2 Gay Dads

Classroom Confessions

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 28 Oct 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Jason and Nate are back after two busy weeks: Jason is traveling again, there was a Masonic open installation in DC, and the whole family dressed up for the Renaissance Festival.Then it's off to Lizzy's first parent-teacher conference. They expected to hear they were "screwing up as parents." Instead they got a student-led conversation, goals Lizzy set for herself, and a surprise about how neat she keeps her school supplies compared to her bedroom. They also talk about school counseling access and why they feel validated in their decision about Lizzy's kindergarten year.This week's Letter from a Listener comes from Nervous in Nashville, who is struggling with election anxiety. Jason and Nate share how they cope: find an outlet, vote, limit the news, plan without letting fear take over, and remember you're not alone. They also talk about talking to kids about a tense moment.The episode ends with dad fails, small joys and Halloween plans.New to the show? Subscribe, leave a comment, and watch us on Apple Podcasts, now with video.

Who's The Favorite Dad?

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 14 Oct 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Parenting gets weird when your six-year-old has a favorite parent, school thinks one of you is always the problem, and a simple mall trip turns into a full-blown moral debate. Jason Brunner-Burns and Nathaniel A. Brunner-Burns turn a chaotic week into a hilarious, painfully relatable conversation about the roles couples fall into, what kids actually notice, and why “fun dad” and “caretaker dad” are both doing essential work.The episode starts with a brutally honest check-in: board week, family visits, a new bi-weekly schedule, and the constant juggling act of school emails, calendars, and kid logistics. Then the real chaos hits when Lizzy gets in trouble for hugging her school boyfriend, forcing Jason and Nate to wrestle with the early signs of growing up, affection, boundaries, and the very real fear of what the teen years might bring.You'll hear them break down a listener letter from a dad in Chicago who feels like his husband has become the kid’s favorite parent, while he’s stuck doing the invisible work. Jason and Nate get into the caretaker vs. playmate dynamic, why kids rotate between parents depending on what they need, and how appreciation, structure, fun, and discipline all matter more than who gets the most bedtime points.They also play a rapid-fire “which one of us is more likely to...” game that becomes a surprisingly revealing inventory of their marriage, from forgetting school events and losing phones to getting manipulated by a six-year-old and being the one most likely to embarrass Lizzy in public. It’s funny, self-aware, and just messy enough to feel completely true.Then comes the dad fail of the week. Nate recounts a mall meltdown over a squishy toy that ends with a tired kid, a frazzled parent, and a reminder that sometimes the best parenting move is stepping in with calm when everything is sideways. Jason follows with his own dance-class disaster, complete with backwards shirts, mismatched outfits, and the kind of small mistake that turns into a 15-minute standoff if you let it.Perfect for anyone parenting with a partner, figuring out family roles, or just looking for an episode that mixes real insight with the kind of sibling-level trash talk only two gay dads can deliver. If you love honest parenting stories with actual stakes, this one’s for you.Jason Brunner-Burns and Nathaniel A. Brunner-Burns host Two Gay Dads, where they tackle parenting chaos, relationship dynamics, and the everyday absurdity of raising a kid with humor and heart.

Did You Miss Us?

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Four weeks, one chaotic work schedule, and a household running on pure survival mode - Jason and Nate are finally back, and they’re not sugarcoating what happens when one parent is traveling nonstop while the other is holding down the fort. If you’ve ever wondered how much absence a marriage and a kid can absorb before the whole system starts to creak, this one will feel very real.Jason’s work travel has been relentless, Nate’s been managing the emotional and logistical load at home, and Lizzy is in the middle of a huge adjustment: new school, new routines, new expectations, and a lot of apps. The result is a candid look at what it takes to keep a family functioning when life gets messy, schedules break down, and everyone is just trying to get through the week.You’ll hear them break down:

how routines can stabilize a kid who craves structure
why constant school communication feels like a second job
the hidden strain of being the parent who “keeps the home fires burning”
what happens when a marriage starts feeling more like a coworker relationship than a partnership
how boundaries around texts, email, and after-hours communication can protect your sanity

Nate opens up about a rough stretch with his mental health and the changes he’s making to reclaim some breathing room, while Jason reflects on the toll of being away, the guilt that comes with travel, and why honest conversations at home matter more than pretending everything is fine. They also get into practical fixes that actually help, from Sunday family meetings to date nights and phone-free evenings.Jason and Nate are the voices behind Two Gay Dads, a show about parenting, marriage, family life, and the chaos in between. In this episode, Jason brings the perspective of the parent who’s been on the road, while Nate shares the reality of running the house, managing school logistics, and trying to keep everyone afloat with a six-year-old who needs structure and a spouse who’s often in another city.This conversation is for anyone juggling kids, careers, travel, and the quiet fear that closeness has been replaced by logistics. It’s honest, funny, and surprisingly practical - a reset for couples who need to remember they’re still on the same team. Plus, there are dad fails, a listener letter that hits way too close to home, and one very strong opinion about Great Wolf Lodge.

An Apology

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 23 Sep 2026 00:56:43 GMT

Four Weeks Away, 37 Hours Home

After four weeks and eight states on the road, Jason is back with the real reason Two Gay Dads disappeared: he was home for only 37 hours.In this quick and honest catch-up, Jason shares the travel chaos, exhaustion, family time, and the decision to pause the podcast rather than record on empty. Plus, he talks about returning home, a pumpkin patch outing, Great Wolf Lodge, and the everyday parenting moments that made the break worthwhile.

Us Before We Were Parents

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 26 Aug 2026 10:00:00 GMT

What if the biggest threat to your relationship isn’t fighting—but functioning?

In this heartfelt and candid episode of Two Gay Dads, Jason and Nathaniel explore what happens when a marriage slowly turns into a calendar-management system: schedules, school forms, groceries, chores, finances, and bedtime—everything gets done, except having a real conversation.

Inspired by a listener question from Chad in Milwaukee, they talk honestly about finding your way back to your partner after children, without pretending you can—or should—return to who you were before parenthood. They discuss the grief that comes with changing identities, the importance of small moments of connection, love languages, emotional and physical intimacy, household labor, gratitude, family rejection, relationship expectations, and the intentional conversations that can keep couples from drifting apart.

With plenty of vulnerability, humor, and a classic Papa fail involving a forgotten dance class, Jason and Nathaniel offer a simple challenge: make time for an uninterrupted conversation with your partner and ask, “What are you not getting that you need from me?”

Because reconnecting doesn’t always require a grand gesture. Sometimes, it starts with thirty undistracted minutes—and the choice to find each other again.

Famlies Define Themselves

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 19 Aug 2026 10:00:00 GMT

In this episode, Jason and Nate reflect on the overwhelming response to last week’s conversation with Frankie and BJ, and unpack what their viral photo says about visibility, privacy, and the power — and risk — of sharing family stories online. They respond to listener questions about how to talk to kids who feel different, how to handle staring and public curiosity, and whether adoption or surrogacy makes one path to parenthood more “legitimate” than another. Along the way, they open up about parenting challenges, the emotional adjustment of Lizzy’s second year of kindergarten, the frustrating reality of trying to access mental health care, and a very cheesy dad fail. Honest, funny, and heartfelt, this episode is a reminder that families come in many forms — and that love, not a template, is what makes them real.

Built on Love

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 12 Aug 2026 10:00:00 GMT

What does it mean to build a family on your own terms? In this heartfelt episode of Two Gay Dads, Jason and Nate sit down with Toronto-based dads Frankie and BJ, whose journey to parenthood is a powerful story of love, resilience, and hope.

Together for 16 years, Frankie and BJ share how they met, navigated addiction recovery, discovered surrogacy, and welcomed their son Milo—born during Toronto’s WorldPride in 2014. A deeply moving photo of the moment they first met their baby went viral around the world, inspiring countless LGBTQ+ families. Years later, that same image was used without their permission in an anti-surrogacy and anti-gay political campaign, prompting Frankie and BJ to fight back.

The conversation explores partnership, patience, raising a child with intention, setting boundaries around social media, traveling the world as a two-dad family, and the importance of visibility. At its heart is a simple but powerful message: there’s no single template for family. Family is about love.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

Frankie and BJ’s nearly two-decade love story
Their path to parenthood through surrogacy
The unforgettable photo that became known as the “Pride Baby” image
Turning a painful political attack into advocacy
Parenting, patience, and raising their son Milo
Traveling as an LGBTQ+ family
Why representation and authenticity matter

Tune in for an inspiring conversation about love, courage, and the families we create.

The Surprising Power of Belonging in Kids’ School Success

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 05 Aug 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Most parents face the emotional rollercoaster of the first day of school—it's nerve-wracking, exciting, and full of unknowns. But for LGBTQ+ families, that milestone comes with an added layer: questions about visibility, acceptance, and safe belonging. In this heartfelt episode, Jason and Nate share their own journey navigating starting school as a same-sex family, revealing the thoughtful conversations, unexpected challenges, and joyful moments along the way.From approaching teachers about family stories to advocating for inclusive classrooms, this episode offers concrete strategies for building supportive school communities that celebrate all kinds of families. You'll discover how to foster open dialogue with educators, reinforce your child's identity, and create safe spaces where they can thrive—and how to do it all without feeling overwhelmed or exposed. They break down actionable tips like sharing family narratives on the first day, choosing identity-affirming books, and connecting with community resources that support diverse families.But it’s not just about the logistics—this conversation sparks a deeper look at the importance of belonging. What happens when your child feels different or isolated? How can caregivers help them navigate those feelings with confidence and pride? Jason and Nate emphasize the vital role of authentic communication, community, and simple, age-appropriate responses that reinforce love and acceptance. They remind us that every step we take to foster inclusion offers our children a foundation of resilience and self-worth.Whether you're a seasoned LGBTQ+ parent or just starting to think about how to give your child the best possible school experience, this episode is essential listening. It blends relatable humor with practical advice, ensuring you feel less alone and more empowered in your advocacy. Creating inclusive, welcoming schools isn’t just a goal—it’s a shared responsibility, one child at a time.

Hosts Jason Brunner-Burns and Nate Brunner-Burns are experienced parents and advocates who share their personal stories and insights. They bring a warm, relatable voice to complicated topics, making this episode both inspiring and actionable.

Parenting Through Meltdowns

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 29 Jul 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Parenting Meltdowns, Pride in Family, and Fighting Back Against Harmful Slogans — our latest episode digs deep into what it truly means to raise resilient, proud kids in a world that’s still fighting to accept all types of families.

When a simple bike outing turns into a neighborhood scare, we reveal how everyday moments highlight the importance of teaching independence and safety, even when it’s uncomfortable. Plus, we tackle tough questions from listeners expecting their first child, sharing our biggest lessons on navigating curiosity, boundaries, and the importance of visible pride for queer families.In this episode, Jason and Nate share the raw realities of managing big feelings in young children — from tantrums fueled by dysregulation to the balance of gentle and consequence-based parenting. You'll discover how to affirm your family’s love and diversity, no matter how society tries to simplify or shame it. We break down the impact of recent anti-LGBTQ billboards that dismiss our families and explain why standing tall, being out, and teaching resilience is more critical than ever. We also explore how strangers’ questions—like “who's the mom?”—are really opportunities to be quiet advocates. Jason and Nate discuss how sharing our pride and setting boundaries helps shape confident kids who see their uniqueness as strength. Plus, we FIGHT back against misleading slogans about families, emphasizing that every child deserves respect and love, regardless of how their family looks. Ideal for LGBTQ+ parents, allies, and anyone determined to build a more inclusive future, this episode invites you to celebrate the diverse, beautiful realities of family and community. If you're committed to raising leaders, teaching resilience, and challenging harmful narratives, this is your go-to listen. Join us as we reflect on the small victories and big battles shaping the next generation—because our families are not just real; they are vital.

Prepare to feel inspired, validated, and ready to stand tall — because your family’s story matters.

Don't miss out—hit play now and be part of the movement to normalize all families, one conversation at a time.

New House New Chaos

B Squared Media LLC — Wed, 22 Jul 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Moving cross-country with a kid is chaos wrapped in a rollercoaster—and juggling it all can feel like an impossible feat. In this season two premiere, Jason and Nate pull back the curtain on their recent wild move, sharing the real, raw struggles behind the scenes and the unexpected joys that come with building a new life. From hoisting furniture over balconies to navigating toddler emotions, they reveal how honesty, humor, and a dash of patience keep them moving forward—and how you can do the same. In this episode, you'll discover practical tips for managing the emotional toll of uprooting your family and turning stressful moments into memorable milestones. Jason shares his lessons learned in downsizing, dealing with moving companies, and the importance of involving your child in the process—making goodbyes meaningful and new spaces feel like home. Nate offers insights on balancing logistics and mental health, including how to keep humor alive amid chaos, and the value of leaning on friends when the unpacking gets overwhelming.We break down:

How to involve your kids in saying farewell to their old home in a way that eases their transition
Strategies for handling late-night frustrations and unexpected setbacks, like damaged furniture or missed deadlines
Creative ways to make moving fun for kids, from shopping for decor together to celebrating their new space with silly traditions
Why making space for honesty and emotional expression helps parents and children adapt faster and happier
The importance of building community and asking for help when the stress peaks

Why does all this matter? Because moving with a family is one of life's most demanding projects—and doing it with humor and heart turns it into a story you'll look back on with pride. The lessons shared in this episode empower you to face your next move—big or small—with confidence, resilience, and a few laughs along the way. Perfect for parents in the midst of a move, those planning their first cross-country transition, or anyone who’s ever felt overwhelmed by change, this episode offers real talk and practical insights you won’t find elsewhere. Tune in, and discover how to turn chaos into new beginnings—because you’re not alone, and you’ve got this.

Pride and Resilence

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 08 Jun 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Two Gay Dads' Season One Finale: Pride, Love, and Resilience

Get ready to feel seen, inspired, and empowered! In this bold season finale, Jason and Nate share raw stories, heartfelt reflections, and fierce calls to action that remind us all of our power and purpose. This isn’t just an episode—it's a rally cry for love, authenticity, and community.

Main insights:

The emotional rollercoaster of moving with a young child and how to support big feelings in kids
Personal coming out stories—how early truths shape us and how acceptance unfolds over time
The impact of role models, representation, and visibility on LGBTQ+ youth, especially in small towns
Reflecting on iconic Pride moments pre- and post-Lizzy, from parades to personal memories
The importance of celebrating queer culture, drag, rainbow flags, and our unique identities
The ongoing fight for rights: why Pride is a protest, not just a parade
The dangerous efforts to silence or marginalize LGBTQ+ voices—FCC ratings, anti-LGBTQ laws, and political rhetoric
How history, resilience, and community have always carried us forward, despite attempts to erase us
The urgent need to keep fighting for protections, equality, and recognition
The power of small acts of activism, visibility, and kindness in creating change

Resources & Links:

Rainbow Flags – Symbol of Pride and representation
FCC Public Notice on LGBTQ Programming Ratings – Important advocacy info
Support for Trans Rights – How to get involved and support

This episode is a love letter to our community

—a reminder of where we've been, where we're going, and how we will continue to fight, celebrate, and love out loud. Happy Pride, everyone. We are worthy, we are loved, and we are here to stay!

The Surprising Truth About Being LGBTQ+ on a Family Cruise—And Why It

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 01 Jun 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Buckle up, because this episode hits straight to the core of what it means to truly live, love, and navigate the wild ride of parenthood and life’s transitions. From the magic of Disney cruises to the raw honesty about moving and redefining patriotism, these two gay dads lay it all out — with passion, authenticity, and a whole lot of heart.

In this episode:

The joy and chaos of their latest Disney cruise experience, including touching moments and unforgettable memories
How they navigated being LGBT parents in a welcoming environment and the importance of support from cast members
The significance of focusing on family, closure, and creating new memories during their upcoming move
A candid discussion on patriotism, representation, and the current political climate
Inspiring stories of community support, resilience, and standing up against hate
The power of fearlessness and how their daughter is teaching them to embrace life boldly
Exciting plans for future travels, adventures, and new chapters in a big city

Resources & Links:

Disney Cruise Line Official
Ratatouille French Restaurant on Disney Cruise, for an unforgettable dining experience

Connect with the Guests & Hosts:

Nathaniel & Jason — Instagram | Twitter | Facebook
Lizzy’s journey to fearless childhood — Watch and follow her adventures!

Special Note:

Gear up for season two starting July 20 — great content, honest stories, and more unapologetic love. Hit subscribe, so you never miss the magic. This episode is an anthem for love, belonging, and brave new beginnings.

Remember, friends: your voice matters. Your story is powerful. Speak up, show up, and keep love at the center.

The Radical Truth About Love, Family, and Destroying Hate Online

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 18 May 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Boldly Coming Out: Embracing Your Authentic Self and Honoring Our Community

This episode hits home with raw honesty, powerful storytelling, and unapologetic bravery. Join us as we share personal stories, dive into the importance of representation, and pay tribute to trailblazers like Jason Collins who inspire us all to live our truth. This is about more than holidays; it’s about standing tall in who we are.

In this episode:

How our family redefines Mother’s Day as “Papa’s Day” to honor our love and identity
The emotional journey of making holidays feel authentic and inclusive
Exploring the significance of “Significant Women’s Day” and expanding celebration beyond traditional roles
Practical advice for LGBTQ+ families on navigating mainstream holidays authentically
The power of community and visibility—highlighting Jason Collins’ legacy
Addressing online hate and why kindness is the real revolution
Lessons from Lizzy’s “standard time” parenting style
The story of Two-Spirit advocacy and the importance of cultural preservation
Honoring Jason Collins: a hero who embodied courage and authenticity in sports and beyond

Resources & Links:

Connect with us:

2 Gay Dads – YouTube | Instagram | Facebook
Nathaniel - Facebook| Instagram
Jason - Facebook| Instagram

This episode is a call to authenticity, resilience, and kindness. We share our truths and honor those like Jason Collins whose courage has changed the world. Together, let’s celebrate love in all its forms and continue the fight for a more inclusive, compassionate society. Because at the end of the day, living loudly and living true is what truly matters. Walk proud. Be bold. The world needs your light.

The Hidden Challenges Queer Families Face—and the Simple Strategies That Empower Them

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 11 May 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Supporting queer families: Insights from Sam Leeson, podcast host and advocate for inclusive family buildingIn this episode, we sit down with Sam Leeson, a queer doula, family wellness specialist, and founder of Baby Ready, to explore the nuances of supporting LGBTQIA+ families through fertility, birth, and parenting. Sam shares invaluable insights on trauma, advocacy, and how community and storytelling empower the next generation of queer parents.Key topics:

The evolution of family-building resources for queer communities, and the lack of representation in commercial spaces.
The profound importance of storytelling and community support in navigating family creation.
How social media creates vital connections and shared learning opportunities for queer parents.
The unique challenges faced by gay dads, trans, and non-binary parents in healthcare and societal perceptions.
Practical strategies for empowerment in medical settings—questioning, advocating, and building supportive relationships.
The significance of trauma awareness in healthcare and the importance of pronoun usage to foster safer spaces.
Broader advocacy issues: recent legislation attacks, anti-LGBTQ laws, and the importance of community resilience.

Resources & Links:

Baby Ready Podcast
Shawnee Kish - Music (Canadian Two Spirit musician)
Understanding Two Spirit

Connect with Sam Leeson:

Instagram

Note:

In discussing community support, advocacy, and legal hurdles, Sam emphasizes that resilience stems from storytelling, shared experiences, and active community building. Her work advocates for systemic change, trauma-informed care, and genuine inclusion—finding home not in four walls, but in the relationships and safety we cultivate together.

The Power of Representation and Advocacy in Children's Literature and LGBTQ+ Rights

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 27 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT

In this episode, we explore the impactful intersection of children's literature, LGBTQ+ advocacy, and education through an inspiring conversation with children's author Danny Neville. Discover how stories can serve as mirrors and windows for young readers, fostering inclusion, understanding, and love. We also confront the rise of anti-LGBTQ+ narratives and the quiet but vital advocacy efforts of educators and librarians shaping a more inclusive future.

Key Topics Covered:

The importance of diverse children's literature that reflects real family structures
How librarians and educators advocate for inclusive stories despite funding cuts
The role of books as tools for conversations about identity, family, and belonging
The impact of advocacy work and the responsibility of authors in representation
Responses to anti-LGBTQ+ harassment, including recent hate incidents and the importance of standing together
Personal journeys of parenthood through surrogacy and adoption within LGBTQ+ families
The evolving landscape of school libraries and access to diverse literature in Canadian and American schools
How stories can prepare children for challenges and promote empathy and understanding
The ongoing fight for equitable policies and the vital role of community support and activism

Resources & Links:

Little Bee series by Danny Neville: Explore Danny's work promoting inclusion in children's literature
Annick Press - Publisher supporting diverse voices
Mambian LGBTQ Book Review: Platform with reviews on LGBTQ children’s books

Connect with Danny Neville:

Additional Notes:

This episode underscores how storytelling and advocacy can drive societal change, making space for love, acceptance, and authenticity. Whether you're an educator, parent, or storyteller, your role in fostering an inclusive environment is powerful and pivotal.

The Bold Truth: Why America’s Fear of a Gay President Is Overcome by Love

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT

In this electrifying episode, we explore the bold question: Is America truly ready for two gay dads in the Oval Office? Nate and Jason dive deep into Pete Buttigieg’s historic potential, conversations about representation, and why authentic leadership matters more than ever.

You’ll discover how Pete’s strategic outreach—going everywhere from Fox News to podcasts—could be a game-changer for winning over voters who need to see themselves in leadership. We break down how infrastructure, social justice, and diversity intersect with politics and how future leaders can reshape the narrative.
We discuss the true power of visibility—what it would mean for marginalized communities, adoption stories that inspire, and the ongoing fight for fairness in voting, health care, and beyond. This episode isn’t just about politics; it’s about breaking barriers and creating a future where love, truth, and integrity lead the way.

If you’re tired of the status quo and ready to see history made, this is essential listening. The question isn’t just ‘are we ready?’—it’s ‘what if we dare to dream bigger?’ Be part of the conversation that could change everything.
Join us. Hit play. The future is waiting.

The Hidden Power of Sibling Bonds That Transform Family and Adoption

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 13 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT

The Power of Sibling Bonds, Adoption, and Advocacy – A Heartfelt Conversation

Dive into an honest, emotional exploration of sibling love, family transitions, and advocacy for the LGBTQ+ community. This episode hits home with real stories, family laughs, and the fight for justice and love.

In this episode:

Celebrating family milestones amidst change and challenge
Deep dive into sibling relationships and unbreakable bonds
Behind the scenes of adoption journeys, support, and unconditional love
Practical ways families can minimize the impact of big life moves on children
The crucial fight against harmful practices like conversion therapy
How community safety nets and local control impact everyday lives
Personal stories of growth, faith, and resilience through adversity

Timestamps:

00:00 - Celebrating listener support and community growth
00:30 - Moving plans and family considerations
01:15 - Supporting Lizzy through big changes
02:24 - Family reflections on transition and adjustment
03:52 - How decisions are centered on children's well-being
05:24 - Introduction to Tante Suzy and her pivotal role
06:02 - Bonding stories and family fun
07:34 - The evolution of sibling relationships over time
09:00 - From childhood to becoming an aunt, the beautiful transformation
10:33 - Lizzy’s special household phrases and shared humor
11:56 - Supporting loved ones through adoption journeys
14:59 - The emotional journey of family support
16:42 - The importance of community and local control in public safety
18:08 - The unique bond between Auntie Tante and Lizzy
20:02 - The influence of childcare expertise in real family relationships
22:50 - Broader discussions on adoption and family dynamics
24:32 - The fight against harmful ballot measures and state reforms
26:42 - The vital importance of civil service and local control
29:40 - The dangers of property tax reforms and community funding
32:46 - Celebrating our supporters and civil servants
33:12 - Final thoughts on family, love, and advocacy
34:26 - The ongoing fight against conversion therapy
37:02 - The role of government regulation in healthcare and mental health decisions
40:25 - The devastating effects of harmful conversion therapies
43:28 - Personal stories of faith, acceptance, and resilience
47:17 - The importance of unconditional love in faith and family
51:45 - The damaging impact of words and the need for kindness
53:36 - Lessons learned from Lizzy and the power of patience
55:00 - Closing thoughts and encouraging grace in everyday lifeResources & Links:

Congresswoman Sarah McBride - First trans member of Congress
Paying for Public Services - Ohio Ballot Measure
American Psychological Association on Conversion Therapy
National Center for Transgender Equality

Join us next week for more honest conversations and powerful stories. Your support matters — hit subscribe, share, and let's keep building this community of love and advocacy!

Why Overperforming LGBTQ Parents Feel the Pressure—and Why It's Okay

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 06 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Raising Voices, Building Equality: The Power of Community and Advocacy

This episode is a heartfelt explosion of stories, struggles, victories, and bold visions for the future. We’re diving deep into how parents, especially LGBTQ+ families, shape our communities through activism, representation, and relentless love. If you’ve ever felt the weight of societal expectations or the power of standing up for your family’s right to exist and thrive, this episode is your call to action.

In this episode:

Jamie McGonigal shares his inspiring journey from Broadway to activism, highlighting how his family’s story fuels his fight for educational equity.
Personal stories of overperformance and the crushing pressure to represent all queer parents.
The importance of representation, visibility, and community-building in schools and neighborhoods.
How advocacy transforms when becoming a parent — advocacy rooted in love, protection, and future generations.
The fight for equitable school funding, diverse curricula, and safe spaces for all kids.
Examining the dangerous narratives that demonize LGBTQ+ individuals on the world stage, and why language matters.
How grassroots organizing, from Pride events to nationwide coalitions, creates real change.
The urgent need for bipartisan support on international adoption protections.
A rallying cry for recognizing local activism as foundational to national progress.

Resources & Links:

Rainbow Families — community organization for LGBTQ+ parents
United for Marriage Coalition — landmark advocacy coalition
New York Times — Born Abroad and Fearful of ICE, Adoptees Try to Prove They Belong
Support the Protect Adoptees in American Families Act — bipartisan effort, check your Senators' support

Connect with Jamie McGonigal:

Let's keep moving forward — together, change is possible when we show up, speak out, and build with love. This isn’t just a story — it’s a movement. Be the change you wish to see in the world.

Queer Dads, Big Stories

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 30 Mar 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Breaking Barriers and Building Community: An Honest Conversation with Jameel Mayers

Prepare to be inspired and moved. In this episode, we welcome Jameel Mayers, a beacon of authenticity, storytelling, and resilience. He takes us on a journey—through the nuances of modern queer fatherhood, the power of honest storytelling, and fighting to see LGBTQ families reflected in media and society. Buckle up, because this isn’t just a talk—it's a rallying cry for representation, love, and unapologetic truth.

In this episode:

How Jameel’s journey into podcasting grew from extending his family and a desire to create a space for authentic stories
The importance of media representation and why queer stories still need to be told—more loudly and vividly
The intersection of storytelling and activism: how sharing deeper truths can shift societal perceptions
Jameel’s experiences with adoption, foster care, and building a family — honest insights into the challenges and joys
How his books, Paper Cradles and Elysium, explore identity, legacy, and stepping into the unknown
The power of community in podcasting: how genuine connections are transforming lives and breaking isolation
Navigating raw conversations about politics, laws, and the urgent need for inclusive policies

Resources & Links:

Connect with Jameel:

This episode isn’t just conversation—it’s a movement. Jameel Mayers reminds us that our stories are powerful, our voices are needed, and love is the most revolutionary act. If you’ve ever felt unseen, misunderstood, or silenced—this is the episode for you. Let’s stand with courage, authenticity, and fierce love.

Survivalist or Not?

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 23 Mar 2026 10:00:00 GMT

When Life Throws Up & The Power of Adoption: The Raw Truth Be Told

Grab a coffee, because this episode is a rollercoaster of real talks—about sick kids, survivalist dreams, and celebrating the unstoppable power of family through adoption. This isn't your typical podcast—it's raw, it's relatable, and it's a call to celebrate every chaotic, beautiful moment of life, love, and resilience.

In this episode:

How a sick kid turned into a lesson in patience and resilience
The importance of celebrating "Gotcha Day" and what it really means
Surviving chaos: prepping for the unpredictable with a survivalist mindset
A candid discussion on Florida's anti-DEI bills and the threat to democracy
The power of community efforts to preserve queer history on Wikipedia
Simple, heartfelt lessons from a five-year-old’s honesty and joy
Why managing mental health during turbulent times starts with control and preparation

Resources & Links:

Connect with Nathan and Jason:

Special Mention:

Check out the creative storytelling of Ryan & Craig on YouTube
Follow their Instagram for hilarious parodies on Instagram @RyanAndCraig

Remember, life is messy, beautiful, and worth every chaotic second. Embrace the love, the struggle, and the resilience—because in chaos, we find our strength. Celebrate your journey. Share your story. And never forget the power of family—chosen or given.

Rest as Resistance

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 16 Mar 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Most of us are fighting the exhaustion that comes with advocating for change in a world that constantly pushes us to the brink. But what if rest isn’t just a luxury — what if it’s one of the most powerful acts of resistance? In this episode, we uncover why taking care of ourselves is essential to moving forward, not a betrayal of the causes we hold dear.Join us as we explore how bedtime stories can teach resilience, inclusion, and bravery—pillars that shape future generations. We break down the importance of diverse books that humanize cultures, challenge stereotypes, and normalize complex identities. You'll discover how stories about pioneers, queer icons, and everyday heroes build the foundation of a more compassionate, courageous world.We also dive into the toll of policing, activism fatigue, and the simple acts of sanctuary—like quiet mornings or moments of connection—that keep us standing. From the power of silence as an act of resistance, to celebrating small wins that fuel our fire, this episode ignites your passion for meaningful change without burning out.Why does it matter? Because in a world that demands relentless hustle, your well-being is your secret weapon. Rest isn’t laziness—it's strategy. It empowers you to show up stronger in every fight. Perfect for activists, parents, and anyone feeling overwhelmed but committed to making a difference, this is your call to reclaim your power through balance.Are you ready to fight for a better world — and also give yourself permission to breathe? Hit play now, and let’s resist, restore, and rise together.

Nate’s Gay Agenda Article:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/03/the-worlds-oldest-active-drag-king-has-shaped-the-art-form-for-decades-shes-not-slowing-down/

Jason’s Gay Agenda Article:

https://www.advocate.com/news/don-lemon-says-stand-up-to-bullies

Family of Choice

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 09 Mar 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Most LGBTQ+ people survive—and thrive—by building chosen families that shield, support, and save lives. In a world that constantly tries to divide us, true belonging is a act of rebellion.
This episode uncovers the unstoppable power of community born out of trauma, love, and defiance. You’ll hear raw stories of how families of choice keep us alive, sane, and free—especially when the world pushes back. From heartwarming moments of support to fights over institutions trying to erase us, this is a call to reclaim what’s ours: family, belonging, and hope.
We break down surprising history—from the AIDS crisis to the current battles over LGBTQ rights—that proves chosen families aren’t just emotional anchors—they are the backbone of our survival. You'll discover practical tips for building your own tribe, navigating transphobic policies, and creating spaces where love and acceptance defy every attempt to tear us apart.
Why does any of this matter? Because in a time when the right wing tries to politicize every aspect of our lives, choosing to stand together is an act of resistance. Your community could be your lifeline—your family of choice—ready to lift you up when the world tries to push you down.
This episode is essential listening for anyone who’s ever needed to find belonging beyond blood, who refuses to be silenced, and who believes in love that’s stronger than hate. Because family isn’t just who you’re born with—it’s who you choose to fight for.
Get ready to be inspired, empowered, and reminded: We are never alone when we stand together.

Perfect for LGBTQ allies, community builders, and anyone craving genuine connection in a world that’s constantly trying to divide us.

Double Dads Double Trouble

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 02 Mar 2026 11:00:00 GMT

Special Guests: The Twin Dads!

Youtube: @TheTwinDadLife

Insta: @twindadlife_official

This week Two Gay Dads goes global with Wayne and Heitor — the Ireland-meets-Brazil couple who somehow turned surrogacy chaos, eight rescued dogs (yes, eight), and seven failed embryo transfers into twin-powered domestic bliss. Expect stories about meeting on Facebook after one too many glasses of wine (Wayne = tipsy giraffe), a theatrical golden-egg baby reveal, a Roomba named Samantha enforcing toy cleanup, and twin antics that prove Blake and Blair have already mastered sibling diplomacy. We also get real about the baffling legal limbo for LGBTQ+ parents in Ireland, Meta algorithm rage-baiting, and why Kansas’ new laws make everyone’s blood boil. Equal parts heart, laughs, and practical advice—this episode is proof that family is messy, global, and totally worth it.

Parenting by Wi-Fi

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 23 Feb 2026 11:00:00 GMT

Jason and Nate are back (and apologizing for the missed week) with a candid, funny, and heartfelt conversation about parenting in a digital world. This episode covers:

Screen time: navigating apps, YouTube Kids, family movie choices (Madea, Mrs. Doubtfire, Full House) and how media sparks big questions from their daughter Lizzy.
Parenting while traveling: the realities of dual-travel schedules, FaceTime rituals, calendars, map magnets, re-entry after trips, and tips for keeping kids included and secure.
Gay Agenda: victories and fights — the Pride flag controversy at Stonewall (and efforts to restore it) and reflections on Jesse Jackson’s role supporting LGBTQ+ rights.
What they learned from Lizzy this week: the importance of goodbyes, meeting kids where they are, and small parenting wins.

Light, personal, and practical — perfect for parents juggling travel, screens, and raising resilient kids. Hosts: Jason & Nate

Girl Dads

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 09 Feb 2026 11:00:00 GMT

Jason and Nate come out swinging: equal parts riotous dad energy and deeply honest parenting. Tonight’s episode is a nonstop mix of laughs and real talk.

Highlights:

Parenting mayhem: sundresses vs. snow pants, rogue bangs, and the great ballet‑bun outsourcing confession.
Tough love with heart: teaching body boundaries, consent language, and recruiting aunties and allies for Lizzy.
Party politics: playdate protocol, gift‑opening drama, and the extra scrutiny LGBTQ parents sometimes face.
Unexpected wins: Girl Scouts orientation surprises and Nate nearly signing up on the spot.
Gay Agenda: alarming UK life‑expectancy data and dangerous T‑erasure, plus Winter Olympics queer highlights.
Tiny moments, huge feels: sticky‑note love notes that melted both dads.

Fast, funny, fierce — laugh out loud, then feel all the feels. Hit subscribe and join the chaos.

One Day Down

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 02 Feb 2026 22:53:20 GMT

This week Jason and Nate recap their favorite guest (Steven) and a powerful Netflix short featuring Matthew Shepard’s dad, dig into the difference between being an ally and a co-conspirator, and unpack how their parenting philosophy has evolved—from strict rules to positive, connection-first parenting for their daughter Lizzy. They compare parenting styles, share practical wins (and fails), and reveal the tiny rituals that bring joy to their household.

They also tackle aging with dignity (and the cultural weirdness of “Mar‑a‑Lago face”), then shift to an urgent news alert: a Heritage Foundation–backed campaign and hundreds of anti‑LGBTQ bills moving in state legislatures that threaten families like theirs. Candid, outraged, and hopeful, they explain why visibility and organizing matter now more than ever.

Light, loving, and unflinchingly real—tune in for honest parenting talk, culture critique, and a reminder that a child’s laugh can fix almost any day. Subscribe, leave a review, and join the community. Onward

ACLU Resource: https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2026?state=

Brave Kids - Brave Parents

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 26 Jan 2026 11:00:00 GMT

This week on Two Gay Dads we sit down with Stephen Chukumba, co‑founder and advocacy/outreach coordinator of Rainbow in Black. Stephen shares his powerful origin story as an accidental advocate, frontline strategies for supporting Black trans and gender‑expansive youth, and how families — especially fathers and single parents — can show up as true co‑conspirators. We discuss community building, resources (including a dating/disclosure guide co‑authored with HRC), racial dimensions of anti‑trans attacks, the fight over trans athletes in the courts, and a moving family story about patience, boundaries, and eventual acceptance. Plus: This Week in Gay News — adoptions stalled, dangerous deportations to Iran, Iowa’s expanded “don’t say” push, and joyful trans mutual‑aid in Florida.

Takeaways:

How to support Black trans youth and their families in culturally specific ways
Practical advocacy steps: local organizing, telling stories, contacting officials
Why patience, firm boundaries, and community outreach matter
Joyful resistance as a form of survival and organizing

Actions:
Subscribe, rate, and share — and if you’re moved by Stephen’s work, learn more about Rainbow in Black and ways to support local trans organizations and legal defenders (ACLU, Lambda Legal, local clinics).

Hosts: Jason & Nathan
Guest: Stephen Chukumba — Rainbow in Black

Resources:

www.rainbowinblack.org

www.stephenchukumba.com

It's Time to Say Something

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 19 Jan 2026 11:00:00 GMT

Trigger warning: discussion of violence, immigration enforcement, trauma, and political repression.

In this urgent, off-format episode of Two Gay Dads, Jason and Nate step outside their usual adoption and family topics to respond to the escalating crises they’ve witnessed — from Minneapolis where ICE actions coincided with the murder of Renee (Becca) Good, to nationwide targeting of educators and communities of color. A former law‑enforcement officer, Jason recounts what he saw on the ground, and Nate shares practical steps their family is taking to prepare (wills, apostilles, emergency funds, researching immigration options). They unpack signs of authoritarianism, why civil resistance matters, and concrete tactics and networks (including Freedom Trainers) that build collective power. They also recommend podcasts and resources listeners can use to stay informed and take action.

This episode is a call to speak up, document injustice, protect your loved ones, and build the 3.5% movement of civic resistance. Listen, act, and share.

Resources Mentioned:

Freedom Trainers: https://freedomtrainers.net/

Podcasts:

Pod Save America

Pod Save the World

Strict Scrutiny

The Ezra Klein Show

Autocracy in America (The Atlantic)

Onward!

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 12 Jan 2026 11:00:00 GMT

New year, same dads — but this time we’re keeping it short, sweet, and only moderately caffeinated.

In this episode, we’re ringing in 2026 the way all responsible parents do:
by pretending we can stay up until midnight while our kids demand snacks, sparkly hats, and that we replay the same Frozen song 19 times “because it’s New Year, Daddy.”

Jason kicks us off by declaring his longstanding war on New Year’s resolutions (he hasn’t made one since 2010 and is very proud of this streak). Nate, meanwhile, tries to convince the world — and apparently every business owner — that changing tables belong in men’s restrooms too. Justice for dads with diaper bags!

Then we get a little reflective as we talk about what 2026 means to us as a two‑dad family:
✨ The hopes
😬 The worries
😂 The joys that make us laugh even when we’re covered in slime or stepping on LEGOs barefoot
And the big dream for the year: more date nights than dentist appointments. Please.

We also chat about what’s ahead for the show — more guests, more parenting stories, more voices from families like ours, and maybe one or two surprises if we figure out how to record without someone’s child demanding a yogurt pouch.

And of course, it wouldn’t be Two Gay Dads without This Week in the Gay Agenda, where we dive into everything from the mass exodus from anti‑LGBTQ religious spaces to how 2026 might (finally!) bring relief and progress for trans people — plus a wild but true fact about who’s actually getting breast‑reduction surgery.

Finally, we wrap up with our favorite tradition:
What We Learned From Lizzy This Week, followed by a little holiday‑card wisdom to carry us into the year ahead.

Grab your confetti, your sparkling juice of choice, and your most reasonable resolution (like “survive January”) — and join us for Episode 7!

Differnt Parents - Same Love

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 05 Jan 2026 11:00:00 GMT

We survived the flu and came back chatty. We gush over Heated Rivalries (no spoilers), salute Hallmark’s unexpected queer crown jewel, and sit down with our friends Chad and Erin Oban for a hilarious, honest, heart-forward look at their adoption journey—grief, cost, open adoption, the heroism of birth parents, and raising their Native son with everyday pride over performative checkbox culture. Then: the Gay Agenda brings legal whiplash from Texas to Massachusetts to Arkansas. We end with kid lessons: cuddles, catch, and a future wine-opener (when legal!).

What’s inside:

Hallmark hot takes and Heated Rivalries hype
Adoption real talk: money, control (or lack thereof), and language that honors birth parents
Keeping Native heritage central in daily life, not just at powwows
Gay Agenda: attacks on marriage equality, rollback of protections, and… policing hairstyles?
Parent wins: remembering to slow down, play catch, and accept unsolicited cuddles

The Sick Out

B Squared Media LLC — Sun, 28 Dec 2025 22:11:26 GMT

We will be back on January 5th with a new episode including interviews with our friends Chad and Erin about their adoptions story.

This last week we have all been battling Influenza A and we will take all the positive vibes you want to send.

Ugly Sweaters & Santa Secrets

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 22 Dec 2025 11:00:00 GMT

Episode 5: Holiday Chaos, Ugly Sweaters & The Gay Agenda 🎄
It’s the holiday edition of Two Gay Dads, and Jason is rocking a Golfing Santa sweater that’s so tacky it might be a hate crime against fashion. Nate is not impressed. In this festive episode, we spill all the holiday tea:

Our family traditions (yes, we decorate on Election Day—don’t judge).
How we handle Santa without traumatizing Lizzy.
The ultimate toy wish list (spoiler: still no puppy).
Holiday movies we love, hate, and heckle—plus why watching Hallmark alone should come with a Surgeon General’s warning.

And in the Big Bad Gay Agenda: deadnaming in government, HIV discrimination in the military, and why love—not fear—should define the season.

We wrap it all up with what Lizzy taught us this week (kids are wise, y’all). Grab your cocoa, your wine, or your ugly sweater, and join us for laughs, love, and a little activism under the mistletoe.

Listen now wherever you get your podcasts—and subscribe on YouTube, or where you listen to your Podcasts for the full festive chaos!

Family Rewritten

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 15 Dec 2025 11:00:00 GMT

What does it mean to build a family on your own terms? In this episode, Jason and Nate explore the growing movement of single parenting by choice—a bold, intentional path that’s rewriting the rules of what family looks like.

We sit down with our friend Kelly Healy, who made the life-changing decision to become a single mom by choice. From the spark that started her journey to the challenges, triumphs, and unexpected joys along the way, Kelly shares what it really takes to go solo on the parenting adventure. We’ll talk about adoption, donor conception, and surrogacy—and why these stories prove that family is built on love and intention, not tradition.

But that’s not all—stick around for This Week in the Gay Agenda, where we unpack the headlines shaping LGBTQ+ life:

Human Rights Reporting Overhauled: The Trump administration directs embassies to frame gender-affirming care for minors as “chemical or surgical mutilation,” signaling a dangerous precedent that erases LGBTQ+ protections and threatens trans lives worldwide.
Radical Love in Action: Parents of Black trans kids create a groundbreaking space for affirmation and empowerment, proving that when systems fail, families rise to rewrite the rules. Learn more at rainbowinblack.org.
National Security Memo: The Attorney General prioritizes investigations into violent extremist groups, citing “radical gender ideology” and “hostility toward traditional family values” as ideological drivers. Welcome to the resistance, folks.
FIFA’s Controversial Pride Match: Egypt vs. Iran during Pride Month and the Stonewall anniversary—set in Seattle. A bold move or a global eyebrow-raiser? We break it down.

If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to choose this path—or you just love hearing stories of courage and community—this episode will inspire you to rethink what family means and why advocacy matters.

🎧 Listen now and join the conversation about families built on love, not templates.

The Call That Changed Everything...

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 08 Dec 2025 11:00:00 GMT

What happens when one phone call turns your world upside down? In this deeply personal episode of Two Day Gay Dads, Jason and Nathan share the emotional rollercoaster of their adoption journey—from the first conversations and endless waiting to the life-changing moment they learned their daughter was on the way.

You’ll hear about:

The decision to adopt and the process of creating a family profile.
The unexpected call during COVID: “She’s in labor—are you ready?”
The whirlwind trip across state lines, NICU bonding, and meeting Lizzy for the first time.
Life after placement—legal hurdles, first milestones, and building family traditions.

Plus, in This Week in the Gay Agenda, we explore why inclusive language matters during the holidays and reflect on the global significance of World AIDS Day—and what happens when silence replaces solidarity.

This episode is raw, heartfelt, and full of lessons about resilience, love, and the many ways families are formed.

Just Keep Traveling...

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 01 Dec 2025 11:00:00 GMT

Pack your bags and buckle up—this episode is all about the adventures (and misadventures) of traveling as LGBTQ+ parents. Jason and Nate kick things off with a quick recap of Episode 1, a few hilarious clean-ups, and Lizzy’s latest Christmas song obsession (spoiler: it involves a donkey and a hippopotamus).

Then we dive into the big stuff:

Traveling as LGBTQ+ and adoptive parents—from passports and paperwork to navigating spaces that aren’t always welcoming. Hear stories from Disney cruises, solo parenting weekends, and the dream of international travel.
The Gay Agenda of the Week—why marriage equality is still under attack and what’s happening in Texas courts. Plus, a shoutout to Memphis Public Libraries for being a beacon of inclusion.
Pride merch—the good, the bad, and the cringe-worthy. How much is too much?

Finally, we wrap with a heartwarming segment on what Lizzy taught us this week—because parenting isn’t just about the big moments, it’s about the quiet ones by the firelight.

If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to juggle parenthood, advocacy, and a little chaos (with a lot of love), this episode is for you.

Listen now and join the conversation: When is the right time to eat on Thanksgiving?

UCLA Williams Insttitute:

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/

Lambda Legal

https://lambdalegal.org/

Tommee Profitt

https://www.tommeeprofitt.com/birthofakinglive

Welcome to the Chaos!

B Squared Media LLC — Mon, 24 Nov 2025 11:00:00 GMT

In the premiere episode of 2 Day Gay Dads – Parenting with Pride in a World Still Catching Up, Jason and Nathan introduce themselves, their sassy five-year-old daughter Lizzy, and the beautiful chaos of queer family life. From Meijer meltdowns over sunglasses (spoiler: she got them) to bedtime battles and lunchbox showdowns, they dive into the real, ridiculous, and rewarding moments of parenting.

They also get candid about the politics of playgrounds and paperwork—like why forms still ask for “Mother’s Name” and how book bans are hitting close to home. Plus, they dish on Full House rewatches, their love for Below Deck, and why Bluey desperately needs a gay uncle.

Stick around for fake listener letters (yes, someone’s toddler thinks RuPaul is Santa), a sweet moment from Lizzy that made them melt, and a teaser for next week’s episode on queer family travel and Pride merch for kids.

Come for the laughs, stay for the love, and join the community at 2gaydads.com. Because parenting is political, messy, and full of glitter—and we’re here for all of it.