<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[So Drama]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>Welcome to the only podcast taking you on the journey from <i>Theater Kid to HR Pro</i>, one story at a time. </b></p><p></p><p>My theater background has been hugely impactful in my approach to HR. Happily, I've realized over the years that there are more of us out there than I thought...but why? </p><p></p><p><i>So Drama</i> unpacks the unexpected crossovers and transferrable skills that have created some of the most talented and thoughtful leaders in HR. We're bringing you sordid stories from the stage and wild wisdom from the workplace, highlighting the ways art grounds us in humanity and the weird skills we didn't think we'd ever need again.</p><p></p><p>Find out why so many of your favorite People People started out as Theater People on <i>So Drama</i>. Laugh a little. Learn a little. Laugh some more. </p>]]></description><link>http://patchworkportfolio.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2026 11:20:30 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/jmZrL6Gi.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Kim Rohrer]]></author><pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 18:36:07 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Kim Rohrer]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Arts]]></category><category><![CDATA[Careers]]></category><itunes:author>Kim Rohrer</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Welcome to the only podcast taking you on the journey from &lt;i&gt;Theater Kid to HR Pro&lt;/i&gt;, one story at a time. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My theater background has been hugely impactful in my approach to HR. Happily, I&apos;ve realized over the years that there are more of us out there than I thought...but why? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;So Drama&lt;/i&gt; unpacks the unexpected crossovers and transferrable skills that have created some of the most talented and thoughtful leaders in HR. We&apos;re bringing you sordid stories from the stage and wild wisdom from the workplace, highlighting the ways art grounds us in humanity and the weird skills we didn&apos;t think we&apos;d ever need again.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find out why so many of your favorite People People started out as Theater People on &lt;i&gt;So Drama&lt;/i&gt;. Laugh a little. Learn a little. Laugh some more. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Kim Rohrer</itunes:name><itunes:email>kim@patchworkportfolio.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Arts"/><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Careers"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/663e4557-ed89-4a41-b404-065de9601ac1/logos/33b60ae1-5ae5-482e-a239-fd72cbfb9e0e.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[Louder Than Words, with T. Tara Turk-Haynes]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to the "theater kid to HR pro" persona, T. Tara Turk-Haynes spends equal time in both worlds. She's a playwright with an off-off-Broadway credit, a Van Lier Fellowship at New York Theatre Workshop, and a Lipkin Playwriting Award, and she's also spent decades doing transformative HR and DEI work in corporate spaces. For a long time, even as she juggled between them, she kept those worlds mentally separate. This episode is about why she stopped.</p><p></p><p>We get into what playwriting  teaches you about how to be successful in HR: how to sit with rejection without internalizing it, how to give feedback that people can hear instead of one that makes them defensive, and how to read a room well enough to know when the story you're telling isn't landing. Tara also opens up about the specific tax of doing this work as a Black woman - in both theater and corporate America  and how she's learned to fight those battles without becoming a character written by other people.</p><p></p><p>Highlights include:</p><p>🎭 Why playwriting builds a thicker skin than almost any other professional training<br />💡 The power of the reframe: "I am not for everyone AND everyone is not for me." <br />🪞Show, don't tell: what bad theater and bad leadership have in common<br />🤝 The "one slot" problem: how gatekeeping in  theater mirrors gatekeeping in HR<br />📚 Why impact outlives title, and what that means for how you measure your own success</p><p></p><p>Tara's not asking anyone to burn it all down. She's asking them to get specific, get strategic, and stop mistaking volume for effectiveness - actions speak louder than words.</p><p></p><p>Find her at equityactivations.com or as T. Tara Turk-Haynes all over the internet (except TikTok; we're done with that).</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5c470918-7a93-45e9-b876-abfb4079d185</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Rohrer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 21:09:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/2f43303a5e6b4e519104911a25a753f7414fe3117ad2f3e2b296950bee3097a5/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1YzQ3MDkxOC03YTkzLTQ1ZTktYjg3Ni1hYmZiNDA3OWQxODUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2NjNlNDU1Ny1lZDg5LTRhNDEtYjQwNC0wNjVkZTk2MDFhYzEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODZkNGY0M2Y4NTY0OWNiOGQ2MzJiZDAiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE0ZWQ1Yjc4MTVjNzMxYTllYjE4ZmMwL2tpbXMtc3R1ZGlvLVBZdkJ3LWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNy05X18wLTU2LTU1Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="123233741" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/663e4557-ed89-4a41-b404-065de9601ac1/episodes/5c470918-7a93-45e9-b876-abfb4079d185/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;When it comes to the &quot;theater kid to HR pro&quot; persona, T. Tara Turk-Haynes spends equal time in both worlds. She&apos;s a playwright with an off-off-Broadway credit, a Van Lier Fellowship at New York Theatre Workshop, and a Lipkin Playwriting Award, and she&apos;s also spent decades doing transformative HR and DEI work in corporate spaces. For a long time, even as she juggled between them, she kept those worlds mentally separate. This episode is about why she stopped.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We get into what playwriting  teaches you about how to be successful in HR: how to sit with rejection without internalizing it, how to give feedback that people can hear instead of one that makes them defensive, and how to read a room well enough to know when the story you&apos;re telling isn&apos;t landing. Tara also opens up about the specific tax of doing this work as a Black woman - in both theater and corporate America  and how she&apos;s learned to fight those battles without becoming a character written by other people.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Highlights include:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎭 Why playwriting builds a thicker skin than almost any other professional training&lt;br /&gt;💡 The power of the reframe: &quot;I am not for everyone AND everyone is not for me.&quot; &lt;br /&gt;🪞Show, don&apos;t tell: what bad theater and bad leadership have in common&lt;br /&gt;🤝 The &quot;one slot&quot; problem: how gatekeeping in  theater mirrors gatekeeping in HR&lt;br /&gt;📚 Why impact outlives title, and what that means for how you measure your own success&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tara&apos;s not asking anyone to burn it all down. She&apos;s asking them to get specific, get strategic, and stop mistaking volume for effectiveness - actions speak louder than words.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find her at equityactivations.com or as T. Tara Turk-Haynes all over the internet (except TikTok; we&apos;re done with that).&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:04:11</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/663e4557-ed89-4a41-b404-065de9601ac1/logos/33b60ae1-5ae5-482e-a239-fd72cbfb9e0e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Louder Than Words, with T. Tara Turk-Haynes</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Don't Lose UR Head, with Brittany Storie]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>🤩 Get ready, superstars, because Episode 2 of <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/#" target="_blank"><b>So Drama</b></a> is LIVE and it's an unhinged, slightly chaotic, educational, and emotional rollercoaster. Of course it is, because it's <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/#" target="_blank"><b>Brittany Storie</b></a> and I discussing:</p><p>- HR onstage</p><p>- HR as pit orchestra</p><p>- HR's backstage personality</p><p>- The musical SIX (with appropriate shoutouts to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/#" target="_blank"><b>Milly Parker</b></a>) and how each of Henry VIII's wives is a different HR Archetype. It's a full on Ted Talk, and Brittany came PREPARED.</p><p></p><p>We laughed. We cried. We laughed till we cried. We learned lessons about history and theater and work. And we remembered why any of this matters in the first place: diversity is only as good as the way you utilize your team's diverse skills, experiences, perspectives. Theater kids know that it takes a lot of different people to tell a story, from conception to reception. Good HR leaders know how to develop an org that plays to people's strengths. The skills, they are transferrable.</p><p></p><p>Take a listen.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7xjn5iWLMF8Z5pnWRK95AD?si=Is_PZBXzSW20Ue1WbvVyvA&amp;pi=S6yGlapnQwaVe&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=678441c3d5544e03" target="_blank">click here</a> to get Brittany's Spotify playlist inspired by this episode.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">72ce031f-662a-4537-8cae-a5aff34ddec0</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Rohrer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2026 21:29:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/bf96cf83cffafdd634a7995a70b57741f752816911e121d44959b46ce37c7096/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3MmNlMDMxZi02NjJhLTQ1MzctOGNhZS1hNWFmZjM0ZGRlYzAiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2NjNlNDU1Ny1lZDg5LTRhNDEtYjQwNC0wNjVkZTk2MDFhYzEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODZkNGY0M2Y4NTY0OWNiOGQ2MzJiZDAiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzNDU0MWRkNDUxYzQ5N2U5YWM4ZjdmL2tpbXMtc3R1ZGlvLVBZdkJ3LWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNi0xOF9fMjItMjUtMS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="125072761" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;🤩 Get ready, superstars, because Episode 2 of &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/feed/#&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;So Drama&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is LIVE and it&apos;s an unhinged, slightly chaotic, educational, and emotional rollercoaster. Of course it is, because it&apos;s &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/feed/#&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brittany Storie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and I discussing:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- HR onstage&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- HR as pit orchestra&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- HR&apos;s backstage personality&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- The musical SIX (with appropriate shoutouts to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/feed/#&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Milly Parker&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) and how each of Henry VIII&apos;s wives is a different HR Archetype. It&apos;s a full on Ted Talk, and Brittany came PREPARED.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We laughed. We cried. We laughed till we cried. We learned lessons about history and theater and work. And we remembered why any of this matters in the first place: diversity is only as good as the way you utilize your team&apos;s diverse skills, experiences, perspectives. Theater kids know that it takes a lot of different people to tell a story, from conception to reception. Good HR leaders know how to develop an org that plays to people&apos;s strengths. The skills, they are transferrable.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Take a listen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh, and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7xjn5iWLMF8Z5pnWRK95AD?si=Is_PZBXzSW20Ue1WbvVyvA&amp;amp;pi=S6yGlapnQwaVe&amp;amp;nd=1&amp;amp;dlsi=678441c3d5544e03&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt; to get Brittany&apos;s Spotify playlist inspired by this episode.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:05:08</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/663e4557-ed89-4a41-b404-065de9601ac1/logos/33b60ae1-5ae5-482e-a239-fd72cbfb9e0e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Don&apos;t Lose UR Head, with Brittany Storie</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[People Who Need People, with Kate Sargent]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Kate Sargent joins <i>So Drama</i> for our first episode, where we cover everything from the magic of recruiting to adventures with beard glue, from learning to "yes and" to coaching executives, and from making home movies to writing your own story.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">1dca4299-cfe2-4ed1-b18b-a870210d7c43</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Rohrer]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 18:42:19 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b9a27bde14074bc7704704b395498aed6b3feb976acd6cd078c1b6506ad4cb1d/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxZGNhNDI5OS1jZmUyLTRlZDEtYjE4Yi1hODcwMjEwZDdjNDMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI2NjNlNDU1Ny1lZDg5LTRhNDEtYjQwNC0wNjVkZTk2MDFhYzEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODZkNGY0M2Y4NTY0OWNiOGQ2MzJiZDAiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlkNjdlNDFlOGU4ZDdhZGM5NzY3Y2E0L2tpbXMtc3R1ZGlvLVBZdkJ3LWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC04X18xOC0xMS00NS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="102700242" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/663e4557-ed89-4a41-b404-065de9601ac1/episodes/1dca4299-cfe2-4ed1-b18b-a870210d7c43/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Kate Sargent joins &lt;i&gt;So Drama&lt;/i&gt; for our first episode, where we cover everything from the magic of recruiting to adventures with beard glue, from learning to &quot;yes and&quot; to coaching executives, and from making home movies to writing your own story.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:53:29</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/663e4557-ed89-4a41-b404-065de9601ac1/logos/33b60ae1-5ae5-482e-a239-fd72cbfb9e0e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>People Who Need People, with Kate Sargent</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>