<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Survival Strategies For Anyone Who Loves a Gambling Addict]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>When one person falls into the grip of gambling addiction, the ripple effect is staggering, touching the lives of at least eight others. Spouses, partners, children, parents, siblings, friends, employers, and co-workers all feel the devastation. They endure the madness of the lies, manipulation, and gaslighting. They watch helplessly as ego, self-centeredness, immaturity, and financial ruin take center stage. And the emotional toll? It’s brutal. Depression, self-doubt, guilt, shame, embarrassment, and a crushing sense of obligation often lead to isolation and a cycle of enabling which only deepens the pain.<br /></p><p>The suicide rate among addicted gamblers is alarmingly high and tragically their spouses face similar risks. The chaos is real. The desperation and grief are palpable. The obsession consumes. But there is a way forward.</p><p></p><p>This podcast hopes to be a lifeline for anyone suffering in the shadows of someone else’s gambling addiction. It’s a sanctuary where you can begin to build a protective bubble around you and your family; a space where joy, peace, contentment, and financial security are not just possible, but sustainable… not because your gambler changes, but because you do.</p>]]></description><link>https://www.jodiholstein.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 16:32:54 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/XvzitUZD.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></author><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 17:14:06 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Jodi Holstein]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Mental Health]]></category><category><![CDATA[Relationships]]></category><itunes:author>Jodi Holstein</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;When one person falls into the grip of gambling addiction, the ripple effect is staggering, touching the lives of at least eight others. Spouses, partners, children, parents, siblings, friends, employers, and co-workers all feel the devastation. They endure the madness of the lies, manipulation, and gaslighting. They watch helplessly as ego, self-centeredness, immaturity, and financial ruin take center stage. And the emotional toll? It’s brutal. Depression, self-doubt, guilt, shame, embarrassment, and a crushing sense of obligation often lead to isolation and a cycle of enabling which only deepens the pain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The suicide rate among addicted gamblers is alarmingly high and tragically their spouses face similar risks. The chaos is real. The desperation and grief are palpable. The obsession consumes. But there is a way forward.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This podcast hopes to be a lifeline for anyone suffering in the shadows of someone else’s gambling addiction. It’s a sanctuary where you can begin to build a protective bubble around you and your family; a space where joy, peace, contentment, and financial security are not just possible, but sustainable… not because your gambler changes, but because you do.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Jodi Holstein</itunes:name><itunes:email>jodi@boundarywiseconsulting.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Health &amp; Fitness"><itunes:category text="Mental Health"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"><itunes:category text="Relationships"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[E010-Why Relapse Feels Like a Sucker Punch]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This episode explores the complex dynamics of gambling relapse and how loved ones can better understand and respond to it. We discuss the emotional and financial impacts, common misconceptions, and practical strategies to protect yourself.</p><p>keywords</p><p>gambling relapse, addiction, recovery, family impact, behavioral change, GA, relapse prevention</p><p>key topics</p><ul><li>Differences in gambler and loved ones' experiences with relapse</li><li>The progression of gambling addiction and relapse</li><li>Common misconceptions about abstinence and recovery</li><li>The importance of behavioral change over mere abstinence</li><li>Strategies for family members to anticipate and mitigate relapse impacts</li></ul><p>Sound Bites</p><ul><li>"Falling off a cliff while the gambler flips"</li><li>"Relapse is often a shock because of unrecognized behaviors"</li><li>"Remorse is part of the addiction cycle, not recovery"</li></ul><p>Chapters</p><p>00:00Introduction to the emotional impact of gambling relapse</p><p>02:15The family’s experience during a relapse</p><p>04:54Understanding the gambler's perspective on relapse</p><p>07:23The chasm between gambler and family after relapse</p><p>09:19Financial and emotional costs of relapse</p><p>12:57Why loved ones are blindsided by relapse</p><p>15:10The myth of trust and promises in recovery</p><p>17:23The difference between abstinence and recovery</p><p>19:01The role of remorse in the addiction cycle</p><p>22:53The power of incremental behavioral changes</p><p>27:22GA’s guidelines for sustained recovery</p><p>33:33Behavioral indicators of imminent relapse</p><p>38:33Why meetings alone don’t guarantee recovery</p><p>40:54Building resilience and protecting yourself from relapse</p><p>AI show notes are experimental. Did you find them useful?</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5f3e721d-03a7-434d-9ede-258b45351572</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 23:23:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7b8674bf6517cb326ce8dbce1f2d4a11cca695d5a92076f504a8929e57e93ccf/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1ZjNlNzIxZC0wM2E3LTQzNGQtOWVkZS0yNThiNDUzNTE1NzIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFjNDJiNTQyMGIyZDlkZTM1YTliNGQ1L2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby0yMDI2LTEwLTVfXzIyLTU3LTI0Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="72602898" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/5f3e721d-03a7-434d-9ede-258b45351572/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This episode explores the complex dynamics of gambling relapse and how loved ones can better understand and respond to it. We discuss the emotional and financial impacts, common misconceptions, and practical strategies to protect yourself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;keywords&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;gambling relapse, addiction, recovery, family impact, behavioral change, GA, relapse prevention&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;key topics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Differences in gambler and loved ones&apos; experiences with relapse&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The progression of gambling addiction and relapse&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Common misconceptions about abstinence and recovery&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The importance of behavioral change over mere abstinence&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Strategies for family members to anticipate and mitigate relapse impacts&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sound Bites&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;Falling off a cliff while the gambler flips&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;Relapse is often a shock because of unrecognized behaviors&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;Remorse is part of the addiction cycle, not recovery&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00Introduction to the emotional impact of gambling relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;02:15The family’s experience during a relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;04:54Understanding the gambler&apos;s perspective on relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;07:23The chasm between gambler and family after relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;09:19Financial and emotional costs of relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;12:57Why loved ones are blindsided by relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;15:10The myth of trust and promises in recovery&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;17:23The difference between abstinence and recovery&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;19:01The role of remorse in the addiction cycle&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;22:53The power of incremental behavioral changes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;27:22GA’s guidelines for sustained recovery&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;33:33Behavioral indicators of imminent relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;38:33Why meetings alone don’t guarantee recovery&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;40:54Building resilience and protecting yourself from relapse&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;AI show notes are experimental. Did you find them useful?&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:37:49</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:title>E010-Why Relapse Feels Like a Sucker Punch</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[E009-Anne: A Spouse's Lived Experience]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Anne shares her profound journey through discovering her husband's gambling addiction, the challenges of rebuilding trust, and the power of community and recovery programs like GA and Gamanon. Her story offers hope and practical insights for families affected by gambling addiction.</p><p>keywords<br />Gambling addiction, Trust rebuilding, GA, Gamanon, Family recovery, Financial recovery, Addiction support, Hope, Marriage, Mental health</p><p>key topics</p><ul><li>Signs of gambling addiction in a relationship</li><li>Financial and emotional betrayal</li><li>The role of GA and Gamanon in recovery</li><li>Building trust after betrayal</li><li>The importance of community and accountability</li><li>Steps to financial recovery from gambling debt</li><li>The process of surrender and change in addiction</li><li>Balancing independence and trust in recovery</li></ul><p><br /></p><p>titles</p><ul><li>From Betrayal to Trust: A Family's Journey Through Gambling Addiction</li><li>Rebuilding Life After Gambling: Hope and Healing</li></ul><p>Sound Bites</p><ul><li>"Weight was lifted off my shoulders"</li><li>"Trust is a long, slow process"</li><li>"Gratitude for the journey and the healing"</li></ul><p><br /></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8189d91a-55e4-4628-87c1-74f5cbe9f533</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 23:18:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/2bfec889a571307803b711495186486a8ef00532c1ff4c6a31bc6b77fd1a865a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4MTg5ZDkxYS01NWU0LTQ2MjgtODdjMS03NGY1Y2JlOWY1MzMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE3MTIwZDU4MzkyYWVmZjkyNjZjMzE1L2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTgtNF9fMS0xNC0yOS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="102101622" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/8189d91a-55e4-4628-87c1-74f5cbe9f533/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Anne shares her profound journey through discovering her husband&apos;s gambling addiction, the challenges of rebuilding trust, and the power of community and recovery programs like GA and Gamanon. Her story offers hope and practical insights for families affected by gambling addiction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;keywords&lt;br /&gt;Gambling addiction, Trust rebuilding, GA, Gamanon, Family recovery, Financial recovery, Addiction support, Hope, Marriage, Mental health&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;key topics&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Signs of gambling addiction in a relationship&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Financial and emotional betrayal&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The role of GA and Gamanon in recovery&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Building trust after betrayal&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The importance of community and accountability&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Steps to financial recovery from gambling debt&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The process of surrender and change in addiction&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Balancing independence and trust in recovery&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;titles&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;From Betrayal to Trust: A Family&apos;s Journey Through Gambling Addiction&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Rebuilding Life After Gambling: Hope and Healing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sound Bites&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;Weight was lifted off my shoulders&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;Trust is a long, slow process&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&quot;Gratitude for the journey and the healing&quot;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:53:11</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:title>E009-Anne: A Spouse&apos;s Lived Experience</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[E008-Crossover Episode with Melissa]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In today’s world, gambling addiction can significantly impact not only the individual but also their loved ones. This episode explores the experiences of Jodi Holstein and Melissa, hosts of "Making Bets in a Burning House, sharing their journeys and insights. Family members of gamblers are not in this alone. We are a community of resources and experience.</p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3968e0e7-195e-41a5-93ba-7d50cdbf5d0c</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2026 22:50:18 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/627d0e2c885db50f48b8f8d902d38935f882a47a51fe175f8ea75cd9e611a10a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzOTY4ZTBlNy0xOTVlLTQxYTUtOTNiYS03ZDUwY2RiZjVkMGMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE1MDIyMDFiZGMyMGY3N2ViYzg1NTUwL2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTctMTBfXzAtMzQtNDEubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="147545488" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/3968e0e7-195e-41a5-93ba-7d50cdbf5d0c/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In today’s world, gambling addiction can significantly impact not only the individual but also their loved ones. This episode explores the experiences of Jodi Holstein and Melissa, hosts of &quot;Making Bets in a Burning House, sharing their journeys and insights. Family members of gamblers are not in this alone. We are a community of resources and experience.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:16:51</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:title>E008-Crossover Episode with Melissa</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[E007-Treatment Options for Gamblers and Families]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Jodi explores today's treatment options for gambling addiction recovery from the family perspective, including support groups, therapy options, harm reduction, inpatient and outpatient, suicide prevention, and sober living. She emphasizes the importance of qualified treatment and practical strategies for families guiding their loved one's into recovery.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">48ab8bc5-d82d-479e-8698-b79ed06e8aba</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 16:07:46 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/dc418c025cb3f80d5cd4df8b541a6580ba11aaa535fcbf4c88e6a51722bee2e9/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0OGFiOGJjNS1kODJkLTQ3OWUtODY5OC1iNzllZDA2ZThhYmEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmEyODM4NTExYTliNmNjOTgzMWZlOTI0L2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTYtOV9fMTctNTktMTMubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="136615855" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/48ab8bc5-d82d-479e-8698-b79ed06e8aba/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Jodi explores today&apos;s treatment options for gambling addiction recovery from the family perspective, including support groups, therapy options, harm reduction, inpatient and outpatient, suicide prevention, and sober living. She emphasizes the importance of qualified treatment and practical strategies for families guiding their loved one&apos;s into recovery.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:11:09</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:title>E007-Treatment Options for Gamblers and Families</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Gambling Terms: Potato or Potahtoe]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>This episode explores the terminology surrounding gambling addiction, its impact on families, and the misconceptions about professional gambling. Host Jodi Holstein breaks down key terms, shares lived experiences, and offers practical insights for families to help alleviate the confusion.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">516dc022-b2b1-44ee-940f-38d7b5a065e0</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 22:03:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e586cdd3c9e9d77f54e6f49820748b24e84ed6899f1a8568472492d6772030a8/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1MTZkYzAyMi1iMmIxLTQ0ZWUtOTQwZi0zOGQ3YjVhMDY1ZTAiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllZDM4YTJhN2ZhYWIxMTM0ZmRmOWEyL2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTQtMjVfXzIzLTU2LTUwLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="82083049" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/516dc022-b2b1-44ee-940f-38d7b5a065e0/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;This episode explores the terminology surrounding gambling addiction, its impact on families, and the misconceptions about professional gambling. Host Jodi Holstein breaks down key terms, shares lived experiences, and offers practical insights for families to help alleviate the confusion.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:42:45</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Gambling Terms: Potato or Potahtoe</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Finding A Qualified Therapist]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>n this episode, Jodi Holstein interviews Jody Bechtold, a leading expert in gambling addiction and the president of the International Problem Gambling and Gaming Certification Organization. They discuss the critical need for specialized training in treating gambling disorders, emphasizing the importance of certification for therapists. Jody shares her personal journey into the field, highlighting the evolution of gambling treatment and the challenges faced by both therapists and families dealing with gambling addiction. The conversation also touches on the complexities of financial management in therapy and the role of family support.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">078383e8-de44-447b-a04d-2914e3682568</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 21:06:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7937ea21143956993b33063a8e686d74a9c7f8706408819342ad76f2b0d51cf7/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwNzgzODNlOC1kZTQ0LTQ0N2ItYTA0ZC0yOTE0ZTM2ODI1NjgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlkZDU5MDZmMzJkNzdmNjljZWY3OGFiL2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTQtMTNfXzIyLTU4LTQ2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="62875107" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/078383e8-de44-447b-a04d-2914e3682568/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;n this episode, Jodi Holstein interviews Jody Bechtold, a leading expert in gambling addiction and the president of the International Problem Gambling and Gaming Certification Organization. They discuss the critical need for specialized training in treating gambling disorders, emphasizing the importance of certification for therapists. Jody shares her personal journey into the field, highlighting the evolution of gambling treatment and the challenges faced by both therapists and families dealing with gambling addiction. The conversation also touches on the complexities of financial management in therapy and the role of family support.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:43:40</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Finding A Qualified Therapist</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[The Truth About Bailouts]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, a critical gap in Jodi's story is filled. Jodi walks us through what happened between 1984, when John found life-saving recovery, and 1988 when her story began. She defines the term "bailout" and listeners will hear about the emotional and financial bailouts which led to the decades long drift prior to John choosing the intention direction of recovery.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">a67e0ec2-061c-4ca1-8e13-8b3cf43ee821</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 22:15:13 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/ba6199f63e9a6831d13d741e5fd48275766919f805375a1974ab18d8ad0064e6/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhNjdlMGVjMi0wNjFjLTRjYTEtOGUxMy04YjNjZjQzZWU4MjEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljYWYyYjZhMTJjMGVjM2JkZWEyOTA2L2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMzFfXzAtMS0yNi5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="40052028" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/a67e0ec2-061c-4ca1-8e13-8b3cf43ee821/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, a critical gap in Jodi&apos;s story is filled. Jodi walks us through what happened between 1984, when John found life-saving recovery, and 1988 when her story began. She defines the term &quot;bailout&quot; and listeners will hear about the emotional and financial bailouts which led to the decades long drift prior to John choosing the intention direction of recovery.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:27:49</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Truth About Bailouts</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[John's Story - The First Hours of Recovery]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>You might be wondering, <i>“If this podcast focuses on the family, why are we hearing from the gambler?”</i> The reason is simple: over the past several years, a troubling pattern has emerged. Many gamblers insist they don’t belong in recovery or support groups, claiming, <i>“No one here is my age—these people can’t possibly understand me.”</i></p><p>What’s even more surprising is how often mental health professionals accept these explanations without question. Yet these age‑based excuses have been circulating for decades, and it’s essential for anyone who loves someone with a gambling addiction to recognize them for what they are.<br /></p><p>Take John, for example. By today’s meeting standards, he might be considered “older,” but his addiction took hold in his twenties. Before he even turned 30, his life had unraveled—and three men in a support group, all significantly older than he was, helped save him. When someone is in genuine pain and crisis, does the age of the person offering relief really matter?<br /></p><p>Listen to John’s story. His experience underscores just how little age differences matter when it comes to recovery—and how vital it is not to let excuses stand in the way of help.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">6e41a575-d724-4f01-9a5a-1e84bd427850</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 19:19:57 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/9c7923d7722a884ae6455cc2367895628ecf7f6a1085d68c6a3eee15202a4946/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI2ZTQxYTU3NS1kNzI0LTRmMDEtOWE1YS0xZTg0YmQ0Mjc4NTAiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliYzRhNWFhODI1ZmY4MjYzYjE3Mjg1L2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMTlfXzIwLTExLTIyLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="56551176" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/6e41a575-d724-4f01-9a5a-1e84bd427850/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;You might be wondering, &lt;i&gt;“If this podcast focuses on the family, why are we hearing from the gambler?”&lt;/i&gt; The reason is simple: over the past several years, a troubling pattern has emerged. Many gamblers insist they don’t belong in recovery or support groups, claiming, &lt;i&gt;“No one here is my age—these people can’t possibly understand me.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What’s even more surprising is how often mental health professionals accept these explanations without question. Yet these age‑based excuses have been circulating for decades, and it’s essential for anyone who loves someone with a gambling addiction to recognize them for what they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Take John, for example. By today’s meeting standards, he might be considered “older,” but his addiction took hold in his twenties. Before he even turned 30, his life had unraveled—and three men in a support group, all significantly older than he was, helped save him. When someone is in genuine pain and crisis, does the age of the person offering relief really matter?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Listen to John’s story. His experience underscores just how little age differences matter when it comes to recovery—and how vital it is not to let excuses stand in the way of help.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:39:16</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>John&apos;s Story - The First Hours of Recovery</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Jodi's Story - Part II]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jodi continues sharing her journey as the wife of a compulsive gambler.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">321cceba-7398-45d6-9150-d624cd6a0d3f</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 15:37:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/8cbd220b0793f614c1d04de56594ca7b04230032b30db66344e22947b3befa08/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzMjFjY2ViYS03Mzk4LTQ1ZDYtOTE1MC1kNjI0Y2Q2YTBkM2YiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliYzE2YWU2ZDAyNzcxNzZiYTQ1YWJlL2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMTlfXzE2LTMwLTU0Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="37109178" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/321cceba-7398-45d6-9150-d624cd6a0d3f/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jodi continues sharing her journey as the wife of a compulsive gambler.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:25:46</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Jodi&apos;s Story - Part II</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Jodi's Story - Part I]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Jodi shares how gambling impacted her new relationship and marriage beginning over 35 years ago and continuing for decades.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">87809bb5-413b-4da7-a424-9606f8c78cb7</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Holstein]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 23:03:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/c507d5bdea8c62095d50f1e5527d64a29aebca13ea5e896622e618cfb0f175cc/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4NzgwOWJiNS00MTNiLTRkYTctYTQyNC05NjA2ZjhjNzhjYjciLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1NGQ0ZDQxZC1hMWYzLTRkM2MtOGQ1MC1mZWMxYTIzYWZlODEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OTJiN2QzMmNkZmZkMjBmNjI3NmI0OGUiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliOWRhYjk0NmZhMTJhZTRkZjFiNGE5L2pvZGktaG9sc3RlaW5zLXN0dWRpby1jb21wb3Nlci0yMDI2LTMtMTdfXzIzLTUwLTMyLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="52704907" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/episodes/87809bb5-413b-4da7-a424-9606f8c78cb7/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Jodi shares how gambling impacted her new relationship and marriage beginning over 35 years ago and continuing for decades.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:36:36</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/54d4d41d-a1f3-4d3c-8d50-fec1a23afe81/logos/7e5178fd-345d-4efa-a59d-22420f3c7912.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Jodi&apos;s Story - Part I</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>