<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Horsemen]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>The Horsemen</b> is what happens when four pastors sit down for a quick chat and completely forget where the main point went. Equal parts theology, candid friendship, and unscripted tangents, this is a show about loving Jesus, serving the church, and genuinely loving people without taking ourselves too seriously. We are here to disrupt the status quo, challenge tired paradigms, and remind you that faith can be both deeply meaningful and deeply fun. Tune in for honest conversations, unexpected detours, and a raw look at life, ministry, and brotherhood.</p>]]></description><link>https://riverside.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 18:17:52 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/hFsihXnS.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Matthew West, Dakota Leming, Curtis Ashmore, Jacob Nicoletti]]></author><pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2026 18:28:28 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Matthew West, Dakota Leming, Curtis Ashmore, Jacob Nicoletti]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Hobbies]]></category><category><![CDATA[Christianity]]></category><itunes:author>Matthew West, Dakota Leming, Curtis Ashmore, Jacob Nicoletti</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Horsemen&lt;/b&gt; is what happens when four pastors sit down for a quick chat and completely forget where the main point went. Equal parts theology, candid friendship, and unscripted tangents, this is a show about loving Jesus, serving the church, and genuinely loving people without taking ourselves too seriously. We are here to disrupt the status quo, challenge tired paradigms, and remind you that faith can be both deeply meaningful and deeply fun. Tune in for honest conversations, unexpected detours, and a raw look at life, ministry, and brotherhood.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Matthew West, Dakota Leming, Curtis Ashmore, Jacob Nicoletti</itunes:name><itunes:email>pastrmatt@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Leisure"><itunes:category text="Hobbies"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Religion &amp; Spirituality"><itunes:category text="Christianity"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/f363d17d-96c0-4414-9c82-0686035f9cd1/logos/5a3773e0-aea1-4d38-a321-0c8382eb9737.jpeg"/><item><title><![CDATA[Nepotism The Good, The Bad, I'm Calling Dad]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Takeaways</p><ul><li>Nepotism can have positive and negative implications</li><li>Favoritism can be seen as a form of nepotism Nepotism in church leadership</li><li>Qualifications for church leadership Competency over connections</li><li>Faithfulness in one's calling</li></ul><p></p><p>Chapters</p><ul><li>00:00 Setting the Stage</li><li>02:16 Exploring Nepotism</li><li>16:25 Nepotism in the Secular World</li><li>27:29 Nepotism in Church Leadership</li><li>50:58 Qualifications for Church Leadership</li><li>54:02 The Pastoral Epistles: Emphasizing Character and Giftings</li><li>55:36 Nepotism and Leadership</li><li>58:36 The Impact of Nepotism on Churchgoers</li><li>01:03:06 God's Sovereignty and Predestination</li><li>01:15:36 Encouragement and Faithfulness</li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">a3741e0c-9c84-43dc-b6e3-a063d6cddcaf</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew West, Dakota Leming, Curtis Ashmore, Jacob Nicoletti]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 21:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/46ea2ea348f63b332cbf80630cf31d143bdfada13f802d721371880b5bcdf5c4/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhMzc0MWUwYy05Yzg0LTQzZGMtYjZlMy1hMDYzZDZjZGRjYWYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmMzYzZDE3ZC05NmMwLTQ0MTQtOWM4Mi0wNjg2MDM1ZjljZDEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTg4ODdmNWJlYzczNzczYWZjM2E0NTkiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE5NjExNmZkY2E2NTU2ODg4ODc2ODhhL3Bhc3RybWF0dC13ZXN0cy1zdHVkaW8tY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi05LTFfXzEtNDItMzkubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="141782770" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/f363d17d-96c0-4414-9c82-0686035f9cd1/episodes/a3741e0c-9c84-43dc-b6e3-a063d6cddcaf/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Takeaways&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nepotism can have positive and negative implications&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Favoritism can be seen as a form of nepotism Nepotism in church leadership&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Qualifications for church leadership Competency over connections&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Faithfulness in one&apos;s calling&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;00:00 Setting the Stage&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;02:16 Exploring Nepotism&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;16:25 Nepotism in the Secular World&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;27:29 Nepotism in Church Leadership&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;50:58 Qualifications for Church Leadership&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;54:02 The Pastoral Epistles: Emphasizing Character and Giftings&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;55:36 Nepotism and Leadership&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;58:36 The Impact of Nepotism on Churchgoers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;01:03:06 God&apos;s Sovereignty and Predestination&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;01:15:36 Encouragement and Faithfulness&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:13:51</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/f363d17d-96c0-4414-9c82-0686035f9cd1/logos/5a3773e0-aea1-4d38-a321-0c8382eb9737.jpeg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Nepotism The Good, The Bad, I&apos;m Calling Dad</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Episode 1:
 Quantifying Leadership Ability]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p># The Four Horsemen: Disrupting the Status Quo<br /><br /></p><blockquote><p>Exploring faith and fun with the Four Horsemen of Michigan.</p></blockquote><p><br /><br />Welcome to the inaugural episode of our podcast featuring the Four Horsemen from Michigan! Join Matthew West, Jacob Nicoletti, Curtis Ashmore, and Dakota Lemming as they delve into meaningful conversations that blend humor, faith, and current events.<br /><br />## Introduction to the Four Horsemen<br />The podcast kicks off with an introduction to the group, affectionately known as the "Four Horsemen." Matthew shares,  <br /></p><blockquote><p>"It's good to finally be able to do this. We've been talking about it for a long time."</p></blockquote><p><br />This light-hearted banter sets the tone for a relaxed yet profound discussion.<br /><br />## The Origins of the Name<br />The group reflects on how they acquired their name during a camp last year. Jacob asks,  <br /></p><blockquote><p>"Where exactly did the Four Horsemen name come from?"  </p></blockquote><p><br />Dakota humorously recalls their attempts to identify which horseman each of them represents, which remains an ongoing mystery.<br /><br />## Disrupting the Status Quo<br />As they settle into deeper topics, Matthew emphasizes their mission:  <br /></p><blockquote><p>"We like to push the status quo to disrupt what most people think is the easy way to go."</p></blockquote><p><br />This mission is rooted in scripture and aims to encourage each other and their listeners.<br /><br />## Current Events and Faith<br />Curtis shares his reflections from scripture, particularly from Second Timothy, highlighting God's grace amid chaos:  <br /></p><blockquote><p>"In the midst of division... we've been appointed to a calling to shepherd a flock of people in our brokenness."</p></blockquote><p><br />The discussion touches on pressing social issues in Michigan, encouraging a blend of faith and action in uncertain times.<br /><br />## A Lighthearted Conclusion<br />As the conversation wraps up, Matthew lightens the mood with jokes about their dynamic, reminding listeners that amidst serious discussions, there is always room for laughter and camaraderie.  <br /></p><blockquote><p>"If we're to choose a horseman, maybe he's Death because he's that much closer!"</p></blockquote><p><br /><br />This podcast not only addresses serious themes but does so with a sense of community and humor, making it relatable and engaging.<br /><br />As you listen to the full episode, consider how you can reflect on your own journey amid life's chaos and uncertainties. Join us in this exploration of faith, fun, and the importance of community.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">565a99d2-146c-437e-a856-cb4cbccf3c07</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew West, Dakota Leming, Curtis Ashmore, Jacob Nicoletti]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2026 14:42:05 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/9a3dd0e9c65066ecbf525c2f68ba2b54f6e8c7f8d25a060069e469f758634388/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1NjVhOTlkMi0xNDZjLTQzN2UtYTg1Ni1jYjRjYmNjZjNjMDciLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmMzYzZDE3ZC05NmMwLTQ0MTQtOWM4Mi0wNjg2MDM1ZjljZDEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTg4ODdmNWJlYzczNzczYWZjM2E0NTkiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE4OGViYmJiODU4ZjdiOWE1MTA5MWJhL3Bhc3RybWF0dC13ZXN0cy1zdHVkaW8tY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi04LTIyX18yLTIyLTE5Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="115436295" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/f363d17d-96c0-4414-9c82-0686035f9cd1/episodes/565a99d2-146c-437e-a856-cb4cbccf3c07/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;# The Four Horsemen: Disrupting the Status Quo&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Exploring faith and fun with the Four Horsemen of Michigan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Welcome to the inaugural episode of our podcast featuring the Four Horsemen from Michigan! Join Matthew West, Jacob Nicoletti, Curtis Ashmore, and Dakota Lemming as they delve into meaningful conversations that blend humor, faith, and current events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;## Introduction to the Four Horsemen&lt;br /&gt;The podcast kicks off with an introduction to the group, affectionately known as the &quot;Four Horsemen.&quot; Matthew shares,  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;It&apos;s good to finally be able to do this. We&apos;ve been talking about it for a long time.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This light-hearted banter sets the tone for a relaxed yet profound discussion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;## The Origins of the Name&lt;br /&gt;The group reflects on how they acquired their name during a camp last year. Jacob asks,  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;Where exactly did the Four Horsemen name come from?&quot;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dakota humorously recalls their attempts to identify which horseman each of them represents, which remains an ongoing mystery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;## Disrupting the Status Quo&lt;br /&gt;As they settle into deeper topics, Matthew emphasizes their mission:  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;We like to push the status quo to disrupt what most people think is the easy way to go.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This mission is rooted in scripture and aims to encourage each other and their listeners.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;## Current Events and Faith&lt;br /&gt;Curtis shares his reflections from scripture, particularly from Second Timothy, highlighting God&apos;s grace amid chaos:  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;In the midst of division... we&apos;ve been appointed to a calling to shepherd a flock of people in our brokenness.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The discussion touches on pressing social issues in Michigan, encouraging a blend of faith and action in uncertain times.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;## A Lighthearted Conclusion&lt;br /&gt;As the conversation wraps up, Matthew lightens the mood with jokes about their dynamic, reminding listeners that amidst serious discussions, there is always room for laughter and camaraderie.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;If we&apos;re to choose a horseman, maybe he&apos;s Death because he&apos;s that much closer!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This podcast not only addresses serious themes but does so with a sense of community and humor, making it relatable and engaging.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you listen to the full episode, consider how you can reflect on your own journey amid life&apos;s chaos and uncertainties. Join us in this exploration of faith, fun, and the importance of community.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:00:07</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/f363d17d-96c0-4414-9c82-0686035f9cd1/logos/5a3773e0-aea1-4d38-a321-0c8382eb9737.jpeg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Episode 1:
 Quantifying Leadership Ability</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>