorian Ross Cordy on Polynesian voyaging and ancient Hawaiian settlements

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 15 Aug 2025 16:32:11 GMT

Trained as both an archaeologist and ethnohistorian, Dr. Ross Cordy is a renowned scholar of Pacific Island Hawaiian-Pacific studies at University of Hawai‘i West O‘ahu, specializing in reconstructing the history of Hawai‘i as told from multiple data sources. Beginning with his study of the Hawaiian coastal village of Lapakahi in Kohala, his career in Oceania spans fifty+ years–from Huahini, Aotearoa, and Micronesia to the Hawai‘i State Historic Preservation Division where he undertook the challenging task of cultural site protection. In this two-part series, we first look at the voyages and settlement patterns of people across the Pacific to Hawai‘i. Dr. Cordy also addresses what is known and what is not known about long distance voyaging between Hawai‘i and elsewhere.

EP 40 Special Edition HI Conservation Conference: Water and land advocates Kapua`ala Sproat and Kekai Keahi on water as life

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 27 Sep 2024 15:00:00 GMT

In this live recording for the 2024 Hawai‘i Conservation Conference, co-hosts Melissa Chimera and Clay Trauernicht interview keynote speakers Kapuaʻala Sproat, professor of law at the William S. Richardson School of Law and Kekai Keahi, Maui Komohana community leader in the opening session “What Water Rights in West Maui Can Teach Us About Fire & Conservation." In an emotional interview for 1,400 attendees, they revisit the 2023 Maui fire catastrophes one year later, recounting historical land care battles dating back more than a century, as well as their own personal struggles, triumphs and lessons. They demonstrate how the fight for land, people and water is a responsibility we all share to make possible a thriving future for all of Hawai‘i's people. For more information about this plenary panel, click here: https://www.hawaiiconservation.org/conference/2024-keynote-name-2/

EP 18 Mark Merlin on how native Pacific Island plants, people and environments can sustain us

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 01 Sep 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Mark Merlin, University of Hawai`i at Mānoa professor in the School of Life Sciences, Botany program has taught Pacific island biocultural history across many disciplines: geography, ethnobotany and biology. His fifty years of teaching human relationships to island environments past and present as well as his field research has taken him from Hālawa Valley on Molokai in the 1970s to Pohnpei, Yap, Kosrae islands and everywhere in between. He paints the picture of Pacific Islanders' intimate relationships to sacred, medicinal plants like awa (kava) and how those Pohnpeian and Samoan ceremonies and diverse, native lifeways connect to indigenous movements today.

EP 11 Suzanne Case former Chair of the Dept. of Land & Natural Resources on the complexities of water, land and tenure

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 24 Mar 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Raised on Hawai`i Island, Suzanne Case has worked for forty years in public and private law and conservation as the executive director of The Nature Conservancy in Hawai`i and Palmyra, and most recently as Chair for the Department of Land & Natural Resources. Listen to her unique perspective as one raised in the wilds of Hawai`i Island and how her deep love of place has helped her navigate the legal conflicts, commonalities and moral complexities of natural and cultural resources stewardship, water rights, and public access.

EP 73 Pilot David Okita on the evolution of helicopters as an essential tool for conservation land management

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 26 Feb 2026 15:00:00 GMT

David Okita has flown helicopters on Hawaiʻi Island for many decades, first for emergency responders assisting with fire department search and rescues and then later for conservation organizations like The Nature Conservancy and the Department of Land and Natural Resources. David reflects on how flying for him has been a family affair, growing up on Hawaiʻi Island beginning with his dad in the 1970s, and now with his son as his assistant. He speaks to the unique relationship between helicopter pilots and the forestry and biology field crews he supports–one of mutual respect and admiration for the skills and hard work required to build fences, monitor ecosystems and conserve endangered species in the remote wilderness.

EP 75 Waikōloa Dry Forest biologists Jen Lawson and Rob Yagi on the interface between people and the rarest of the rare forests

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:16:17 GMT

In this episode, Melissa and Clay talk to Waikōloa Dry Forest Initiative executive director Jen Lawson and preserve manager Rob Yagi about their work to promote and restore one of the most endangered ecosystems in the world. Formed in 2011 to protect, promote, and restore a native Hawaiian dry forest after years of grassroots advocacy, the Waikōloa Dry Forest Preserve was established to protect many of the remaining native trees in the region. We get into Jen and Robʻs respective backgrounds in biology, how they came to Hawaiʻi through their stewardship of Pōhakuloa Training Area, and the unexpected rewards and challenges in helping to enhance the wiliwili forest that is so public facing, in the midst of fires, browsing goats and weeds.

EP 43 Part I Jermy Uowolo of Fais, Micronesia on the history, struggle and heritage of the Western Pacific atols and islands

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 08 Nov 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Part I of a two-part conversation with Jermy Uowolo, who was born and raised on the island of Fais in the State of Yap, in the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM). He received his bachelors degree from University of Hawai`i at Hilo and served as a conservationist for the Watershed Alliance in Hawai`i, the Mauna Kea Forest Restoration Project and is the President of the Micronesians United – Big Island (MU-BI) organization in Hawai`i. His knowledge spans the remote atols of his home state, to Guam, Palau, the Mariana Islands and beyond. He shares with us the prehistory and the recent immigration, military and colonial struggles in places like the Marshall Islands, and the challenge of preserving cultural practices and knowledge.

EP 45 Poet Craig Santos Perez on reclaiming and suturing Micronesian language, place and storytelling

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 06 Dec 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Craig Santos Perez is a poet, essayist, university professor, and American publisher born in Mongmong-Toto-Maite, Guam (Guåhan) Island, formally considered a U.S. territory. His literary distinctions are many. In 2023 he won the National Book Award for poetry, 2015 American Book Award and the 2011 PEN Center USA Literary Award for Poetry. He immigrated to California when he was fifteen, thus sparking his life-long exploration into what it means to be of a tropical and culturally rich place, and then separated from his CHomorro homeland. His poetry and scholarship settles into the question of identity, navigating place and also challenges many of the contemporary notions of geography and American poetry traditions. Find out more about FROM UNINCORPORATED TERRITORY [ÅMOT] here, and watch his acceptance speech and his reading of the extraordinary poem "ginen ars pasifika" here.

EP 22 Hydrologist Chris Schuler on how how we impact fresh water especially after wildfires

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 27 Oct 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Dr. Chris Schuler, a researcher with the University of Hawai`i at Mānoa’s Water Research Resources Center is a hydrologist and ground water modeler who experienced first hand the impacts of wildfire on Maui in 2023 where he and his family live. In his work which spans from American Samoa to Hawai`i, he speaks to the importance of applied environmental research serving communities directly. In his work and that of his collaborators, he helps test for potential pollutants most importantly in drinking water, which underscores how science can give agency to affected people and places experiencing incomprehensible tragedies in real time.

EP 6 Hawai`i educator Pauline Sato talks about creating a better world by learning about and loving where you live

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 14 Jan 2023 18:00:00 GMT

Pauline Sato speaks to the evolution of `āina (land)-based learning across her decades long career in environmental education with Moanalua Gardens Foundation, Bishop Museum, The Nature Conservancy, and now as the Executive Director of Mālama Learning Center. While her broad reach in introducing many generations of students and stewards to the Hawaiian outdoors is well known, few know about how she connected with nature as a child watching television or her wild times in Wailau valley on Moloka`i. Now as one of the producers of the Oceanic Cable show "Outside Hawai`i"(watch the program here or at https://www.malamalearningcenter.org/) she enters a new realm of mālama (care) outreach and audience.

EP 9 Brian Naeole on the value of hunting while keeping the native forest free from introduced animals

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Brian Naeole, former Field Coordinator with The Nature Conservancy Molokai speaks to growing up homesteading on Hawaiian homelands, hunting, farming, raising pigs, and surfing while restoring native ecosystems on his home island. He describes the hard work that goes into fencing watersheds and removing the non-native animals like pigs, goats and deer that do so much damage to Hawaiian ecosystems within those fences, while at the same time raising livestock on his homestead for food.

EP 39 'Ōlelo Hawai`i translator, artist and conservationist Hina Kneubuhl on unlocking the past as the key to the future

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 13 Sep 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Born and raised on Maui, Hina Puamohala Kneubuhl is an artist, co-founder of Kealapiko clothing, rare plant botanist, Hawaiian translator and scholar. Her knowledge base spans both conservation and the humanities, as her lineage of healers and musicians includes her great-grandmother Nana Veary and her grandmother, renowned Hawai`i singer Emma Veary. We traverse many worlds--from her work in Hawaiian language translation, her work in rare plant conservation to her recent activism against the proposed military telescopes atop Haleakalā, Maui. She connects economic and environmental sustainability for all of Hawai`i's people to the importance of indigenous sovereignty both in Hawai`i and abroad.

EP 63 Museum studies director Noelle Kahanu on repairing the human connection between land and people through the arts

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 26 Sep 2025 20:04:10 GMT

Noelle MKY Kahanu is a bridge builder across art, policy and social justice through her work as a museum curator, legal scholar, Hawaiian rights activist, and teacher. She is a University of Hawaiʻi Specialist and Interim Director for Museum Studies Graduate Certificate Program, having worked for fifteen years previously as a curator and program lead for the Bishop Museum. Noelle tells us of traversing the many worlds of art and activism, beginning in her youth with close family and friends who were involved in class struggles. In this interview, Noelle speaks to a lifetime of "heart work" that combines deep empathy, fortitude and analytical skills–from repatriating Hawaiian human remains to ethnographic and contemporary art exhibitions around radical renewal and healing among often overlooked communities.

EP 25 Wahine noho mauna: Maui land steward Kerri Fay and Moloka`i rare plant coordinator Ane Bakutis on women in the field

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 08 Dec 2023 15:00:00 GMT

In this episode, co-host Melissa Chimera brings together stories of women in the field from Kerri Fay, terrestrial program manager with The Nature Conservancy and Ane Bakutis, Moloka`i coordinator for the Plant Extinction Prevention Program. Together they share their perspectives as women working in physically demanding jobs across remote locations, managing the logistical and interpersonal complexities of people and land, while simultaneously raising children and advocating for malama `āina in their communities and respective places. They share an honest reflection on the female perspective of those in mid-career conservation, specifically the challenges and opportunities of the past twenty five years, as well as insight into what needs to happen next in terrestrial land conservation.

EP 2 Bob Hobdy, retired Maui Island District forester talks about the early days of plant discovery

Melissa Chimera — Sun, 16 Oct 2022 05:50:50 GMT

Bob Hobdy, former Department of Land and Natural Resources Maui district forester time travels back to the early days of discovering new Hawaiian plant species with renowned botanists Otto Degener and Harold Saint John-- all the way to present day.

EP 69 Park Superintendent Rhonda Loh on how seeking knowledge of the land is a mind and heart endeavor

Melissa Chimera — Tue, 23 Dec 2025 00:27:42 GMT

Dr. Rhonda Loh has over thirty years of experience at Hawai’i Volcanoes National Park, starting out as a volunteer and now in the top position as Superintendent. Rhonda explains how her graduate experiences in science (she holds both a Master’s biochemistry and a PhD in botany) were in tandem with her discovery of Hawaiian ecology and conservation. We get into careers within the National Park Service, her community challenges in fencing and removing feral ungulates, and her perpetual wonder and amazement that Kilauea volcano continues to instill in both staff and visitors.

EP 30 Hawaiian storyteller and conservationist Hannah Kihalani Springer on how land care begins with aloha for one another

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 16 Feb 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Hannah Kihalani Springer of Hawai`i Island is a storyteller, environmental activist, and scholar of Hawaiian history for many decades. As a former trustee for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs and advocate for land and sea conservation, she has headed up the nonprofit `Ahahui o Pu`u Wa`awa`a which advocates for the conservation and management of forest systems including endangered Hawaiian plants. Her perspective and that of her husband retired fire fighter Michael Tomich is one of hybridity--in their support for ranching and sheep herding in fire prone grasslands while at the same time restoring native species. She brings us the mo`olelo (place based stories) of Kaʻūpūlehu which demonstrate how we might bring a holistic and reverent relationship to `āina (land) based in aloha kekahi i kekahi (love for one another).

EP 4 Hawaiian bird biologist Sheila Conant speaks to the joys and heartache of working with the rarest of the rare

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 10 Dec 2022 19:46:29 GMT

University of Hawai`i at Mānoa professor emerita of biology and zoology Dr. Sheila Conant speaks to working with rare Hawaiian birds at a time when few women did so. While her publications, awards and distinctions are many, her lasting gift is painting the picture for all who will listen of both the beauty and fragility of Hawaiian creatures and plants. In this episode, she conveys the gravity of the situation with straight talk, but also humor, fun and passion.

EP 12 Ted Rodrigues retired Haleakalā ranger on community hunting & love of place through deep observation

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 07 Apr 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Ted Rodrigues, retired National Park Service animal control and fencing manager built some of Hawai`i's first ungulate (hoofed mammal) exclusion fences in the mid 1980s in Haleakalā National Park. He helped pioneer non-native animal removal through fencing and organized hunting aimed at limiting the damage of goats, pigs and deer in native ecosystems—programs now widely adopted throughout the state. He is the living example of an old-school park ranger versed in everything: facilities and trails maintenance, visitor education, predator and weed control and offers the natural and cultural expertise of having walked and observed all parts of Haleakalā mountain, otherwise known as Kealahele.

EP 8 Penny Rawlins Martin on the stewardship lessons that voyaging on the 1976 Hōkūle‘a sailing canoe can teach us

Melissa Chimera — Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:00:00 GMT

Penny Rawlins Martin is one of the first two kānaka maoli (Native Hawaiian) women to sail as a crew member on the first 1976 voyage of the Hōkūle‘a Hawaiian sailing canoe between Tahiti and Hawai‘i, a 2,500 mile journey of her ancestors. She takes us back to the energy of the 1970s during the Hawaiian renaissance where the language, music, dance, voyages and land-back initiatives were being fought for, revived and uplifted. Penny shares with us her many lessons aboard the canoe, namely care for one another through love of the land and concern for its limited resources--now commonly referred to as aloha ‘āina. She brings these historical, social and environmental perspectives to Moloka‘i students through her work with Papahana Kuaola, a non-profit education organization aiming to connect students to culture, place and history with an eye towards a sustainable future.

EP 49 Kaua`i firefighter and land steward Jeremie Makepa on restoring and nurturing once abandoned places

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 31 Jan 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Jeremie Makepa is a captain for the Kaua`i Fire Department for more than 2 decades in fire prevention side and as a fire fighter. His is a multi-generational Hawaiian homesteading family and most recently he serves as a land steward with the non-profit `Āina Alliance, formed in 2021. His work and that of his partners is award-winning: he’s been recognized by the Council for Native Hawaiian Advancement with an E Ola Empowering O`iwi Leadership award for his “community partnerships rehabilitating areas that have been abused and neglected" particularly in Anahola, on the north shore of his home island.

EP 52 Former Hawai`i Division of Forestry and Wildlife administrator Lisa Hadway Spain on paving new paths as a woman in conservation leadership

Melissa Chimera — Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:00:00 GMT

Lisa Hadway Spain has worked in Hawaiian native species and ecosystem conservation and education for more than three decades. She first entered the field as a zoology graduate student studying endangered land snails at University of Hawaii at Mānoa, eventually transitioning to the Department of Land and Natural Resources’ Division of Forestry and Wildlife and obtaining the top position as the division administrator overseeing statewide programs. Lisa shares with us her experiences working at the forefront of shifting paradigms in forestry as well as the controversy over critical habitat designation on private lands. Her perspective is that of a woman leadership positions–from working with the rarest dryland species on Hawai`i Island to supporting the intersection of science and Hawaiian culture at `Imiloa Astronomy Center in Hilo.

EP 46 Palauan stewardship educator Ann Singeo on connecting generations of islanders across space and time

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 20 Dec 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Ann Singeo is a founding member and Executive Director of Ebiil Society, a non-profit organization that promotes environmental education and conservation in Palau. She holds a Masters Degree in Communications for Social Change from University of Texas in El Paso which enabled her to learn from and work with subsistence communities across Micronesia. For two decades, she has helped to facilitate stewardship learning by young people in Palau in both science and traditional knowledge. Students and researchers are involved in everything from giant clam and sea cucumber restoration, dugong and turtle monitoring, fish weir restoration, marine debris removal, to working with women fishers in sustainable harvesting and traditional medicinal healers in learning Palauan customary land and marine practices.

EP 24 Ke`eaumoku Kapu of West Maui on leading people by caring for land, water and each other

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 24 Nov 2023 15:00:00 GMT

Hawaiian land and water activist Ke`eaumoku Kapu of West Maui is descended from a long line of kalo (taro) farmers and care takers of his ancestral home in Kauaula. He and his family's hard won land-back struggles and stream water repatriation in the face of powerful corporate interests serve as the backdrop of his current efforts to help his community in the aftermath and the re-build of Lāhaina town which was completely burned to the ground in August 2023. He not only speaks to the difficulties ahead and long road to recovery, but also paints a vision of Moku`ula and the thriving fishing, agricultural and historical village Lāhaina might become in the future.

EP 67 Land stewards Cheyenne Hiapo Perry and Lisa Hadway Spain on the leadership challenges of forest protection on Hawai’i Island

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 21 Nov 2025 15:00:00 GMT

In Melissa and Clay’s live recorded interview at ʻImiloa Center in Hilo, they talk with Cheyenne Hiapo Perry of the Mauna Kea Watershed Alliance and former state Forestry and Wildlife Administrator Lisa Hadway Spain about their respective leadership experiences in conservation. Each speaks to their early fascination with the marine world, while coming to the professional world of land conservation in very different ways–for Lisa, it was studying entomology at University of Hawai’i (UH) at Mānoa, while for Cheyenne he came to UH Hilo’s Tropical Conservation Biology and Environmental Studies after a military career abroad. Both Lisa and Cheyenne speak to the managerial challenges of dealing with difficult people, handling politics and marshalling stewardship resources during difficult financial downturns–and ultimately how it takes grit and determination to see things through.

EP 66 Land manager Bill Stormont on bringing aloha to the hardships and controversies in stewardship

Melissa Chimera — Fri, 07 Nov 2025 17:48:29 GMT

Bill Stormont has worked in Hawaiian land stewardship for more than forty years. Born to a multi-generational Hāmākua family and raised on Hawaiʻi Island, Bill started in high school building trails and fences beginning in 1976 through the Youth Conservation Corps. His career within the Department of Land and Natural Resources has taken him from natural areas preservation, to trails and access, and Mauna Kea stewardship. Bill gets into the controversies around feral pig removal in sensitive ecosystems, as well as managing eucalyptus stands for commercial ventures on Hawaiʻi Island, and why coming into any endeavor with heart first is always an essential approach.