<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[the deeply human design podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[Deeply Human Design is a podcast about the emotional, messy, and often unspoken realities of working in design.

Hosted by Danny, each episode is a candid conversation with fellow designers. Not polished interviews, but honest reflections on what it feels like to do this work. From impostor syndrome to burnout, from proud moments to tough rejections, we go behind the scenes of the design life.

If you're tired of the same thought leaders and crave real talk from real people, you're in the right place.]]></description><link>www.deeplyhumandesign.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 09:58:50 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/lJiFXpNV.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></author><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 06:19:44 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2025 Danny Hearn]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Design]]></category><category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category><itunes:author>Danny Hearn</itunes:author><itunes:summary>Deeply Human Design is a podcast about the emotional, messy, and often unspoken realities of working in design.

Hosted by Danny, each episode is a candid conversation with fellow designers. Not polished interviews, but honest reflections on what it feels like to do this work. From impostor syndrome to burnout, from proud moments to tough rejections, we go behind the scenes of the design life.

If you&apos;re tired of the same thought leaders and crave real talk from real people, you&apos;re in the right place.</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Danny Hearn</itunes:name><itunes:email>info@dannyhearn.me</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Arts"><itunes:category text="Design"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Technology"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/logos/ada73cf4-a194-466e-a2b9-6e0bfce3677b.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[#20 You can't out-think uncertainty: Resilience in the age  of AI | Stuart Booth]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>"People massively overestimate the amount of change that's going to happen in two years, and they underestimate the amount in five to 10 years."<br /></p><p>Summary</p><p>In this episode, we explore the journey of Stuart, a psychologist who moved from cognitive research into digital transformation and is now working in government. We trace his path from the back streets of Liverpool to a PhD in human computer interaction, augmented reality research in Italy, and six years in research and design leadership at Expedia. Stuart reflects on social mobility, on the confidence and experience it buys as much as the income, and on leaving school in a year when not one of the jobs he has since done actually existed. We discuss why organisations resist AI, where he honestly lands between its promise and its threat, and the psychology of resilience when uncertainty simply cannot be researched away. This conversation is a deep dive into staying proactive rather than passive, experimenting deliberately, and treating your own career as a product you can design.</p><p><br />Guest<br />Stuart Booth - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-booth-05b12a2/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></p><p><br />Host<br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a> <br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">http://www.dannyhearn.me</a> <br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Getting to Know Each Other</p><p>01:12 Journey into Design</p><p>02:48 Personal Background and Privilege</p><p>04:18 University Experience and Social Mobility</p><p>05:02 Social Class and Education</p><p>06:26 Exclusionary Language and Corporate Spaces</p><p>09:33 Career Advice and Opportunities</p><p>10:01 Evolution of Job Roles</p><p>13:20 Identity and Role Definitions</p><p>15:22 Experience and Decision Making</p><p>17:14 Emotional Journey of Craftsmanship</p><p>19:14 Anxiety and Resilience</p><p>20:38 Dealing with Uncertainty</p><p>22:49 Strategies for Daily Practice</p><p>23:38 Embracing Change and Uncertainty</p><p>25:55 Organizational Response to AI</p><p>28:09 Personal Views on AI and Technology</p><p>30:11 Creating and Building Apps</p><p>33:20 The Future of App Development and AI</p><p>36:48 Impact of Technology on Employment and Life</p><p>41:08 Resilience and Facing Uncertainty</p><p>44:21 Applying Lean UX Canvas to Personal Development</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">15ea2f84-5167-46d5-8ac3-ebdff2032b2f</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 19:56:05 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/934c31b6395c5d03656fb150102ca2d5ce167bbee4b839c762c5d282d07bfefa/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxNWVhMmY4NC01MTY3LTQ2ZDUtOGFjMy1lYmRmZjIwMzJiMmYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFhNDFlNGE0NzhjNjMzNGJkNzdhYWNlL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtMjAyNi05LTExX18xOS01Ni04Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="92609872" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/15ea2f84-5167-46d5-8ac3-ebdff2032b2f/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&quot;People massively overestimate the amount of change that&apos;s going to happen in two years, and they underestimate the amount in five to 10 years.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Summary&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we explore the journey of Stuart, a psychologist who moved from cognitive research into digital transformation and is now working in government. We trace his path from the back streets of Liverpool to a PhD in human computer interaction, augmented reality research in Italy, and six years in research and design leadership at Expedia. Stuart reflects on social mobility, on the confidence and experience it buys as much as the income, and on leaving school in a year when not one of the jobs he has since done actually existed. We discuss why organisations resist AI, where he honestly lands between its promise and its threat, and the psychology of resilience when uncertainty simply cannot be researched away. This conversation is a deep dive into staying proactive rather than passive, experimenting deliberately, and treating your own career as a product you can design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Guest&lt;br /&gt;Stuart Booth - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-booth-05b12a2/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Host&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Getting to Know Each Other&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:12 Journey into Design&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;02:48 Personal Background and Privilege&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;04:18 University Experience and Social Mobility&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:02 Social Class and Education&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;06:26 Exclusionary Language and Corporate Spaces&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;09:33 Career Advice and Opportunities&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:01 Evolution of Job Roles&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;13:20 Identity and Role Definitions&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;15:22 Experience and Decision Making&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;17:14 Emotional Journey of Craftsmanship&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;19:14 Anxiety and Resilience&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20:38 Dealing with Uncertainty&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;22:49 Strategies for Daily Practice&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:38 Embracing Change and Uncertainty&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;25:55 Organizational Response to AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;28:09 Personal Views on AI and Technology&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:11 Creating and Building Apps&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;33:20 The Future of App Development and AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;36:48 Impact of Technology on Employment and Life&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;41:08 Resilience and Facing Uncertainty&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;44:21 Applying Lean UX Canvas to Personal Development&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:48:14</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/15ea2f84-5167-46d5-8ac3-ebdff2032b2f/images/3ef845e4-1113-4c18-a19c-937ccbfb84ed.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#20 You can&apos;t out-think uncertainty: Resilience in the age  of AI | Stuart Booth</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#19 Navigating Tech Burnout, AI Anxiety | Andy Hix]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>"The pressure to move faster in the tech industry creates an environment where presence and mental well-being are often sacrificed for speed.”</p><p></p><p>Summary</p><p>In this episode, leadership consultant Andy Hix joins us to share insights from his interviews with 85 tech leaders on the pressures they face, what keeps them up at night, and what separates those thriving in 2026 from those burning out.</p><p></p><p>Together, we unpack the intersection of tech, mental health, and well being, tackling everything from AI addiction and early adopter anxiety to how human centered leadership can bring joy back into the corporate workplace.</p><p></p><p><b>Guest</b></p><p>Andy Hix</p><p>Web - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://andyhix.com/" target="_blank">https://andyhix.com/</a></p><p>LinkedIN - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyhix/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyhix/</a></p><p></p><p><b>Host</b></p><p>Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a></p><p>Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">http://www.dannyhearn.me</a></p><p>Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Introduction and Background</p><p>01:17 The Impact of Tech on Mental Health</p><p>04:07 Discovering Meditation and Well-being</p><p>08:16 Leadership and Presence in Tech</p><p>10:56 Challenges of Being Present in a Corporate Environment</p><p>16:00 The Struggle of Overwhelm and Stress in Tech</p><p>23:06 Implementing Well-being Practices in Corporate Settings</p><p>26:10 The Pressure to Move Faster</p><p>27:02 The Anxiety of Being an Early Adopter</p><p>28:00 The Addictive Quality of AI</p><p>29:14 The Impact on Mental Health</p><p>34:35 The Human Side of Tech Leadership</p><p>44:07 The Influence of Leadership on Culture</p><p>49:22 The Absence of Joy in Work</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">422a2e9b-e1fa-4e65-b554-2911909688f3</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2026 15:10:21 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/30356ffbb05a65074ad56b8d4fa82aced69a8dec2aaebc5290ec2f1a81c11b33/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0MjJhMmU5Yi1lMWZhLTRlNjUtYjU1NC0yOTExOTA5Njg4ZjMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE5MDI4MTcxNGMyMDQ5MjZlYTFiMzYwL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXIubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="100445770" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/422a2e9b-e1fa-4e65-b554-2911909688f3/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&quot;The pressure to move faster in the tech industry creates an environment where presence and mental well-being are often sacrificed for speed.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Summary&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, leadership consultant Andy Hix joins us to share insights from his interviews with 85 tech leaders on the pressures they face, what keeps them up at night, and what separates those thriving in 2026 from those burning out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Together, we unpack the intersection of tech, mental health, and well being, tackling everything from AI addiction and early adopter anxiety to how human centered leadership can bring joy back into the corporate workplace.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Andy Hix&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Web - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://andyhix.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://andyhix.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIN - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyhix/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyhix/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Introduction and Background&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:17 The Impact of Tech on Mental Health&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;04:07 Discovering Meditation and Well-being&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;08:16 Leadership and Presence in Tech&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:56 Challenges of Being Present in a Corporate Environment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;16:00 The Struggle of Overwhelm and Stress in Tech&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:06 Implementing Well-being Practices in Corporate Settings&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;26:10 The Pressure to Move Faster&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;27:02 The Anxiety of Being an Early Adopter&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;28:00 The Addictive Quality of AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;29:14 The Impact on Mental Health&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;34:35 The Human Side of Tech Leadership&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;44:07 The Influence of Leadership on Culture&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;49:22 The Absence of Joy in Work&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:52:19</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/422a2e9b-e1fa-4e65-b554-2911909688f3/images/65e6af3a-412c-4ccf-a826-fd55aa731461.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#19 Navigating Tech Burnout, AI Anxiety | Andy Hix</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#18 Reclaiming the heart in design | Fionn Tynan O'Mahony]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Reclaiming the Heart in Design</p><p>“There’s so much heart in some of these things that you’re putting in heart in that space and I find it very hard to detach some of those.”</p><p></p><p>Summary </p><p>In this episode, we explore the creative journey of Fionn, a partner at the design futures studio Andthen . We trace his evolution from the tactile world of furniture making to leading large-scale design teams within the corporate banking sector . Fionn reflects on the emotional friction of maintaining personal values in transactional environments and the toll of multiple burnouts. We discuss his shift toward "slow decisions" and how design can be used to influence long-term policy and societal change . This conversation is a deep dive into reclaiming professional purpose and the human heart within a technical industry .</p><p></p><p>Guest</p><p>Fionn Tynan O'Mahony</p><p>LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionntynan/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionntynan/</a></p><p>Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.studioandthen.com/" target="_blank">https://www.studioandthen.com/</a></p><p></p><p>Host</p><p>Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a></p><p>Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a></p><p>Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Reconnecting and the Purpose of Human Conversations</p><p>02:08 Designing the Intangible: Introducing Andthen</p><p>05:05 From DIY to Craft College: Early Practical Creativity</p><p>06:50 The Modernist Influence and the Limits of the Ego</p><p>08:32 Refocusing Life and the Discovery of Curiosity</p><p>11:49 Design as Intervention: Breaking the Routine</p><p>14:58 Reality Hits: Transitioning into Corporate Banking</p><p>16:54 The Shift from Questions to Answers</p><p>19:18 Techno-Optimism and the Moonshot Era</p><p>21:57 The Cost of Delivery Culture and Shrinking Experimentation</p><p>24:42 Navigating Burnout and Value Misalignment</p><p>29:50 The Struggle of Scaling Teams in Risk-Averse Systems</p><p>34:41 The Gift of Voluntary Redundancy</p><p>38:44 Returning to Exploration and Strategic Influencing</p><p>43:49 Pace Layering: Designing for Long-Term Impact</p><p>50:40 Redefining Success Beyond the Bottom Line</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">c7f260ad-2dd7-4e8b-b2c9-9183562c7e5f</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 19:43:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/95d1c6656745c70eb8c49da4c67b616344390ab03034fec1becb92cde46a8f87/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJjN2YyNjBhZC0yZGQ3LTRlOGItYjJjOS05MTgzNTYyYzdlNWYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllZmM2YzY1MjU3MjkyZmVmMGNhODIyL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi00LTI3X18yMi0yNy01MC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="99094926" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/c7f260ad-2dd7-4e8b-b2c9-9183562c7e5f/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Reclaiming the Heart in Design&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;“There’s so much heart in some of these things that you’re putting in heart in that space and I find it very hard to detach some of those.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Summary &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we explore the creative journey of Fionn, a partner at the design futures studio Andthen . We trace his evolution from the tactile world of furniture making to leading large-scale design teams within the corporate banking sector . Fionn reflects on the emotional friction of maintaining personal values in transactional environments and the toll of multiple burnouts. We discuss his shift toward &quot;slow decisions&quot; and how design can be used to influence long-term policy and societal change . This conversation is a deep dive into reclaiming professional purpose and the human heart within a technical industry .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Guest&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fionn Tynan O&apos;Mahony&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionntynan/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/fionntynan/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.studioandthen.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.studioandthen.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Host&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Reconnecting and the Purpose of Human Conversations&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;02:08 Designing the Intangible: Introducing Andthen&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:05 From DIY to Craft College: Early Practical Creativity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;06:50 The Modernist Influence and the Limits of the Ego&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;08:32 Refocusing Life and the Discovery of Curiosity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;11:49 Design as Intervention: Breaking the Routine&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;14:58 Reality Hits: Transitioning into Corporate Banking&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;16:54 The Shift from Questions to Answers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;19:18 Techno-Optimism and the Moonshot Era&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;21:57 The Cost of Delivery Culture and Shrinking Experimentation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;24:42 Navigating Burnout and Value Misalignment&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;29:50 The Struggle of Scaling Teams in Risk-Averse Systems&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;34:41 The Gift of Voluntary Redundancy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;38:44 Returning to Exploration and Strategic Influencing&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;43:49 Pace Layering: Designing for Long-Term Impact&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;50:40 Redefining Success Beyond the Bottom Line&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:51:37</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/c7f260ad-2dd7-4e8b-b2c9-9183562c7e5f/images/9fa8d8e9-ccb4-4cd7-8b75-888bc030d5b9.png"/><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#18 Reclaiming the heart in design | Fionn Tynan O&apos;Mahony</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#17 Be a kind designer | Craig Jamieson]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“Sometimes the best thing you can do is just be the kindest person in the room.”<br /></p><p>Summary<br />In this episode, we explore the profound impact of leading with kindness and humility in the high-pressure world of design and advertising. Guest Craig Jamson joins Danny Hearn to reflect on his journey from a self-taught Flash designer in South Africa to a Creative Director at Ogilvy. They discuss the transition from a "brutal" leadership style to one focused on empowering others, drawing inspiration from the book Multipliers. The conversation dives deep into the importance of maintaining calm in "crisis mode," the challenges of the current job market, and how personal mental health practices shape professional presence. Together, they advocate for a more supportive industry culture where seasoned professionals lift up those who are most vulnerable.</p><p><br />Guest<br />Craig Jamieson <br />LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-jamieson/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-jamieson/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://craigjamieson.com/" target="_blank">https://craigjamieson.com/</a></p><p></p><p>Host<br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a> Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a> <br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p></p><p>Chapters <br />00:00 The Power of Humility and Kindness</p><p>01:10 Journey from Art School Dropout to Digital Design</p><p>05:03 From Dictator to Genius Maker: The Multipliers Shift</p><p>08:51 Avoiding the Expert Jargon Trap</p><p>14:04 The Quiet Confidence of Seasoned Creative Directors</p><p>17:36 The Fadeaway Technique in Consultancy</p><p>26:13 Perceptions vs Reality: The Scary Guy Persona</p><p>35:40 Moving Beyond the Self and Stressful Perspectives</p><p>42:25 Presence, Calm, and the Figmification of Design</p><p>53:03 Practical Ways to Support the Design Community</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">4877c11d-cf4f-4f93-8a71-69082a837e84</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2026 09:28:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b95b0107ebab482e1561ffcd35464219d1a51738636b27a98dcede046eefc89d/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0ODc3YzExZC1jZjRmLTRmOTMtOGE3MS02OTA4MmE4MzdlODQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlhZDNkYmQ5Njg4MDIzZjViYWI3NTAxL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi0zLThfXzEwLTEzLTMzLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="90297512" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/4877c11d-cf4f-4f93-8a71-69082a837e84/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“Sometimes the best thing you can do is just be the kindest person in the room.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Summary&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, we explore the profound impact of leading with kindness and humility in the high-pressure world of design and advertising. Guest Craig Jamson joins Danny Hearn to reflect on his journey from a self-taught Flash designer in South Africa to a Creative Director at Ogilvy. They discuss the transition from a &quot;brutal&quot; leadership style to one focused on empowering others, drawing inspiration from the book Multipliers. The conversation dives deep into the importance of maintaining calm in &quot;crisis mode,&quot; the challenges of the current job market, and how personal mental health practices shape professional presence. Together, they advocate for a more supportive industry culture where seasoned professionals lift up those who are most vulnerable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Guest&lt;br /&gt;Craig Jamieson &lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-jamieson/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/craig-jamieson/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://craigjamieson.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://craigjamieson.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Host&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt; Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters &lt;br /&gt;00:00 The Power of Humility and Kindness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:10 Journey from Art School Dropout to Digital Design&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:03 From Dictator to Genius Maker: The Multipliers Shift&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;08:51 Avoiding the Expert Jargon Trap&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;14:04 The Quiet Confidence of Seasoned Creative Directors&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;17:36 The Fadeaway Technique in Consultancy&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;26:13 Perceptions vs Reality: The Scary Guy Persona&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;35:40 Moving Beyond the Self and Stressful Perspectives&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;42:25 Presence, Calm, and the Figmification of Design&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;53:03 Practical Ways to Support the Design Community&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:02:42</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/4877c11d-cf4f-4f93-8a71-69082a837e84/images/537b1a16-104e-4f2d-add1-0bbcdd92cb80.png"/><itunes:title>#17 Be a kind designer | Craig Jamieson</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#16 Innovation is messy: Navigating chaos & resilience | Sienne Veit]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“There are many, many things that AI can do, AI cannot dream, it cannot truly create, and it cannot think. And I just think the random messiness of the human spirit is just so perfect for creativity.”</p><h3>Summary</h3><p>In this episode, we dive into the career of Sienne Veit, a leader who has consistently operated at the "pointy end" of innovation. We explore her journey from studying linguistics and journalism in South Africa to spearheading the first transactional mobile website for Marks &amp; Spencer during the dawn of the iPhone era. Throughout our conversation, we discuss the art of navigating corporate "no’s" by building resilient teams and maintaining an experimental mindset. We reflect on the importance of serendipity in the workplace and why "human messiness" remains our greatest advantage in an AI-driven future. Together, we uncover how a high tolerance for chaos and a commitment to solving real-world problems can transform enterprise design.</p><h3>Guest</h3><p>Sienne Veit</p><p>LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sienneveit/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/sienneveit/</a></p><h3>Host</h3><p>Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a></p><p>Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a></p><p>Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><h3>Chapters</h3><p>00:00 The Human Spirit vs. AI</p><p>01:29 From Lecturer to Product Leader: A Weavy Journey</p><p>04:19 Linguistics: The Foundation of Meaning and HCI</p><p>07:43 Early Mobile Adoption: From WAP to South African Banking</p><p>10:49 Sony and the Cusp of the iPhone Revolution</p><p>12:12 Building M&amp;S’s First Mobile Transactional Site</p><p>15:01 Early Failures: QR Codes and Text-Based Loyalty</p><p>17:25 Abandoning Wireframes for Pure Design</p><p>20:36 Loving the Unknown and Multi-disciplinary Teams</p><p>23:47 The "Shit Umbrella": Protecting Team Creativity</p><p>29:29 High Tolerance for Chaos and the Capacity to Reset</p><p>34:59 Breaking Down Certainty for Stakeholders</p><p>41:56 Diversity in Tech: From "Only Woman in the Room" to STEM</p><p>44:33 Remote vs. Relational Culture: Cracking the Team Bond</p><p>47:53 Meeting Barack Obama in Sao Paulo</p><p>51:45 The Future of the Craft: Why AI Can't Dream</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bd9d5937-c433-4b09-9ef8-28edab9cd82b</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2026 15:25:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7ebc7edf0c1ab09930599bf91e034cbf6c33c5fdd746fae55ec301a6a47702bf/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiZDlkNTkzNy1jNDMzLTRiMDktOWVmOC0yOGVkYWI5Y2Q4MmIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk4ODk3NTNhNTZmZWM4NWU3OTg4NDZjL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi0yLThfXzE1LTEtNTQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="81352977" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“There are many, many things that AI can do, AI cannot dream, it cannot truly create, and it cannot think. And I just think the random messiness of the human spirit is just so perfect for creativity.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Summary&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we dive into the career of Sienne Veit, a leader who has consistently operated at the &quot;pointy end&quot; of innovation. We explore her journey from studying linguistics and journalism in South Africa to spearheading the first transactional mobile website for Marks &amp;amp; Spencer during the dawn of the iPhone era. Throughout our conversation, we discuss the art of navigating corporate &quot;no’s&quot; by building resilient teams and maintaining an experimental mindset. We reflect on the importance of serendipity in the workplace and why &quot;human messiness&quot; remains our greatest advantage in an AI-driven future. Together, we uncover how a high tolerance for chaos and a commitment to solving real-world problems can transform enterprise design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Guest&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sienne Veit&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/sienneveit/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/sienneveit/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Host&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Chapters&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 The Human Spirit vs. AI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:29 From Lecturer to Product Leader: A Weavy Journey&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;04:19 Linguistics: The Foundation of Meaning and HCI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;07:43 Early Mobile Adoption: From WAP to South African Banking&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:49 Sony and the Cusp of the iPhone Revolution&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:12 Building M&amp;amp;S’s First Mobile Transactional Site&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;15:01 Early Failures: QR Codes and Text-Based Loyalty&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;17:25 Abandoning Wireframes for Pure Design&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20:36 Loving the Unknown and Multi-disciplinary Teams&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:47 The &quot;Shit Umbrella&quot;: Protecting Team Creativity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;29:29 High Tolerance for Chaos and the Capacity to Reset&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;34:59 Breaking Down Certainty for Stakeholders&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;41:56 Diversity in Tech: From &quot;Only Woman in the Room&quot; to STEM&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;44:33 Remote vs. Relational Culture: Cracking the Team Bond&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;47:53 Meeting Barack Obama in Sao Paulo&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;51:45 The Future of the Craft: Why AI Can&apos;t Dream&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:56:30</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/bd9d5937-c433-4b09-9ef8-28edab9cd82b/images/5d63b8ce-6292-4741-bdd5-4c1128ebd8d4.png"/><itunes:title>#16 Innovation is messy: Navigating chaos &amp; resilience | Sienne Veit</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#15 Trauma, relationships & social health in design | Alla Weinberg]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“The quality of our relationships is the only factor linked to how long we live — and how well we live.”<br /></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this episode, Alla Weinberg and I explore psychological safety, workplace culture, and why the quality of our relationships shapes not just how we work, but how we live. Alla shares her 20-year journey through the design industry — from information architecture to coaching — and the lived experiences that led her to write <i>A Culture of Safety</i>. We talk about toxic and “too nice” cultures, the pressure to “crank out” design, how unsafe environments shut down our ability to think, and what leaders can do to model honesty with kindness. We also look ahead to the AI era and why Alla is building a social health organization to help people rebuild connection, community, and human-centered ways of working.<br /></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Alla Weinberg<br />Website - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thisisharmonic.com/" target="_blank">https://thisisharmonic.com/</a></p><p>Fourpercent - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.fourpercent.org/" target="_blank">https://www.fourpercent.org/</a></p><p>LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/allaweinberg/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/allaweinberg/</a></p><p><br /><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Social health, relationships, and what the research suggests<br />00:40 Alla’s journey through design — and why she turned to coaching<br />04:35 Lived experiences of unsafe culture and “crank it out” design pressure<br />09:20 What toxic work really communicates about people vs. profit<br />12:34 Hope vs. reality: why design evangelism rarely shifts power<br />15:14 Building a social health organisation and what it’s for<br />20:16 What healthy relational culture looks like (skills, repair, honesty)<br />22:52 Transactional vs. relational culture — especially in remote work<br />34:53 Mental health, trauma, and how unsafe leadership shuts us down<br />47:03 AI, the erosion of humanity, and choosing a different future</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">568fc02e-861c-4b49-9ee1-cb99a76de747</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 14:14:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/602f17a049e0b318be2566488cfb1671b7471586367155c9d05b8672d67b85ec/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1NjhmYzAyZS04NjFjLTRiNDktOWVlMS1jYjk5YTc2ZGU3NDciLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk1ZTY4MGIwYmNmZTQ3ZDNmMjdhN2Q3L2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi0xLTdfXzE1LTQtNTkubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="29404884" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“The quality of our relationships is the only factor linked to how long we live — and how well we live.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, Alla Weinberg and I explore psychological safety, workplace culture, and why the quality of our relationships shapes not just how we work, but how we live. Alla shares her 20-year journey through the design industry — from information architecture to coaching — and the lived experiences that led her to write &lt;i&gt;A Culture of Safety&lt;/i&gt;. We talk about toxic and “too nice” cultures, the pressure to “crank out” design, how unsafe environments shut down our ability to think, and what leaders can do to model honesty with kindness. We also look ahead to the AI era and why Alla is building a social health organization to help people rebuild connection, community, and human-centered ways of working.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Alla Weinberg&lt;br /&gt;Website - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://thisisharmonic.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://thisisharmonic.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fourpercent - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.fourpercent.org/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.fourpercent.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/allaweinberg/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/allaweinberg/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Social health, relationships, and what the research suggests&lt;br /&gt;00:40 Alla’s journey through design — and why she turned to coaching&lt;br /&gt;04:35 Lived experiences of unsafe culture and “crank it out” design pressure&lt;br /&gt;09:20 What toxic work really communicates about people vs. profit&lt;br /&gt;12:34 Hope vs. reality: why design evangelism rarely shifts power&lt;br /&gt;15:14 Building a social health organisation and what it’s for&lt;br /&gt;20:16 What healthy relational culture looks like (skills, repair, honesty)&lt;br /&gt;22:52 Transactional vs. relational culture — especially in remote work&lt;br /&gt;34:53 Mental health, trauma, and how unsafe leadership shuts us down&lt;br /&gt;47:03 AI, the erosion of humanity, and choosing a different future&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:49:40</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/568fc02e-861c-4b49-9ee1-cb99a76de747/images/6af3a24a-fc0f-499d-ad4a-2e6a19f9e0d0.png"/><itunes:title>#15 Trauma, relationships &amp; social health in design | Alla Weinberg</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#14 Design, craft and optimism for 
changing times | James Box]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“What would it take for design to have its vinyl moment — and reclaim its power beyond JIRA tickets and design systems?”</p><p></p><p><b>Summary</b></p><p>In this episode, Danny sits down with James Box, designer, author, and co-founder of Berst - to talk about the changing shape of design careers, the realities of agency vs. product team life, and why so many designers feel trapped in “mechanistic” delivery work. James reflects on his years at ClearLeft, the culture of autonomy and learning that shaped his practice, and the role of communication and uncertainty in good design. They explore Berst’s work with startups and scale-ups, including experiments with equity-based engagements, and discuss how innovation can get dampened as companies grow. The conversation turns to AI: how it’s collapsing the gap between insight and delivery, what “AI-native” products feel like, and why designers need to hold both optimism and skepticism at once. James closes with a hopeful challenge, for designers to embrace entrepreneurship, use new tools to tackle bigger problems, and help design rediscover what it’s uniquely good at.</p><p></p><p><b>Guest</b></p><p>James Box</p><p>Berst - https://ber.st/</p><p>LinkedIN – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesbox/</p><p>Website - https://jamesbox.me/</p><p></p><p><b>Host</b></p><p>Danny Hearn</p><p>LinkedIN – https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</p><p>Website – www.dannyhearn.me</p><p>Podcast – www.deeplyhumandesign.com</p><p></p><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00 Design careers, JIRA tickets, and the fear of “factory design”</p><p>01:21 James Box’s journey: agency roots, entrepreneurship, and writing a UX book</p><p>03:52 T-shaped designers and the overlooked skill of defining the real problem</p><p>06:36 What consulting forces you to learn: adaptability + communication</p><p>08:14 Divergence vs. convergence in modern product teams</p><p>09:18 Why the agency path is disappearing — and what that means for new designers</p><p>10:18 What made ClearLeft distinctive: UX, community, events, and products</p><p>13:18 Pace, autonomy, and the “jet engine” feel of agency work</p><p>14:38 Intimidation, improvisation, and learning culture in early ClearLeft days</p><p>16:14 Anxiety and uncertainty as part of the designer’s job</p><p>21:46 A remembered moment: finding rhythm, flow, and ownership in delivery</p><p>23:59 The “black hat” approach: leaning into fears to surface truths and mitigate risk</p><p>26:57 Scale-ups and the loss of innovation energy as teams operationalise</p><p>30:07 Why “the job isn’t done” after product-market fit</p><p>32:14 Equity work with startups: incentives, “skin in the game,” and the reality check</p><p>35:58 Why the VC-style equity model doesn’t easily work for studios long-term</p><p>38:31 Keeping work close to founders and C-suite to protect impact</p><p>39:41 Optimism as a designer’s grounding belief — and how it differs from naïveté</p><p>44:09 AI as unprecedented tech: holding risks and benefits at once</p><p>47:09 Danny’s dual view: macro anxiety, micro empowerment, and moving fast with agents</p><p>51:38 “AI-native” experiences and the stages from tool → assistant → peer</p><p>56:39 Copilot Studio, enterprise adoption, and the coming wave of internal agents</p><p>1:00:50 Why problem framing still matters most, even as delivery speed collapses</p><p>1:02:39 James’s concern: shrinking design impact — and the “vinyl moment” hope</p><p>1:06:03 Designing for entrepreneurship, invention, and meaningful progress</p><p>1:07:02 Closing: Merry Christmas and the future of design</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e9ed0115-7714-4558-a41e-16d8ad32626d</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2025 15:39:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/d7404d5c52523a96a4a9901831f762a0649f258a1b3f3c9db5746694fa6364f9/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlOWVkMDExNS03NzE0LTQ1NTgtYTQxZS0xNmQ4YWQzMjYyNmQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk0ZWE4NDIwYjE3YjEzNWFmN2ZkZTZiL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS0xMi0yNl9fMTYtMjItNDIubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="45018132" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“What would it take for design to have its vinyl moment — and reclaim its power beyond JIRA tickets and design systems?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Danny sits down with James Box, designer, author, and co-founder of Berst - to talk about the changing shape of design careers, the realities of agency vs. product team life, and why so many designers feel trapped in “mechanistic” delivery work. James reflects on his years at ClearLeft, the culture of autonomy and learning that shaped his practice, and the role of communication and uncertainty in good design. They explore Berst’s work with startups and scale-ups, including experiments with equity-based engagements, and discuss how innovation can get dampened as companies grow. The conversation turns to AI: how it’s collapsing the gap between insight and delivery, what “AI-native” products feel like, and why designers need to hold both optimism and skepticism at once. James closes with a hopeful challenge, for designers to embrace entrepreneurship, use new tools to tackle bigger problems, and help design rediscover what it’s uniquely good at.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;James Box&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Berst - https://ber.st/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIN – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesbox/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website - https://jamesbox.me/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danny Hearn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIN – https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website – www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Podcast – www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Design careers, JIRA tickets, and the fear of “factory design”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;01:21 James Box’s journey: agency roots, entrepreneurship, and writing a UX book&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;03:52 T-shaped designers and the overlooked skill of defining the real problem&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;06:36 What consulting forces you to learn: adaptability + communication&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;08:14 Divergence vs. convergence in modern product teams&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;09:18 Why the agency path is disappearing — and what that means for new designers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:18 What made ClearLeft distinctive: UX, community, events, and products&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;13:18 Pace, autonomy, and the “jet engine” feel of agency work&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;14:38 Intimidation, improvisation, and learning culture in early ClearLeft days&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;16:14 Anxiety and uncertainty as part of the designer’s job&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;21:46 A remembered moment: finding rhythm, flow, and ownership in delivery&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;23:59 The “black hat” approach: leaning into fears to surface truths and mitigate risk&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;26:57 Scale-ups and the loss of innovation energy as teams operationalise&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:07 Why “the job isn’t done” after product-market fit&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;32:14 Equity work with startups: incentives, “skin in the game,” and the reality check&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;35:58 Why the VC-style equity model doesn’t easily work for studios long-term&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;38:31 Keeping work close to founders and C-suite to protect impact&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;39:41 Optimism as a designer’s grounding belief — and how it differs from naïveté&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;44:09 AI as unprecedented tech: holding risks and benefits at once&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;47:09 Danny’s dual view: macro anxiety, micro empowerment, and moving fast with agents&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;51:38 “AI-native” experiences and the stages from tool → assistant → peer&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;56:39 Copilot Studio, enterprise adoption, and the coming wave of internal agents&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:00:50 Why problem framing still matters most, even as delivery speed collapses&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:02:39 James’s concern: shrinking design impact — and the “vinyl moment” hope&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:06:03 Designing for entrepreneurship, invention, and meaningful progress&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:07:02 Closing: Merry Christmas and the future of design&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:07:33</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/e9ed0115-7714-4558-a41e-16d8ad32626d/images/25330fbe-1508-4c6d-a84d-58930d78d743.png"/><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#14 Design, craft and optimism for 
changing times | James Box</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#13 Peak designer, AI, uncertainty and what’s next | Andy Budd]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>"<i>As soon as tools exist that don’t require Figma’s learning curve, a very large number of designers will find themselves out of work</i>"</p><p><br /><b>Summary</b><br />Today I’m sharing a wide-open, deeply honest conversation with Andy Budd — designer, founder, conference creator, coach, investor, and one of the most quietly influential forces behind the UK design and product community. If you’ve worked in UX anytime in the last two decades, you’ve almost certainly felt Andy’s impact: Clearleft, UX London, dConstruct, Leading Design, CSS Mastery, the Brighton Digital Festival… the list is long for a reason.</p><p>In this episode, we dig into the questions so many designers are quietly wrestling with; Have we already passed “peak designer”? And what does a meaningful, sustainable design career look like on the other side?</p><p></p><p>We explore why 2020–21 marked the high-water point for UX hiring, how AI and automation are reshaping the work, and why “Figma operator culture” was always a dead end. Andy maps the design chaos from identity crisis many designers are feeling, the discomfort of reinvention, and why embracing uncertainty is now a core skill. We also journey through his experiences with the early web, Clearleft, building communities, leadership — and the ongoing search for new personal S-curves.<br /></p><p>If you’re feeling energised, anxious, confused, optimistic (or all of the above) about where design is heading, this one will resonate deeply.</p><p><br /><b>Guest</b><br />Andy Budd<br />LinkedIn –<a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andybudd/" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/andybudd/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://andybudd.com/" target="_blank">https://andybudd.com/</a><br />Book – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://andybudd.com/book" target="_blank">https://andybudd.com/book</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://seedcamp.com/" target="_blank">https://seedcamp.com/</a></p><p></p><p><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Have We Reached “Peak Designer”? The Hiring Boom and Slowdown<br />01:08 Introducing Andy — Designer, Founder, Investor, Pilot, Diver, “Shark Wrangler”<br />01:42 Origin Story — Geeky Kid, Early Web, and Falling in Love with the Internet<br />04:35 From Dive Instructor in Asia to Self-Taught Web Designer<br />07:26 Discovering UX and Helping Bring User Experience Design to the UK<br />10:34 Meeting Rich and Jeremy, Web Standards, and the Birth of Clearleft<br />18:43 Inside Clearleft — Culture, Community, and a Different Way to Run an Agency<br />22:15 Burberry, “Hyper-Alignment,” and How Clearleft Actually Worked Day to Day<br />32:24 UX London, Leading Design, and the “Accidental Design Leader”<br />47:16 Broken Web, AI, the Future of Design — S-Curves, Uncertainty, and Learning to Flow</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">f9705313-cf24-4be6-b26d-bedefe6aba6b</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 09:27:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/a2cb6b939a6bdae6747266ee8dcd2b7682ed19780bf724484cf7a01265ed8324/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJmOTcwNTMxMy1jZjI0LTRiZTYtYjI2ZC1iZWRlZmU2YWJhNmIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkyZTAxYzY4NGExN2I4OThmMTQwOWRiL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS0xMi0xX18yMS01OS01MC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="45990753" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&quot;&lt;i&gt;As soon as tools exist that don’t require Figma’s learning curve, a very large number of designers will find themselves out of work&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today I’m sharing a wide-open, deeply honest conversation with Andy Budd — designer, founder, conference creator, coach, investor, and one of the most quietly influential forces behind the UK design and product community. If you’ve worked in UX anytime in the last two decades, you’ve almost certainly felt Andy’s impact: Clearleft, UX London, dConstruct, Leading Design, CSS Mastery, the Brighton Digital Festival… the list is long for a reason.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we dig into the questions so many designers are quietly wrestling with; Have we already passed “peak designer”? And what does a meaningful, sustainable design career look like on the other side?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We explore why 2020–21 marked the high-water point for UX hiring, how AI and automation are reshaping the work, and why “Figma operator culture” was always a dead end. Andy maps the design chaos from identity crisis many designers are feeling, the discomfort of reinvention, and why embracing uncertainty is now a core skill. We also journey through his experiences with the early web, Clearleft, building communities, leadership — and the ongoing search for new personal S-curves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re feeling energised, anxious, confused, optimistic (or all of the above) about where design is heading, this one will resonate deeply.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Andy Budd&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn –&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/andybudd/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; https://www.linkedin.com/in/andybudd/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://andybudd.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://andybudd.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Book – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://andybudd.com/book&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://andybudd.com/book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://seedcamp.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://seedcamp.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Have We Reached “Peak Designer”? The Hiring Boom and Slowdown&lt;br /&gt;01:08 Introducing Andy — Designer, Founder, Investor, Pilot, Diver, “Shark Wrangler”&lt;br /&gt;01:42 Origin Story — Geeky Kid, Early Web, and Falling in Love with the Internet&lt;br /&gt;04:35 From Dive Instructor in Asia to Self-Taught Web Designer&lt;br /&gt;07:26 Discovering UX and Helping Bring User Experience Design to the UK&lt;br /&gt;10:34 Meeting Rich and Jeremy, Web Standards, and the Birth of Clearleft&lt;br /&gt;18:43 Inside Clearleft — Culture, Community, and a Different Way to Run an Agency&lt;br /&gt;22:15 Burberry, “Hyper-Alignment,” and How Clearleft Actually Worked Day to Day&lt;br /&gt;32:24 UX London, Leading Design, and the “Accidental Design Leader”&lt;br /&gt;47:16 Broken Web, AI, the Future of Design — S-Curves, Uncertainty, and Learning to Flow&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:08:59</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/f9705313-cf24-4be6-b26d-bedefe6aba6b/images/945d8a88-3530-4f68-a403-3b2c5a319bea.png"/><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#13 Peak designer, AI, uncertainty and what’s next | Andy Budd</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#12 Champagne and razor blades: Inside design recruitment]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“<b>What does it mean to recruit in a turbulent UX market — and where is the industry heading?</b>”</p><p></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this episode, Danny speaks with long-time UX and design recruiter Nick Grantham about the realities of today’s hiring landscape. Nick shares his journey from studying design to becoming a specialist design recruiter, the emotional side of matchmaking candidates and teams, and why the last few years have reshaped expectations for designers, hiring managers, and recruiters alike. They discuss the impact of interest rates, AI, internal talent teams, CV myths, candidate overwhelm, and how to stay resilient while navigating a challenging market. Nick brings clarity, honesty, and grounded optimism to a conversation many designers need right now.</p><p></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Nick Grantham<br />Nick is an Associate Director at Zebra People, who are a long-standing, digital specialist recruitment agency. Nick himself has been leading UX and product design recruitment across start-ups, scale-ups, and major brands for the past 15 years. With deep experience shaping design teams and advising on hiring strategy, Nick brings a no-nonsense approach to his trade and had even started his career in design before switching to recruitment.</p><p>LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickgrantham/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickgrantham/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://zebrapeople.com/" target="_blank">https://zebrapeople.com/</a></p><p></p><p><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a></p><p>Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a></p><p>Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Why bring a recruiter into a design podcast<br />02:02 Nick’s journey from transport design to UX recruitment<br />08:27 What recruiters actually do (and how matchmaking really works)<br />10:14 The human side of recruitment, emotions, and life-changing moves<br />13:51 “Champagne and razor blades”: the highs and lows of placements<br />23:22 Why this downturn feels different: interest rates, budgets, and AI<br />30:21 Adapting as a designer: UX, product, research, and service design<br />35:26 Specialising, doubling down on strengths, and applying strategically<br />38:33 Tasks, process design, and the impact on diversity and inclusion<br />54:17 The future of recruitment, AI, and cautious optimism for the market</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">de0b2fd4-06de-4f43-a3a8-61794b74c980</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2025 20:23:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/ac19d7cde599c407581a4192391df76d7006051e72f93d36e7da64a1a6521a24/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJkZTBiMmZkNC0wNmRlLTRmNDMtYTNhOC02MTc5NGI3NGM5ODAiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkyNDg0OTM3ODUzYzE1YzdlN2UyMjBiL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS0xMS0yNF9fMTctMTUtMTUubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="51171849" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“&lt;b&gt;What does it mean to recruit in a turbulent UX market — and where is the industry heading?&lt;/b&gt;”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, Danny speaks with long-time UX and design recruiter Nick Grantham about the realities of today’s hiring landscape. Nick shares his journey from studying design to becoming a specialist design recruiter, the emotional side of matchmaking candidates and teams, and why the last few years have reshaped expectations for designers, hiring managers, and recruiters alike. They discuss the impact of interest rates, AI, internal talent teams, CV myths, candidate overwhelm, and how to stay resilient while navigating a challenging market. Nick brings clarity, honesty, and grounded optimism to a conversation many designers need right now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nick Grantham&lt;br /&gt;Nick is an Associate Director at Zebra People, who are a long-standing, digital specialist recruitment agency. Nick himself has been leading UX and product design recruitment across start-ups, scale-ups, and major brands for the past 15 years. With deep experience shaping design teams and advising on hiring strategy, Nick brings a no-nonsense approach to his trade and had even started his career in design before switching to recruitment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickgrantham/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickgrantham/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://zebrapeople.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://zebrapeople.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Why bring a recruiter into a design podcast&lt;br /&gt;02:02 Nick’s journey from transport design to UX recruitment&lt;br /&gt;08:27 What recruiters actually do (and how matchmaking really works)&lt;br /&gt;10:14 The human side of recruitment, emotions, and life-changing moves&lt;br /&gt;13:51 “Champagne and razor blades”: the highs and lows of placements&lt;br /&gt;23:22 Why this downturn feels different: interest rates, budgets, and AI&lt;br /&gt;30:21 Adapting as a designer: UX, product, research, and service design&lt;br /&gt;35:26 Specialising, doubling down on strengths, and applying strategically&lt;br /&gt;38:33 Tasks, process design, and the impact on diversity and inclusion&lt;br /&gt;54:17 The future of recruitment, AI, and cautious optimism for the market&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:00:03</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/de0b2fd4-06de-4f43-a3a8-61794b74c980/images/70e121de-65ba-44be-b041-9c928addf8aa.png"/><itunes:title>#12 Champagne and razor blades: Inside design recruitment</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#11 No rules, just purpose, passion, luck & community]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>What happens when creativity, community, and technology collide?</b><br /></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this episode, I catch up with <b>Sol Rogers,</b> my old next-door neighbour from Totnes who’s now the Global Director of Innovation at <b>Magnopus</b> and founder of the award-winning immersive studio <b>Rewind</b>. Sol’s career has spanned VR, film, and emerging tech for Disney, Jaguar, and Meta, and he’s earned an honorary doctorate for his impact on the industry.</p><p>We talk about his unconventional start as a new-age traveller, the realities of success, ADHD, fatherhood, and what it means to build communities that truly support people. Sol shares stories of breakthroughs, burnout, and staying grounded in a fast-moving world — including how a VR demo for Jaguar unexpectedly reshaped car design.</p><p>A thoughtful, open conversation about creativity, purpose, and time.<br /></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Dr Solomon Rogers<br />LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/solrogers/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/solrogers/</a><br />Magnopus – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.magnopus.com/" target="_blank">https://www.magnopus.com/</a><br /></p><p><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a><br /></p><p><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Childhood Connections and Early Influences<br />03:41 Career Journey and Professional Achievements<br />06:34 Defining Success: Personal Perspectives<br />09:29 The Role of Community in Personal Growth<br />12:31 Navigating Privilege and Opportunity<br />15:11 The Impact of ADHD on Life and Work<br />18:23 Building a Culture of Community in Business<br />21:09 The Intersection of Friendship and Leadership<br />34:05 The Emotional Complexity of Team Dynamics<br />36:43 Navigating Business Challenges and Personal Growth<br />40:08 The Intersection of Technology and Design<br />46:36 The Evolution of Virtual Reality in Automotive Design<br />50:41 The Future of Digital Twins and Immersive Experiences<br />56:46 Cultivating Healthy Relationships with Technology</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3f84b274-1914-4aea-9366-58ff2a83927a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2025 20:20:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/5ad7a6b2bbc6681ab5a060cfb2c33645e0a155ba117df1a7cff2c4f335c41585/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzZjg0YjI3NC0xOTE0LTRhZWEtOTM2Ni01OGZmMmE4MzkyN2EiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkwZTVlYmQ0ZGVmOTExMmNiMGZkNTkzL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS0xMS03X18yMi0zLTU3Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="49653786" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;What happens when creativity, community, and technology collide?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, I catch up with &lt;b&gt;Sol Rogers,&lt;/b&gt; my old next-door neighbour from Totnes who’s now the Global Director of Innovation at &lt;b&gt;Magnopus&lt;/b&gt; and founder of the award-winning immersive studio &lt;b&gt;Rewind&lt;/b&gt;. Sol’s career has spanned VR, film, and emerging tech for Disney, Jaguar, and Meta, and he’s earned an honorary doctorate for his impact on the industry.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We talk about his unconventional start as a new-age traveller, the realities of success, ADHD, fatherhood, and what it means to build communities that truly support people. Sol shares stories of breakthroughs, burnout, and staying grounded in a fast-moving world — including how a VR demo for Jaguar unexpectedly reshaped car design.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A thoughtful, open conversation about creativity, purpose, and time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr Solomon Rogers&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/solrogers/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/solrogers/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Magnopus – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.magnopus.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.magnopus.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Childhood Connections and Early Influences&lt;br /&gt;03:41 Career Journey and Professional Achievements&lt;br /&gt;06:34 Defining Success: Personal Perspectives&lt;br /&gt;09:29 The Role of Community in Personal Growth&lt;br /&gt;12:31 Navigating Privilege and Opportunity&lt;br /&gt;15:11 The Impact of ADHD on Life and Work&lt;br /&gt;18:23 Building a Culture of Community in Business&lt;br /&gt;21:09 The Intersection of Friendship and Leadership&lt;br /&gt;34:05 The Emotional Complexity of Team Dynamics&lt;br /&gt;36:43 Navigating Business Challenges and Personal Growth&lt;br /&gt;40:08 The Intersection of Technology and Design&lt;br /&gt;46:36 The Evolution of Virtual Reality in Automotive Design&lt;br /&gt;50:41 The Future of Digital Twins and Immersive Experiences&lt;br /&gt;56:46 Cultivating Healthy Relationships with Technology&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:03:55</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/3f84b274-1914-4aea-9366-58ff2a83927a/images/aaa09579-716f-406e-988f-d0395ca075fb.png"/><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#11 No rules, just purpose, passion, luck &amp; community</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#10 Systems, stories, and staying human in design]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“What happens when design grows up?”<br /></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this episode, Julia and I explore what happens when design grows up — as systems thinking, organisational politics, and industry shifts reshape what it means to do meaningful work. Julia Petretta, an experienced Product Design Leader, has shaped digital experiences across startups and global consultancies — from Welltech and Plum to Accenture, Infinity Works, and Meta’s Oversight Board. With a background spanning UX, service design, and strategy, they’ve led teams, built design practices, and driven AI-powered, user-centred innovation across complex products and services. We talk about finding your voice, designing relationships (not just interfaces), and challenging the myth that design always “makes the world better.” From the disintegration of UX to the rise of product thinking, it’s an honest look at where our craft stands — and how to stay grounded through art, nature, and reflection.</p><p><br /><b>Guest</b><br />Julia Petretta – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliapetretta" target="_blank">LinkedIN</a></p><p>Dave Stewart — <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://davestewart.co.uk/blog/the-work-is-never-just-the-work/" target="_blank">The Work Is Never Just the Work</a><br />Basecamp — <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://basecamp.com/shapeup" target="_blank">https://basecamp.com/shapeup</a> <br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://medium.com/design-bootcamp/thinking-paradigms-in-ux-feec562324ee" target="_blank">https://medium.com/design-bootcamp/thinking-paradigms-in-ux-feec562324ee</a> (systems thinking in design)<br /><br /><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">linkedIN</a> <br /></p><p><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Intro + the “design helps people” myth<br />01:01 Finding a voice on stage<br />07:37 Systems thinking (interrelated parts &amp; loops)<br />12:16 Why product: constraints that focus the work<br />16:47 NHS co-design example (multi-actor journey mapping)<br />21:05 Monday-morning application: boundaries &amp; x-functional views<br />25:26 Culture/politics: hard conversations vs quick fixes<br />31:40 Industry shifts &amp; AI waves<br />37:05 Airbnb ripple effects, scale distortion &amp; reviews<br />42:22 Generalists, Figma polish, and AI “taste”<br />48:05 Cautious hope: shaping from the inside<br />49:13 Grounding practices: dog, nature, yoga, art</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">1f22c703-bd24-4dbb-b61d-e2ffcae1314d</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 10:31:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7536ffecff15c69350d2af94e13ab7c14b18c64375851a8f86547b21aa8425df/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxZjIyYzcwMy1iZDI0LTRkYmItYjYxZC1lMmZmY2FlMTMxNGQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkwNDg2ZWNjZDlmZDVmMzY0NGU2ZDMxL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS0xMC0zMV9fMTAtNTItNDQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="40343038" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“What happens when design grows up?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, Julia and I explore what happens when design grows up — as systems thinking, organisational politics, and industry shifts reshape what it means to do meaningful work. Julia Petretta, an experienced Product Design Leader, has shaped digital experiences across startups and global consultancies — from Welltech and Plum to Accenture, Infinity Works, and Meta’s Oversight Board. With a background spanning UX, service design, and strategy, they’ve led teams, built design practices, and driven AI-powered, user-centred innovation across complex products and services. We talk about finding your voice, designing relationships (not just interfaces), and challenging the myth that design always “makes the world better.” From the disintegration of UX to the rise of product thinking, it’s an honest look at where our craft stands — and how to stay grounded through art, nature, and reflection.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Julia Petretta – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliapetretta&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;LinkedIN&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dave Stewart — &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://davestewart.co.uk/blog/the-work-is-never-just-the-work/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The Work Is Never Just the Work&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Basecamp — &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://basecamp.com/shapeup&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://basecamp.com/shapeup&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://medium.com/design-bootcamp/thinking-paradigms-in-ux-feec562324ee&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://medium.com/design-bootcamp/thinking-paradigms-in-ux-feec562324ee&lt;/a&gt; (systems thinking in design)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;linkedIN&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Intro + the “design helps people” myth&lt;br /&gt;01:01 Finding a voice on stage&lt;br /&gt;07:37 Systems thinking (interrelated parts &amp;amp; loops)&lt;br /&gt;12:16 Why product: constraints that focus the work&lt;br /&gt;16:47 NHS co-design example (multi-actor journey mapping)&lt;br /&gt;21:05 Monday-morning application: boundaries &amp;amp; x-functional views&lt;br /&gt;25:26 Culture/politics: hard conversations vs quick fixes&lt;br /&gt;31:40 Industry shifts &amp;amp; AI waves&lt;br /&gt;37:05 Airbnb ripple effects, scale distortion &amp;amp; reviews&lt;br /&gt;42:22 Generalists, Figma polish, and AI “taste”&lt;br /&gt;48:05 Cautious hope: shaping from the inside&lt;br /&gt;49:13 Grounding practices: dog, nature, yoga, art&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:56:44</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/1f22c703-bd24-4dbb-b61d-e2ffcae1314d/images/6031f893-5ece-41f4-98b9-037c83f61545.png"/><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#10 Systems, stories, and staying human in design</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#9 Searching for meaning : In conversation with a UX Coach]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“What happens when your UX career stops fitting the life you want — and you decide to rewrite the story?”<br /></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this powerful episode, Amy Santee joins me to unpack the realities of building a career in UX — beyond the glossy titles and job descriptions. With a background spanning childhood development, healthcare innovation, and UX strategy at eBay and Civic Software Foundation, Amy has spent over a decade exploring how people, systems, and products connect. Today, as a Design Researcher and Career Strategist, they coach UX professionals through burnout, career change, and the messy realities of the industry. Together, we dive into the emotional and systemic challenges of UX work, the shifting job market, and how to reclaim agency and meaning in your career. We talk about identity, community, and the courage to redefine success on your own terms.<br /></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Amy Santee<br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://thejawbreaker.beehiiv.com" target="_blank">https://thejawbreaker.beehiiv.com</a><br />LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysantee/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysantee/</a></p><p><br /><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a></p><p><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Amy's Journey<br />03:50 Navigating Corporate Culture as an Anthropologist<br />06:52 The Challenges of UX Research<br />09:46 The Jaded UX Professional<br />12:37 Identity and Job Market Uncertainty<br />15:33 The Rigged Job Market for Tech Workers<br />18:46 The Shared Struggles of Workers<br />21:34 The Future of UX and Worker Rights<br />29:59 The Fight for Workers' Rights<br />32:45 Acknowledging the Bleak Reality<br />35:09 Embracing the Unconventional Career Path<br />37:20 Navigating Uncertainty and Identity<br />40:37 Redefining Value Beyond Productivity<br />43:38 Diversifying Income Streams<br />46:09 Finding Fulfillment in Unexpected Places</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9063f47e-03a6-4649-8db4-8f03d96e591a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 19:13:45 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/5131934a3e07c715cc2efdb8bfcc1438a03eda8026cd96cbc0900f22ddc2e9ac/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5MDYzZjQ3ZS0wM2E2LTQ2NDktOGRiNC04ZjAzZDk2ZTU5MWEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjhmZTAyYzJiOWI0OGU5YTE0NmFiZjQzL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS0xMC0yNl9fMTItMTUtMTMubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="34300398" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“What happens when your UX career stops fitting the life you want — and you decide to rewrite the story?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this powerful episode, Amy Santee joins me to unpack the realities of building a career in UX — beyond the glossy titles and job descriptions. With a background spanning childhood development, healthcare innovation, and UX strategy at eBay and Civic Software Foundation, Amy has spent over a decade exploring how people, systems, and products connect. Today, as a Design Researcher and Career Strategist, they coach UX professionals through burnout, career change, and the messy realities of the industry. Together, we dive into the emotional and systemic challenges of UX work, the shifting job market, and how to reclaim agency and meaning in your career. We talk about identity, community, and the courage to redefine success on your own terms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amy Santee&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://thejawbreaker.beehiiv.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://thejawbreaker.beehiiv.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysantee/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysantee/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction to Amy&apos;s Journey&lt;br /&gt;03:50 Navigating Corporate Culture as an Anthropologist&lt;br /&gt;06:52 The Challenges of UX Research&lt;br /&gt;09:46 The Jaded UX Professional&lt;br /&gt;12:37 Identity and Job Market Uncertainty&lt;br /&gt;15:33 The Rigged Job Market for Tech Workers&lt;br /&gt;18:46 The Shared Struggles of Workers&lt;br /&gt;21:34 The Future of UX and Worker Rights&lt;br /&gt;29:59 The Fight for Workers&apos; Rights&lt;br /&gt;32:45 Acknowledging the Bleak Reality&lt;br /&gt;35:09 Embracing the Unconventional Career Path&lt;br /&gt;37:20 Navigating Uncertainty and Identity&lt;br /&gt;40:37 Redefining Value Beyond Productivity&lt;br /&gt;43:38 Diversifying Income Streams&lt;br /&gt;46:09 Finding Fulfillment in Unexpected Places&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:49:07</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/9063f47e-03a6-4649-8db4-8f03d96e591a/images/558f25fb-eeff-47bd-a6d8-9f8d9e492c42.png"/><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#9 Searching for meaning : In conversation with a UX Coach</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#8 Speaking louder, listening deeper and finding your voice]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“What does it really mean to design with empathy — and how do we stay human in a system that often forgets it?”</p><p><b>Summary</b><br />Caro shares her journey from scientific research in New Zealand to becoming a Senior Service Designer in London. She reflects on navigating ambiguity, embracing imposter syndrome, and finding confidence in her own voice. We talk about authenticity in the tech industry, the realities of consultancy, teaching systems thinking, and her passion for empowering young women in tech.</p><p><b>Guest</b><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-mcelroy/" target="_blank">Caro McElroy</a><br /></p><p><b>Host</b><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">Danny Hearn</a> <br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a><br /></p><p><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 From genetics to discovering service design<br />01:54 Early career: labs, Toastmasters, facilitation &amp; Westpac<br />04:52 Service design as a generalist’s dream &amp; loving ambiguity<br />10:06 Why divergence feels “unproductive” (and why it matters)<br />12:42 Good vs hard clients, trust, and being treated as part of the team<br />15:50 Imposter syndrome and learning to say “I don’t know”<br />21:32 Teaching systems thinking &amp; why consultancy accelerates growth<br />24:14 Tech for good and empowering young women in tech<br />31:50 Finding your voice, language, and not shrinking at work<br />40:36 Bias, ownership, and learning to claim credit for your impact</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">f050e19c-d0fd-4f0c-9a6b-f6becd8fdcaf</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2025 12:58:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/afa0e9cca6d97e763e9155863a6d7f63df96d40b7c9d2c71b063e4c6e69893b6/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJmMDUwZTE5Yy1kMGZkLTRmMGMtOWE2Yi1mNmJlY2Q4ZmRjYWYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjhjZmVjNTQ3MDFmMWIwNGI5M2E0YWQ3L2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS05LTIxX18xNC0xNS0xNi5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="38248995" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“What does it really mean to design with empathy — and how do we stay human in a system that often forgets it?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caro shares her journey from scientific research in New Zealand to becoming a Senior Service Designer in London. She reflects on navigating ambiguity, embracing imposter syndrome, and finding confidence in her own voice. We talk about authenticity in the tech industry, the realities of consultancy, teaching systems thinking, and her passion for empowering young women in tech.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-mcelroy/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Caro McElroy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Danny Hearn&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 From genetics to discovering service design&lt;br /&gt;01:54 Early career: labs, Toastmasters, facilitation &amp;amp; Westpac&lt;br /&gt;04:52 Service design as a generalist’s dream &amp;amp; loving ambiguity&lt;br /&gt;10:06 Why divergence feels “unproductive” (and why it matters)&lt;br /&gt;12:42 Good vs hard clients, trust, and being treated as part of the team&lt;br /&gt;15:50 Imposter syndrome and learning to say “I don’t know”&lt;br /&gt;21:32 Teaching systems thinking &amp;amp; why consultancy accelerates growth&lt;br /&gt;24:14 Tech for good and empowering young women in tech&lt;br /&gt;31:50 Finding your voice, language, and not shrinking at work&lt;br /&gt;40:36 Bias, ownership, and learning to claim credit for your impact&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:47:17</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/f050e19c-d0fd-4f0c-9a6b-f6becd8fdcaf/images/e973bab6-5d7f-4b5b-a6b8-c61790b2153a.png"/><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#8 Speaking louder, listening deeper and finding your voice</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#7 Finding my path in UX, Icarus and vulnerability in leadership]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>“What happens when ambition collides with authenticity — and how do we stay grounded while leading others?”</b><br /></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this episode, I sit down with Joe Knowles to explore his career journey, where he grappled with the challenges of a fast-paced UX career. We reflect on his "Icarus moment"—the point where his professional climb led to a personal re-evaluation—and discuss the honest struggles of UX leadership. Joe opens up about the intersection of introversion and authenticity, and the power of being vulnerable in an industry that can often feel like a performance. This conversation is for anyone navigating their own path and seeking a more human-centered approach to their work.<br /></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Joe Knowles<br />LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-knowles-41a80a20/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-knowles-41a80a20/</a><br /></p><p><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a><br /></p><p><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />03:33 The Icarus Metaphor: Balancing Career and Personal Life<br />06:26 The Weight of Responsibility in Leadership<br />09:34 Navigating Job Security and Market Anxiety<br />12:26 Authentic Leadership in Uncertain Times<br />15:40 The Challenges of Introversion in Leadership<br />18:28 Vulnerability and Its Impact on Team Dynamics<br />21:33 Burnout: Understanding and Addressing It<br />24:32 Reflections on Personal Experiences with Burnout<br />32:12 The Human Element in Work Relationships<br />34:32 Motivation and Ownership in Work<br />38:06 Identity and Career Choices<br />39:36 Public vs. Private Sector Dynamics<br />42:40 Long-term Commitment in Public Sector Work<br />44:43 Impact Measurement in Public Sector Projects<br />48:57 GDS Methodology: Pros and Cons<br />52:42 Navigating Constraints in Public Sector Design<br />55:30 The Importance of Adaptability in Design Careers</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">84b9c584-9076-4569-a771-ba32bd65b3c8</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2025 11:21:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/6e153449bb16414ebd051ccf5940eee3a2b01ad22d6ec8c89cff5004c2cb2e16/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4NGI5YzU4NC05MDc2LTQ1NjktYTc3MS1iYTMyYmQ2NWIzYzgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjhiZTkyMmMzMzY3NThkMmMzYTVmY2UxL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS05LThfXzEwLTIyLTQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="45378459" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;“What happens when ambition collides with authenticity — and how do we stay grounded while leading others?”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, I sit down with Joe Knowles to explore his career journey, where he grappled with the challenges of a fast-paced UX career. We reflect on his &quot;Icarus moment&quot;—the point where his professional climb led to a personal re-evaluation—and discuss the honest struggles of UX leadership. Joe opens up about the intersection of introversion and authenticity, and the power of being vulnerable in an industry that can often feel like a performance. This conversation is for anyone navigating their own path and seeking a more human-centered approach to their work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Joe Knowles&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-knowles-41a80a20/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-knowles-41a80a20/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction and Background&lt;br /&gt;03:33 The Icarus Metaphor: Balancing Career and Personal Life&lt;br /&gt;06:26 The Weight of Responsibility in Leadership&lt;br /&gt;09:34 Navigating Job Security and Market Anxiety&lt;br /&gt;12:26 Authentic Leadership in Uncertain Times&lt;br /&gt;15:40 The Challenges of Introversion in Leadership&lt;br /&gt;18:28 Vulnerability and Its Impact on Team Dynamics&lt;br /&gt;21:33 Burnout: Understanding and Addressing It&lt;br /&gt;24:32 Reflections on Personal Experiences with Burnout&lt;br /&gt;32:12 The Human Element in Work Relationships&lt;br /&gt;34:32 Motivation and Ownership in Work&lt;br /&gt;38:06 Identity and Career Choices&lt;br /&gt;39:36 Public vs. Private Sector Dynamics&lt;br /&gt;42:40 Long-term Commitment in Public Sector Work&lt;br /&gt;44:43 Impact Measurement in Public Sector Projects&lt;br /&gt;48:57 GDS Methodology: Pros and Cons&lt;br /&gt;52:42 Navigating Constraints in Public Sector Design&lt;br /&gt;55:30 The Importance of Adaptability in Design Careers&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:57:54</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/84b9c584-9076-4569-a771-ba32bd65b3c8/images/8f864bbf-e733-4367-a20d-d0cac14d28aa.png"/><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#7 Finding my path in UX, Icarus and vulnerability in leadership</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#6 AI, design, burnout and everything else]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>Gavin Elliott</b>, a senior design leader, shares his personal struggles, sharing his vulnerability, and how he has navigated his own journey with autism while building a long and demanding career in design.<br /></p><p>Gavin is currently Chief Design Officer at <b>Scrumconnect</b>, where he leads user-centred design across major government and private-sector programmes, including the £19m MHCLG account. Previously, he was Senior UX Manager at <b>Shopify</b>, overseeing multiple UX teams and helping deliver key product launches such as Domains and Hydrogen 2.0.</p><p>Before that, Gavin headed UX at <b>UK Health Security Agency</b>, leading design for the NHS COVID-19 app and related services during the pandemic recovery phase. At <b>Department for Work and Pensions</b>, he progressed from Interaction Designer to Head of Service Design, managing more than 70 designers across 40+ projects, including Universal Credit.</p><p>His career also spans Traveljunction, Sky, UserZoom, and Stats Perform, alongside founding <b>Industry Conf</b>. All of this rests on an unexpected early foundation as a British Army mechanic and gaming editor.<br /></p><p>Together, we explore topics ranging from AI and the future of design to the more personal realities of the industry, including mental health, vulnerability, and the importance of support. Gavin speaks candidly about the often-overlooked need for personal and professional care, particularly for those early in their careers.<br /></p><p>We also discuss how to create environments that genuinely foster growth and what it might take to make the design industry more humane and sustainable for everyone.</p><p></p><p>Gavin Elliot</p><p>Web - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://gavinelliott.co.uk/" target="_blank">https://gavinelliott.co.uk/</a></p><p>LinkedIN - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavin-elliott-x/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavin-elliott-x/</a></p><p></p><p>Danny Hearn</p><p>Substack - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com" target="_blank">https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com</a></p><p>Web -  <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">https://www.dannyhearn.me</a></p><p>LinkedIN - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br /><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Have We Reached “Peak Designer”? The Hiring Boom and Slowdown<br />01:08 Introducing Andy — Designer, Founder, Investor, Pilot, Diver, “Shark Wrangler”<br />01:42 Origin Story — Geeky Kid, Early Web, and Falling in Love with the Internet<br />04:35 From Dive Instructor in Asia to Self-Taught Web Designer<br />07:26 Discovering UX and Helping Bring User Experience Design to the UK<br />10:34 Meeting Rich and Jeremy, Web Standards, and the Birth of Clearleft<br />18:43 Inside Clearleft — Culture, Community, and a Different Way to Run an Agency<br />22:15 Burberry, “Hyper-Alignment,” and How Clearleft Actually Worked Day to Day<br />32:24 UX London, Leading Design, and the “Accidental Design Leader”<br />47:16 Broken Web, AI, the Future of Design — S-Curves, Uncertainty, and Learning to Flow</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d43c09f4-1ba1-4c87-a795-ee03102461eb</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2025 19:29:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/4e3f19db973e5f42f7810457e1cec5b8e6b3b0bffaa0294fd3d13f7654b84058/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJkNDNjMDlmNC0xYmExLTRjODctYTc5NS1lZTAzMTAyNDYxZWIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjhiMmE3YjBhOThkMmFmZjk3YTkxNDQwL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS04LTMwX185LTI2LTQwLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="51171985" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gavin Elliott&lt;/b&gt;, a senior design leader, shares his personal struggles, sharing his vulnerability, and how he has navigated his own journey with autism while building a long and demanding career in design.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gavin is currently Chief Design Officer at &lt;b&gt;Scrumconnect&lt;/b&gt;, where he leads user-centred design across major government and private-sector programmes, including the £19m MHCLG account. Previously, he was Senior UX Manager at &lt;b&gt;Shopify&lt;/b&gt;, overseeing multiple UX teams and helping deliver key product launches such as Domains and Hydrogen 2.0.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Before that, Gavin headed UX at &lt;b&gt;UK Health Security Agency&lt;/b&gt;, leading design for the NHS COVID-19 app and related services during the pandemic recovery phase. At &lt;b&gt;Department for Work and Pensions&lt;/b&gt;, he progressed from Interaction Designer to Head of Service Design, managing more than 70 designers across 40+ projects, including Universal Credit.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;His career also spans Traveljunction, Sky, UserZoom, and Stats Perform, alongside founding &lt;b&gt;Industry Conf&lt;/b&gt;. All of this rests on an unexpected early foundation as a British Army mechanic and gaming editor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Together, we explore topics ranging from AI and the future of design to the more personal realities of the industry, including mental health, vulnerability, and the importance of support. Gavin speaks candidly about the often-overlooked need for personal and professional care, particularly for those early in their careers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We also discuss how to create environments that genuinely foster growth and what it might take to make the design industry more humane and sustainable for everyone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gavin Elliot&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Web - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://gavinelliott.co.uk/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://gavinelliott.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIN - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavin-elliott-x/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavin-elliott-x/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Danny Hearn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Substack - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Web -  &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIN - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chapters&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Have We Reached “Peak Designer”? The Hiring Boom and Slowdown&lt;br /&gt;01:08 Introducing Andy — Designer, Founder, Investor, Pilot, Diver, “Shark Wrangler”&lt;br /&gt;01:42 Origin Story — Geeky Kid, Early Web, and Falling in Love with the Internet&lt;br /&gt;04:35 From Dive Instructor in Asia to Self-Taught Web Designer&lt;br /&gt;07:26 Discovering UX and Helping Bring User Experience Design to the UK&lt;br /&gt;10:34 Meeting Rich and Jeremy, Web Standards, and the Birth of Clearleft&lt;br /&gt;18:43 Inside Clearleft — Culture, Community, and a Different Way to Run an Agency&lt;br /&gt;22:15 Burberry, “Hyper-Alignment,” and How Clearleft Actually Worked Day to Day&lt;br /&gt;32:24 UX London, Leading Design, and the “Accidental Design Leader”&lt;br /&gt;47:16 Broken Web, AI, the Future of Design — S-Curves, Uncertainty, and Learning to Flow&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:09:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/d43c09f4-1ba1-4c87-a795-ee03102461eb/images/9c54c4e3-1b23-45a7-a8cf-fb99aac7b675.png"/><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#6 AI, design, burnout and everything else</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#5 Design culture in an age of change]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“Chris and I dig into the shifting shape of design roles — and what it means for inclusive leadership.”<br /></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this insightful episode, we delve into the evolving landscape of design roles and the increasing specialisation within the industry. Join Chris Compston and me as we explore the dynamics of inclusivity in design leadership, reflecting on personal experiences and the subtle power shifts in remote meetings. Discover how these changes are shaping the future of design and the importance of taking action to foster a more inclusive environment. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges the status quo and inspires reflection on our roles within the design community.<br /></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Chris Compston<br />Substack – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://chriscompston.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://chriscompston.substack.com/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://chriscompston.com/" target="_blank">https://chriscompston.com/</a><br />LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscompston/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscompston/</a><br /></p><p><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a><br />Website – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">www.dannyhearn.me</a><br />Podcast – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com" target="_blank">www.deeplyhumandesign.com</a><br /><br />Chapters <br />00:00 The Journey of Chris Compston </p><p>05:07 The Evolution of UX Design </p><p>12:00 The State of Product Design Today </p><p>20:00 AI's Impact on Design and Product Management 25:49 Navigating Change in the Design Landscape </p><p>27:14 The Value of Human Contribution in a Capitalist Society </p><p>28:57 Defining Personal and Organizational Values </p><p>30:25 The Importance of Inclusivity in Innovation </p><p>32:21 The Shift in Hiring Practices and Candidate Experience </p><p>36:23 Rethinking Interview Processes for Inclusivity </p><p>43:33 Understanding Product Operations </p><p>48:00 Building Confidence as a Consultant </p><p>52:00 Creating Psychological Safety in Teams</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bc07d2e3-72b1-4a44-b100-63385327e5f9</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 20:02:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7596585b1f21b9a4c2e8062530832b72c81865b660094a4d2c2c5681287a63e1/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiYzA3ZDJlMy03MmIxLTRhNDQtYjEwMC02MzM4NTMyN2U1ZjkiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjhhY2JlMmVkMGFiZWE3NTFmY2QyMzk4L2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS04LTI1X18yMS00OS0yLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="44808897" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“Chris and I dig into the shifting shape of design roles — and what it means for inclusive leadership.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this insightful episode, we delve into the evolving landscape of design roles and the increasing specialisation within the industry. Join Chris Compston and me as we explore the dynamics of inclusivity in design leadership, reflecting on personal experiences and the subtle power shifts in remote meetings. Discover how these changes are shaping the future of design and the importance of taking action to foster a more inclusive environment. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges the status quo and inspires reflection on our roles within the design community.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chris Compston&lt;br /&gt;Substack – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://chriscompston.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://chriscompston.substack.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://chriscompston.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://chriscompston.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscompston/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscompston/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Website – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Podcast – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.deeplyhumandesign.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.deeplyhumandesign.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chapters &lt;br /&gt;00:00 The Journey of Chris Compston &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;05:07 The Evolution of UX Design &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:00 The State of Product Design Today &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20:00 AI&apos;s Impact on Design and Product Management 25:49 Navigating Change in the Design Landscape &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;27:14 The Value of Human Contribution in a Capitalist Society &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;28:57 Defining Personal and Organizational Values &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:25 The Importance of Inclusivity in Innovation &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;32:21 The Shift in Hiring Practices and Candidate Experience &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;36:23 Rethinking Interview Processes for Inclusivity &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;43:33 Understanding Product Operations &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;48:00 Building Confidence as a Consultant &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;52:00 Creating Psychological Safety in Teams&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:57:19</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/bc07d2e3-72b1-4a44-b100-63385327e5f9/images/b1a7782b-5ad9-4a89-99c5-4935bfe2f7b0.png"/><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#5 Design culture in an age of change</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#4 Navigating the UX Landscape]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, Carmen and I explore the evolution of UX design, the importance of user research, and the challenges faced in the current job market. They discuss the impact of AI on the industry, the role of imposter syndrome, and the significance of outcomes in design. Carmen shares her insights on the changing landscape of product design and the need for innovation in a challenging economy, emphasising the value of research in shaping successful products.</p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7f283247-7965-433f-90f1-4b521952cacc</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 12:49:36 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/6e10cf1f30eebefe93c5b4f0cf9ca0fddfdf01fd906d2dffefcd15d9b5ae2ddb/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3ZjI4MzI0Ny03OTY1LTQzM2YtOTBmMS00YjUyMTk1MmNhY2MiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjg5NjRhZGFlNWViMGIwZmMzMDNiYTczL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS04LThfXzIxLTctNi5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="50232610" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this conversation, Carmen and I explore the evolution of UX design, the importance of user research, and the challenges faced in the current job market. They discuss the impact of AI on the industry, the role of imposter syndrome, and the significance of outcomes in design. Carmen shares her insights on the changing landscape of product design and the need for innovation in a challenging economy, emphasising the value of research in shaping successful products.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:07:51</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/7f283247-7965-433f-90f1-4b521952cacc/images/7bc85ab9-a260-4dbc-9d00-f323c0822445.png"/><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#4 Navigating the UX Landscape</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#3 In design it's all detective work]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>“What does it really mean to design with empathy — and how do we stay human in a system that often forgets it?”</b></p><p></p><p><b>Summary</b><br />In this episode, Kirtika and I explore the layered world of UX design — from discovery and research to empathy and growth. She shares her journey from graphic design to UX, the power of curiosity, and the ongoing challenge of balancing user needs with business goals. We talk about company culture, interviews, autonomy, and what it really takes to keep growing creatively and professionally in this field.</p><p></p><p><b>Guest</b><br />Kirtika B<br />Instagram – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/dirtykirti/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/dirtykirti/</a><br />LinkedIn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkir/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkir/</a></p><p></p><p><b>Host</b><br />Danny Hearn – <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a></p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />02:51 Understanding UX Design<br />05:59 The Role of a UX Designer<br />09:00 The Importance of Discovery<br />11:54 Diverging vs. Converging in Design<br />15:00 The Evolution of UX Roles<br />18:04 Balancing Business and User Needs<br />21:04 Research Methodologies in UX<br />23:59 The Impact of Dyslexia on Design Thinking<br />26:52 Cultivating a Supportive Design Culture<br />28:21 Empowerment and Support in the Workplace<br />30:15 The Importance of Autonomy and Trust<br />32:40 Problem-Solving Mindset in Design<br />34:54 The Art of Listening and Communication<br />38:14 Navigating Workplace Dynamics<br />41:05 The Value of Experience and Portfolio<br />45:03 The Illusion of Job Security<br />48:09 Pursuing Passion and Overcoming Fear</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e074d493-d40f-4f81-98c0-dbde1f1e1f75</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 12:37:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/da95ffcae7d3da8815c0f0eddcecf80054df43b3445911164394edbc472f2b46/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlMDc0ZDQ5My1kNDBmLTRmODEtOThjMC1kYmRlMWYxZTFmNzUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjg5OGJhZGM0NDE5MjI1MWNjNDRhNmRkL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS04LTEwX18xNy0yOS0zMi5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="38446497" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;“What does it really mean to design with empathy — and how do we stay human in a system that often forgets it?”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this episode, Kirtika and I explore the layered world of UX design — from discovery and research to empathy and growth. She shares her journey from graphic design to UX, the power of curiosity, and the ongoing challenge of balancing user needs with business goals. We talk about company culture, interviews, autonomy, and what it really takes to keep growing creatively and professionally in this field.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Guest&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kirtika B&lt;br /&gt;Instagram – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/dirtykirti/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/dirtykirti/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LinkedIn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkir/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkir/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Host&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Danny Hearn – &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Chapters&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction and Background&lt;br /&gt;02:51 Understanding UX Design&lt;br /&gt;05:59 The Role of a UX Designer&lt;br /&gt;09:00 The Importance of Discovery&lt;br /&gt;11:54 Diverging vs. Converging in Design&lt;br /&gt;15:00 The Evolution of UX Roles&lt;br /&gt;18:04 Balancing Business and User Needs&lt;br /&gt;21:04 Research Methodologies in UX&lt;br /&gt;23:59 The Impact of Dyslexia on Design Thinking&lt;br /&gt;26:52 Cultivating a Supportive Design Culture&lt;br /&gt;28:21 Empowerment and Support in the Workplace&lt;br /&gt;30:15 The Importance of Autonomy and Trust&lt;br /&gt;32:40 Problem-Solving Mindset in Design&lt;br /&gt;34:54 The Art of Listening and Communication&lt;br /&gt;38:14 Navigating Workplace Dynamics&lt;br /&gt;41:05 The Value of Experience and Portfolio&lt;br /&gt;45:03 The Illusion of Job Security&lt;br /&gt;48:09 Pursuing Passion and Overcoming Fear&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:52:03</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/e074d493-d40f-4f81-98c0-dbde1f1e1f75/images/5bb4fa9c-1b2d-45fd-b628-28f140afb7c3.png"/><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#3 In design it&apos;s all detective work</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#1 Welcome to the podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the deeply human design podcast. In this short introduction, I invite you to explore the heart and soul of working in design. My aim is to create a space for authentic conversations about the messy, inspiring, and very human side of our work. Join me as we uncover the stories and insights that make design a truly human experience.</p><p></p><p>Substack - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com" target="_blank">https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com</a></p><p>Web -  <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.dannyhearn.me" target="_blank">https://www.dannyhearn.me</a></p><p>LinkedIN - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">fa6a1e75-b06e-427b-ac62-648ccd7af21f</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:44:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/0aaefb81e0b5cad071ee9ccf7d95ef477822b41260a759094920ff28d8e96fbb/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJmYTZhMWU3NS1iMDZlLTQyN2ItYWM2Mi02NDhjY2Q3YWYyMWYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjg5OWQ1ZDY4MTZkNjY1MGMzNTY3MWFjL2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS04LTExX18xMy0zNi01NC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="1067060" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Welcome to the deeply human design podcast. In this short introduction, I invite you to explore the heart and soul of working in design. My aim is to create a space for authentic conversations about the messy, inspiring, and very human side of our work. Join me as we uncover the stories and insights that make design a truly human experience.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Substack - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://deeplyhumandesign.substack.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Web -  &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.dannyhearn.me&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.dannyhearn.me&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LinkedIN - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyhearn/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:01:37</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/logos/ada73cf4-a194-466e-a2b9-6e0bfce3677b.png"/><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#1 Welcome to the podcast</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[#2 Building, Designing, and Staying Human]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this first episode, I sit down with Gavin, a designer, builder and creator of Figma plugins downloaded over 600,000 times. We talk about the messy, emotional side of design: instinct, burnout, psychological safety and how our environments shape the work we do. Gavin shares his journey from Rolls Royce to government projects to building tools for designers, and we explore what it takes to balance empathy, pragmatism and craft in today’s shifting UX landscape.</p><p><br /><b>Gavin's figma plugins</b><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.figma.com/@gavinmcfarland" target="_blank">https://www.figma.com/@gavinmcfarland</a><br /><br /><b>Gavins website</b><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://gavinmcfarland.co.uk/" target="_blank">https://gavinmcfarland.co.uk/</a><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">11f9d2f0-dcad-4331-bb66-43616ef9c562</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Hearn]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 16:09:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/a68d13a5b228747479b0e930052d10fbfc9739adc40a35b4647aa24d7df88a11/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxMWY5ZDJmMC1kY2FkLTQzMzEtYmI2Ni00MzYxNmVmOWM1NjIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIyMWFhM2YxYi0xZTNlLTQwMTEtOGFhMi1hNGFmNDQ2MWMyNzkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODgyMWUxNDc3ZjkwZGQ2MmQwZTkyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjg5NjRhNmFjYWQ2M2E2NWU2MmEzZGQ0L2Rhbm55cy1zdHVkaW8tTkJSWjEtY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNS04LThfXzIxLTUtMTQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="39203163" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this first episode, I sit down with Gavin, a designer, builder and creator of Figma plugins downloaded over 600,000 times. We talk about the messy, emotional side of design: instinct, burnout, psychological safety and how our environments shape the work we do. Gavin shares his journey from Rolls Royce to government projects to building tools for designers, and we explore what it takes to balance empathy, pragmatism and craft in today’s shifting UX landscape.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gavin&apos;s figma plugins&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.figma.com/@gavinmcfarland&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.figma.com/@gavinmcfarland&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Gavins website&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://gavinmcfarland.co.uk/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://gavinmcfarland.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:49:53</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/21aa3f1b-1e3e-4011-8aa2-a4af4461c279/episodes/11f9d2f0-dcad-4331-bb66-43616ef9c562/images/2e8fc33d-7086-4040-9037-87128a509e73.png"/><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>#2 Building, Designing, and Staying Human</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>