<![CDATA[Mind-Body Stuff]]>Explore the connection between the mind and the body in heartfelt conversations lead by our amazing hosts Melissa and Krysten. They will be joined by a guest each episode, who is an expert in their field, or an expert in their experiences, to talk through some of life’s conundrums, challenges, and joys.

]]>https://riverside.comRiverside.fm (https://riverside.com)Tue, 04 Aug 2026 00:50:12 GMTTue, 28 Jul 2026 05:27:40 GMT60Oula Fitness<p>Explore the connection between the mind and the body in heartfelt conversations lead by our amazing hosts Melissa and Krysten. They will be joined by a guest each episode, who is an expert in their field, or an expert in their experiences, to talk through some of life’s conundrums, challenges, and joys.</p>episodicOula Fitnessmindbodystuffpodcast@gmail.comyes<![CDATA[The Let Go with Cholla]]>Cholla does not care about your stuff, but she does care about you, your space, and your relationship to your stuff.

We welcome Cholla Foote, professional organizer, to talk about decluttering our spaces, our minds, and our inboxes. We discover clutter is weighed down by shame, attachments, and stories that need to be released.

29Jul2026

The Useful Witch website

]]>4ad7d600-c88d-469e-9036-c21b7dd5ef2bWed, 29 Jul 2026 05:19:50 GMT<p>Cholla does not care about your stuff, but she does care about you, your space, and your relationship to your stuff.<br /><br />We welcome Cholla Foote, professional organizer, to talk about decluttering our spaces, our minds, and our inboxes. We discover clutter is weighed down by shame, attachments, and stories that need to be released.</p><p></p><p>29Jul2026</p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.theusefulwitch.com/" target="_blank">The Useful Witch website</a></p><p></p><p></p>no01:13:5221The Let Go with Chollafull<![CDATA[Meet Heather Hughes]]>We are so excited to introduce you to Oula's new owner Heather Hughes! To get to know her, listen to this latest edition of the Mind-Body Stuff's podcast.

15Jul2026

]]>7d79f89b-643a-4084-ab80-7eb4c389ef1eTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:43:39 GMT<p>We are so excited to introduce you to Oula's new owner Heather Hughes! To get to know her, listen to this latest edition of the Mind-Body Stuff's podcast.</p><p></p><p>15Jul2026</p>no01:07:381106Meet Heather Hughesfull<![CDATA[Grace Meets Grit with Daina Middleton]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali are honored to share an interview with Daina Middleton - an accomplished business person who has worked at a variety of firms including Hewlett Packard and Twitter. Daina talks about her climb to success, the lessons she learned along the way and how Oula came into her life at a particularly poignant time of reckoning and recentering. This is a great listen from a knowledgeable leader with insights into why it's so important to embrace your authentic self.

Read more about Daina at her website https://dainamiddleton.com/

16Apr2021

]]>ab409b80-6755-496c-8cfe-65b08f6d9d4bTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:42:17 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali are honored to share an interview with Daina Middleton - an accomplished business person who has worked at a variety of firms including Hewlett Packard and Twitter. Daina talks about her climb to success, the lessons she learned along the way and how Oula came into her life at a particularly poignant time of reckoning and recentering. This is a great listen from a knowledgeable leader with insights into why it's so important to embrace your authentic self.</p><p>Read more about Daina at her website <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://dainamiddleton.com/" target="_blank">https://dainamiddleton.com/</a></p><p></p><p>16Apr2021</p>no01:03:331105Grace Meets Grit with Daina Middletonfull<![CDATA[Astrology as a Path to Empowerment]]>"Astrology works. The charts never lie." In this episode, Kali and Bernice have the incredible privilege of interviewing Whitney Fishburn, editor and reporter on Capitol Hill turned Astrologer. After both having really life-affirming sessions with Whitney, Kali and Bernice could not have been more excited to talk to Whitney about her personal story that led her to astrology, how and why it can be a life changing experience for clients, and how the systems and cycles of astrology can help us make sense of our own lives, our own journeys and realize our personal power in a world where so often we are just a cog in the machine that is capitalism.

To book a consultation with Whitney or to learn more, visit https://www.ensouledastrology.com/.

15Mar2021

]]>8c546a81-5df3-4ebb-b6cc-9e412a572902Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:41:16 GMT<p>"Astrology works. The charts never lie." In this episode, Kali and Bernice have the incredible privilege of interviewing Whitney Fishburn, editor and reporter on Capitol Hill turned Astrologer. After both having really life-affirming sessions with Whitney, Kali and Bernice could not have been more excited to talk to Whitney about her personal story that led her to astrology, how and why it can be a life changing experience for clients, and how the systems and cycles of astrology can help us make sense of our own lives, our own journeys and realize our personal power in a world where so often we are just a cog in the machine that is capitalism.</p><p>To book a consultation with Whitney or to learn more, visit <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ensouledastrology.com/" target="_blank">https://www.ensouledastrology.com/</a>.</p><p></p><p>15Mar2021</p>no01:11:471104Astrology as a Path to Empowermentfull<![CDATA[I am Love - a Reflection on this month's affirmation]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice explore what came up for them this month as they reflect on #iamlove. How quick they are to confuse their actions with their essence, how the concept of love is much simpler than the action of it, and how maybe self love is the key to save the world. Take a listen and reflect on how love is given and received in your life.

26Feb2021

]]>f0ea28f6-48d9-4a74-8dd9-2e5ba7c429a8Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:39:50 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice explore what came up for them this month as they reflect on #iamlove. How quick they are to confuse their actions with their essence, how the concept of love is much simpler than the action of it, and how maybe self love is the key to save the world. Take a listen and reflect on how love is given and received in your life.</p><p></p><p>26Feb2021</p>no00:53:471103I am Love - a Reflection on this month's affirmationfull<![CDATA[Intuitive Eating with Chelsea Campbell]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice have the opportunity to talk with Registered Nurse and certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, Chelsea Campbell, to learn and talk about Intuitive Eating - the practice of, tuning into your body's signals, cues, and sensations to guide your self-care and your eating choices, as opposed to following some external set of rules like a diet or restrictive lifestyle. They talk about how this process can be done by all of us, and how it is a very important step on the path towards self-love, especially in the fatphobic world we live in. This episode is a must-listen, especially for those of us with a complicated relationship with our bodies and who desire to be freed from the suffering this causes us.

Other media referenced in this episode:

Podcast: Ten Percent Happier where one of the creators of Intuitive Eating, Evelyn Tribole, was interviewed, and in real-time during the episode, host Dan Harris has some amazing revelations about himself. It was re-aired in December 2020.

Book: "Intuitive Eating" and "Intuitive Eating Workbook"

17Feb2021

]]>ab62e0c3-566d-439c-a8ba-e805e931a9d4Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:38:56 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice have the opportunity to talk with Registered Nurse and certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, Chelsea Campbell, to learn and talk about Intuitive Eating - the practice of, tuning into your body's signals, cues, and sensations to guide your self-care and your eating choices, as opposed to following some external set of rules like a diet or restrictive lifestyle. They talk about how this process can be done by all of us, and how it is a very important step on the path towards self-love, especially in the fatphobic world we live in. This episode is a must-listen, especially for those of us with a complicated relationship with our bodies and who desire to be freed from the suffering this causes us.</p><p>Other media referenced in this episode:</p><p>Podcast: Ten Percent Happier where one of the creators of Intuitive Eating, Evelyn Tribole, was interviewed, and in real-time during the episode, host Dan Harris has some amazing revelations about himself. It was re-aired in December 2020.</p><p>Book: "Intuitive Eating" and "Intuitive Eating Workbook"</p><p></p><p>17Feb2021</p>no01:00:131102Intuitive Eating with Chelsea Campbellfull<![CDATA[I am Here]]>In their first podcast of 2021, and following in line with the #iamoula campaign, January's affirmation is #iamhere. In this episode, Kali and Bernice discuss what it means to be here in the present moment, here as a product of our own story, here as heirs to our ancestral story, and here as community members to a collective story. Their hope is that as you listen to their personal stories, it will encourage you to explore your own #iamhere story.

27Jan2021

]]>a25f482f-cf01-4f60-b3d4-70658f47a981Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:38:09 GMT<p>In their first podcast of 2021, and following in line with the #iamoula campaign, January's affirmation is #iamhere. In this episode, Kali and Bernice discuss what it means to be here in the present moment, here as a product of our own story, here as heirs to our ancestral story, and here as community members to a collective story. Their hope is that as you listen to their personal stories, it will encourage you to explore your own #iamhere story.</p><p></p><p>27Jan2021</p>no00:55:311101I am Herefull<![CDATA[The Sixth Pillar - Women's Empowerment]]>On the last episode of this series, Kali and Bernice talk about why empowering women, themselves included is work that they are called to do. They grapple and fumble over gender binary stereotypes, if they are creating inclusive spaces for all women and people in general and how they use Oula to empower themselves in their own lives. They also talk about the healing power of storytelling through music and movement, and how stories that aren't even our own can be felt deeply to create empathy in action and an opportunity to heal collective wounds.

01Jan2021

]]>ed056d7b-f4aa-4507-9f33-5d13a738caf2Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:37:00 GMT<p>On the last episode of this series, Kali and Bernice talk about why empowering women, themselves included is work that they are called to do. They grapple and fumble over gender binary stereotypes, if they are creating inclusive spaces for all women and people in general and how they use Oula to empower themselves in their own lives. They also talk about the healing power of storytelling through music and movement, and how stories that aren't even our own can be felt deeply to create empathy in action and an opportunity to heal collective wounds.</p><p></p><p>01Jan2021</p>no01:02:371100The Sixth Pillar - Women's Empowermentfull<![CDATA[2020 Vision: The Fifth Pillar - Self Image]]>In this penultimate, pandemic-ruled episode of this series, Bernice and Kali take a deep dive into their self image, how its motivated their lives, lesson they've learned, and freedoms they are still striving for. They also reflect on the gift of Oula for this safe space in which identity, image and perception fall away so that we can truly see one another at the soul level.

18Dec2020

]]>a538ddcb-daa3-4380-94ba-24ef4c3134b4Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:35:36 GMT<p>In this penultimate, pandemic-ruled episode of this series, Bernice and Kali take a deep dive into their self image, how its motivated their lives, lesson they've learned, and freedoms they are still striving for. They also reflect on the gift of Oula for this safe space in which identity, image and perception fall away so that we can truly see one another at the soul level.</p><p></p><p>18Dec2020</p>no01:03:201992020 Vision: The Fifth Pillar - Self Imagefull<![CDATA[2020 Vision: The Fourth Pillar - Personal Purpose]]>This episode is all about asking ourselves what is the purpose of finding our purpose? Bernice and Kali talk about their relationships with their purpose, how they struggle to know it, live it and also how it allows them to tap out of being present, because they want to go "fulfill their purpose!" The ego plays a huge role in purpose, and its shadow side can make a lot of things yucky pretty quickly. Thanks, as always, for listening and for being a part of this community!!

04Dec2020

]]>4afce93a-f537-41f8-b02b-754c65f77cb8Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:32:35 GMT<p>This episode is all about asking ourselves what is the purpose of finding our purpose? Bernice and Kali talk about their relationships with their purpose, how they struggle to know it, live it and also how it allows them to tap out of being present, because they want to go "fulfill their purpose!" The ego plays a huge role in purpose, and its shadow side can make a lot of things yucky pretty quickly. Thanks, as always, for listening and for being a part of this community!!</p><p></p><p>04Dec2020</p>no00:52:561982020 Vision: The Fourth Pillar - Personal Purposefull<![CDATA[2020 Vision: The Third Pillar - Spirituality]]>In Episode 3 of our 2020 Vision Series, Bernice and Kali talk about spirituality. This is the trigger warning for the episode, as they dive into their own beliefs and practices, as well as their observances about religion and its purpose, benefits and flaws. It's a big topic and they hope in some way it adds value to the listener's experience or provide at least some food for thought!

20Nov2020

]]>91ecd66c-b246-4c67-918d-a5e9f69e2686Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:31:39 GMT<p>In Episode 3 of our 2020 Vision Series, Bernice and Kali talk about spirituality. This is the trigger warning for the episode, as they dive into their own beliefs and practices, as well as their observances about religion and its purpose, benefits and flaws. It's a big topic and they hope in some way it adds value to the listener's experience or provide at least some food for thought!</p><p></p><p>20Nov2020</p>no01:12:031972020 Vision: The Third Pillar - Spiritualityfull<![CDATA[2020 Vision: The Second Pillar- Friendship]]>In Episode 2 of our 2020 Vision Series, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance that friendship plays in their lives. After being friends for nearly 10 years, they talk about their own friendship and their generation gap, what they look for in friends, why their friendships last (or not!) and the importance of maintaining them, especially through difficult times like Covid. Thank you to you, our friends, for being a part of our lives.

06Nov2020

]]>5275627a-c2ca-423d-b7a7-87fb6307d81dTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:30:37 GMT<p>In Episode 2 of our 2020 Vision Series, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance that friendship plays in their lives. After being friends for nearly 10 years, they talk about their own friendship and their generation gap, what they look for in friends, why their friendships last (or not!) and the importance of maintaining them, especially through difficult times like Covid. Thank you to you, our friends, for being a part of our lives.</p><p></p><p>06Nov2020</p>no00:51:281962020 Vision: The Second Pillar- Friendshipfull<![CDATA[2020 Vision: The First Pillar - Marriage]]>In Episode 1 of our 2020 Vision Series, Bernice and Kali talk about their relationship with marriage. How it's been affected by COVID, how its changed throughout the years, and how their marriage endures through rough waters. Self-deprecating, amusing and explicit, but always honest and authentic, these friends don't hold back on this one!

23Oct2020

]]>c071132d-3d96-4d53-ba0d-c4f73bdff2d4Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:29:40 GMT<p>In Episode 1 of our 2020 Vision Series, Bernice and Kali talk about their relationship with marriage. How it's been affected by COVID, how its changed throughout the years, and how their marriage endures through rough waters. Self-deprecating, amusing and explicit, but always honest and authentic, these friends don't hold back on this one!</p><p></p><p>23Oct2020</p>no00:56:181952020 Vision: The First Pillar - Marriagefull<![CDATA[Reflections from the Past 6 Month]]>Kali and Bernice are back after a pause for reflection.  In this episode, they talk about some of the more difficult questions they've been asking themselves during this confusing time.  They offer insight into their own struggles and fears and questions that keep them up at night.   Podcasts referenced:  Brene Brown's Unlocking Us- "On My Mind: RBG, Surge Capacity, and Play as an Energy Source" Super Soul Sunday- "What Does Purpose Really Look Like- with Wes Moore"

09Oct2020

]]>b600f062-d638-4a9b-8e52-dd6b91c7233cTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:28:55 GMT<p>Kali and Bernice are back after a pause for reflection.  In this episode, they talk about some of the more difficult questions they've been asking themselves during this confusing time.  They offer insight into their own struggles and fears and questions that keep them up at night.   Podcasts referenced:  Brene Brown's Unlocking Us- "On My Mind: RBG, Surge Capacity, and Play as an Energy Source" Super Soul Sunday- "What Does Purpose Really Look Like- with Wes Moore"</p><p></p><p>09Oct2020</p>no00:52:36194Reflections from the Past 6 Monthfull<![CDATA[We are all Losers! That's What Makes OULA Special]]>As we are approaching our 10 year anniversary at OULA, we have been taking a good look at our marketing and branding and have been working with experts to help us hone in on message and voice. One idea that Bernice came up with is the concept that we've all lost something, and we can find it through OULA. It could be loss of health, community, relationships, people and even ourselves. What we can find through music, movement and community sometimes feels like the missing puzzle pieces of ourselves and lives, even if we didn't realize they are missing. Of course, it wouldn't be a Mind-Body Stuff podcast without several digressions into masks, humor, parenting, stories and lots of laughter.

21Jul2020

]]>5acce0cb-c076-44a5-aa55-fac6d9261df8Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:27:52 GMT<p>As we are approaching our 10 year anniversary at OULA, we have been taking a good look at our marketing and branding and have been working with experts to help us hone in on message and voice. One idea that Bernice came up with is the concept that we've all lost something, and we can find it through OULA. It could be loss of health, community, relationships, people and even ourselves. What we can find through music, movement and community sometimes feels like the missing puzzle pieces of ourselves and lives, even if we didn't realize they are missing. Of course, it wouldn't be a Mind-Body Stuff podcast without several digressions into masks, humor, parenting, stories and lots of laughter.</p><p></p><p>21Jul2020</p>no00:52:05193We are all Losers! That's What Makes OULA Specialfull<![CDATA[Truth and Shame]]>In this podcast, Kali and Bernice explore their own truths and the shock when they are not universal. They go on to discuss that if these truths are not universal, do they become less meaningful to the individual who holds them. Can you still hold your space and also hold space for another's truth? They also speak about how women are so tuned into the power of shame and wield it as a weapon. What can we learn about how to hold space for another's truth without shaming them for being different?

01Jul2020

]]>e82b7b43-a419-471b-90bc-7388616ed35cTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:26:47 GMT<p>In this podcast, Kali and Bernice explore their own truths and the shock when they are not universal. They go on to discuss that if these truths are not universal, do they become less meaningful to the individual who holds them. Can you still hold your space and also hold space for another's truth? They also speak about how women are so tuned into the power of shame and wield it as a weapon. What can we learn about how to hold space for another's truth without shaming them for being different?</p><p></p><p>01Jul2020</p>no00:59:26192Truth and Shamefull<![CDATA[Pause and Pivot]]>It was week 10 of COVID-19 and Bernice and Kali talk about the Great Pause and how they are pivoting personally and also as OULA Fitness. They recorded this podcast live on Instagram and as always, asked the big questions, laughed inappropriately and spoke with fervor and passion!

07Jun2020

]]>b6770e10-27af-4a5f-a211-52318d309772Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:25:49 GMT<p>It was week 10 of COVID-19 and Bernice and Kali talk about the Great Pause and how they are pivoting personally and also as OULA Fitness. They recorded this podcast live on Instagram and as always, asked the big questions, laughed inappropriately and spoke with fervor and passion!</p><p></p><p>07Jun2020</p>no00:47:27191Pause and Pivotfull<![CDATA[Life in the Time Of Coronavirus]]>Our podcast this week is all about life in the time of Coronavirus. How we're staying sane, how we're sitting with uncertainties and fear, how humor is so important to mental health. In these unprecedented times, we are trying to find hope and lightness so that we can get through-- stronger, more connected, grateful and wiser-- on the other side.

25Mar2020

]]>6d60a923-b6e6-4989-b086-980a344857bdTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:24:32 GMT<p>Our podcast this week is all about life in the time of Coronavirus. How we're staying sane, how we're sitting with uncertainties and fear, how humor is so important to mental health. In these unprecedented times, we are trying to find hope and lightness so that we can get through-- stronger, more connected, grateful and wiser-- on the other side.</p><p></p><p>25Mar2020</p>no00:46:45190Life in the Time Of Coronavirusfull<![CDATA[The Complicated Reality of Being a Social Creature]]>In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about all things social, from COVID-19, awkward interactions at parties, the safety of an OULA circle and (inspired by Glennon Doyle's new book) becoming Untamed. They talk about their collaborative relationship and how their ego may tell them they're not enough on their own but really their magic is when they come together to create. As humans, social creatures, it can be so hard to navigate the connection that we equally crave and fear, but how important it is for the expansiveness of humanity.

16Mar2020

]]>36be8e9a-5528-4a2c-98e2-13b098339afaTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:23:44 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about all things social, from COVID-19, awkward interactions at parties, the safety of an OULA circle and (inspired by Glennon Doyle's new book) becoming Untamed. They talk about their collaborative relationship and how their ego may tell them they're not enough on their own but really their magic is when they come together to create. As humans, social creatures, it can be so hard to navigate the connection that we equally crave and fear, but how important it is for the expansiveness of humanity.</p><p></p><p>16Mar2020</p>no01:03:02189The Complicated Reality of Being a Social Creaturefull<![CDATA[What the Super Bowl Told Us About Women's Empowerment]]>Kali and Bernice are back at the mic after taking a bit of a hiatus! The Super Bowl sprung them out of Podcast Retirement because they were all fired up about peoples' responses to the halftime show. On this podcast they try to understand the strong push back that men and women alike gave to Shakira and JLo's performance! As you can imagine, Bernice was pole dancing while watching it and Kali and her girls were talking about whose costumes were their favorite without even a clue that this was going to be controversial. Is it fear based? Is it learned? Is it from the Puritans? Is it from our witchy background being burned at the stake? WHAT IS IT? Take a listen to our perspective!

12Feb2020

]]>48d50be4-4273-4d14-8a07-54da97ac322aTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:22:38 GMT<p>Kali and Bernice are back at the mic after taking a bit of a hiatus! The Super Bowl sprung them out of Podcast Retirement because they were all fired up about peoples' responses to the halftime show. On this podcast they try to understand the strong push back that men and women alike gave to Shakira and JLo's performance! As you can imagine, Bernice was pole dancing while watching it and Kali and her girls were talking about whose costumes were their favorite without even a clue that this was going to be controversial. Is it fear based? Is it learned? Is it from the Puritans? Is it from our witchy background being burned at the stake? WHAT IS IT? Take a listen to our perspective!</p><p></p><p>12Feb2020</p>no00:53:15188What the Super Bowl Told Us About Women's Empowermentfull<![CDATA[You Can't Rush Your Healing]]>This week, Bernice and Kali discuss our human tendency to rationalize grief. The truth is, grief doesn't follow the rules. It can not be compared or put on a timeline or diminished and whatever you are feeling right now, and especially during the holiday season, deserves your attention. They talk about their own experiences with loss and grief and even their own shame about their grief. Have you ever felt like you shouldn't be so sad about something because someone has it worse? Yes this thought process can sometimes be of assistance with cultivating gratitude, but it can also stop you from fully feeling what is coming up. We hope this podcast gives you permission to be sad or disappointed or longing during the holidays.

10Dec2019

]]>e8a51dff-f75b-490a-b49a-4f1615f406a4Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:21:37 GMT<p>This week, Bernice and Kali discuss our human tendency to rationalize grief. The truth is, grief doesn't follow the rules. It can not be compared or put on a timeline or diminished and whatever you are feeling right now, and especially during the holiday season, deserves your attention. They talk about their own experiences with loss and grief and even their own shame about their grief. Have you ever felt like you shouldn't be so sad about something because someone has it worse? Yes this thought process can sometimes be of assistance with cultivating gratitude, but it can also stop you from fully feeling what is coming up. We hope this podcast gives you permission to be sad or disappointed or longing during the holidays.</p><p></p><p>10Dec2019</p>no00:45:21187You Can't Rush Your Healingfull<![CDATA[Ancestral Wisdom and our Search for Belonging]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali refer to their new song of the week, "She'd Say" by Andy Grammer, about what his mother who has passed would say to his daughter. This song prompted them to reflect on their own knowledge of their lineage and how to tap into ancestral wisdom. They wrestle with cultural appropriation and their longing for connection to the wisdom that elders hold. Their ancestors migrated to the United States, and like so many others, lost their ancestral wisdom. Did they give it up, was it taken from them, where is it and how do we find it?

04Dec2019

]]>f14d0403-c5f7-48d9-8a41-31c22c1615c0Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:20:43 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali refer to their new song of the week, "She'd Say" by Andy Grammer, about what his mother who has passed would say to his daughter. This song prompted them to reflect on their own knowledge of their lineage and how to tap into ancestral wisdom. They wrestle with cultural appropriation and their longing for connection to the wisdom that elders hold. Their ancestors migrated to the United States, and like so many others, lost their ancestral wisdom. Did they give it up, was it taken from them, where is it and how do we find it?</p><p></p><p>04Dec2019</p>no00:43:17186Ancestral Wisdom and our Search for Belongingfull<![CDATA[Why We Self-Sabotage]]>Today, Bernice and Kali talk about self-sabotage, after being prompted by the new song of the week, Flames by R3HAB & ZAYN. They share different times in their lives when they have either self-sabotaged or almost self-sabotaged. They explore why we self-sabotage and what the fear is that lies under this need to destruct. It oftentimes comes down to a desire to control outcome or triggers feelings of shame or unworthiness. We have to identify where the desire for this behavior is coming from and what are the outcomes if we choose to self-sabotage.

03Dec2019

]]>3a78c387-d48c-41d5-9f3f-0f5650622d2fTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:19:57 GMT<p>Today, Bernice and Kali talk about self-sabotage, after being prompted by the new song of the week, Flames by R3HAB &amp; ZAYN. They share different times in their lives when they have either self-sabotaged or almost self-sabotaged. They explore why we self-sabotage and what the fear is that lies under this need to destruct. It oftentimes comes down to a desire to control outcome or triggers feelings of shame or unworthiness. We have to identify where the desire for this behavior is coming from and what are the outcomes if we choose to self-sabotage.</p><p></p><p>03Dec2019</p>no00:49:05185Why We Self-Sabotagefull<![CDATA[Imposter Syndrome- Do you Feel Like You're Faking it?]]>This week, Kali and Bernice respond to a listener's message about feeling like an imposter. They explore why we doubt ourselves and how to believe in ourselves. Imposter Syndrome is common and can either make us want to shrink or over-inflate to compensate for our feelings of inadequacy. They talk about where they feel inadequate and imposters in their own lives and roles and hopefully give some tips for how to manage your own feelings of being an imposter.

19Nov2019

]]>53a8ca2c-741d-412e-9b2f-85c62c8f16f3Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:16:42 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice respond to a listener's message about feeling like an imposter. They explore why we doubt ourselves and how to believe in ourselves. Imposter Syndrome is common and can either make us want to shrink or over-inflate to compensate for our feelings of inadequacy. They talk about where they feel inadequate and imposters in their own lives and roles and hopefully give some tips for how to manage your own feelings of being an imposter.</p><p></p><p>19Nov2019</p>no00:48:02184Imposter Syndrome- Do you Feel Like You're Faking it?full<![CDATA[Celebrate to Elevate]]>Do you have enough joy in your life? This week, Bernice and Kali share their epiphany that celebrating is the best way to elevate. They apply it to OULA, their personal lives, the work they are doing and the work they have yet to do. With our puritanical background of the importance of work ethic and focus on doing rather than being, we can get lost in how to find joy. When celebrating doesn't have to be earned, we can experience gratitude and joy for the simple pleasures of life. Because isn't that what it's all about?

12Nov2019

]]>44b09e94-45c2-4fc0-88e8-cfab2419105aTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:15:50 GMT<p>Do you have enough joy in your life? This week, Bernice and Kali share their epiphany that celebrating is the best way to elevate. They apply it to OULA, their personal lives, the work they are doing and the work they have yet to do. With our puritanical background of the importance of work ethic and focus on doing rather than being, we can get lost in how to find joy. When celebrating doesn't have to be earned, we can experience gratitude and joy for the simple pleasures of life. Because isn't that what it's all about?</p><p></p><p>12Nov2019</p>no00:44:51183Celebrate to Elevatefull<![CDATA[Why Do You Do The Things You Do?]]>Today, Bernice and Kali dive into the sources of motivation for humans and for themselves. They talk about modern society's obsession with instant gratification and our lack of patience, which is why it is so hard for us to stay curious about what motivates us. When we get so addicted to the outcome (as proven by Skinner and Behavioral Psychology), we forget to deeply connect to our motivation. Why do we do the things that we do? And do they give us satisfaction or are they just fulfilling our want for power, recognition and other ailments of the ego. Article referenced by Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net/how-to-be-patient Enneagram Test: https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test

05Nov2019

]]>d2884a17-55da-4dd9-83de-deac377a472eTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:15:01 GMT<p>Today, Bernice and Kali dive into the sources of motivation for humans and for themselves. They talk about modern society's obsession with instant gratification and our lack of patience, which is why it is so hard for us to stay curious about what motivates us. When we get so addicted to the outcome (as proven by Skinner and Behavioral Psychology), we forget to deeply connect to our motivation. Why do we do the things that we do? And do they give us satisfaction or are they just fulfilling our want for power, recognition and other ailments of the ego. Article referenced by Mark Manson: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://markmanson.net/how-to-be-patient" target="_blank">https://markmanson.net/how-to-be-patient</a> Enneagram Test: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test" target="_blank">https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test</a></p><p></p><p>05Nov2019</p>no00:57:58182Why Do You Do The Things You Do?full<![CDATA[Oula Tulum and the Importance of Group Work]]>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about their trip to Tulum, what they learned about humanity and the importance of doing self work in a group setting. So many of us struggle with vulnerability and upholding the image that everything is fine! But in group work we learn that many of our struggles are shared and that we are not alone. With social media, especially, we feel inadequate to our peers and to ourselves and through personal work we in the group we get to realize that there is usually always a fear of being unloved or unaccepted that these fears affect us all and drive our actions and reactions. Take a listen and find a group! Or.... sign up for one of our workshops at www.oulafitness.com

29Oct2019

]]>253d384b-b639-4720-95f4-d3cb4b3e08a7Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:14:07 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about their trip to Tulum, what they learned about humanity and the importance of doing self work in a group setting. So many of us struggle with vulnerability and upholding the image that everything is fine! But in group work we learn that many of our struggles are shared and that we are not alone. With social media, especially, we feel inadequate to our peers and to ourselves and through personal work we in the group we get to realize that there is usually always a fear of being unloved or unaccepted that these fears affect us all and drive our actions and reactions. Take a listen and find a group! Or.... sign up for one of our workshops at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.oulafitness.com" target="_blank">www.oulafitness.com</a></p><p></p><p>29Oct2019</p>no00:38:03181Oula Tulum and the Importance of Group Workfull<![CDATA[How Do You Do Conflict?]]>This week, Bernice and Kali talk about something that came up in the last podcast- why they avoid conflict. They both explore their reasons, which inextricably are connected to their fears, and their tendency to avoid when things get hard. They also note their differences in how they handle conflict and which conflicts are more intimidating. They talk about the importance of logic and reason when dealing with conflict and how to engage without becoming overly emotional. How do YOU do conflict?

15Oct2019

]]>b7ca60ae-a1de-4d3b-8352-3bec5d8fd12fTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:13:13 GMT<p>This week, Bernice and Kali talk about something that came up in the last podcast- why they avoid conflict. They both explore their reasons, which inextricably are connected to their fears, and their tendency to avoid when things get hard. They also note their differences in how they handle conflict and which conflicts are more intimidating. They talk about the importance of logic and reason when dealing with conflict and how to engage without becoming overly emotional. How do YOU do conflict?</p><p></p><p>15Oct2019</p>no00:40:13180How Do You Do Conflict?full<![CDATA[Are You Hearing Voices?]]>There are a lot of voices going on in this podcast! With a strong focus on sexuality (not appropriate for kids!), we eventually get to our topic: 5 Voices- How to Communicate Effectively with Everyone You Lead by Jeremie Kubicek and Steve Cockram. Kali and Bernice go over the 5 different communication profiles that are explored in this book. They then reflect on their own styles, the styles of their partners and their workplace. Learn your communication style here: https://5voices.com/assessment/

01Oct2019

]]>12ced073-2ad6-4845-88fe-0464bbacafefTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:12:24 GMT<p>There are a lot of voices going on in this podcast! With a strong focus on sexuality (not appropriate for kids!), we eventually get to our topic: 5 Voices- How to Communicate Effectively with Everyone You Lead by Jeremie Kubicek and Steve Cockram. Kali and Bernice go over the 5 different communication profiles that are explored in this book. They then reflect on their own styles, the styles of their partners and their workplace. Learn your communication style here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://5voices.com/assessment/" target="_blank">https://5voices.com/assessment/</a></p><p></p><p>01Oct2019</p><p></p><p></p>no00:46:00179Are You Hearing Voices?full<![CDATA[Have You Hit Emotional Puberty?]]>Have you hit emotional puberty? Because our emotional voices are cracking! Bernice and Kali talk about a couple of situations in which their reactions were on the, one would say, immature side:) They question how to feel their feelings, validate their emotional experiences, but not become overwhelmed and reactive. They talk about the importance of justice, and conclude that it's not always theirs to serve, even though they think it will feel good if they do. Are you in emotional puberty, too? Take a listen and see where you are on the maturity scale!

24Sep2019

]]>1991e92f-3b6d-4e1f-a96b-18b71447349bTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:11:34 GMT<p>Have you hit emotional puberty? Because our emotional voices are cracking! Bernice and Kali talk about a couple of situations in which their reactions were on the, one would say, immature side:) They question how to feel their feelings, validate their emotional experiences, but not become overwhelmed and reactive. They talk about the importance of justice, and conclude that it's not always theirs to serve, even though they think it will feel good if they do. Are you in emotional puberty, too? Take a listen and see where you are on the maturity scale!</p><p></p><p>24Sep2019</p>no00:46:07178Have You Hit Emotional Puberty?full<![CDATA[Interview with Claire Robertson-Preis- Musical Genius]]>In this episode, we interview Classical Singer and Oula Enthusiast, Claire Robertson-Preis. After many post Oula.One conversations, we decided it was time to pick this woman's brain-- on air! She takes on a magical, musical journey where we delve into synesthesia, the chakras, the 3 circles of energy and where we are in relation to not only music, but our physical and emotional reactions to it. Take a listen and be blown away by your own body and how you can interpret music. This could change everything for you.

17Sep2019

]]>85667149-b197-471b-b756-782e1ca14e14Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:10:47 GMT<p>In this episode, we interview Classical Singer and Oula Enthusiast, Claire Robertson-Preis. After many post <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://Oula.One" target="_blank">Oula.One</a> conversations, we decided it was time to pick this woman's brain-- on air! She takes on a magical, musical journey where we delve into synesthesia, the chakras, the 3 circles of energy and where we are in relation to not only music, but our physical and emotional reactions to it. Take a listen and be blown away by your own body and how you can interpret music. This could change everything for you.</p><p></p><p>17Sep2019</p>no01:06:04177Interview with Claire Robertson-Preis- Musical Geniusfull<![CDATA[Have You Become Unrecognizable?]]>Thanks to a listener write-in, today Bernice and Kali talk about what happens when you become unrecognizable or when someone you love becomes unrecognizable. What do you do with this? As always, they encourage themselves and listeners to stay curious about the lessons, the blessings and the heartaches of these confusing times. In all long term relationships, with ourselves and with others, we will be confronted with these times of confusion and potential growth.

10Sep2019

]]>bdad288e-a47b-417d-bb97-8460d5ba5759Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:09:48 GMT<p>Thanks to a listener write-in, today Bernice and Kali talk about what happens when you become unrecognizable or when someone you love becomes unrecognizable. What do you do with this? As always, they encourage themselves and listeners to stay curious about the lessons, the blessings and the heartaches of these confusing times. In all long term relationships, with ourselves and with others, we will be confronted with these times of confusion and potential growth.</p><p></p><p>10Sep2019</p>no00:49:41176Have You Become Unrecognizable?full<![CDATA[Traveling- The Good, The Bad and the Ugly]]>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about traveling. This lighthearted podcast invites in accents, foreign lovers and romantic interludes of their 20's. They also talk about the importance of leaving your own routine and the many gifts of travel- both good and bad.

03Sep2019

]]>ce34ff06-240e-472f-af23-e79ffc68116dTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:09:04 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about traveling. This lighthearted podcast invites in accents, foreign lovers and romantic interludes of their 20's. They also talk about the importance of leaving your own routine and the many gifts of travel- both good and bad.</p><p></p><p>03Sep2019</p>no00:52:26175Traveling- The Good, The Bad and the Uglyfull<![CDATA[When You're Saying 'I'm F*cked,' It's Not Over.]]>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about transitions in life in general and in their own lives. They highlight the struggles people have with transition and reflect on their own philosophies and strategies in navigating the unknown of change.

27Aug2019

]]>1415a6f4-91ea-4672-a7f2-625d512546bbTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:08:02 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about transitions in life in general and in their own lives. They highlight the struggles people have with transition and reflect on their own philosophies and strategies in navigating the unknown of change.</p><p></p><p>27Aug2019</p>yes00:50:05174When You're Saying 'I'm F*cked,' It's Not Over.full<![CDATA[Science or Spirit: Alternative forms of healing]]>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali explore alternative forms of healing. After a soul retrieval this past weekend, Kali has a lot to share about the experience and how healing it was. They talk about their opinions, skepticism, and curiosity about both Western medicine and alternative forms of healing.

20Aug2019

]]>f5fe27e0-5545-4463-978e-38296c1475e9Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:07:16 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali explore alternative forms of healing. After a soul retrieval this past weekend, Kali has a lot to share about the experience and how healing it was. They talk about their opinions, skepticism, and curiosity about both Western medicine and alternative forms of healing.</p><p></p><p>20Aug2019</p>no00:47:57173Science or Spirit: Alternative forms of healingfull<![CDATA[The Power of Manifestation]]>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about the negative and positive aspects of putting thoughts into spoken word and the power that those words hold. They look at the role that fear plays in our desire to manifest and question their own definition of success. They explore their own experiences with manifestation, ambivalence, and enough-ness.

13Aug2019

]]>a61d9dff-1411-4073-afd0-8c9ae523b8e7Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:06:31 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Bernice and Kali talk about the negative and positive aspects of putting thoughts into spoken word and the power that those words hold. They look at the role that fear plays in our desire to manifest and question their own definition of success. They explore their own experiences with manifestation, ambivalence, and enough-ness.</p><p></p><p>13Aug2019</p>no00:56:38172The Power of Manifestationfull<![CDATA[Aging]]>This podcast starts with Kali going into journalist mode while asking the Queen B about her experience turning 57 last week. They then venture into their spirit ages (10 and 21) and how that affects how they feel as they age, their struggles reconciling the two and the affects (sometimes SHOCKING) that aging has had on their body. Hopefully you'll be laughing as you listen and reflect on your aging process.

06Aug2019

]]>b6edc4a4-c886-4f48-9582-432b66951d7bTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:05:43 GMT<p>This podcast starts with Kali going into journalist mode while asking the Queen B about her experience turning 57 last week. They then venture into their spirit ages (10 and 21) and how that affects how they feel as they age, their struggles reconciling the two and the affects (sometimes SHOCKING) that aging has had on their body. Hopefully you'll be laughing as you listen and reflect on your aging process.</p><p></p><p>06Aug2019</p>no00:51:23171Agingfull<![CDATA[Does Utopia Exist?]]>Bernice and Kali talk about the problems that can arise when expectations are not met in many aspects of life, and also in OULA. The disappointment that people can feel when they realize that OULA is not a Utopia can be very hard for them to accept. They explore that nothing that involves humans is a utopia, because no one and nothing is perfect. They hope that OULA is faction of learning about life and human interaction- which will always be messy, beautiful, challenging and worth it!

30Jul2019

]]>60354fe8-8c64-4870-9dbc-6648259399cbTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:04:47 GMT<p>Bernice and Kali talk about the problems that can arise when expectations are not met in many aspects of life, and also in OULA. The disappointment that people can feel when they realize that OULA is not a Utopia can be very hard for them to accept. They explore that nothing that involves humans is a utopia, because no one and nothing is perfect. They hope that OULA is faction of learning about life and human interaction- which will always be messy, beautiful, challenging and worth it!</p><p></p><p>30Jul2019</p>no00:52:50170Does Utopia Exist?full<![CDATA[Adulting is Hard!]]>This week, Kali and Bernice talk about how hard it is being an adult! They talk about the expectations they had about how they would feel when they magically became this thing called "adult" and how the reality doesn't match the expectation. They also talk about wanting to hear the words "I am proud of you" and how surprised they are at their need to hear it. They share, as always, personal stories with honesty and humor with the hope that it makes people feel connected and not so lonely out there in Grown Up Land!

23Jul2026

]]>78f0f6f0-70b8-49e2-89c3-e09843c35f01Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:03:53 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice talk about how hard it is being an adult! They talk about the expectations they had about how they would feel when they magically became this thing called "adult" and how the reality doesn't match the expectation. They also talk about wanting to hear the words "I am proud of you" and how surprised they are at their need to hear it. They share, as always, personal stories with honesty and humor with the hope that it makes people feel connected and not so lonely out there in Grown Up Land!</p><p></p><p>23Jul2026</p>no00:46:14169Adulting is Hard!full<![CDATA[Anger Management]]>Shut up! I'm not angry, you're angry! Today, Bernice and Kali have a heated discussion about anger! As one of the five basic emotions, anger is a fiery one that can intoxicate us with its power. But it also can overwhelm us, make us sick and destroy relationships. They question when anger can be beneficial and when it can be detrimental. Take a listen and see where you lie on the anger spectrum.

16Jul2019

]]>90b458b3-78ba-4e74-99ad-77cf7335c1eeTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:03:12 GMT<p>Shut up! I'm not angry, you're angry! Today, Bernice and Kali have a heated discussion about anger! As one of the five basic emotions, anger is a fiery one that can intoxicate us with its power. But it also can overwhelm us, make us sick and destroy relationships. They question when anger can be beneficial and when it can be detrimental. Take a listen and see where you lie on the anger spectrum.</p><p></p><p>16Jul2019</p>no00:52:00168Anger Managementfull<![CDATA[Respite]]>Do you need a vacation? Is it hard for you to leave? Kali and Bernice talk about how hard it is to vacate, but how important it is to take a break from your life sometimes! They wonder why it is so hard to do just that, and they blame it on the Puritans for the massive guilt most of us feel about resting!

02Jul2019

]]>54811e09-c350-4ba0-a79d-4d6f69450abdTue, 28 Jul 2026 07:02:21 GMT<p>Do you need a vacation? Is it hard for you to leave? Kali and Bernice talk about how hard it is to vacate, but how important it is to take a break from your life sometimes! They wonder why it is so hard to do just that, and they blame it on the Puritans for the massive guilt most of us feel about resting!</p><p></p><p>02Jul2019</p>no00:34:21167Respitefull<![CDATA[Forgiveness]]>This week, Bernice and Kali discuss one of the hardest lessons for the heart; forgiveness. They explore how hard it is to forgive, but also that the true gift of forgiveness is to ourselves. The body holds trauma, anger, resentment and other emotions that can be released when we forgive. When we release these emotions, we can create space for light, love and healing.

25Jun2019

]]>fbc3edd7-9656-44d8-81b3-787c2fc69b28Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:01:26 GMT<p>This week, Bernice and Kali discuss one of the hardest lessons for the heart; forgiveness. They explore how hard it is to forgive, but also that the true gift of forgiveness is to ourselves. The body holds trauma, anger, resentment and other emotions that can be released when we forgive. When we release these emotions, we can create space for light, love and healing.</p><p></p><p>25Jun2019</p>no00:50:56166Forgivenessfull<![CDATA[Resiliency]]>This week, Kali and Bernice, talk about Resiliency - what is it, do you have it, can you learn it. They discuss their own relationships with resiliency and their desire to instill resilience in their children. Take a listen if you, like they, have ever wished you were more resilient :)

18Jun2019

]]>9085fdde-af42-49e4-aa11-5b870e58cf13Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:00:24 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice, talk about Resiliency - what is it, do you have it, can you learn it. They discuss their own relationships with resiliency and their desire to instill resilience in their children. Take a listen if you, like they, have ever wished you were more resilient :)</p><p></p><p>18Jun2019</p>no00:43:47165Resiliencyfull<![CDATA[OMG, did you hear about...?]]>This week, Kali and Bernice gossip about GOSSIP! They talk about the fascinating role that gossip has played in homo sapiens' evolution. Gossip has helped our species create sophisticated social dynamics but also has been used to hurt and isolate members from the community. Be prepared for lots of laughing and if you like emus, well, we're sorry.

11Jun2019

]]>6d9e28ca-c402-41c5-b568-87646609abb5Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:59:42 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice gossip about GOSSIP! They talk about the fascinating role that gossip has played in homo sapiens' evolution. Gossip has helped our species create sophisticated social dynamics but also has been used to hurt and isolate members from the community. Be prepared for lots of laughing and if you like emus, well, we're sorry.</p><p></p><p>11Jun2019</p>no00:45:04164OMG, did you hear about...?full<![CDATA[When to Accept, When to Improve]]>Kali and Bernice explore the relationship between self-acceptance and self-improvement. When and how do we reconcile the desire to change something about ourselves and the desire for self love and acceptance? The recognize that most of our personal suffering is because of unhealthy patterns of behavior or thought or societal pressures to conform and grapple with and form a plan for self-actualization.

04Jun2019

]]>1c702d03-7224-4e41-b3d7-a81875cd6e84Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:58:47 GMT<p>Kali and Bernice explore the relationship between self-acceptance and self-improvement. When and how do we reconcile the desire to change something about ourselves and the desire for self love and acceptance? The recognize that most of our personal suffering is because of unhealthy patterns of behavior or thought or societal pressures to conform and grapple with and form a plan for self-actualization.</p><p></p><p>04Jun2019</p>no00:46:56163When to Accept, When to Improvefull<![CDATA[Interview with Chelle Bird: Body Image]]>Kali and Bernice interview Chelle Bird, Director of Oula in the Twin Cities. Chelle shares her body journey through Oula and pregnancy and the three women talk about how normal it is for women to engage in toxic conversation about their bodies. They struggle with their own perceptions of their bodies and their desire to change how women view their bodies. They acknowledge that we live in a society that has a powerful voice in how women should look, and how we all can get caught up in this message, but ultimately want to be the model for change.

27May2019

]]>0bbcf026-776c-4f85-b32f-452e214333b0Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:57:53 GMT<p>Kali and Bernice interview Chelle Bird, Director of Oula in the Twin Cities. Chelle shares her body journey through Oula and pregnancy and the three women talk about how normal it is for women to engage in toxic conversation about their bodies. They struggle with their own perceptions of their bodies and their desire to change how women view their bodies. They acknowledge that we live in a society that has a powerful voice in how women should look, and how we all can get caught up in this message, but ultimately want to be the model for change.</p><p></p><p>27May2019</p>no00:51:13162Interview with Chelle Bird: Body Imagefull<![CDATA[On the Defense]]>Do you ever wish you could be more connected? Do your defenses get in the way of your connection? In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about how it became so apparent over the last Empowerment weekend that we are all searching for connection but how we can't truly experience it until we let our defenses down. But, we are terrified! They explore an incident that happened during their time in L.A. that really brought this whole concept to light!

20May2019

]]>8c3c02c5-012e-4aff-9d4e-64430a7c52ceTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:57:07 GMT<p>Do you ever wish you could be more connected? Do your defenses get in the way of your connection? In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about how it became so apparent over the last Empowerment weekend that we are all searching for connection but how we can't truly experience it until we let our defenses down. But, we are terrified! They explore an incident that happened during their time in L.A. that really brought this whole concept to light!</p><p></p><p>20May2019</p>no00:47:28161On the Defensefull<![CDATA[Being a Mom]]>This week, Kali and Bernice talk about their experiences being a mom. The highs, the lows, the difficulties that they experience finding the balance between "mom" and "me" and how motherhood has changed them. Very true to themselves and this podcast, they are open and vulnerable about this world's most challenging job: Mom.

13May2019

]]>946ad415-db51-4f20-b7e8-fa1652c07e74Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:56:16 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice talk about their experiences being a mom. The highs, the lows, the difficulties that they experience finding the balance between "mom" and "me" and how motherhood has changed them. Very true to themselves and this podcast, they are open and vulnerable about this world's most challenging job: Mom.</p><p></p><p>13May2019</p>no00:47:39160Being a Momfull<![CDATA[Leaning Into Physical Discomfort]]>Ooh, ouch! How comfortable are you with physical discomfort? In our modern age, physical discomfort isn't part of the paradigm anymore. Now, this is NOT about chronic pain, this is about the discomfort you feel when you use your body physically! Why are we so comfortable with mental and emotional discomfort, but not with physical discomfort? This week, Kali and Bernice explore, both in Oula and in the industrialized world, how humans have the luxury to tap out when things get hard.

06May2019

]]>dcf8300b-300e-43b2-be8e-6f72dde29a44Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:55:26 GMT<p>Ooh, ouch! How comfortable are you with physical discomfort? In our modern age, physical discomfort isn't part of the paradigm anymore. Now, this is NOT about chronic pain, this is about the discomfort you feel when you use your body physically! Why are we so comfortable with mental and emotional discomfort, but not with physical discomfort? This week, Kali and Bernice explore, both in Oula and in the industrialized world, how humans have the luxury to tap out when things get hard.</p><p></p><p>06May2019</p>no00:39:52159Leaning Into Physical Discomfortfull<![CDATA[Joy!]]>This week's podcast was inspired by Brene Brown's Netflix special, A Call to Courage. One of the most fascinating parts of this talk to Kali and Bernice was the concept of joy! They explore their own relationship with joy and, like 95% of folks Brene researched, how problematic it is because they always keep the darkness so close. They go on to talk about their desire to stay in the light more often by focusing on gratitude, presence and joy.

29Apr2019

]]>4b483cd2-7e9c-4304-8fb4-d0a457c98efaTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:54:39 GMT<p>This week's podcast was inspired by Brene Brown's Netflix special, A Call to Courage. One of the most fascinating parts of this talk to Kali and Bernice was the concept of joy! They explore their own relationship with joy and, like 95% of folks Brene researched, how problematic it is because they always keep the darkness so close. They go on to talk about their desire to stay in the light more often by focusing on gratitude, presence and joy.</p><p></p><p>29Apr2019</p>no00:46:28158Joy!full<![CDATA[Inclusiveness]]>This week, Kali and Bernice discuss a topic that has come up a lot recently about inclusiveness and creating safe spaces in Oula for people of all walks of life. They refer to an email sent by a listener and dive into some really interesting questions, one of the biggest being whether by being overly inclusive, we are actually using our own judgment and biases and may mistakenly be excluding those we wish to include! They offer tips on how to practice being more inclusive as an instructor and participant.

22Apr2019

]]>310b2abe-c5d3-47ca-a31b-44b2fcebbfe2Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:53:43 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice discuss a topic that has come up a lot recently about inclusiveness and creating safe spaces in Oula for people of all walks of life. They refer to an email sent by a listener and dive into some really interesting questions, one of the biggest being whether by being overly inclusive, we are actually using our own judgment and biases and may mistakenly be excluding those we wish to include! They offer tips on how to practice being more inclusive as an instructor and participant.</p><p></p><p>22Apr2019</p>no00:43:16157Inclusivenessfull<![CDATA[Opening the Door]]>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice honor the lessons that spring teaches us - after death comes rebirth. Transitions are painful for many of us so we cling to situations that are no longer working, relationships that are no longer healthy, and lives that are no longer meant for us. They explore the beauty of letting go so that you can open the door to all that awaits you.

15Apr2019

]]>7268f082-3e49-4965-98ba-593e6e951b6dTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:52:46 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice honor the lessons that spring teaches us - after death comes rebirth. Transitions are painful for many of us so we cling to situations that are no longer working, relationships that are no longer healthy, and lives that are no longer meant for us. They explore the beauty of letting go so that you can open the door to all that awaits you.</p><p></p><p>15Apr2019</p>no00:43:1456Opening the Doorfull<![CDATA[ The Husbands, Part 2: Mike]]>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice interview Bernice's husband, Mike. They hear about how he perceives his wife's work and how he supports her in it. Kali asks if Bernice is ever going to get that proposal after 27 years. Tune in to find out!!!

31Mar2019

]]>e205cf83-ca47-47b7-9aff-4118961fa354Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:52:12 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice interview Bernice's husband, Mike. They hear about how he perceives his wife's work and how he supports her in it. Kali asks if Bernice is ever going to get that proposal after 27 years. Tune in to find out!!!</p><p></p><p>31Mar2019</p>no00:47:48155 The Husbands, Part 2: Mikefull<![CDATA[The Husbands. Part 1: Rob]]>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice interview Kali's husband, Rob. They ask both listener questions and also their own burning questions they have for him. You get to hear about Kali and Rob's marriage and listen to their dynamic, his thoughts on OULA, fun facts about their relationship and even his favorite OULA song!

25Mar2019

]]>cf8ccdd8-891a-4d6a-adb2-4641f21b75a4Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:51:12 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice interview Kali's husband, Rob. They ask both listener questions and also their own burning questions they have for him. You get to hear about Kali and Rob's marriage and listen to their dynamic, his thoughts on OULA, fun facts about their relationship and even his favorite OULA song!</p><p></p><p>25Mar2019</p>no00:51:55154The Husbands. Part 1: Robfull<![CDATA[Our Chosen Moments]]>No, we don't mean the "greatest hits" of our lives, we mean the pain, the suffering, the recurring patterns of frustration and discontent. What if we viewed these moments as opportunities for growth and insight on our paths towards contentment. Bernice and Kali contemplate this idea and share our personal stories with truth and humor and how they can serve our evolution if we can accept them rather than fight them.

18Mar2019

]]>804bf8c6-70f2-4d12-a322-604e59857e6dTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:50:33 GMT<p>No, we don't mean the "greatest hits" of our lives, we mean the pain, the suffering, the recurring patterns of frustration and discontent. What if we viewed these moments as opportunities for growth and insight on our paths towards contentment. Bernice and Kali contemplate this idea and share our personal stories with truth and humor and how they can serve our evolution if we can accept them rather than fight them.</p><p></p><p>18Mar2019</p>no00:53:04153Our Chosen Momentsfull<![CDATA[Who Are We?]]>After a profoundly moving weekend in Portland, Maine, Kali and Bernice talk about the struggle we all have in describing Oula. They talk about how this weekend they were witches with their coven and they participated in Demon Wrestling 101. They also honor the women who have come before them and have been burned at the stake for what was considered crazy, but was most likely just women stepping into their full power. What is OULA? Take a listen.

11Mar2019

]]>e842f360-f4ec-44ee-8ee0-263d864fe7d0Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:49:44 GMT<p>After a profoundly moving weekend in Portland, Maine, Kali and Bernice talk about the struggle we all have in describing Oula. They talk about how this weekend they were witches with their coven and they participated in Demon Wrestling 101. They also honor the women who have come before them and have been burned at the stake for what was considered crazy, but was most likely just women stepping into their full power. What is OULA? Take a listen.</p><p></p><p>11Mar2019</p>no00:42:48152Who Are We?full<![CDATA[Make it BLEEP Worthy]]>In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the F#ck It Bucket and Gratitude Jar and how this sparked them to think about the purpose that anger serves and how it affects us and those around us. They mention Thich Nhat Hahn, Lady Gaga, Ernest Hemingway and Mark Manson and use their teachings and writings to help understand the role anger plays in our lives.

04Mar2019

]]>5f74cff2-37a6-4e83-a0d0-196704be15bfTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:48:51 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the F#ck It Bucket and Gratitude Jar and how this sparked them to think about the purpose that anger serves and how it affects us and those around us. They mention Thich Nhat Hahn, Lady Gaga, Ernest Hemingway and Mark Manson and use their teachings and writings to help understand the role anger plays in our lives.</p><p></p><p>04Mar2019</p>yes00:43:24151Make it BLEEP Worthyfull<![CDATA[Intentions vs. Expectations]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali discuss the difference between intentions and expectations and recognize that our expectations are at the root of much of our unhappiness. They reference the work of life coach Muriel Berard and The Work by Byron Katie. They, as always, share personal stories and self-realizations that they hope are of benefit to listeners

25Feb2019

]]>761adea2-28c2-4edc-b9bb-4fd47f8a7e66Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:47:57 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali discuss the difference between intentions and expectations and recognize that our expectations are at the root of much of our unhappiness. They reference the work of life coach Muriel Berard and The Work by Byron Katie. They, as always, share personal stories and self-realizations that they hope are of benefit to listeners</p><p></p><p>25Feb2019</p>no00:47:48150Intentions vs. Expectationsfull<![CDATA[Share Your OULA Self]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali talk about how to bring the OULA self- the one that is trusting, loving, open and uses his/her voice- to the other parts of their life and relationships. They talk about their personal stories and struggles with balancing and coming to term with these two people that exist within themselves and talk about who and how they want to be in this world!

18Feb2019

]]>b6db6236-ff90-482a-a2c7-cde111b7138fTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:46:43 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali talk about how to bring the OULA self- the one that is trusting, loving, open and uses his/her voice- to the other parts of their life and relationships. They talk about their personal stories and struggles with balancing and coming to term with these two people that exist within themselves and talk about who and how they want to be in this world!</p><p></p><p>18Feb2019</p>no00:48:27149Share Your OULA Selffull<![CDATA[The OULA Playlist]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the many complexities that go into choosing the songs for class, how movement is selected for these songs and how to build a playlist. There are many layers of thought that help us understand a playlist, some of which are the four elements, the domino theory of emotion, the physicality of the movements and thinking of the playlist as a story line. They talk about the moving meditation that is Oula and how it can be related to the energetic experience of surfing. Take a listen to see behind the curtain of Oula and to help you understand why this class makes you feel the way it does.

11Feb2019

]]>8f2eca76-d75f-4faf-ae7e-895b3522926dTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:45:55 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the many complexities that go into choosing the songs for class, how movement is selected for these songs and how to build a playlist. There are many layers of thought that help us understand a playlist, some of which are the four elements, the domino theory of emotion, the physicality of the movements and thinking of the playlist as a story line. They talk about the moving meditation that is Oula and how it can be related to the energetic experience of surfing. Take a listen to see behind the curtain of Oula and to help you understand why this class makes you feel the way it does.</p><p></p><p>11Feb2019</p>no00:48:56148The OULA Playlistfull<![CDATA[It's Not About You]]>How many times do you think back on a conversation and replay all of the wrong things you said and internalize what you think are others' reactions? We ALL do this! In this podcast, Bernice and Kali discuss how this self-filter keeps us separate and anxious about our relationships with others. They challenge themselves and their listeners to own their awkwardness and realize that almost everyone has their own insecurities that they, too, are projecting onto the situation. When we can accept and celebrate our uniqueness, we can be present and connect on a deeper, soul level.

04Feb2019

]]>d1be5fc6-2bf9-4907-b983-dddc24154880Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:44:49 GMT<p>How many times do you think back on a conversation and replay all of the wrong things you said and internalize what you think are others' reactions? We ALL do this! In this podcast, Bernice and Kali discuss how this self-filter keeps us separate and anxious about our relationships with others. They challenge themselves and their listeners to own their awkwardness and realize that almost everyone has their own insecurities that they, too, are projecting onto the situation. When we can accept and celebrate our uniqueness, we can be present and connect on a deeper, soul level.</p><p></p><p>04Feb2019</p>no00:46:08147It's Not About Youfull<![CDATA[Why is asking for help so hard??]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali, revisit the last 2 podcasts with additional thoughts and reflections especially in light of recent current events. They also ask the question - why is it so hard to ask for and accept help - and explore the societal and generational adaptations that have glorified the American ideal of a self-made person.

28Jan2019

]]>3eca0951-238c-435e-ad3c-2564671242e9Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:44:02 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali, revisit the last 2 podcasts with additional thoughts and reflections especially in light of recent current events. They also ask the question - why is it so hard to ask for and accept help - and explore the societal and generational adaptations that have glorified the American ideal of a self-made person.</p><p></p><p>28Jan2019</p>no00:48:20146Why is asking for help so hard??full<![CDATA[When Your Light Dims]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about their own personal experiences with feeling their light dim, and how easy it is to readjust to feeling less than great. As humans we have a wonderful ability to adapt, which helps in certain cases, but in others allows us to keep living a life less than. They talk about how valuable and impactful the OULA Empowerment Weekend was to remind them of the importance of service and the beauty of lighting our own candles from someone else's flame.

21Jan2019

]]>06565a43-5c26-452f-9e5d-ba20459a3749Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:43:06 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about their own personal experiences with feeling their light dim, and how easy it is to readjust to feeling less than great. As humans we have a wonderful ability to adapt, which helps in certain cases, but in others allows us to keep living a life less than. They talk about how valuable and impactful the OULA Empowerment Weekend was to remind them of the importance of service and the beauty of lighting our own candles from someone else's flame.</p><p></p><p>21Jan2019</p>no00:39:23145When Your Light Dimsfull<![CDATA[Your Perspective Creates Your Perception]]>This week, Kali and Bernice discuss the relationship between perspective and perception. Our experiences influence our held beliefs and opinions, and oftentimes we confuse our own personal truths with a fixed reality, but in actuality, it is merely our perception. When we give value to the space between the stimulus and our response to it, we can find the freedom to change our perception of reality. This will then allow us to reprogram our patterns of thought and ask the ego to step aside to make way for understanding and empathy.

14Jan2019

]]>26de2877-8ead-4cf0-ab79-e1f82d68113dTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:42:13 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice discuss the relationship between perspective and perception. Our experiences influence our held beliefs and opinions, and oftentimes we confuse our own personal truths with a fixed reality, but in actuality, it is merely our perception. When we give value to the space between the stimulus and our response to it, we can find the freedom to change our perception of reality. This will then allow us to reprogram our patterns of thought and ask the ego to step aside to make way for understanding and empathy.</p><p></p><p>14Jan2019</p>no00:42:01144Your Perspective Creates Your Perceptionfull<![CDATA[Hello 2019]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali review their struggles and highlights of 2018 and discuss resolutions and intentions for 2019. They reflect on things they've learned, things they still struggle to master and what 2018 brought up in their personal and professional lives. They look forward to 2019 with hopes of balance, joy and meaning.

07Jan2019

]]>f1363f03-f0a4-4c06-aa2c-274f6a1cbadcTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:41:02 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali review their struggles and highlights of 2018 and discuss resolutions and intentions for 2019. They reflect on things they've learned, things they still struggle to master and what 2018 brought up in their personal and professional lives. They look forward to 2019 with hopes of balance, joy and meaning.</p><p></p><p>07Jan2019</p>no00:41:56143Hello 2019full<![CDATA[Happy Holidays?]]>The holidays can be the most wonderful time of the year, but they can also be challenging and leave us feeling blue. Kali and Bernice talk about where they are at emotionally this holiday season and work through why. They encourage themselves, and their listeners, to have grace when navigating the emotional triggers that this time of year can bring up.

24Dec2018

]]>0209e868-3ea6-4545-a1c9-d28ed7bc0084Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:39:59 GMT<p>The holidays can be the most wonderful time of the year, but they can also be challenging and leave us feeling blue. Kali and Bernice talk about where they are at emotionally this holiday season and work through why. They encourage themselves, and their listeners, to have grace when navigating the emotional triggers that this time of year can bring up.</p><p></p><p>24Dec2018</p>no00:44:35142Happy Holidays?full<![CDATA[Life with Frankie]]>In this special podcast, Kali and Bernice are joined by Frankie Joy! They talk about her birth story, life with 3 kids, and what the "new normal" looks like. As always, it's inappropriate, funny and real. Take a listen and help welcome Frankie into this world!

17Dec2018

]]>da46981e-4d0f-477d-b655-914c0de5cf31Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:39:06 GMT<p>In this special podcast, Kali and Bernice are joined by Frankie Joy! They talk about her birth story, life with 3 kids, and what the "new normal" looks like. As always, it's inappropriate, funny and real. Take a listen and help welcome Frankie into this world!</p><p></p><p>17Dec2018</p>no00:32:52141Life with Frankiefull<![CDATA[Workers Among Workers]]>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about the AA concept of being "workers among workers." They talk about how all experiences in life can be seen as opportunities to continue to do the work, to grow and to evolve. They also talk about the danger of putting others on pedestals, because ultimately we are all just workers among workers, and a pedestal is a high place to fall from. They also talk about negative emotions, and how rather than seeking the fastest way to make the feeling go away, to ask what this feeling means and where is it coming from.

10Dec2018

]]>8302a42e-fd20-402a-9cd3-7be0c4677567Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:38:04 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about the AA concept of being "workers among workers." They talk about how all experiences in life can be seen as opportunities to continue to do the work, to grow and to evolve. They also talk about the danger of putting others on pedestals, because ultimately we are all just workers among workers, and a pedestal is a high place to fall from. They also talk about negative emotions, and how rather than seeking the fastest way to make the feeling go away, to ask what this feeling means and where is it coming from.</p><p></p><p>10Dec2018</p>no00:42:48140Workers Among Workersfull<![CDATA[Mother-Daughter Interview]]>With just days to go before Kali delivers her 3rd daughter, she and Bernice have invited B's daughter, Josephine, to the podcast this week! Kali interviews them both about how Jo was raised to be a strong, confident woman and explores their mother-daughter relationship. Kali brings up her concerns and questions about raising daughters and also gets some pretty funny stories out of these two. Take a listen, have a laugh, and learn what to do (and not to do!) when raising children!

03Dec2018

]]>fc33394d-10bc-48f7-a16d-794837bb2b2dTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:37:08 GMT<p>With just days to go before Kali delivers her 3rd daughter, she and Bernice have invited B's daughter, Josephine, to the podcast this week! Kali interviews them both about how Jo was raised to be a strong, confident woman and explores their mother-daughter relationship. Kali brings up her concerns and questions about raising daughters and also gets some pretty funny stories out of these two. Take a listen, have a laugh, and learn what to do (and not to do!) when raising children!</p><p></p><p>03Dec2018</p>no01:03:22139Mother-Daughter Interviewfull<![CDATA[Drop Into Gratitude]]>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali have a heartfelt and tearful conversation on gratitude and ways to drop into it. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, they share personal stories of love and loss, heartache and hope and all of the in between that shape their lives and help lead them towards gratitude. Because really, isn't gratitude the way to compassion and love?

26Nov2018

]]>b94cddbc-d74d-4e38-aa00-f0b9fe43c57aTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:36:01 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali have a heartfelt and tearful conversation on gratitude and ways to drop into it. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, they share personal stories of love and loss, heartache and hope and all of the in between that shape their lives and help lead them towards gratitude. Because really, isn't gratitude the way to compassion and love?</p><p></p><p>26Nov2018</p>no00:34:20138Drop Into Gratitudefull<![CDATA[Let Love In]]>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice review their experiences after having done the Let Love In workshop 3 times in the last two months. Some of their revelations are vulnerable and difficult to share, but they are opening up about their personal reflections in hopes that it helps others in their journeys towards letting love in.

19Nov2018

]]>0356e3f4-0a9a-47d6-bc88-c484c52d6a9cTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:35:01 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice review their experiences after having done the Let Love In workshop 3 times in the last two months. Some of their revelations are vulnerable and difficult to share, but they are opening up about their personal reflections in hopes that it helps others in their journeys towards letting love in.</p><p></p><p>19Nov2018</p>no00:38:53137Let Love Infull<![CDATA[Bushwhack, baby!]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali ask the question 'how do we know when to choose the difficult, more challenging path and when to choose the path of least resistance?' The easiest option often tends to feel the best, because it is familiar, but with a little bushwhacking, we often see that the path less traveled opens up worlds within and around us that we didn't even know exist.

12Nov2018

]]>364754cc-c50b-4c47-ba0b-65b85652c25aTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:34:01 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali ask the question 'how do we know when to choose the difficult, more challenging path and when to choose the path of least resistance?' The easiest option often tends to feel the best, because it is familiar, but with a little bushwhacking, we often see that the path less traveled opens up worlds within and around us that we didn't even know exist.</p><p></p><p>12Nov2018</p>no00:49:11136Bushwhack, baby!full<![CDATA[Who are Your Guides]]>This week, Bernice and Kali explore their thoughts around the concept of who is guiding us in our lives, and are these guides helping us live our truths. These guides can be people, expectations, familial pressures, cultural beliefs and can be both inspiring and hindering. Towards the end they talk about what they believe is the root of injustice and intolerance and how doing the "work" can help us understand what our truths are. When these universal truths are recognized within ourselves, injustice and intolerance can not exist.

05Nov2018

]]>ef3f5694-b20b-4bb7-ae28-dd0f795bcb81Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:32:40 GMT<p>This week, Bernice and Kali explore their thoughts around the concept of who is guiding us in our lives, and are these guides helping us live our truths. These guides can be people, expectations, familial pressures, cultural beliefs and can be both inspiring and hindering. Towards the end they talk about what they believe is the root of injustice and intolerance and how doing the "work" can help us understand what our truths are. When these universal truths are recognized within ourselves, injustice and intolerance can not exist.</p><p></p><p>05Nov2018</p>no00:47:03135Who are Your Guidesfull<![CDATA[Leading Through Bravery and Fear]]>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about how fear and bravery usually always work together in life's greatest adventures. They both tell personal stories about their own interactions with fear and bravery, how we all should consider ourselves leaders and our acts of courage service to our communities.

27Oct2018

]]>dcf58248-72a5-4bab-bf92-c6810cb24e60Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:31:45 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about how fear and bravery usually always work together in life's greatest adventures. They both tell personal stories about their own interactions with fear and bravery, how we all should consider ourselves leaders and our acts of courage service to our communities.</p><p></p><p>27Oct2018</p>no00:44:22134Leading Through Bravery and Fearfull<![CDATA[Holding Space for Each Other]]>This week, Kali and Bernice reflect on the retreat they had the honor and privilege of hosting in Tulum, Mexico. They talk about the importance of holding space for one another, the benefits of group work, their own personal reflections and revelations from the week and why it is so important to do this type of self work. Tune in and let them take you with them on a journey of self discovery.

15Oct2018

]]>012f9d10-1f60-44f3-83f7-d46f96ae758eTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:30:27 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice reflect on the retreat they had the honor and privilege of hosting in Tulum, Mexico. They talk about the importance of holding space for one another, the benefits of group work, their own personal reflections and revelations from the week and why it is so important to do this type of self work. Tune in and let them take you with them on a journey of self discovery.</p><p></p><p>15Oct2018</p>no00:45:45133Holding Space for Each Otherfull<![CDATA[Love and Boundaries]]>This week, Kali and Bernice can barely make it through hysterical laughter, but when they finally recover they dive into the topic of love and boundaries. They talk about a love triad- giving, receiving and love of self and the importance of balance within this triad. They discuss their own personal issues with boundaries and trust and how they struggle with this balance in their own lives. Take a listen, laugh with them, and explore your relationship with love and boundaries.

08Oct2018

]]>5cc47124-d8c1-4fb2-829d-abdccbba0fd1Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:29:16 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice can barely make it through hysterical laughter, but when they finally recover they dive into the topic of love and boundaries. They talk about a love triad- giving, receiving and love of self and the importance of balance within this triad. They discuss their own personal issues with boundaries and trust and how they struggle with this balance in their own lives. Take a listen, laugh with them, and explore your relationship with love and boundaries.</p><p></p><p>08Oct2018</p>no00:49:02132Love and Boundariesfull<![CDATA[The Gift of Storytelling]]>In today's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance of the story. Cultural healing, societal healing and personal healing come from the courage of those who are willing to share their story. Thus healing themselves, as well as the recipients. As a culture, we have isolated ourselves and are craving connection and community. When we realize that we are not alone, that our stories are shared by many others, and we realize that we have the power to continually revisit and edit our stories, can we truly heal ourselves and our communities.

01Oct2018

]]>7d43eb96-3174-4bfb-987d-7727cb37a421Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:28:21 GMT<p>In today's episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance of the story. Cultural healing, societal healing and personal healing come from the courage of those who are willing to share their story. Thus healing themselves, as well as the recipients. As a culture, we have isolated ourselves and are craving connection and community. When we realize that we are not alone, that our stories are shared by many others, and we realize that we have the power to continually revisit and edit our stories, can we truly heal ourselves and our communities.</p><p></p><p>01Oct2018</p>no00:50:14131The Gift of Storytellingfull<![CDATA[OULA: When Your Hobby Becomes Your Partner's Horror]]>How many of you have experienced this? You become addicted to OULA and your friendships, partnerships or relationships can't handle it? How do you navigate the conflict that can occur when you have something that your partner doesn't understand or appreciate. I think for those of us who do OULA consistently, we have all experienced this to some degree. Bernice and Kali explore their personal stories around this topic, give their theories as to why OULA can be so triggering, and hopefully provide some guidance on how to minimize the disruption of relationships affected by OULA.

24Sep2018

]]>0f4d9e04-f258-48ec-a23e-f6e776bde2a6Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:27:32 GMT<p>How many of you have experienced this? You become addicted to OULA and your friendships, partnerships or relationships can't handle it? How do you navigate the conflict that can occur when you have something that your partner doesn't understand or appreciate. I think for those of us who do OULA consistently, we have all experienced this to some degree. Bernice and Kali explore their personal stories around this topic, give their theories as to why OULA can be so triggering, and hopefully provide some guidance on how to minimize the disruption of relationships affected by OULA.</p><p></p><p>24Sep2018</p>no00:54:03130OULA: When Your Hobby Becomes Your Partner's Horrorfull<![CDATA[Women's Sexuality- The Empowering and Disempowering Sides of Sexualization]]>In this podcast, Kali and Bernice discuss the many aspects of women's sexuality. From owning our own sexuality, to being disempowered by the sexualization of the female, they cover this complex topic and ways in which OULA helps us find balance with our own sexuality. Talking about power struggles, aging, fertility and the media, they tackle this topic candidly and go into their own personal journey with being sexual, female beings.

17Sep2018

]]>5953bd66-3a2a-425c-98ef-8e24e3e289ceTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:26:39 GMT<p>In this podcast, Kali and Bernice discuss the many aspects of women's sexuality. From owning our own sexuality, to being disempowered by the sexualization of the female, they cover this complex topic and ways in which OULA helps us find balance with our own sexuality. Talking about power struggles, aging, fertility and the media, they tackle this topic candidly and go into their own personal journey with being sexual, female beings.</p><p></p><p>17Sep2018</p>no00:57:21129Women's Sexuality- The Empowering and Disempowering Sides of Sexualizationfull<![CDATA[Social Media, Ego, and Human Connection]]>In this week's discussion, Bernice and Kali talk about social media and the effects it has on our sense of self-worth and well-being and the impact it has on real, live human connection. They discuss healthy ways to use social media by asking the questions "why am I posting this" and "who am I following and why?" and also ask us to question how it is either fueling our insecurities or driving us in our personal work. They recognize the power of social media and how it must be harnessed to be beneficial, especially in regards to our children's generation.

10Sep2018

]]>481d757d-0edb-4d20-afca-d13894b476f4Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:25:25 GMT<p>In this week's discussion, Bernice and Kali talk about social media and the effects it has on our sense of self-worth and well-being and the impact it has on real, live human connection. They discuss healthy ways to use social media by asking the questions "why am I posting this" and "who am I following and why?" and also ask us to question how it is either fueling our insecurities or driving us in our personal work. They recognize the power of social media and how it must be harnessed to be beneficial, especially in regards to our children's generation.</p><p></p><p>10Sep2018</p>no00:54:56128Social Media, Ego, and Human Connectionfull<![CDATA[Music]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice delve into the great influence music has had in their lives. Talking about the power of live music and the memory and energy associated with different types of music, they discuss how they take in and respond to music in the every day. This also translates to the work they do with OULA, choreographing and working with new music regularly.

04Sep2018

]]>0d5d8b55-6f62-44dc-9690-5634d6fa5cceTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:24:39 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice delve into the great influence music has had in their lives. Talking about the power of live music and the memory and energy associated with different types of music, they discuss how they take in and respond to music in the every day. This also translates to the work they do with OULA, choreographing and working with new music regularly.</p><p></p><p>04Sep2018</p>no00:45:20127Musicfull<![CDATA[Success and Failure]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about how they define success, focusing on the feeling of fulfillment and positive impact on others. They also discuss how they deal with the highs and lows of their professional and personal lives.

27Aug2018

]]>5e9c1efb-0737-4c4a-9fec-21c614f536a0Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:23:39 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about how they define success, focusing on the feeling of fulfillment and positive impact on others. They also discuss how they deal with the highs and lows of their professional and personal lives.</p><p></p><p>27Aug2018</p>no00:50:50126Success and Failurefull<![CDATA[Food]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the effect of their food choices in their lives, and in the larger system of food production. They discuss how they decide what nourishes them, and the changes in their choices over time. They also cover the question of ethicality and quality of the food we find in our stores today.

20Aug2026

]]>b51926b1-a43f-4de2-9688-c37995261752Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:22:52 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the effect of their food choices in their lives, and in the larger system of food production. They discuss how they decide what nourishes them, and the changes in their choices over time. They also cover the question of ethicality and quality of the food we find in our stores today.</p><p></p><p>20Aug2026</p>no00:52:35125Foodfull<![CDATA[Letting Go]]>This week, Kali and Bernice respond to a listener letter. They discuss letting go, a topic that is part of OULA's Quarter 3 Workshop, Into the Light. Recorded in Twin Cities during training!

13Aug2018

]]>b88c78a9-0306-41f7-921d-7a231ffaef09Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:21:50 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice respond to a listener letter. They discuss letting go, a topic that is part of OULA's Quarter 3 Workshop, Into the Light. Recorded in Twin Cities during training!</p><p></p><p>13Aug2018</p>no00:43:08124Letting Gofull<![CDATA[Kali Interviews Bernice]]>In this episode, we get to know more about Bernice! Kali asks her questions about her family, her time growing up in Hawaii, how she met her husband, and how she found OULA.

30Jul2018

]]>7eef81e0-b4a5-4ec3-9a54-2db069df61caTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:21:00 GMT<p>In this episode, we get to know more about Bernice! Kali asks her questions about her family, her time growing up in Hawaii, how she met her husband, and how she found OULA.</p><p></p><p>30Jul2018</p>no00:47:15123Kali Interviews Bernicefull<![CDATA[Bernice Inteviews Kali]]>In this epsiode, we get to know Kali! Bernice asks her some questions about growing up, her passions, love for collaborating, and how she feels most "enrichened." Next week, Bernice will be answering questions from Kali!

23Jul2018

]]>f86f562d-fe3e-4039-b07c-190187e46ddaTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:20:13 GMT<p>In this epsiode, we get to know Kali! Bernice asks her some questions about growing up, her passions, love for collaborating, and how she feels most "enrichened." Next week, Bernice will be answering questions from Kali!</p><p></p><p>23Jul2018</p>no00:45:56122Bernice Inteviews Kalifull<![CDATA[Rejection and Resiliency]]>​In this podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about rejection and resiliency. How and when can rejection strengthen our sense of self worth and resiliency, and when do we take it so personally that we view it as failure. Using personal experiences we explore our own rejection and the different impacts it has had on our lives and relationships.

16Jul2018

]]>fb71f360-cefa-435b-8ecb-76b4b8b08157Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:19:11 GMT<p>​In this podcast, Bernice and Kali talk about rejection and resiliency. How and when can rejection strengthen our sense of self worth and resiliency, and when do we take it so personally that we view it as failure. Using personal experiences we explore our own rejection and the different impacts it has had on our lives and relationships.</p><p></p><p>16Jul2018</p>no00:52:00121Rejection and Resiliencyfull<![CDATA[Honesty: When Is It Helpful and When Is It Hurtful?]]> Kali and Bernice reference an email from a podcast listener about a relationship that has become strained because of her honesty. So we begin to question when honesty can help strengthen a relationship and when it can be manipulated as a weapon to hurt. We also talk about how honesty can help both individuals bring a mirror to their own faces and see what can be learned not only in the message, but in the need to share the message. Listen to Billy Joel's 1978 performance of "Honesty" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFScoO4tb0

09Jul2018

]]>dd48ea44-933e-4e23-8134-979adc44a2ebTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:18:12 GMT<p> Kali and Bernice reference an email from a podcast listener about a relationship that has become strained because of her honesty. So we begin to question when honesty can help strengthen a relationship and when it can be manipulated as a weapon to hurt. We also talk about how honesty can help both individuals bring a mirror to their own faces and see what can be learned not only in the message, but in the need to share the message. Listen to Billy Joel's 1978 performance of "Honesty" here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFScoO4tb0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuFScoO4tb0</a></p><p></p><p>09Jul2018</p>no00:38:23120Honesty: When Is It Helpful and When Is It Hurtful?full<![CDATA[Becoming Aware of Our Own Privilege]]>In this emotionally-charged episode, Kali talks to Bernice about some harrowing realizations she's had lately that part of her belief system is based on privilege. They heatedly discuss how privilege comes with an immense responsibility and wonder "Why is it so hard for some to share? What are they so afraid of?" Listen at your own discretion- this one gets political!

01Jul2018

]]>bf521520-180b-4271-8155-e7fb8533089bTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:17:16 GMT<p>In this emotionally-charged episode, Kali talks to Bernice about some harrowing realizations she's had lately that part of her belief system is based on privilege. They heatedly discuss how privilege comes with an immense responsibility and wonder "Why is it so hard for some to share? What are they so afraid of?" Listen at your own discretion- this one gets political!</p><p></p><p>01Jul2018</p>no00:46:28119Becoming Aware of Our Own Privilegefull<![CDATA[Women Rising]]>In this special episode, Kali and Bernice welcome their first guest to the show, Erin Erickson, Founder of Missoula Rises: Organization & Action founded in Love. They talk about the power of circles of women, their own journeys towards self-love and self-empowerment and how the OULA community has helped Erin step into her role as a powerful and compassionate leader.

23Jun2018

]]>c48f3a9e-3fdb-42f6-b8b5-6422bc986f8fTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:16:23 GMT<p>In this special episode, Kali and Bernice welcome their first guest to the show, Erin Erickson, Founder of Missoula Rises: Organization &amp; Action founded in Love. They talk about the power of circles of women, their own journeys towards self-love and self-empowerment and how the OULA community has helped Erin step into her role as a powerful and compassionate leader.</p><p></p><p>23Jun2018</p>no00:55:36118Women Risingfull<![CDATA[In Darkness and Illness: Navigating our Mental Health Waters]]>In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice explore curiously the topic of mental health. They give personal accounts of different points in their life that anxiety and depression took over and express gratitude for those who are working to break the stigma of mental illness. They also talk about medication, relationship with health care providers and personal advocacy and self-care.

18Jun2018

]]>efb51b25-e6cc-4979-8b7c-23fb5ba0f8adTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:15:07 GMT<p>In this week's episode, Kali and Bernice explore curiously the topic of mental health. They give personal accounts of different points in their life that anxiety and depression took over and express gratitude for those who are working to break the stigma of mental illness. They also talk about medication, relationship with health care providers and personal advocacy and self-care.</p><p></p><p>18Jun2018</p>no00:49:21117In Darkness and Illness: Navigating our Mental Health Watersfull<![CDATA[Balance]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the different ways we can find balance in our busy lives- from our families, work lives, friendships, and relationships. They discuss how we can understand where our energy goes and find some strategies to deal with imbalances we might be facing.

11Jun2018

]]>f04ea027-bfea-4ed0-a637-4bbc50cecc34Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:14:23 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the different ways we can find balance in our busy lives- from our families, work lives, friendships, and relationships. They discuss how we can understand where our energy goes and find some strategies to deal with imbalances we might be facing.</p><p></p><p>11Jun2018</p><p></p>no00:40:59116Balancefull<![CDATA[News Got Ya Down?]]>This week's podcast is an emotional one for both Bernice and Kali. They talk about the intense amount of sad and depressing news that we are bombarded with daily and how each of them deal with it. For some of us, news can be a tool for awareness and action, for others it can overwhelm and crush the soul. We all must explore our own ability to stay in the light as we read and absorb the sorrows of the world. ​

04Jun2018

]]>178146d9-dd63-411b-bcf3-d4f1e0b7dd65Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:13:20 GMT<p>This week's podcast is an emotional one for both Bernice and Kali. They talk about the intense amount of sad and depressing news that we are bombarded with daily and how each of them deal with it. For some of us, news can be a tool for awareness and action, for others it can overwhelm and crush the soul. We all must explore our own ability to stay in the light as we read and absorb the sorrows of the world. ​</p><p></p><p>04Jun2018</p>no00:49:15115News Got Ya Down?full<![CDATA[Being in Our Bodies]]>This week, Bernice and Kali talk about the challenge of being in our bodies. Have you noticed how children don't even seem to be aware of their bodies, but move freely without judgment or shame? When does that change? Is there a way to resist the demands of society and the media showing us constantly that we are more valuable when we meet the standard of attractiveness? We talk about our personal struggles with negative self-talk and explore the ways we can reframe this dialogue.

26May2018

]]>4245ff9f-5b70-4ba3-96c7-86fc072885d0Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:11:51 GMT<p>This week, Bernice and Kali talk about the challenge of being in our bodies. Have you noticed how children don't even seem to be aware of their bodies, but move freely without judgment or shame? When does that change? Is there a way to resist the demands of society and the media showing us constantly that we are more valuable when we meet the standard of attractiveness? We talk about our personal struggles with negative self-talk and explore the ways we can reframe this dialogue.</p><p></p><p>26May2018</p>no00:44:20114Being in Our Bodiesfull<![CDATA[Unpacking Our Backpacks]]>This week, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance of acknowledging and honoring the darkness that we all carry within us (or in our "backpacks.") . As humans we all have aspects of masculinity and femininity, light and dark, yin and yang, and these contrasts are what make us whole. We look into how our culture is uncomfortable with holding space for the negative, but how Oula can provide a safe space to explore the complexities of the human experience, including bringing the shadows to light.​

19May2026

]]>6370ed9a-146b-480d-8703-47f5c6aac7b8Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:10:43 GMT<p>This week, Kali and Bernice talk about the importance of acknowledging and honoring the darkness that we all carry within us (or in our "backpacks.") . As humans we all have aspects of masculinity and femininity, light and dark, yin and yang, and these contrasts are what make us whole. We look into how our culture is uncomfortable with holding space for the negative, but how Oula can provide a safe space to explore the complexities of the human experience, including bringing the shadows to light.​</p><p></p><p>19May2026</p>no00:37:36113Unpacking Our Backpacksfull<![CDATA[Why Oula Moves Us]]>"For something to change, it must first move." - Lara Heiman In today's podcast, Kali and Bernice talk about this incredibly true statement and how it not only works for OULA but how it can help us in the rest of our lives, too. When we invite movement, we can create curiosity, awareness and space for change. We also talk about why OULA itself is so hard to explain, but ultimately conclude that the mind and the body are never truly separate, and some of us come for the body stuff, some of us come for the mind stuff, and some of us come for the fun, but OULA will always meet you where you're at.

14May2018

]]>7dd3fdf3-a6a2-4415-b56c-a73308311a63Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:09:39 GMT<p>"For something to change, it must first move." - Lara Heiman In today's podcast, Kali and Bernice talk about this incredibly true statement and how it not only works for OULA but how it can help us in the rest of our lives, too. When we invite movement, we can create curiosity, awareness and space for change. We also talk about why OULA itself is so hard to explain, but ultimately conclude that the mind and the body are never truly separate, and some of us come for the body stuff, some of us come for the mind stuff, and some of us come for the fun, but OULA will always meet you where you're at.</p><p></p><p>14May2018</p>no00:43:11112Why Oula Moves Usfull<![CDATA[Control]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali talk about control...they themselves look at ways that they try to control aspects of their lives and question the motive of this need, if it's healthy and why they want it. Kali also has a big announcement- so take a listen and share your comments on Facebook or Instagram!

07May2018

]]>10b27ac7-221a-4c5c-b039-77fbf86623f0Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:08:47 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali talk about control...they themselves look at ways that they try to control aspects of their lives and question the motive of this need, if it's healthy and why they want it. Kali also has a big announcement- so take a listen and share your comments on Facebook or Instagram!</p><p></p><p>07May2018</p>no00:52:21111Controlfull<![CDATA[Self-Love]]>Why is self-love so hard? In this week's episode we explore how our experiences from birth and childhood help shape the way we feel about ourselves, the importance of mantras (especially the ones that make you queasy to say out loud), the value of doing the "work" in community and narcissism. We've got some sing-a-long time, an intervention, lots of laughs and even more questions, as always.

30Apr2018

]]>3d9e4070-b5c6-4bee-8360-671151397904Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:07:44 GMT<p>Why is self-love so hard? In this week's episode we explore how our experiences from birth and childhood help shape the way we feel about ourselves, the importance of mantras (especially the ones that make you queasy to say out loud), the value of doing the "work" in community and narcissism. We've got some sing-a-long time, an intervention, lots of laughs and even more questions, as always.</p><p></p><p>30Apr2018</p>no00:42:29110Self-Lovefull<![CDATA[Intimacy]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice dive into the importance of intimacy in building lasting, meaningful, and powerful relationships- whether that is a partnership, friendship, or any other important connection. They also discuss what intimacy means and the work it takes to foster in our lives.

23Apr2018

]]>b446b93a-d9b5-4951-a82a-2362b74888d1Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:06:46 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice dive into the importance of intimacy in building lasting, meaningful, and powerful relationships- whether that is a partnership, friendship, or any other important connection. They also discuss what intimacy means and the work it takes to foster in our lives.</p><p></p><p>23Apr2018</p>no00:45:4119Intimacyfull<![CDATA[Searching for our Porpoise, or Purpose]]>Does the question "what is your purpose?" stress you out or make you want to punch someone? If so then this podcast is for you! Kali and Bernice talk about the pressure one can feel to "find your purpose" and how its detrimental to tie the idea into our career. Do all types of purpose require a service to others or is it possible to have a self-serving higher purpose? Take a listen and join the conversation.

16Apr2026

]]>e7e883cc-1b2d-4e18-a21c-4afac4256016Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:05:20 GMT<p>Does the question "what is your purpose?" stress you out or make you want to punch someone? If so then this podcast is for you! Kali and Bernice talk about the pressure one can feel to "find your purpose" and how its detrimental to tie the idea into our career. Do all types of purpose require a service to others or is it possible to have a self-serving higher purpose? Take a listen and join the conversation.</p><p></p><p>16Apr2026</p>no00:42:2718Searching for our Porpoise, or Purposefull<![CDATA[#friendship]]>Kali and Bernice explore their own friendship and how their own boundaries and trust issues affect how they develop and maintain relationships.  They also talk about relationships with males and females, their insecurities in new relationships and what makes a good, longterm and meaningful friendship.

31Mar2018

]]>f9453c1c-cfc7-4c9d-9612-0a76fecd87a7Tue, 28 Jul 2026 06:03:42 GMT<p>Kali and Bernice explore their own friendship and how their own boundaries and trust issues affect how they develop and maintain relationships.  They also talk about relationships with males and females, their insecurities in new relationships and what makes a good, longterm and meaningful friendship.</p><p></p><p>31Mar2018</p>no00:41:3317#friendshipfull<![CDATA[Body Shame and The Poodle]]>In this podcast, Bernice and Kali start with the quite heavy and all-too consuming topic of body shame. But by the end they are laughing about how actually ridiculous it would be to judge a chihuahua for not looking like a poodle, and hoping someday we can see this same ridiculousness with humans. "A culture fixated on female thinness is not an obsession about female beauty, but an obsession about female obedience." - Naomi Wolf Your Body is Not An Apology on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Body-Not-Apology-Radical-Self-Love/dp/1626569762

23Mar2026

]]>d9da82ba-5e05-4c70-afe4-904fc9e45d1bTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:02:09 GMT<p>In this podcast, Bernice and Kali start with the quite heavy and all-too consuming topic of body shame. But by the end they are laughing about how actually ridiculous it would be to judge a chihuahua for not looking like a poodle, and hoping someday we can see this same ridiculousness with humans. "A culture fixated on female thinness is not an obsession about female beauty, but an obsession about female obedience." - Naomi Wolf Your Body is Not An Apology on Amazon: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Body-Not-Apology-Radical-Self-Love/dp/1626569762" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Body-Not-Apology-Radical-Self-Love/dp/1626569762</a></p><p></p><p>23Mar2026</p>no00:26:3716Body Shame and The Poodlefull<![CDATA[Mom Guilt Sucks!]]>In this podcast episode, we talk about that old friend to so many of us... mom guilt. We also talk about bringing a sense of curiosity to our negative and uncomfortable emotions and the formula we have found to live our best lives--- self- realization through curiosity, followed by radical self-love (not easy!!!) which combine to help us set healthy, purposeful goals and positive direction for our lives.

16Mar2018

]]>23041768-97b2-4587-82fe-fd59202dd4adTue, 28 Jul 2026 06:00:52 GMT<p>In this podcast episode, we talk about that old friend to so many of us... mom guilt. We also talk about bringing a sense of curiosity to our negative and uncomfortable emotions and the formula we have found to live our best lives--- self- realization through curiosity, followed by radical self-love (not easy!!!) which combine to help us set healthy, purposeful goals and positive direction for our lives.</p><p></p><p>16Mar2018</p>no00:36:2415Mom Guilt Sucks!full<![CDATA[Where are the Boys?]]>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice discuss how we are raising our boys in this society and if they feel supported in their softness and vulnerability or if we are creating pressure for them to be aggressive, hard and strong. This episode was prompted by the lack of males in self-care + mind-body classes, and in response to the Florida shooting. Through this discussion, they are processing violence, gender roles and the various influences acting on our children.

10Mar2026

]]>9f165708-1ffa-44a9-8932-a23c7dbfd366Tue, 28 Jul 2026 05:59:56 GMT<p>In this week's podcast, Kali and Bernice discuss how we are raising our boys in this society and if they feel supported in their softness and vulnerability or if we are creating pressure for them to be aggressive, hard and strong. This episode was prompted by the lack of males in self-care + mind-body classes, and in response to the Florida shooting. Through this discussion, they are processing violence, gender roles and the various influences acting on our children.</p><p></p><p>10Mar2026</p>no00:36:5214Where are the Boys?full<![CDATA[What's Your Prescription?]]>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the lenses through which we perceive our realities- the filters that dictate our perspectives, our motivations, and our pasts. By identifying what our "glasses" are, we are allowed to have compassion first for ourselves and then for others. This knowledge can help us understand how we work to move past life's challenges.

26Feb2018

]]>732ac315-0e8b-4990-8148-59b76c631c6bTue, 28 Jul 2026 05:58:29 GMT<p>In this episode, Kali and Bernice talk about the lenses through which we perceive our realities- the filters that dictate our perspectives, our motivations, and our pasts. By identifying what our "glasses" are, we are allowed to have compassion first for ourselves and then for others. This knowledge can help us understand how we work to move past life's challenges.</p><p></p><p>26Feb2018</p>no00:24:4713What's Your Prescription?full<![CDATA[Creating Space for Healing]]>In this episode, Bernice and Kali discuss how trauma and emotion can get "stuck" in the body. Through the context of the Larry Nassar trial, they explore how giving a voice to our low-vibrating emotions like shame and fear can help release us from their power.

07Feb2018

]]>cea68e7a-a411-4d20-b4cc-29960cca5eb3Tue, 28 Jul 2026 05:57:01 GMT<p>In this episode, Bernice and Kali discuss how trauma and emotion can get "stuck" in the body. Through the context of the Larry Nassar trial, they explore how giving a voice to our low-vibrating emotions like shame and fear can help release us from their power.</p><p></p><p>07Feb2018</p>no00:34:3912Creating Space for Healingfull<![CDATA[First Episode]]>The OULA Story: In this episode, we talk about OULA Fitness founder, Kali Lindner's childhood and life events that led her to create OULA. Kali and Bernice talk about how OULA has evolved, the challenges and resistance that we face when pushing people out of their comfort zones and you all get to hear Bernice psycho-analyze Kali in their funny and dynamic relationship.

18Dec2017

]]>c5b7f391-5cd5-4703-b546-bc785a326471Tue, 28 Jul 2026 05:35:55 GMT<p>The OULA Story: In this episode, we talk about OULA Fitness founder, Kali Lindner's childhood and life events that led her to create OULA. Kali and Bernice talk about how OULA has evolved, the challenges and resistance that we face when pushing people out of their comfort zones and you all get to hear Bernice psycho-analyze Kali in their funny and dynamic relationship.</p><p></p><p>18Dec2017</p>no00:49:5911First Episodefull