In this episode, Gary makes the case for effectiveness over performance, and explains why the difference matters. Why efficiency belongs on the factory floor but has zero place in ideation. Why performance reviews are a myth we tell ourselves. And why rewards should work like modern cybersecurity: personalized to one, not averaged across thousands.

He also breaks down the real choice every company now faces between people, tech, and assets, from Walmart's 2.2 million employees to two guys running a billion-dollar business on AI agents. And he explains why he thinks young workers aren't a new generation, but a new species, with two thirds already looking for their next job the day they start one.

Work, Measured is hosted by Imran Syed, founder and CEO of Hatchproof. 25 minutes on performance, culture, and the future of work. New episodes on Fridays.

Victoria and Imran get into why we still run careers on a model built 100 years ago. Why 91% of over-50s want to progress, not wind down. Why businesses started by people over 50 outlast those started by younger founders. What happens to your identity when the title disappears, and why Imran's dad, still working at 80, says he wants to die standing up.

They also get into AI, and Victoria's case that hallucinating models have made experienced judgment more valuable, not less.

Victoria's new book, Expiry Date Never: Age Is the New Superpower, is out now.

Work, Measured is hosted by Imran Syed, founder and CEO of Hatchproof, and behavioral scientist Dr. Nick Hobson. 25 minutes on performance, culture, and the future of work.

Oliver Armstrong joins Work, Measured to share how his time in Marine Corps intelligence shaped the way he thinks about people, information, leadership, and decision making.

We talk about why more experience does not always mean better talent, how to find the “diamonds in the rough” when you cannot compete on compensation, and why having more data and AI does not automatically lead to better decisions.

We also get into the talent opportunity created by today’s tech layoffs, what founders should look for when building 0 to 1 teams, and how to balance experienced leaders with people who simply have the potential to be exceptional.

At its core, this is a conversation about finding signal in the noise and recognizing great people before everyone else does.

Meg McWilliams joins Work, Measured to explore why people are craving in-person connection again, what happens when we remove the small moments of friction that build trust and belonging, and why AI might actually help us become more human, not less.

From film and immersive experiences to gaming communities and now Mixies, Meg has spent her career thinking about what brings people together. We talk about the resurgence of IRL experiences, the social cost of an increasingly digital world, generational shifts in how we connect, and what leaders should be thinking about as AI reshapes work.

And yes, we get into why you should never let anyone kill your “fart around” moments.

The discussion examines how AI influences employees’ sense of competence, autonomy, and relatedness, and offers practical guidance on implementing AI in a psychologically supportive way. It also explores how companies can build “AI-proof” skills like creativity and ethics — and what they must do now to avoid losing top talent in the AI-driven future.

Dr. Tatijana Busic breaks down why resistance to change isn't a character flaw — it's brain biology. Our fear centers aren't designed for chronic activation, and the speed of AI-era change is pushing people into reactive survival mode. She reveals why she turns down resilience training engagements when the executive team isn't doing the work themselves, and why humans succeed not because we're the smartest species, but because we're the best copycats. Together, they make the case that the organizations who win won't be the ones with the best AI — they'll be the ones who remember that people are still the greatest thing they'll ever build.

Margie breaks down why courage isn't a personality trait but a learnable skill, how the most successful founders she's met — including Richard Branson — didn't avoid failure but changed their relationship with it, and what it takes to scale a courage mindset across teams and organizations.

Howie breaks down the framework every employee should use to evaluate their role: fair compensation, interesting work, trust in your team, and opportunities for growth. He shares practical advice on how to thrive in your organization by going above and beyond (without burning out), the traits that separate high performers from everyone else, and why having a bad manager might actually be one of the best learning experiences of your career.

We also dive into the realities of modern work culture—from the distorted expectations social media creates for Gen Z employees to the ongoing tension between remote work and in-person collaboration. Howie reveals what he really looks for when hiring, how to differentiate yourself in interviews, and why dressing the part and embodying the role before you get promoted is crucial.

Whether you're navigating your current job, considering a move, or trying to figure out how to advance your career, this episode is packed with actionable insights from someone who's managed hundreds of people across Citi, Oracle, and Publicis.

Now a communications and confidence coach, Kim breaks down how to identify what's really holding you back — imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, or fear of failure — and why desire has to outweigh the fear for anything to change. They also dig into why your boss matters more than your job, how companies keep losing parents from the workforce, and why in an AI-saturated world, your humanity is the only real differentiator left.

Mark Cruth, Atlassian's Head of Team Anywhere, has coached teams at Boeing, Nordstrom, and now one of the world's most distributed companies. In this episode, he reveals why the real culprits are transformation theater, lack of psychological safety, and unsustainable work cultures that push your best people toward the exit.

We discuss:

• Why "we need to transform NOW" mindsets actually drive talent away
• The early warning signs that your company's way of working has become unsustainable
• How lack of clear storytelling causes teams to wander in different directions (and eventually leave)
• What happens to retention when psychological safety disappears
• The biggest shift in how we work that will determine who keeps talent over the next 3-5 years

If you're wondering why your top performers are quietly job searching, this conversation will give you the answers your exit interviews won't.