The Church Systems Podcast

706. The Road With No Signs: Why Nobody Has Ever Asked Them To Join

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Tue, 13 Oct 2026 18:18:57 GMT

They are not resisting you. They are waiting.

In Luke 14 a man throws a feast and sends out invitations. The whole town knows. Then verse 17 says he sent his servant to the people he had already invited. Same guests. Second trip. A human being walking to a specific door saying it is ready, come now.

Most churches have a verse 16 and no verse 17. You have been announcing for years and nobody has ever been sent to the person.

In this episode Henry walks through the first gate of the Member Pipeline and makes the case that your church does not have a commitment problem. It has an asking problem.

Three movements:

Nobody Sent The Servant. Luke 14:16-17 and 23. An announcement is delivered to a room. An invitation has a name in it. The sentence that works has three parts, their name, why you thought of them, and a specific next step. And no, a text blast does not count. If it went to a list, it is still an announcement.

The Silence Voted For Them. John 1:46 and 2 Timothy 1:7. Three fears stop the ask. Rejection, awkwardness, and not knowing the words. Every one of them is about the asker. Not one is about the person being asked. And the worst one is the one that sounds spiritual.

Somebody Has To Walk Them In. Acts 9:26-27. Saul tried to join the disciples and they were afraid of him. Then four words changed church history. But Barnabas took him. Belonging is assigned, not felt. Every person who stays at your church has one human being who would notice if they stopped coming.

Tools do the sending. People do the church.

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Episode 705: Attender Is Not A Member

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Fri, 02 Oct 2026 19:22:10 GMT

There are two different people sitting in the same seat at your church. One of them is visiting. One of them has already decided this is home.

And you treat both of them exactly the same, because you cannot tell them apart. Nobody ever built a road between them. There is a chair, and there is a family, and in most churches in this country there is absolutely nothing in between.

October opens the Member Pipeline, and Henry starts with a sentence that is going to bother some people. You have been counting the crowd and calling it the church.

Three movements. The crowd, the covenant, and the commission.

John 6. Jesus has the biggest crowd of his ministry and he preaches a sermon that empties the room. He gets harder, not softer. Not the Pharisees, his own disciples walked out. And then he turns to the twelve and asks the question no pastor in this country is willing to ask anybody. Are you also going to leave?

Jesus was willing to lose a crowd in order to keep a body. Most pastors have never been willing to lose anybody, and that is exactly why they do not have a body.

Then Ruth. Your people will be my people, your God will be my God. That is not a feeling and it is not attendance. It is a covenant statement, spoken out loud, to a specific person, with no exit built into it. A foreign woman with no claim chose a people and said so, and that one sentence put her in the lineage of Christ.

And then Paul calls them members, and we hear roster. He meant body part. A hand. A foot. An eye. A body part has a function and a place it belongs to, and a person in a crowd has neither.

You cannot commission a crowd.

IN THIS EPISODE

Why Acts 2:47 proves the early church had edges and we only have attendance

The three stages of the road: stranger, citizen, family, and why nobody skips one

Why your membership class never fills and your small group has the same eight people

The reason your leader shortage in December starts with your membership gap in October

Scripture: John 6, Acts 2:47, Ruth 1:16, Ephesians 2:19, 1 Corinthians 12

You do not have a commitment problem in your people. You have a covenant problem in your house. Nobody ever asked them for one.

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Henry Tolbert is the founder of Simple Systems Consulting and an Associate Pastor at The STAR Church. He and Latoya Tolbert help small and bivocational pastors build churches that run on systems instead of exhaustion.

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Episode 704: You Are The One Nobody Asks About

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Fri, 25 Sep 2026 14:44:50 GMT

Latoya hosts and teaches this one.

You know who's struggling at your church. You know who got quiet. You know who stopped raising their hand in Bible study. You know who didn't come back after the funeral, and you know exactly which Sunday it was.

Now name the last person who noticed you.

Not the last person who needed you. Not the last person who thanked you for something you did for them. The last person who looked at you and could tell.

If you had to stop and think about it, this one is for you.

Latoya walks three things. The service, which starts in Luke 10 with Martha saying the thing out loud that most women in ministry have never said once. The silence, which is what she stopped saying and why. And the seeing, which is Genesis 16, where a pregnant slave woman alone in a desert becomes the first person in all of scripture to name God.

She doesn't call him the God who rescues me. She doesn't call him the God who fixes it. She calls him the God who sees me.

And notice what God does not do. He doesn't change her circumstance. He sends her back. What changed is that somebody saw her inside it.

IN THIS EPISODE

Why Jesus doesn't scold Martha for serving, and what he does instead

The research: 51% of women in church leadership are at high risk of burnout

Why female pastors report lower satisfaction and lower confidence than men

Four reasons she doesn't say anything, and two of them belong to the church

Genesis 16, and the difference between being watched and being seen

Scripture: Luke 10, Genesis 16:13

Being seen is not the same as being watched. Watching evaluates. Seeing knows.

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Latoya Tolbert helps lead the online campus at THE STAR Church and hosts the women's room for Simple Systems Consulting. She and Henry Tolbert help small and bivocational pastors build churches that run on systems instead of exhaustion.

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Episode 703: Nobody Follows Up With The Pastor

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Fri, 25 Sep 2026 14:41:00 GMT

Nobody checked on your pastor this week.

Somebody probably typed "praying for you Pastor" under a post. Somebody shook their hand at the door and said good word. But nobody asked how they were doing and then got quiet long enough to hear the second answer.

You already know the first answer. Blessed. Highly favored. Can't complain. They've said it ten thousand times and meant it maybe half of those.

This episode is for two rooms at the same time. If you're a church member, it's so you know what to ask. If you're a pastor, it's so you know you're not crazy.

Henry walks three things. The weight, which is what they're actually carrying, backed by research most churches have never seen. The wall, which is why nobody asks, and both sides built it. And the watchman, which is Exodus 17, where a national battle turned on whether two men were willing to hold up one man's arms.

Somebody noticed Moses' hands were getting heavy without being told. Somebody brought a chair. Two men, one on each side, and they stayed until sundown.

Israel didn't win because Moses was strong. Israel won because two men decided his arms were their assignment.

IN THIS EPISODE

What the data says: one in four pastors seriously considered leaving in the past year

Why vocational satisfaction dropped twenty points in eleven years

The Duke research on clergy physical health nobody talks about in church

Four reasons nobody asks, and why two of them belong to the pastor

Exodus 17, and the question every church should be able to answer

Scripture: Exodus 17:12, Ezekiel 33

Who watches the one who does the watching?

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Episode 702: The Reply Is The Job

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 17 Sep 2026 17:51:16 GMT

Somebody reached out to your church this week. A text, an email, a comment on a post. And nobody answered.

That was not an inquiry you missed. That was a person offering you a relationship, and your church said no by saying nothing.

In this episode Henry starts on a mountain. 1 Kings 18, Carmel, four hundred and fifty prophets on one side and one man on the other. Two altars, same wood, same bull, same crowd, same sky. The only variable in the whole experiment is which name gets called on. And Elijah sets the terms himself. The god who answers, that one is God.

Then the turn. Because every week your church is one of those two altars, and somebody reaches out and finds out which one.

The core of this episode is a claim worth arguing with. You cannot disciple a stranger. Relationship comes before discipleship, every single time, and there is no version of this where you skip it. Mark 3:14 says Jesus appointed twelve so they would accompany him, and then he would send them out. Accompany comes first in the sentence and first in the sequence. Three years of walking and eating and arguing came before a single one of them preached anything.

We built almost every church program in America on the second half of that verse.

IN THIS EPISODE

The showdown at Carmel, and why the verdict was about presence and not power

Mark 3:14, Zacchaeus, and the woman at the well

The sequence that does not run in any other order: conversation, relationship, attendance, belonging, discipleship

Why your membership class does not fill and your small group has the same eight people

Who you connect with outside the room sets the pace for everybody inside it

Scripture: 1 Kings 18, Mark 3:14, Luke 19, John 4

No unanswered message ever became a baptism. Not one, ever, in the history of the church.

Tools do the sending. People do the church.

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Episode 701: The System Is Running. Nobody Is Home.

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Fri, 04 Sep 2026 23:10:50 GMT

Somebody visited your church last Sunday. Whatever you use to follow up, a card, an app, a text thread, a clipboard, somebody's memory, something happened this week. And your numbers have not moved in a year.

That is not a tool problem. That is four empty chairs.

Season 7 of Apostolic Insight is called The Four Pipelines. Guests. Members. Givers. Leaders. Sixteen gates between them, and every single gate hands off to a human being. No software gets a name at the door. No software answers a text. No software recognizes a face on visit two.

In this first episode Henry names all four guest gates, walks through why the stations are empty at most small churches, and does the math out loud on what one unstaffed gate costs you in people every year.

IN THIS EPISODE

The four gates every guest pipeline runs through

Why friendly churches lose guests at the same rate as cold ones

The Wednesday problem, and why your first move is three days late

What an operator actually is: a name, one number, and a report day

The real cost of a chair nobody is sitting in

Scripture: Luke 14:23 NLT

Tools do the sending. People do the church.

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Episode 403- Why Most Churches Are Planning to Fail

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 13 Nov 2024 15:00:00 GMT

Why Most Churches Are Planning to Fail (and How to Fix It!) In this eye-opening episode of the Church Systems Podcast, Henry Tolbert dives deep into why so many churches unintentionally plan to fail by neglecting strategic planning. Using his 5Ps framework—People, Processes, Projects, Preaching, and Provision—Henry equips leaders with the tools they need to prepare for impactful ministry, effectively steward resources, and lead teams with clarity. This episode is packed with practical insights for pastors and ministry leaders ready to shift from “just doing church” to purposeful, kingdom-driven planning. Don’t miss out on the blueprint that’s helping churches nationwide! Listen now on Church Systems Podcast Learn more about the Blueprint Builder and start your journey: www.GetChurchSystems.com

Episode 207: The Complete Guide to Modern Evangelism

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:00:00 GMT

The Complete Guide to Modern Evangelism Join The Church Systems Bootcamp: https://getchurchsystems.com/csb-only-6093 Join Henry Tolbert as he delves into the transformative world of modern evangelism straight from the Midwinter boards for the Baptist church in Memphis, Tennessee. Discover how to navigate the digital realm to foster spiritual growth and healthy church expansion. - The critical role of digital spaces in today’s evangelism efforts and how they relate to the work of Paul from Acts 17. - The necessity for churches to automate core systems to maintain engagement with congregation members around the clock. - The introduction of the Church Systems Boot Camp and its comprehensive resources designed to bolster evangelism strategies. - How the pandemic has reshaped the concept of community through digital meetings and discipleship. - The importance of virtual evangelism through targeted social media advertising to reach and connect with a diverse audience.

Episode 404: Why You Church Isn't Growing (And How to Fix It)

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 13:00:00 GMT

Many churches struggle with growth because they’re waiting for the pastor to do what he doesn’t know how to do. If you’ve been praying, preaching, and planning, but your church is still stuck, this episode is for you.

Henry Tolbert breaks down three major mistakes that keep churches from growing and provides practical solutions that pastors can implement without burnout. Learn why your visitor retention system, leadership pipeline, and discipleship process could be the barriers holding your church back.

In This Episode, You’ll Discover:
✅ Why your church might be stuck at the same attendance level for years
✅ The hidden reason visitors come but don’t stay
✅ How to stop feeling overworked and close to burnout
✅ The power of a proven framework for church growth
✅ Steps to build sustainable systems that ensure long-term health

Three Key Mistakes Discussed:
1️⃣ No system for attracting and retaining visitors – Why praying for growth isn't enough if you’re not prepared for it
2️⃣ The pastor is doing everything – How to stop being the bottleneck and build a real leadership team
3️⃣ No clear discipleship & engagement path – Why you must define a journey for new believers and members

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Ep 6- Help! I'm a Discouraged Leader

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 12:00:00 GMT

Do you ever feel like you’re a discouraged leader? Discouraged leaders are those who lack confidence. They are the ones who are downhearted and seem to be off their tracks. I know there's something in your heart, in your mind that you've been wanting to do a vision, that you've been wanting to chase, wanted to push forward, and for whatever reason, you've just been slow in doing it. Well, I'm encouraging you to jump out there, develop a strategy, come up with a plan, and go. I want to be an encouragement to you. Episode 6 is all about the 10 Reasons for Leaders to be Encouraged. www.simplesystems.cc/blog

Episode 201- Why Your Church Needs An On;ine Campus

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 17 Aug 2023 00:00:00 GMT

There is a HUGE difference between and Online Service and an Online Campus. One of them keeps people at a difference and one of them draws people closer. In this episode, Henry helps you see how you can move your church forward in the digital space.

Episode 206: Connecting Newcomers: 7 Simple Steps From Decisions to Disciples

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 06:00:00 GMT

Connecting Newcomers: 7 Simple Steps to Move People From Decisions to Disciples Welcome to Episode 206 of the Church Systems podcast! In this episode, we delve into "7 Simple Steps to Move People from Decisions to Disciples" as part of our commitment to equipping churches with high-value strategies. In this episode, we cover: Step 1: Building Intake Forms in Multiple Formats Step 2: In-Service Invitations Step 3: Follow-Up via Call, Email, and Text Step 4: Hosting New Members Class Step 5: Spiritual Gifts Testing Step 6: Graduation Step 7: Planning Handoffs Join us as we explore the significance of these steps in fostering a sense of belonging and commitment within your church community. We offer real-life examples, practical tips, and valuable insights to guide you in implementing these strategies effectively. Tune in to discover how these steps can collectively impact your church's journey in moving people from decisions to disciples. Don't miss out on the opportunity to enhance your church systems with these powerful strategies! Join the Church Systems Bootcamp Today: https://getchurchsystems.com/csb-only-6093

EP. 17- The Moment I Knew I Was Called to Ministry

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:00:00 GMT

Episode 209- Click To Connect: The Revolutionary Path to Digital Discipleship

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 18:00:00 GMT

In this empowering episode of the Church Systems podcast, host Henry Tolbert shares invaluable insights on digital discipleship, emphasizing its importance and offering effective strategies for churches looking to engage and nurture their congregations online. Key Takeaways: - Understanding what digital discipleship is and why it's crucial for spiritual development in the digital age. - Exploring the core components that make up a successful digital discipleship pathway, which includes online new members classes, virtual altar calls, and an in-depth online discipleship program. - The 24/7 availability of digital discipleship, allowing spiritual activities to occur at any time, tailored to individuals’ schedules. - How the automated processes of digital discipleship significantly reduce the workload for church staff while remaining user-friendly and familiar to congregants. - A look into future plans for custom apps to make discipleship classes easily accessible through mobile devices. Whether you're a church leader or a member seeking to enhance your spiritual journey, tune in to learn how Henry Tolbert's insights can help you 'click to connect' with your online congregation, fostering growth and community in the modern church landscape. Henry also invites listeners who want to skip the learning curve and benefit from Simple Systems Consulting's expertise to schedule a breakthrough session and apply for their Church Systems Bootcamp. An opportunity not to be missed for any church determined to navigate the digital revolution with grace and fervor.

Episode 208: How Systems Transformed Our Church

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 18:00:00 GMT

Dive into the transformative power of church systems with host Henry Tolbert on the Church Systems podcast episode titled 'How Systems Transformed My Church.' This insightful discussion debunks common myths, showcasing how systems can foster personal and scalable ministry, debunking the misconceptions that systems are impersonal, overly complex for small churches, or that relying on systems indicates a lack of faith. Henry illustrates with real-life examples, including how Pastor Derek Parks's church multiplied attendance and Pastor Eric Rush's church grew significantly, demonstrating systems' capacity to revolutionize mindset, methodology, and motivate church leadership. Discover the essential building blocks for creating effective church systems, such as leadership and vision alignment, managing volunteers, and financial stewardship. The episode provides actionable steps to assess needs, set goals, and monitor progress, rounding it off with personal experiences from Henry's journey as a church planter. Tune in, be inspired, and start your journey towards strategically accelerated church growth. Remember, achieving more with the resources at hand begins with systems thinking.

Ep. 4: Four Issues Your Church Needs to Address ASAP!

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:00:00 GMT

In this episode of the Digital Discipleship Podcast, we take a deeper look at the need for discipleship. We move to discover WHY Digital Discipleship matters, and how your church can use it to solve real problems that people are facing.

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Episode 402- Locking the Back Door

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:00:00 GMT

Episode Summary: In today's episode, we’re tackling a crucial issue that many churches face—retention. Are you finding it challenging to not only bring in new members but also keep them engaged and committed? Then this episode is for you. Host Henry Tolbert dives deep into practical strategies for "locking the back door" of your church. You'll learn how to create a welcoming, sticky church environment that encourages new visitors to become lifelong members through effective assimilation and follow-up. Henry covers: What it means to "lock the back door" and why it's essential for church growth. The importance of creating an assimilation process that brings new members from outsiders to insiders. The power of consistent follow-up and why joining a church is rarely a one-visit decision. Simple strategies to help plug the holes in your church’s retention systems. Real-world insights from the Church Systems Bootcamp and success stories from leaders who have implemented these strategies. If you're ready to stop losing members and start growing your church, this episode is packed with actionable steps and wisdom that you can apply immediately. Plus, hear from Henry's wife, Latoya Tolbert, who shares how their team supports pastors on a personal and spiritual level in their mission for church growth. Links Mentioned in This Episode: Learn more about the Church Systems Bootcamp and how we can help your church implement these systems for sustainable growth: getchurchsystems.com Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more church growth strategies and leadership insights: Henry Tolbert on YouTube Follow Us: Website: Simple Systems Consulting YouTube: Henry Tolbert Stay Connected: Don’t forget to tune in to our next episode, "Why Most Churches Are Planning to Fail," where Henry discusses how some churches unknowingly plan for failure. You won’t want to miss it!

Episode 204: Why Your Church's Worship Service May Be Failing: The Truth Revealed

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Tue, 02 Jan 2024 15:00:00 GMT

In this episode, Henry Tolbert delves into the importance of worship planning in the context of church growth and spiritual development. He emphasizes the need for intentional organization and unity in preparing for weekend worship services. Henry shares valuable insights on creating agendas, identifying and nurturing teams, aligning music with the message and audience, and engaging the congregation effectively. Moreover, he highlights the role of technology in enhancing engagement and reinforcing the sermon's impact through repurposing content. Join Henry as he guides you through the diligent and purposeful process of worship planning, offering practical tips for creating a meaningful and impactful worship experience. If you're seeking to positively influence your church's growth and spiritual development, this episode is a must-listen. Host: Henry Tolbert Episode: The Power of Worship Planning Runtime: Approximately 18 minutes

Episode 210: The Church Funnel- From the Crowd to the Core

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 22 Feb 2024 17:00:00 GMT

Join Henry Tolbert on The Simple Systems Network for the compelling Church Systems podcast, where this week we dive deep into the transformative 'church funnel' methodology. Episode 210, 'The Church Funnel,' reveals Jesus' strategic approach to engaging distinct people groups, providing actionable insights for church leaders today. Explore the 'levels of engagement,' from the '5000' seeking provision to the intimate '12' and '3' seeking deeper involvement. Don’t miss this enlightening discussion on nurturing a thriving church community, where every encounter with faith becomes unforgettable. Tune in to learn how to move members 'from the crowd to the core' and foster growth at every step of the spiritual journey. #ChurchGrowth #Leadership #CommunityEngagement #ChurchFunnel

RE:Church: How You Can Bring New Life to Your Church

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 06:00:00 GMT

The church is going through a major shift. Following the pandemic, church leaders everywhere are being challenged to rethink their vision and their approach to ministry. This means taking a hard look at what IS so they can explore what COULD BE. In this inaugural episode of the Digital Discipleship Podcast, we explore a simple four-step process to get your church moving in the right direction.

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Episode 202: Spirit & Strategy

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 00:00:00 GMT

There have been many church movements over the past decade. Some with more focus on the Spirit and some with more focus on the Strategy. The future church must embrace both. In this episode, we explore a simple method to become a SPIRIT & STRATEGY Church. Learn more at www.getchurchsystems.com

EP. 15- The Intimate Church

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:00:00 GMT

Episode 203- The Power of Togetherness

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 21 Sep 2023 00:00:00 GMT

Church growth often begins internally before it becomes external. In this episode, we take a look at how church leaders can begin winning their community by first winning their teams.

EP. 8- I Need Some HELP!

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 21 Feb 2022 13:00:00 GMT

On Episode 8 of the Digital Discipleship Podcast, I Need Some Help! A Simple Strategy to Build a Team for the Future, we're going to talk about how you would make a team that would be a great fit for the future of your church and what things to consider in choosing the right people for your team.

Episode 401- Wake Up Call

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:00:00 GMT

In this episode of the Church Systems Podcast, host Henry Tolbert dives deep into a critical topic for church leaders: the importance of having a fresh, clear vision for your church. Many leaders are operating in a new season with an old vision, and this "wake up call" challenges you to rethink how a strong, well-defined vision can ignite growth and engagement in your ministry. Henry shares a step-by-step blueprint for developing a compelling vision that will not only inspire your congregation but also serve as a guide for future growth. From understanding the importance of mission and values to creating a simple discipleship process, you'll walk away with actionable steps to revitalize your church's direction. Plus, hear from special guest Pastor Romanda Maxwell, who experienced incredible results within just 30 days of implementing Henry's systems. She shares how her church saw standing-room-only attendance after applying the assimilation and evangelism systems. This episode is packed with insights and practical strategies for church leaders ready to embrace a new vision and move their congregation forward. Whether you're facing declining attendance, disengaged members, or struggling with direction, this wake-up call is for you! Key Takeaways: Why your church's vision might be the missing ingredient for growth. A practical framework for developing and implementing a clear vision. How a clear mission and values can engage your congregation and drive momentum. Real-life results from a church that embraced a new vision and experienced rapid growth. Tune in for this powerful episode and get ready to take the first step toward a renewed and thriving church! Next Episode Preview: Don’t miss our next episode, “Locking the Back Door: How to Keep New People,” where we’ll discuss strategies for improving retention and building long-term engagement.

Episode 213: The Ripple Effect | 5 Keys to Unlocking Your Leadership Potential

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:00:00 GMT

Welcome to another enlightening episode of "The Church Systems Podcast," where we dive deep into the realms of effective church leadership and transformative personal growth. In this episode, our host, Henry Tolbert, shares invaluable insights into how church leaders can unlock their full potential, ensuring their church's growth and success.

In This Episode:

The Importance of Strategic Leadership:
- Discover the significance of transitioning from hands-on tasks to a more strategic leadership role.
- Understand how effective delegation and empowerment can significantly impact your church's growth and health.
Biblical Insights on Leadership:
- Explore the teachings of Ephesians 4 and how it relates to equipping the saints for ministry, emphasizing the leader's role in empowering others rather than doing all the work.
Inspiring Your Team:
- Learn the key strategies to inspire and motivate your team and congregation, fostering a proactive and productive church environment.
Personal Growth and Church Success:
- Connect the dots between your personal development as a leader and the overall success of your church.
- Hear stories of transformation and success that illustrate the profound impact of focused personal growth on church leadership.
Practical Steps for Leadership Development:
- Gain actionable insights and practical steps to start your journey of personal growth and leadership development.

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Episode 211: From the Masses to the Mission

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:00:00 GMT

In the latest episode entitled 'Masses to Mission: Developing Leaders at Every Level,' host Henry Tolbert dives deep into the concept of the church funnel introduced in the previous session. In this extensive guide, Henry details how churches can nurture individuals at varying stages of their spiritual journey, from the initial crowd to core leadership roles. He emphasizes the importance of meeting congregants where they are and facilitating their growth toward where God intends them to be. The episode kicks off with Henry reviewing the six levels of the church funnel, a strategy inspired by Jesus's ministry - the 5000 (provision), the 500 (practice), the 72 (position), the 12 (practice), the 3 (partnership), and the 1 (passion). Providing case studies, Henry highlights the challenges church leaders face when members are misaligned with their roles and capacitated within the church structure. He stresses the necessity for accountability and the ability to recognize the current positions of individuals in order to develop them effectively. From introducing the 5000 to the essence of the church to integrating the 72 into the church's vision, each level receives thorough treatment geared toward effective and impactful development within the church. Henry also discusses the importance of improvement through continual training, notably for the inner circle - the three. Wrapping up, Henry touches on granting influence to those on the passion level, preparing them for significant leadership. The episode promises a follow-up that will explore implementing the church funnel to attract new members and is a must-listen for church leaders looking for practical steps to foster growth within their congregations.

EP. 13- Your Leadership Lens

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 28 Mar 2022 13:00:00 GMT

Season 1, Episode 13 of the Digital Discipleship Podcast entitled: "Your Leadership Lens" is about identifying your leadership lens and understanding how you see the world around you. Using Paul's model from Ephesians 4, we explore why you lead the way you lead and how you can lead better.

Ep. 9- The 6 Types of Working Genius

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 28 Feb 2022 13:00:00 GMT

Let me tell you this; you don't have to compare yourself in any aspects amongst others. Why? Simply because we're all different, you are different, your church is different, the culture you were grown in is different, your people are different, and lastly, your calling is different from what others the Lord has called them to do. In this episode, I will be sharing some knowledge on discovering your area of greatness and the six types of working genius. I know this will help you see the spot where you may be something special.

Episode 405: Breaking the 100 Barrier

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:00:00 GMT

Many pastors find themselves stuck at the 100-member mark, unable to push past this common growth barrier. If that sounds familiar, this episode is for you! In this episode, Henry Tolbert dives deep into why breaking the 100 barrier matters, the key mindset shifts needed for growth, and five critical strategies that will position your church for sustainable expansion. Growth isn’t just about numbers—it’s about building a healthy, thriving church that serves more people, develops leaders, and fulfills its mission. If you’re tired of feeling stagnant, overworked, and stuck, this conversation will give you practical, proven steps to move forward.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

✅ Why church growth is biblical (and why you should never feel guilty for wanting it)

✅ The leadership shift that will help you prepare for sustainable growth

✅ How to stop being the bottleneck and build a team that supports expansion

✅ Why breaking church silos is crucial to building a thriving community

✅ The power of future-focused leadership and how to position your church for what’s next

Key Takeaways & Action Steps:

🔹 Be unapologetic about your desire to grow – If you hesitate to embrace growth, your church won’t naturally move forward. Cast a clear vision and communicate it boldly.

🔹 Develop a strong leadership pipeline – The team that got you here may not be the team that gets you to the next level. Start training future leaders now.

🔹 Break the silos & small cliques – Growth requires a culture shift. Ministries must be open, inclusive, and collaborative to welcome new people.

🔹 Shift from short-term to long-term thinking – Churches that break the 100 barrier prepare in advance by creating scalable systems and strategies.

🔹 Prepare for what’s next – Build your church as if it’s already growing, ensuring that processes, systems, and structures can handle an increase in attendance.

Pastor Testimony:

In this episode, Pastor Eric Rush shares his real-life experience of breaking the 100 barrier and the strategies that worked for his church. From redesigning their welcome experience to implementing a strong invite strategy, Pastor Rush reveals key insights that helped his church break through stagnation and step into sustained growth. If you’ve been waiting for the right plan to grow your church, don’t miss this powerful conversation!

Next Steps:

If you’re ready to implement these strategies in your church and break free from stagnation, start taking action today! If this episode blessed you, share it with another pastor who needs encouragement and leave a review. Your support helps more leaders gain the tools they need to grow their church and reach more people for the Kingdom!

Episode 406: The Silent Struggle

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 31 Mar 2025 05:00:00 GMT

Are you a church leader feeling overwhelmed by the constant demands of ministry? In this episode, "5 Steps to Beat Burnout for Church Leaders," we dive into practical strategies to help you recover from burnout and rediscover your passion for leadership and discipleship. Burnout is a silent struggle many pastors face, but you don’t have to carry the weight alone. There is hope.

Here’s what you’ll learn in this video:

- **How to identify the warning signs of burnout** like "everything exhaustion," disconnection, and hamster wheel hangover.

- **5 actionable steps to start your recovery**, including prioritizing tasks, delegating effectively, and joining a supportive community.

- **The importance of building a "best self" plan** to nurture your mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual well-being.

- **Why connecting with a like-minded community matters** and how it can transform your ministry journey.

- **How resetting your internal clock can realign your leadership mindset** with God’s timing.

You’ll also hear real-life examples and encouragement from church leaders who’ve experienced the same challenges and found solutions through intentionality and connection.

💡 **Key Takeaway**: You were never meant to do ministry alone. By letting go of unnecessary burdens, empowering others, and leaning into a supportive network, you can navigate burnout and step into the fullness of what God has called you to do.

➡️ Ready to take the next step? Join the Church Systems Bootcamp to gain tools, strategies, and a thriving community that will walk with you every step of the way!

📌 **You’re not alone. There’s hope. Together, we can tackle burnout and build a stronger foundation for church growth and leadership.

** #ChurchGrowth #LeadershipDevelopment #BurnoutRecovery #PastorLife #ChurchSystems #Discipleship #MinistryLeadership #FaithLeadership #pastorself-care #burnout #howtorecoverfrommomburnout #churchleadershipburnout #burnoutrecovery

CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Intro 00:49 - Why Leaders Are Leaving Ministry

02:06 - The Silent Struggle of Leaders

05:53 - Recognizing Burnout Signs

12:10 - Letting Go of Responsibilities

17:30 - Delegating Tasks Effectively

21:55 - Breaking the Silence on Struggles

22:00 - Importance of Community Support

29:58 - Community Engagement Benefits

31:20 - Building Your Best Self Plan

35:20 - Resetting Your Life Clock

40:35 - Value of Community in Ministry

46:29 - Final Thoughts on Leadership

47:38 - Getting Serious About Help

48:37 - Next Episode: Synchronizing Gears

EP. 7- HELP! Our Livestream Sucks!

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 14 Feb 2022 06:00:00 GMT

Thank you for checking out our podcast last week, where we talked about the "1" Reasons for Leaders to be Encouraged!" "we're the theme of HELP this month of February, so this week, our seventh episode is now available entitled: "Help! Our Livestream Is Bad! 10 Ideas To Improve Your Livestream" " Have you ever imagined before that this day will come wherein we will be doing Sunday services online? Honestly speaking, I'm a traditionalist in many ways. So a part of me wants to be angry at this option of doing church online because I don't think you could do church that way, but I'm telling you, it is a real possibility. It is a real thing that people are wrestling through, and it's something that we've had to figure out. We are in a digital world right now, and we can't escape the reality that this generation was all into technology. People can access, participate in and experience the world virtually through gadgets, systems, applications, technologies, and networks such as the Internet. People these days, especially during this time of Pandemic, can connect with people, places, services, and content safely and thoroughly from a distance. Now, If you're a leader who is: a) planning to hold a Livestream or b) doing this for a while yet you keep on struggling with your Livestream then, this episode is most suitable for you! I will be giving you the 10 Ideas To Improve Your Livestream PLUS the secrets that I used for my Livestream! So, go ahead and listen now to Episode 7 of the Digital Discipleship Podcast. You're not going to want to miss it! Until then, keep the gears turning!

The 10 Church Killers Part 1

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 29 May 2024 05:00:00 GMT

In this episode of The Church Systems Podcast, host Henry Tolbert discusses the important topic of church decline and strategies for pastors dealing with challenges after the pandemic. Key Highlights: 1. Understanding the Reality of Church Decline: - Henry recognizes the common issue of churches facing decline and addresses the misconception of constant growth in today's tough circumstances. 2. Maximizing Current Opportunities: - Exploring the importance of seizing the present moment and making the most of existing chances for church advancement. 3. Exploring Church Killers: - Henry introduces the concept of 'Church Killers,' ten factors that can lead to church decline. He offers guidance on recognizing and overcoming these challenges. 4. Tackling Pastoral Overload: - Discussing the risks of pastors burning out, highlighting signs of being overwhelmed like stress, lack of time, inefficient energy use, and financial limitations. 5. Reasons Leading to Decline: - Henry explains the initial five factors that can contribute to church decline, focusing on issues such as unclear mission and vision, ineffective outreach, weak discipleship paths, irrelevant ministries, and chaotic church operations. 6. Solutions for Sustainable Growth: - Providing practical solutions for pastors to improve church operations, establish a clear growth plan, and enhance community engagement effectively. Conclusion: Wrapping up part one of this episode, Pastor Henry Tolbert encourages church leaders to ponder their current difficulties and equips them with actionable steps to guide their churches towards lasting growth and success. Join him in the next episode as he unveils the remaining strategies to propel churches toward a vibrant and thriving future.

Episode 5: Five Ideas For Reaching New People

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 31 Jan 2022 06:00:00 GMT

In this episode, we discuss a few simple strategies you can use to reach new people and the factors that often affect church growth.

Episode 212: From Plan to Progress

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 07 Mar 2024 18:00:00 GMT

In this episode of the Church Systems podcast, host Henry Tolbert shares a vision for church growth and sustainable expansion. With a deep understanding of the challenges faced by church leaders, Henry offers practical solutions and guidance, empowering pastors and church teams to navigate the journey of growth without succumbing to burnout. Henry kicks off the episode by emphasizing the importance of moving from plan to progress in implementing the church funnel. He stresses the need for real action in driving spiritual, numerical, and financial growth within the church community. Understanding that challenges vary based on the size of the church, Henry addresses pastors with smaller congregations, assuring them that the blueprint he’s about to unveil is designed to facilitate doubling and expansion, regardless of the current church size. He delves into the concept of leadership influence, drawing parallels between the influence of leaders and the leadership of Jesus, who guided his followers from darkness to light. Henry underscores the significance of senior leaders as the driving force for church direction and growth, emphasizing the unique responsibility they carry. As the episode progresses, Henry introduces a comprehensive framework for building a firm foundation. From the importance of prayer and growth-focused teams to the necessity of systems and a commitment to a year-long strategy, Henry offers practical steps for setting the right foundations to achieve sustainable growth. The blueprint he unveils is tailored to address specific levels within the church community, encompassing strategies for engaging and nurturing growth at each level, from engaging the 5000 to leading the 3 and to the ultimate goal of expansion to the 1. Henry emphasizes the need for value-driven offerings to engage the broader community and emphasizes the importance of training and development to cultivate effective leaders within the church. Throughout the episode, Henry’s language remains empathetic and supportive, instilling hope and offering actionable insights. His personal anecdotes and practical advice make this episode an inspiring and practical guide for church leaders seeking sustainable growth and community engagement. To learn more about how the Simple Systems Consulting team is empowering church leaders, visit their website at getchurchsystems.com. Join Henry in his mission to achieve church growth, sustainability, and deeper community engagement as he continues to share invaluable insights and resources on the Church Systems podcast. Tune in to this episode and embark on the journey of sustainable church growth with Henry Tolbert as your inspiring guide.

EP 14. Leaning Into Your Leadership Lens

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 04 Apr 2022 13:00:00 GMT

Episode 214: Why Your Church Growth Strategy Needs a Personal Touch

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:00:00 GMT

Welcome to the show notes for episode 214 of The Church Systems podcast titled 'Why Your Church Growth Strategy Needs a Personal Touch'. Your host, Henry Tolbert, provides invaluable insights into how church leaders can identify and secure the help they need to foster church growth and support their ministry.

Throughout this episode, Henry discusses the detriments of adopting generic strategies and emphasizes the importance of customizing growth strategies to fit a church's unique context, culture, community, and challenges.

Key takeaways from this episode include:

- The recognition that not all programs will work for every church, particularly those that do not take into account the unique aspects of black church culture.

- A detailed explanation of the three types of help available in the market: courses, consulting, and coaching, with Henry advising on how to choose based on your church's needs and investment levels.

- The importance of avoiding 'Saul's armor', a metaphor for not adopting large church strategies that may not suit smaller congregations.

- Henry's five key points for identifying the right help, including understanding the four C's (context, culture, community, and challenges), avoiding unsuitable strategies ('Saul's armor'), and recognizing testimonials and customization in potential resources.

- An encouragement for listeners to seek help that meets their current needs and fits who they are today.

Throughout the episode, Henry shares real-world testimonies of church transformations achieved through strategic and personalized growth strategies, showcasing the impact of tailored support. For continued education and support, Henry encourages listeners to reach out for guidance.

Those interested in pursuing personalized help can click the link in the episode description or text 'CHAT' to 205-496-7997 to schedule a consultation. Remember to keep tuning in to The Church Systems Podcast for more episodes that equip you with the tools to thrive in your ministry.

Until next time, keep the gears turning.

EP. 10- Gather. Grow. Go!

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 07 Mar 2022 14:00:00 GMT

So today, we're on our 10th episode, and we're going to talk about "Gather. Grow. Go!: A Strategy to Break Growth Barriers"

Let me ask you this, have you ever thought of a strategy, a plan, a system, or a formula that we can grab and show us how we can effectively build the vision that God has given us?

If yes, how does it work for you? Do you think you are using the right one that fits you and your church?

And if you haven't thought of any, let me tell you that there's a SIMPLE SYSTEM FORMULA that you can follow. I can't guarantee you any of that, but I believe it will work for MOST CHURCHES.

Jump into this episode and let's unpack this strategy together.

EP. 16- Building Your Assimilation System

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 18 Apr 2022 05:00:00 GMT

Episode 215: Growth by Design: The Strategic Path to Expanding Your Ministry

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:00:00 GMT

Tune into this transformative episode with Henry Tolbert as he outlines the strategic path to expanding your ministry. Learn why strategic growth is crucial and how to effectively implement growth strategies within your church. Highlights of this episode include: Understanding the foundations of strategic church growth. Practical strategies for church expansion. Inspirational stories from churches that have seen real growth through strategic planning. Henry also covers our tailored offerings: Ministry Map Makeover: Get a custom strategic plan developed during a personal workshop with Henry, available both online and onsite. Church Systems Bootcamp: Join our 12-month intensive coaching program for access to comprehensive church management tools. Virtual XP: Enhance your team's performance with Henry as your virtual executive pastor, providing direct coaching and support. Interested in more? Click below to learn more about how our services can support your church's growth journey. Subscribe to our podcast for regular insights and advice tailored to proactive church leaders. Learn more: https://getchurchsystems.com/1-home Get the Church Growth Blueprint E-Book: https://www.getchurchsystems.com/the-church-growth-blueprint-ebook

Episode 205: Stop Waiting, Start Inviting

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:00:00 GMT

In the latest episode of the Church Systems podcast, join Henry Tolbert, renowned founder of Simple Systems Consulting, as he delves into the transformative power of personal outreach with 'Stop Waiting, Start Inviting.' Drawing from his own experience as a church planter, Henry shares an uplifting account of how extending three casual invitations to outsiders led to an astonishing influx of 25 new church members in under a week. This episode is a compelling testimony to the capacity every church has for growth by stepping out in faith, reevaluating processes for inclusivity, and believing in the potential within each person to be touched by God's transformative love. With his supportive and empowering coaching style, Henry provides listeners with six essential strategies for turning acquaintances into disciples and the church into a thriving community. This is more than a podcast; it's a call to action for church leaders faithfully seeking expansion, not just within their walls but in the vast ocean of the unchurched. Tune in for insights that embody the Simple Systems Consulting mission: expanding God's kingdom through healthy church growth. #ChurchGrowth #FaithDrivenLeadership #HealthyChurchGrowth

15 Benefits of Discipleship

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:00:00 GMT

One of the things that the pandemic has shown us is that the church has settled. It has settled for great events and services, great buildings and facilities, great preachers and programs; and none of that is bad. However, in many ways, the church has dropped the ball when it comes to discipleship and developing people. The way we found that out is, we were put in a situation where we could no longer have fellowship and service and so much of what we do… just fell apart. Even for those of us who leveraged the virtual space and were able to help our church keep running in tough times, the lives of the people started to show us that we have dropped the ball on discipleship. In this episode, we talk about 15 reasons why your church should focus on discipleship this year. Get the Show Notes https://www.simplesystems.cc/blog/15benefitsofdiscipleship

EP. 12- How to Get Yourself Unstuck

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:00:00 GMT

Feeling stuck? It happens to the best leaders in the world. In this episode, we’ll explore the barriers you might be facing and how to get to the other side of them.

Building New Leaders In Your Church

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:00:00 GMT

Growing churches are led by growing leaders. As you hope to see the vision move forward, you must develop leaders who can move at the pace of that vision. Why? Because the vision can't move itself. It has to be driven and carried by PEOPLE. Think of it this way. How many times have you gone to a conference and come home with so many takeaways and ideas? You're excited and looking forward to implementing changes. BUT, you soon discover that no one else is as excited as you are. Because they didn't share your experience, they don't share your enthusiasm. The best formula is for the entire team to share excitement and clarity around the vision. That's why you must develop a strategy to raise new leaders in the church. In this episode, Henry walks us through some insanely practical steps we can take to put a strategy in place. Head over and have a listen now and remember to keep the gears turning. Get the slideshow presentation here: www.simplesystems.cc/blog

EP. 11- How To Get The Most Out Of Your Team

Henry Tolbert of Simple Systems Consulting — Mon, 14 Mar 2022 05:00:00 GMT

Have you ever thought of how you can get the most out of your team now? You don’t get to choose everything. You don’t get to call and say, “Hey! I want to have the best team possible.” If all of us had a choice, then we probably have “the cream of the top” or “the best,” but we DON’T. I will not guarantee you that this will make your team perfect. However, in this episode, we will talk about some of the core things you got to wrestle through. We will also be discussing why you need to clarify your vision to your team. “Leadership is a promise to take people where they cannot go alone.” - Henry Tolbert This quote will always remind you that as a leader, you’ve got to embrace that you have to take care of your people as a leader. Of course, you don’t have to say this promise to your people verbally, but this is an unspoken promise wherein even if you didn’t tell them, they can still feel it and see it in your actions. I bet you don’t want your people to walk away, right? Don’t let them walk away, and let me help you get the most out of your team! Episode 11 of the Digital Discipleship Podcast entitled “How to Get the Most out of Your Team” is inspiring, and I know you are eager to learn more, so head over and listen to the blog right now!