<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Beers and SEO with Barry and Steve]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Barry Adams and Steven Wilson-Beales - two guys that have been at the forefront of digital publishing over the last 20 years, sit down and have a beer! Discussing the latest SEO news, audience growth, Google, AI visibility (and their favourite tipple) - this is your chance to hear an alternative take on the latest publishing trends.<br /><br />Expect some of the biggest audience specialists in news publishing - with so much misinformation around, it's time for an honest conversation. What is the future of publishing? How is AI affecting brand visibility? What are the best paywall strategies? Why is original journalism more important than ever before?<br /><br />If you have a question for Barry &amp; Steve you can reach out via <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:me@stevenwilsonbeales.com" target="_blank">me@stevenwilsonbeales.com</a> - don't be shy :) </p>]]></description><link>www.stevenwilsonbeales.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 21:31:15 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/dki4m1Ak.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></author><pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 09:25:01 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2025 Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Marketing]]></category><category><![CDATA[Tech News]]></category><itunes:author>Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Barry Adams and Steven Wilson-Beales - two guys that have been at the forefront of digital publishing over the last 20 years, sit down and have a beer! Discussing the latest SEO news, audience growth, Google, AI visibility (and their favourite tipple) - this is your chance to hear an alternative take on the latest publishing trends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Expect some of the biggest audience specialists in news publishing - with so much misinformation around, it&apos;s time for an honest conversation. What is the future of publishing? How is AI affecting brand visibility? What are the best paywall strategies? Why is original journalism more important than ever before?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have a question for Barry &amp;amp; Steve you can reach out via &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:me@stevenwilsonbeales.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;me@stevenwilsonbeales.com&lt;/a&gt; - don&apos;t be shy :) &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams</itunes:name><itunes:email>wbsteven@hotmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Marketing"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="News"><itunes:category text="Tech News"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/logos/526665af-565c-4260-9605-e0e48a88e831.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[
Google is building an Audience Loyalty ecosystem]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Steve and Barry Adams discuss Google's new audience loyalty ecosystem, the impact of AI on search and publisher traffic, and practical strategies for publishers to adapt to the evolving digital landscape.<br /><br />- Google's new audience loyalty features (preferred sources, follow, subscription linking)<br />- Impact of AI on search traffic and publisher visibility<br />- Strategies for publishers to build and retain loyal audiences<br />- Prompt tracking and AI visibility challenges and opportunities<br />- The importance of quality content and user experience in a changing landscape<br /><br />00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Topics<br />02:58 Google's New Publisher Engagement Strategies<br />06:00 The Impact of AI on Traffic and Content<br />09:11 Optimizing User Experience and Conversion Rates<br />12:10 Insights from the Glide Event<br />15:09 SEO's Role in Audience Engagement<br />17:54 The Future of Content and Publisher Strategies<br />22:58 The Impact of Zero-Click Searches<br />26:02 Google's Dominance in Traffic Generation<br />28:56 Trust in Information Sources<br />36:03 Navigating Prompt Tracking in AI<br />48:10 The Future of News and Editorial SEO<br /><br />Resources<br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/google-audience-loyalty-ecosystem" target="_blank">https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/google-audience-loyalty-ecosystem</a><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/ai-visibility-and-prompt-tracking" target="_blank">https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/ai-visibility-and-prompt-tracking</a><br />--------------------<br /><br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve<br />SEO Summit 2026 - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://newsseo.io" target="_blank">https://newsseo.io</a><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">a6440550-c1e6-4b4e-9903-52a07fbe2e74</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2026 11:52:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/668adb13488059dcb8b4845bb65ebb44a5a7984c247864bb2fe78540873bffac/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhNjQ0MDU1MC1jMWU2LTRiNGUtOTkwMy01MmEwN2ZiZTJlNzQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEzYTgyZjBlYjZkMGMwZDk0NmI3N2M1L3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNi0yM19fMTQtNTgtMjQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="24485529" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Steve and Barry Adams discuss Google&apos;s new audience loyalty ecosystem, the impact of AI on search and publisher traffic, and practical strategies for publishers to adapt to the evolving digital landscape.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- Google&apos;s new audience loyalty features (preferred sources, follow, subscription linking)&lt;br /&gt;- Impact of AI on search traffic and publisher visibility&lt;br /&gt;- Strategies for publishers to build and retain loyal audiences&lt;br /&gt;- Prompt tracking and AI visibility challenges and opportunities&lt;br /&gt;- The importance of quality content and user experience in a changing landscape&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Topics&lt;br /&gt;02:58 Google&apos;s New Publisher Engagement Strategies&lt;br /&gt;06:00 The Impact of AI on Traffic and Content&lt;br /&gt;09:11 Optimizing User Experience and Conversion Rates&lt;br /&gt;12:10 Insights from the Glide Event&lt;br /&gt;15:09 SEO&apos;s Role in Audience Engagement&lt;br /&gt;17:54 The Future of Content and Publisher Strategies&lt;br /&gt;22:58 The Impact of Zero-Click Searches&lt;br /&gt;26:02 Google&apos;s Dominance in Traffic Generation&lt;br /&gt;28:56 Trust in Information Sources&lt;br /&gt;36:03 Navigating Prompt Tracking in AI&lt;br /&gt;48:10 The Future of News and Editorial SEO&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Resources&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/google-audience-loyalty-ecosystem&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/google-audience-loyalty-ecosystem&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/ai-visibility-and-prompt-tracking&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/ai-visibility-and-prompt-tracking&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve&lt;br /&gt;SEO Summit 2026 - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://newsseo.io&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://newsseo.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:51:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/a6440550-c1e6-4b4e-9903-52a07fbe2e74/images/85046688-5143-41ce-814c-1f1633115ece.jpeg"/><itunes:title>
Google is building an Audience Loyalty ecosystem</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[How to Grow a Podcast: Product, People and Promotion]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Join Barry and Steve on Beers and SEO as they discuss essential podcast tips for growing your audience. This episode provides valuable insights into podcast marketing and how to podcast effectively, covering strategies for both new and experienced creators. Learn how to grow a podcast and implement strong seo for podcasts to expand your reach and engagement.<br /><br />key topics<br />Podcast SEO strategies and platform optimization<br />Audience engagement and metrics analysis<br />Content focus and niche monetization<br /><br />takeaways<br />Understanding platform-specific SEO (Apple, Spotify) is crucial for visibility.<br />Audience retention and engagement metrics are more valuable than downloads alone.<br />Niche podcasts can be highly profitable with targeted advertising.<br /><br />Chapters<br /><br />00:00 Introduction to Podcast SEO<br />02:14 Understanding Podcast Optimization<br />11:35 The Role of Video in Podcasting<br />16:10 Key Metrics for Podcast Success<br />22:45 Influencer Impact on Podcasting<br />25:45 Exploring Paywalls in Podcasting<br />28:09 Monetization Strategies for Podcasts<br />33:11 Favorite Podcasts and Their Impact<br /><br />Resources<br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/podcast-seo" target="_blank">https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/podcast-seo</a><br />--------------------<br /><br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve<br />SEO Summit 2026 - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://newsseo.io" target="_blank">https://newsseo.io</a><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7bc82e74-7d88-4db3-a69a-3e4b608794a5</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 04:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/3c56ffc5ad961a8dd1fb7ff6f54b1659d0fbe802e8d2921c9cbe9283bc2c88a5/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3YmM4MmU3NC03ZDg4LTRkYjMtYTY5YS0zZTRiNjA4Nzk0YTUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEwZTFjMzZjMDE2YjFhMzcwMTU4NjgwL3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNS0yMF9fMjItNDAtMjIubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="18066512" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/7bc82e74-7d88-4db3-a69a-3e4b608794a5/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Join Barry and Steve on Beers and SEO as they discuss essential podcast tips for growing your audience. This episode provides valuable insights into podcast marketing and how to podcast effectively, covering strategies for both new and experienced creators. Learn how to grow a podcast and implement strong seo for podcasts to expand your reach and engagement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;key topics&lt;br /&gt;Podcast SEO strategies and platform optimization&lt;br /&gt;Audience engagement and metrics analysis&lt;br /&gt;Content focus and niche monetization&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;takeaways&lt;br /&gt;Understanding platform-specific SEO (Apple, Spotify) is crucial for visibility.&lt;br /&gt;Audience retention and engagement metrics are more valuable than downloads alone.&lt;br /&gt;Niche podcasts can be highly profitable with targeted advertising.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chapters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction to Podcast SEO&lt;br /&gt;02:14 Understanding Podcast Optimization&lt;br /&gt;11:35 The Role of Video in Podcasting&lt;br /&gt;16:10 Key Metrics for Podcast Success&lt;br /&gt;22:45 Influencer Impact on Podcasting&lt;br /&gt;25:45 Exploring Paywalls in Podcasting&lt;br /&gt;28:09 Monetization Strategies for Podcasts&lt;br /&gt;33:11 Favorite Podcasts and Their Impact&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Resources&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/podcast-seo&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.publishingstrategies.co.uk/p/podcast-seo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve&lt;br /&gt;SEO Summit 2026 - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://newsseo.io&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://newsseo.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:37:38</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/7bc82e74-7d88-4db3-a69a-3e4b608794a5/images/6a822537-0e90-4447-914b-bed94740fd07.png"/><itunes:title>How to Grow a Podcast: Product, People and Promotion</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Truth About AI Crawlers and Publisher Content]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>On this month's pod we cover the impact of AI on news and publishers and focus on SEO strategies, AI crawling, and protecting content.We'll also share insights on optimising for AI, handling AI bots, and industry collaboration. With the various algorithmic updates and AI policy changes there's a lot to catch up on, so let's dive in!<br /><br />Key topics:<br /><br />- AI impact on news and publishers<br />- SEO strategies for AI search<br />- AI crawling and bot behavior<br />- Content protection and regulation<br />- Industry collaboration and regulation<br /><br />Chapters<br /><br />00:00 Introduction to AI in News and Publishing<br />03:04 The Impact of Google's Core Updates<br />06:01 Back Button Hijacking and User Experience<br />10:05 AI Overview Accuracy and User Trust<br />17:12 AI Crawlers and Bots: Challenges for Publishers<br />30:09 Navigating AI Optimisation Strategies<br />31:53 The Value of AI Training Data<br />33:13 Challenges in AI Visibility for Brands<br />34:31 The Limitations of Prompt Tracking<br />35:47 The Importance of Collective Action in Publishing<br />37:41 Understanding the Low Value Exchange for Publishers<br />39:49 Optimising for AI Visibility in Direct Sales<br />41:32 The Dilemma of AI-Generated Content for Publishers<br />43:14 Technical SEO Strategies for AI Visibility<br />44:35 The Role of Semantic HTML and Structured Data<br />46:41 Chunking and Writing for AI vs. Humans<br />50:30 Crawlability and Internal Linking Strategies<br />53:20 Meta Tags and Open Graph Optimisation<br />54:12 The Future of LLMs and Markdown<br />57:11 Final Thoughts and Future Directions<br /><br />Resources<br />AIO accuracies<br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/technology/google-ai-overviews-accuracy.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/technology/google-ai-overviews-accuracy.html</a><br /><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://algorythmic.co/opinions/my-response-to-googles-response-to-the-nyt-ai-overview-story/" target="_blank">https://algorythmic.co/opinions/my-response-to-googles-response-to-the-nyt-ai-overview-story/</a><br />Denmark's strategy to front run Europe on Big Tech deals: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/denmarks-strategy-to-front-run-europe-on-big-tech-deals/id1800563534?i=1000745426241" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/denmarks-strategy-to-front-run-europe-on-big-tech-deals/id1800563534?i=1000745426241</a><br />3rd party scrapers selling to AI companies: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7447249264881205249/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7447249264881205249/</a> <br />--------------------<br /><br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve<br />SEO Summit 2026 - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://newsseo.io" target="_blank">https://newsseo.io</a><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">13205e81-73b2-4470-8591-62118505a938</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 10:54:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/05c4eb773b0597a9994dd9020c2798f28d179b62274c15bfbe5e0b46f5e3ddba/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxMzIwNWU4MS03M2IyLTQ0NzAtODU5MS02MjExODUwNWE5MzgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllNzViYTYxZWYxYTA4M2NmYWJiZmNjL3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0yMV9fMTMtMTItMzgubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="28092935" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/13205e81-73b2-4470-8591-62118505a938/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;On this month&apos;s pod we cover the impact of AI on news and publishers and focus on SEO strategies, AI crawling, and protecting content.We&apos;ll also share insights on optimising for AI, handling AI bots, and industry collaboration. With the various algorithmic updates and AI policy changes there&apos;s a lot to catch up on, so let&apos;s dive in!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key topics:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- AI impact on news and publishers&lt;br /&gt;- SEO strategies for AI search&lt;br /&gt;- AI crawling and bot behavior&lt;br /&gt;- Content protection and regulation&lt;br /&gt;- Industry collaboration and regulation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chapters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction to AI in News and Publishing&lt;br /&gt;03:04 The Impact of Google&apos;s Core Updates&lt;br /&gt;06:01 Back Button Hijacking and User Experience&lt;br /&gt;10:05 AI Overview Accuracy and User Trust&lt;br /&gt;17:12 AI Crawlers and Bots: Challenges for Publishers&lt;br /&gt;30:09 Navigating AI Optimisation Strategies&lt;br /&gt;31:53 The Value of AI Training Data&lt;br /&gt;33:13 Challenges in AI Visibility for Brands&lt;br /&gt;34:31 The Limitations of Prompt Tracking&lt;br /&gt;35:47 The Importance of Collective Action in Publishing&lt;br /&gt;37:41 Understanding the Low Value Exchange for Publishers&lt;br /&gt;39:49 Optimising for AI Visibility in Direct Sales&lt;br /&gt;41:32 The Dilemma of AI-Generated Content for Publishers&lt;br /&gt;43:14 Technical SEO Strategies for AI Visibility&lt;br /&gt;44:35 The Role of Semantic HTML and Structured Data&lt;br /&gt;46:41 Chunking and Writing for AI vs. Humans&lt;br /&gt;50:30 Crawlability and Internal Linking Strategies&lt;br /&gt;53:20 Meta Tags and Open Graph Optimisation&lt;br /&gt;54:12 The Future of LLMs and Markdown&lt;br /&gt;57:11 Final Thoughts and Future Directions&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Resources&lt;br /&gt;AIO accuracies&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/technology/google-ai-overviews-accuracy.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/technology/google-ai-overviews-accuracy.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://algorythmic.co/opinions/my-response-to-googles-response-to-the-nyt-ai-overview-story/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://algorythmic.co/opinions/my-response-to-googles-response-to-the-nyt-ai-overview-story/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Denmark&apos;s strategy to front run Europe on Big Tech deals: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/denmarks-strategy-to-front-run-europe-on-big-tech-deals/id1800563534?i=1000745426241&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/denmarks-strategy-to-front-run-europe-on-big-tech-deals/id1800563534?i=1000745426241&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3rd party scrapers selling to AI companies: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7447249264881205249/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7447249264881205249/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;--------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve&lt;br /&gt;SEO Summit 2026 - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://newsseo.io&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://newsseo.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:58:32</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/13205e81-73b2-4470-8591-62118505a938/images/d79ff5cb-7996-40c2-93b6-0df55a7c5626.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Truth About AI Crawlers and Publisher Content</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Secrets Behind The Times' SEO Success with Luke Halls]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore the SEO strategies behind The Times of London's success, the impact of AI on news publishing, and how to build a resilient, value-driven newsroom. Guest Luke Halls, Head of SEO at The Times, shares insights on audience engagement, content innovation, and future trends.<br /><br />Key Topics on the Pod!<br />- The Times' SEO strategy and audience growth<br />- Impact of AI on news content and search<br />- Building trust and loyalty through quality journalism<br /><br />Chapters<br /><br />00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction<br />00:18 The Success of The Times in a Complex Market<br />01:05 Barry's Favorite Beers and Personal Stories<br />02:16 The Heritage and Reach of The Times<br />03:43 The Role of Search and App Engagement<br />05:49 Luke's Journey into Journalism and SEO<br />09:52 Luke's Role and Objectives at The Times<br />10:30 Using Data to Drive Loyalty and Subscriptions<br />12:07 Content Strategy and Audience Targeting<br />13:20 AI's Disruption and Opportunities in News<br />14:46 Topic Focus and Data-Driven Content Planning<br />15:34 Adapting to the AI and Search Landscape<br />16:37 Google Discover and Content Optimization<br />18:41 Creating AI-Resilient and Original Journalism<br />20:19 Live Coverage and Content Tree Approach<br />21:26 Balancing Breaking News and Quality Content<br />22:23 The Times' Approach to Paywalls and Subscription Models<br />28:29 Experimenting with Gift Links and Sharing<br />29:54 Content Experiments Without Targets<br />31:19 Monitoring Discover and AI Impact<br />33:12 Headlines, Headlines Optimization, and AI Tools<br />34:20 Headline Strategies for Discover and Search<br />36:12 Using Multiple Headlines and AI in CMS<br />38:00 AI for Menial Tasks and Content Automation<br />40:08 Google's Headline Rewrites and Search Impact<br />43:43 Future Trends in Search, Discover, and YouTube<br />45:30 Upcoming SEO Events and Educational Opportunities<br />47:35 Closing Remarks and Future Outlook<br /><br /><br />--------------------<br /><br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve<br />SEO Summit 2026 - <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://newsseo.io" target="_blank">https://newsseo.io</a><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8cf6240c-5ae0-401b-9e37-8f06195cb6b5</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 14:52:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/043a161ffc7b25b5b7f9a8cac772a459a5126be92f4af9ef81131673807f3906/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4Y2Y2MjQwYy01YWUwLTQwMWItOWUzNy04ZjA2MTk1Y2I2YjUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljNTRjM2YxNjA0YmQ5MTRmYmZjNjMwL3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0yNl9fMTYtOS01MS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="22049454" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/8cf6240c-5ae0-401b-9e37-8f06195cb6b5/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we explore the SEO strategies behind The Times of London&apos;s success, the impact of AI on news publishing, and how to build a resilient, value-driven newsroom. Guest Luke Halls, Head of SEO at The Times, shares insights on audience engagement, content innovation, and future trends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key Topics on the Pod!&lt;br /&gt;- The Times&apos; SEO strategy and audience growth&lt;br /&gt;- Impact of AI on news content and search&lt;br /&gt;- Building trust and loyalty through quality journalism&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chapters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction&lt;br /&gt;00:18 The Success of The Times in a Complex Market&lt;br /&gt;01:05 Barry&apos;s Favorite Beers and Personal Stories&lt;br /&gt;02:16 The Heritage and Reach of The Times&lt;br /&gt;03:43 The Role of Search and App Engagement&lt;br /&gt;05:49 Luke&apos;s Journey into Journalism and SEO&lt;br /&gt;09:52 Luke&apos;s Role and Objectives at The Times&lt;br /&gt;10:30 Using Data to Drive Loyalty and Subscriptions&lt;br /&gt;12:07 Content Strategy and Audience Targeting&lt;br /&gt;13:20 AI&apos;s Disruption and Opportunities in News&lt;br /&gt;14:46 Topic Focus and Data-Driven Content Planning&lt;br /&gt;15:34 Adapting to the AI and Search Landscape&lt;br /&gt;16:37 Google Discover and Content Optimization&lt;br /&gt;18:41 Creating AI-Resilient and Original Journalism&lt;br /&gt;20:19 Live Coverage and Content Tree Approach&lt;br /&gt;21:26 Balancing Breaking News and Quality Content&lt;br /&gt;22:23 The Times&apos; Approach to Paywalls and Subscription Models&lt;br /&gt;28:29 Experimenting with Gift Links and Sharing&lt;br /&gt;29:54 Content Experiments Without Targets&lt;br /&gt;31:19 Monitoring Discover and AI Impact&lt;br /&gt;33:12 Headlines, Headlines Optimization, and AI Tools&lt;br /&gt;34:20 Headline Strategies for Discover and Search&lt;br /&gt;36:12 Using Multiple Headlines and AI in CMS&lt;br /&gt;38:00 AI for Menial Tasks and Content Automation&lt;br /&gt;40:08 Google&apos;s Headline Rewrites and Search Impact&lt;br /&gt;43:43 Future Trends in Search, Discover, and YouTube&lt;br /&gt;45:30 Upcoming SEO Events and Educational Opportunities&lt;br /&gt;47:35 Closing Remarks and Future Outlook&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve&lt;br /&gt;SEO Summit 2026 - &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://newsseo.io&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://newsseo.io&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:45:56</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/8cf6240c-5ae0-401b-9e37-8f06195cb6b5/images/fe87cd0a-88c0-4398-8224-ecab903578eb.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Secrets Behind The Times&apos; SEO Success with Luke Halls</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[
The Power of Google Discover to BOOST audience for Publishers with Reach's Nicola Agius]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In our latest discussion we've invited Nicola Agius (Director of SEO and Discover, Reach) to chat about three SEO-related news stories before we deep dive into Google Discover and its implications for publishers. We explore the recent core updates, the impact of AI on traffic, and the importance of maintaining a balanced SEO strategy. Apologies for a couple of connectivity issues - but we resolved them in the end!<br /><br />Some takeaways...<br /><br />The CMA's regulations may lead to more control for publishers over their content in AI-generated responses in Google.<br />AI tracking tools can provide misleading data; focus on quality content instead.<br />The volatility of Google Discover requires constant monitoring and adaptation.<br />Smaller and regional publishers are gaining visibility in Discover, challenging national publishers.<br />Quality and authority in content creation should not be compromised for short-term traffic gains.<br />Publishers need a diversified traffic strategy to mitigate risks associated with reliance on Discover.<br /><br />--------------------<br /><br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve<br /><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">b5a699aa-bf25-492b-961d-8bf4c9f7ca5a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 13:13:58 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/a152cc860ddd41f24de89ac43737cb1152f91bac184eeb0580672eba4ebb30b2/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiNWE2OTlhYS1iZjI1LTQ5MmItOTYxZC04YmY0YzlmN2NhNWEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk5NWJlM2Q4ZjkzOTI4ZmFmZTE4NzYwL3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMi0xOF9fMTQtMjctMjUubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="27128912" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In our latest discussion we&apos;ve invited Nicola Agius (Director of SEO and Discover, Reach) to chat about three SEO-related news stories before we deep dive into Google Discover and its implications for publishers. We explore the recent core updates, the impact of AI on traffic, and the importance of maintaining a balanced SEO strategy. Apologies for a couple of connectivity issues - but we resolved them in the end!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some takeaways...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The CMA&apos;s regulations may lead to more control for publishers over their content in AI-generated responses in Google.&lt;br /&gt;AI tracking tools can provide misleading data; focus on quality content instead.&lt;br /&gt;The volatility of Google Discover requires constant monitoring and adaptation.&lt;br /&gt;Smaller and regional publishers are gaining visibility in Discover, challenging national publishers.&lt;br /&gt;Quality and authority in content creation should not be compromised for short-term traffic gains.&lt;br /&gt;Publishers need a diversified traffic strategy to mitigate risks associated with reliance on Discover.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:56:31</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/b5a699aa-bf25-492b-961d-8bf4c9f7ca5a/images/d72d8710-e99f-4a04-b9e7-1bc338f9856e.jpeg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>
The Power of Google Discover to BOOST audience for Publishers with Reach&apos;s Nicola Agius</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[AI Survival Strategies for Publishers: How to SMASH 2026!]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, we made it to our second podcast!<br /><br />This week we discussed AI Survival Strategies based on an article Barry wrote recently. We also talked about the evolving landscape of digital publishing, the importance of SEO, the role of Google Discover AND the necessity of diversifying traffic sources via video and social media. We also spoke about the critical need for publishers to build trust and authority with their audiences by investing MORE in original journalism. PHEW!</p><p><br />Further Reading for the hard core dedicated:<br />Barry's AI Survival Strategies for Publishers: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/ai-survival-strategies-for-publishers" target="_blank">https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/ai-survival-strategies-for-publishers</a><br /><br />Steve's take on the Reuters Journalism and Technology Trends and Predictions 2026 report: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://publishingstrategies.substack.com/p/reuters-journalism-technology-trends-predictions" target="_blank">https://publishingstrategies.substack.com/p/reuters-journalism-technology-trends-predictions</a><br /><br />Thanks to everyone who''s supported this pod so far!<br /><br />Some Key Takeaways:<br /><br />AI survival strategies are essential for publishers today.<br />Traffic from search engines remains significant despite changes.<br />Publishers must not neglect SEO in favour of quick wins.<br />Technical SEO is crucial for long-term success.<br />AI should be viewed as an accelerant, not a solution.<br />Diversifying traffic sources beyond Google is vital.<br />Google Discover presents both opportunities and risks for publishers.<br />Experimentation is key to success in Google Discover.<br />Publishers need to focus on quality journalism over clickbait tactics.<br />Understanding audience needs is essential for effective content strategy. <br />Google Discover can lead to spikes in traffic but can be addictive for publishers.<br />Experimentation is crucial for success in Google Discover.<br />Newsletters can effectively drive subscriptions and engage audiences.<br />Video content is becoming increasingly important in journalism.<br />Publishers should embrace video to retain talent and engage audiences.<br />Building trust with audiences is essential for brand authority.<br />Understanding audience perception is key to brand success.<br />Original journalism is necessary to stand out in a crowded market.<br />AI can summarise content, but original stories provide unique value.<br />Courage to innovate and experiment is vital for future success.<br /><br />---------------------<br /><br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve<br /><br />Barry's SEO for News Newsletter: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/" target="_blank">https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/</a><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">057d9f52-2b02-44ca-b756-f32f4265c93d</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 15:41:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/82ed54ed6a741da7546028d4b8ea9f61c13566c96f0afd2b75aa43bd108f20fe/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwNTdkOWY1Mi0yYjAyLTQ0Y2EtYjc1Ni1mMzJmNDI2NWM5M2QiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk2NjY4NGQzYjMyYzdkNDFkYTJhNGRmL3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMS0xM19fMTYtNDQtMTMubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="25616527" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Wow, we made it to our second podcast!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week we discussed AI Survival Strategies based on an article Barry wrote recently. We also talked about the evolving landscape of digital publishing, the importance of SEO, the role of Google Discover AND the necessity of diversifying traffic sources via video and social media. We also spoke about the critical need for publishers to build trust and authority with their audiences by investing MORE in original journalism. PHEW!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Further Reading for the hard core dedicated:&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s AI Survival Strategies for Publishers: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/ai-survival-strategies-for-publishers&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/p/ai-survival-strategies-for-publishers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s take on the Reuters Journalism and Technology Trends and Predictions 2026 report: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://publishingstrategies.substack.com/p/reuters-journalism-technology-trends-predictions&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://publishingstrategies.substack.com/p/reuters-journalism-technology-trends-predictions&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks to everyone who&apos;&apos;s supported this pod so far!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some Key Takeaways:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AI survival strategies are essential for publishers today.&lt;br /&gt;Traffic from search engines remains significant despite changes.&lt;br /&gt;Publishers must not neglect SEO in favour of quick wins.&lt;br /&gt;Technical SEO is crucial for long-term success.&lt;br /&gt;AI should be viewed as an accelerant, not a solution.&lt;br /&gt;Diversifying traffic sources beyond Google is vital.&lt;br /&gt;Google Discover presents both opportunities and risks for publishers.&lt;br /&gt;Experimentation is key to success in Google Discover.&lt;br /&gt;Publishers need to focus on quality journalism over clickbait tactics.&lt;br /&gt;Understanding audience needs is essential for effective content strategy. &lt;br /&gt;Google Discover can lead to spikes in traffic but can be addictive for publishers.&lt;br /&gt;Experimentation is crucial for success in Google Discover.&lt;br /&gt;Newsletters can effectively drive subscriptions and engage audiences.&lt;br /&gt;Video content is becoming increasingly important in journalism.&lt;br /&gt;Publishers should embrace video to retain talent and engage audiences.&lt;br /&gt;Building trust with audiences is essential for brand authority.&lt;br /&gt;Understanding audience perception is key to brand success.&lt;br /&gt;Original journalism is necessary to stand out in a crowded market.&lt;br /&gt;AI can summarise content, but original stories provide unique value.&lt;br /&gt;Courage to innovate and experiment is vital for future success.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s SEO for News Newsletter: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:53:22</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/057d9f52-2b02-44ca-b756-f32f4265c93d/images/991b71a0-98ca-4803-8940-5135bd005953.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>AI Survival Strategies for Publishers: How to SMASH 2026!</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Will AI Kill SEO? Publisher Growth Tactics for 2026]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome people to our new video podcast from Barry Adams and Steven Wilson-Beales discussing some of the biggest digital publishing trends - but with a difference because we'll be drinking beer throughout so what could possibly go wrong? This week we discussed - Will AI Kill SEO? Are AI prompt tracking tools the solution to all Zero-Click woes? What publishers should be aware of as we enter 2026. SEO myths we are most tired of AND publishers we're most proud of. There's also a story about walking drunkenly through Redruth, Cornwall - but you'll have to watch to find out what happened.<br /><br />Some key takeaways:<br /><br />SEO is evolving with the introduction of AI and LLMs.<br />AI's impact on SEO is significant but not the end of it.<br />Publishers need to adapt to the changing landscape of search traffic.<br />Case studies are essential for proving credibility in SEO.<br />Traffic from Google Discover can be addictive for newsrooms.<br />Understanding LLMs is crucial for future SEO strategies. Google Discover traffic can lead to unreliable spikes.<br />Publishers often chase clicks at the expense of quality.<br />Discover should be viewed as bonus traffic, not a strategy.<br />YouTube offers significant opportunities for news consumption.<br />Compelling titles and thumbnails are crucial for video engagement.<br />Reddit can be a tricky platform for publishers to navigate.<br />Keyword research remains vital for effective SEO.<br />Successful publishers focus on audience needs and engagement.<br />AI overviews pose a significant threat to traditional search traffic.<br />Long-term strategies are essential for sustainable growth.<br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Connect with Barry &amp; Steve!<br /><br />Barry's SEO for News Newsletter: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/" target="_blank">https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/</a><br />Barry's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.polemicdigital.com/" target="_blank">https://www.polemicdigital.com/</a><br />Steve's Consultancy service: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/" target="_blank">https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/</a><br />Zylinderkopf: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/_zylinderkopf/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/_zylinderkopf/</a><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">75eb88b5-6794-4f0c-9212-bcf6b15d37c3</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Wilson-Beales, Barry Adams]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2025 10:21:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7f286e5d76a0e64f51b870e2b8ad8a638b6c66e734295aed5c13069f22ac9d22/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI3NWViODhiNS02Nzk0LTRmMGMtOTIxMi1iY2Y2YjE1ZDM3YzMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJlNmI0OWIyYi1kNjYxLTRmZWYtYWY4Yi0zZmJkOGE4N2NiOTAiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTI4OGMyMTJmMmE5ZTRmMTA5YjYwYTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjkzYTliZjUxMDMyZGQ0YmJhMjFlMTA1L3N0ZXZlbi1sZWUtd2lsc29uLWJlYWxlc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjUtMTItMTFfXzExLTI0LTUzLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="30083884" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Welcome people to our new video podcast from Barry Adams and Steven Wilson-Beales discussing some of the biggest digital publishing trends - but with a difference because we&apos;ll be drinking beer throughout so what could possibly go wrong? This week we discussed - Will AI Kill SEO? Are AI prompt tracking tools the solution to all Zero-Click woes? What publishers should be aware of as we enter 2026. SEO myths we are most tired of AND publishers we&apos;re most proud of. There&apos;s also a story about walking drunkenly through Redruth, Cornwall - but you&apos;ll have to watch to find out what happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some key takeaways:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SEO is evolving with the introduction of AI and LLMs.&lt;br /&gt;AI&apos;s impact on SEO is significant but not the end of it.&lt;br /&gt;Publishers need to adapt to the changing landscape of search traffic.&lt;br /&gt;Case studies are essential for proving credibility in SEO.&lt;br /&gt;Traffic from Google Discover can be addictive for newsrooms.&lt;br /&gt;Understanding LLMs is crucial for future SEO strategies. Google Discover traffic can lead to unreliable spikes.&lt;br /&gt;Publishers often chase clicks at the expense of quality.&lt;br /&gt;Discover should be viewed as bonus traffic, not a strategy.&lt;br /&gt;YouTube offers significant opportunities for news consumption.&lt;br /&gt;Compelling titles and thumbnails are crucial for video engagement.&lt;br /&gt;Reddit can be a tricky platform for publishers to navigate.&lt;br /&gt;Keyword research remains vital for effective SEO.&lt;br /&gt;Successful publishers focus on audience needs and engagement.&lt;br /&gt;AI overviews pose a significant threat to traditional search traffic.&lt;br /&gt;Long-term strategies are essential for sustainable growth.&lt;br /&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Connect with Barry &amp;amp; Steve!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s SEO for News Newsletter: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.seoforgooglenews.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Barry&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.polemicdigital.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Steve&apos;s Consultancy service: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.stevenwilsonbeales.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Zylinderkopf: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/_zylinderkopf/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.instagram.com/_zylinderkopf/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:02:40</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/e6b49b2b-d661-4fef-af8b-3fbd8a87cb90/episodes/75eb88b5-6794-4f0c-9212-bcf6b15d37c3/images/5457425e-8c02-4444-a6e9-6171383d1326.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Will AI Kill SEO? 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