<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Thauma Bonding]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Pull up a floor pillow, we're Thauma Bonding! Thauma is how the Greeks say raw childlike wonder. And it's no wonder this rhymes with trauma. Trauma is the lead to thauma's gold, the basic material we can transmute to transcend the pain we came in with, and the pain we collect and hold as we go along. ······· Hosted by Kerry Alan Snyder and Cody Lucas, we invite dear friends and wild minds to field the big questions, the hard ones, the cruxes of postmodern civilization. Each episode we wander around yet another way wounds can become wonder. ······· Our conversations range wide and deep, to the peaks, valleys, and fringes of consciousness, biology, ecology, economics, science, belief, technology, medicine, and bliss. ······· <a href="https://thauma.kerry.ink" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">Integrating Thauma</a> (https://thauma.kerry.ink) represents a companion treatise for these vital and timely explorations.</p>]]></description><link>https://thauma.kerry.ink</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2026 03:27:07 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/jhwdQbg8.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Kerry Alan Snyder]]></author><pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2026 18:27:43 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Kerry Alan Snyder]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Society & Culture]]></category><category><![CDATA[Philosophy]]></category><itunes:author>Kerry Alan Snyder</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Pull up a floor pillow, we&apos;re Thauma Bonding! Thauma is how the Greeks say raw childlike wonder. And it&apos;s no wonder this rhymes with trauma. Trauma is the lead to thauma&apos;s gold, the basic material we can transmute to transcend the pain we came in with, and the pain we collect and hold as we go along. ······· Hosted by Kerry Alan Snyder and Cody Lucas, we invite dear friends and wild minds to field the big questions, the hard ones, the cruxes of postmodern civilization. Each episode we wander around yet another way wounds can become wonder. ······· Our conversations range wide and deep, to the peaks, valleys, and fringes of consciousness, biology, ecology, economics, science, belief, technology, medicine, and bliss. ······· &lt;a href=&quot;https://thauma.kerry.ink&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;Integrating Thauma&lt;/a&gt; (https://thauma.kerry.ink) represents a companion treatise for these vital and timely explorations.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Kerry Alan Snyder</itunes:name><itunes:email>kerryourself@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Philosophy"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8ddce04f-4d28-414c-93a4-9dacd8a8fd0d/logos/b9941a7d-1a67-44c8-beaa-e50921ab246e.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[What Sets Us Apart?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Kerry (Ka'u, Hawai'i) and Cody Lucas (Alameda, CA) open Thauma Bonding with the first question of Integrating Thauma: what sets us apart?</p><p><br /></p><p>Cody offers the gift and trouble of abstract thought. Kerry lays out Alan Watts' three worldviews, and Cody follows non-duality home to the grandmothers and grandfathers we carry inside us. Along the way: a beach encounter with a man named Art, Charles Eisenstein's Story of Separation, and Kerry's 2018 DMT journey through nine dimensions, where the line of the day arrives: what sets us apart is the act of asking what sets us apart.</p><p><br /></p><p>Pain as a signal, hormesis, and the ladder from curiosity to wonder to gratitude to generosity to bliss follow. Kerry tells the story of Aset and a rainbow, sings two original songs, and talks with Cody about AI as an instrument for making music. Next week: desire, and what draws us.</p><p><br /></p><p>TIMESTAMPS</p><p>0:00 Welcome, how we're showing up</p><p>3:15 Root System and the question</p><p>4:43 Cody: the gift and trouble of abstraction</p><p>7:25 Watts' three worldviews: ceramic, dramatic, absurd</p><p>12:50 Non-duality and the ancestors inside us</p><p>19:16 Writing the Zuben Chronicles, grandmothers as muse</p><p>21:10 Art at Carl Smith Beach</p><p>26:44 The Story of Separation, identity vs. entity</p><p>31:02 The way back to unity</p><p>41:04 DMT journey: nine dimensions, the ball of yarn</p><p>47:53 "What sets us apart is the act of asking"</p><p>50:04 Sharing the transmission: book, fiction, Earth Song</p><p>52:14 Pain as a signal, how nature speaks</p><p>1:01:24 Hormesis, and why healing hurts</p><p>1:03:29 Curiosity, wonder, gratitude, generosity, bliss</p><p>1:06:50 Wetiko, the hungry ghost, egregores</p><p>1:11:09 Aset and the rainbow</p><p>1:17:39 Communion with source and the muse</p><p>1:23:55 Song: "Imagiro"</p><p>1:34:30 Singing the Tibetan Book of the Dead to the dying</p><p>1:35:32 Song: "Bow to the Mystery"</p><p>1:42:21 AI as an instrument: Suno and the drum machine</p><p>1:47:01 The face of wonder</p><p>1:51:17 Closing, and next week's topic: desire</p><p>1:53:25 Yessy, outro, invitations to musicians</p><p><br /></p><p>LINKS</p><p>Integrating Thauma: <a href="https://thauma.kerry.ink" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://thauma.kerry.ink</a></p><p>Yessy: <a href="https://yessy.kerry.ink" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://yessy.kerry.ink</a></p><p>Yessy on the App Store: <a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yessy/id6811156153" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yessy/id6811156153</a></p><p>The Zuben Chronicles: <a href="https://zuben.kerry.ink" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://zuben.kerry.ink</a></p><p>Substack, Kerry's Ink Inc: <a href="https://kerryourself.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://kerryourself.substack.com</a></p><p>KRRY 97.5 on Suno: <a href="https://suno.com/playlist/f63b96cf-43c5-4e42-aacb-23cbfd1e6b28?sh=ef8NZArVB6hcK4H1" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://suno.com/playlist/f63b96cf-43c5-4e42-aacb-23cbfd1e6b28?sh=ef8NZArVB6hcK4H1</a></p><p>Support the work on Venmo: <a href="https://venmo.com/u/kerryourself" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://venmo.com/u/kerryourself</a></p><p>Also mentioned: Alan Watts, Charles Eisenstein, Ram Dass (Be Here Now), Matías De Stefano, The Golden Ass, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Dao De Jing.</p><p>Be a guest: DM @kerryourself on Instagram.</p>]]></description><link>https://thauma.kerry.ink/podcast</link><guid isPermaLink="false">c9bd44db-3926-40c7-a5bf-d9f8a533a312</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kerry Alan Snyder]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 20:10:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/11a8a941dee16f5d64a7c280fc5200c7bed38b7ae50d468c557e8c7ae372b2c3/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJjOWJkNDRkYi0zOTI2LTQwYzctYTViZi1kOWY4YTUzM2EzMTIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4ZGRjZTA0Zi00ZDI4LTQxNGMtOTNhNC05ZGFjZDhhOGZkMGQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YWQxOTg4YTNkMGU3NGVkMzNiZjgyNTgiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFkMjkyMzU2YTUyYTVlMGNjYTFmYmFhL2tlcnJ5cy1zdHVkaW8tdHQ2a2stMjAyNi0xMC0xOV9fMjAtMTAtMzQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="225861111" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8ddce04f-4d28-414c-93a4-9dacd8a8fd0d/episodes/c9bd44db-3926-40c7-a5bf-d9f8a533a312/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Kerry (Ka&apos;u, Hawai&apos;i) and Cody Lucas (Alameda, CA) open Thauma Bonding with the first question of Integrating Thauma: what sets us apart?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cody offers the gift and trouble of abstract thought. Kerry lays out Alan Watts&apos; three worldviews, and Cody follows non-duality home to the grandmothers and grandfathers we carry inside us. Along the way: a beach encounter with a man named Art, Charles Eisenstein&apos;s Story of Separation, and Kerry&apos;s 2018 DMT journey through nine dimensions, where the line of the day arrives: what sets us apart is the act of asking what sets us apart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pain as a signal, hormesis, and the ladder from curiosity to wonder to gratitude to generosity to bliss follow. Kerry tells the story of Aset and a rainbow, sings two original songs, and talks with Cody about AI as an instrument for making music. Next week: desire, and what draws us.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;TIMESTAMPS&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;0:00 Welcome, how we&apos;re showing up&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3:15 Root System and the question&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4:43 Cody: the gift and trouble of abstraction&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;7:25 Watts&apos; three worldviews: ceramic, dramatic, absurd&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:50 Non-duality and the ancestors inside us&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;19:16 Writing the Zuben Chronicles, grandmothers as muse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;21:10 Art at Carl Smith Beach&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;26:44 The Story of Separation, identity vs. entity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;31:02 The way back to unity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;41:04 DMT journey: nine dimensions, the ball of yarn&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;47:53 &quot;What sets us apart is the act of asking&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;50:04 Sharing the transmission: book, fiction, Earth Song&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;52:14 Pain as a signal, how nature speaks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:01:24 Hormesis, and why healing hurts&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:03:29 Curiosity, wonder, gratitude, generosity, bliss&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:06:50 Wetiko, the hungry ghost, egregores&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:11:09 Aset and the rainbow&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:17:39 Communion with source and the muse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:23:55 Song: &quot;Imagiro&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:34:30 Singing the Tibetan Book of the Dead to the dying&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:35:32 Song: &quot;Bow to the Mystery&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:42:21 AI as an instrument: Suno and the drum machine&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:47:01 The face of wonder&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:51:17 Closing, and next week&apos;s topic: desire&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1:53:25 Yessy, outro, invitations to musicians&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;LINKS&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Integrating Thauma: &lt;a href=&quot;https://thauma.kerry.ink&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://thauma.kerry.ink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yessy: &lt;a href=&quot;https://yessy.kerry.ink&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://yessy.kerry.ink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yessy on the App Store: &lt;a href=&quot;https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yessy/id6811156153&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://apps.apple.com/us/app/yessy/id6811156153&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Zuben Chronicles: &lt;a href=&quot;https://zuben.kerry.ink&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://zuben.kerry.ink&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Substack, Kerry&apos;s Ink Inc: &lt;a href=&quot;https://kerryourself.substack.com&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://kerryourself.substack.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;KRRY 97.5 on Suno: &lt;a href=&quot;https://suno.com/playlist/f63b96cf-43c5-4e42-aacb-23cbfd1e6b28?sh=ef8NZArVB6hcK4H1&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://suno.com/playlist/f63b96cf-43c5-4e42-aacb-23cbfd1e6b28?sh=ef8NZArVB6hcK4H1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Support the work on Venmo: &lt;a href=&quot;https://venmo.com/u/kerryourself&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://venmo.com/u/kerryourself&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Also mentioned: Alan Watts, Charles Eisenstein, Ram Dass (Be Here Now), Matías De Stefano, The Golden Ass, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the Dao De Jing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Be a guest: DM @kerryourself on Instagram.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:57:38</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8ddce04f-4d28-414c-93a4-9dacd8a8fd0d/logos/b9941a7d-1a67-44c8-beaa-e50921ab246e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>What Sets Us Apart?</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>