<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The Side Aisle]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Side Aisle, a podcast for those who know the either/or framework in faith and politics just isn't working anymore.</p><p></p><p>The Side Aisle is a conversation between four friends — Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, and Lore Wilbert — about struggling to live in this contentious cultural moment with both grace and conviction in our families, our churches, our communities, online.  Where do you find belonging when your values have led you out of the mainstream and into the margins...a place we call the side aisle. </p>]]></description><link>https://www.thesideaisle.com/</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 14:30:58 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/TcjSWFZ8.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></author><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 16:38:09 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category><category><![CDATA[Christianity]]></category><itunes:author>Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Welcome to the Side Aisle, a podcast for those who know the either/or framework in faith and politics just isn&apos;t working anymore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Side Aisle is a conversation between four friends — Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, and Lore Wilbert — about struggling to live in this contentious cultural moment with both grace and conviction in our families, our churches, our communities, online.  Where do you find belonging when your values have led you out of the mainstream and into the margins...a place we call the side aisle. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert</itunes:name><itunes:email>sadiebillups@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="News"><itunes:category text="Politics"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Religion &amp; Spirituality"><itunes:category text="Christianity"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[SERIES FINALE: Where Do We Go From Here?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>To wrap up our limited series podcast, we bring together threads from across the conversation: family, politics, belonging, and the stories we tell about what makes a life “good.”</p><p></p><p>Drawing from our own experiences in evangelical spaces, we talk about how our formation shapes the way we show up in hard conversations today.</p><p></p><p>At the heart of this episode is an invitation to build a life that reflects your actual values, not just inherited or aspirational ones. </p><p></p><p>This season has been about learning how to live and relate in complicated times with integrity, curiosity, and care.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for listening from the Side Aisle. </p><p></p><p>A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.religiononthemind.com/" target="_blank"><b>Dan Koch</b></a> for the music and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://folkstales.art/about" target="_blank"><b>Nate Sahr</b></a> for audio engineering. </p><p></p><p>Submit your questions for us to discuss on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://thesideaisle.com" target="_blank"><b>thesideaisle.com</b></a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Order Sara's new book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Nervous Systems</i></b></a></p><p>Order Kendall’s newest book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Bake and Pray</i></b></a></p><p>Order Amanda’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Holy Unhappiness</i></b></a></p><p>Order Lore’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>The Understory</i></b></a></p><p>(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)</p><p>Find Lore on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lorewilbert.com/" target="_blank"><b>Sayable</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Amanda on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Provisions</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Sara on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sarabillups.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Bitter Scroll</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Kendall on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://edibletheology.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Edible Theology</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">82c8962b-dd43-487d-b9bf-daaeaa670bbc</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 04:27:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/3cb1e032035d4ea746d82646e7c6200b2d35fad2200914f9980ee697e61e9940/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI4MmM4OTYyYi1kZDQzLTQ4N2QtYjliZi1kYWFlYWE2NzBiYmMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlmMTg4YzYxNDM3NDVkZDZmMmUwNjlhL3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0yOV9fNi0yNy01MC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="34965229" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/82c8962b-dd43-487d-b9bf-daaeaa670bbc/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;To wrap up our limited series podcast, we bring together threads from across the conversation: family, politics, belonging, and the stories we tell about what makes a life “good.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Drawing from our own experiences in evangelical spaces, we talk about how our formation shapes the way we show up in hard conversations today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the heart of this episode is an invitation to build a life that reflects your actual values, not just inherited or aspirational ones. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This season has been about learning how to live and relate in complicated times with integrity, curiosity, and care.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for listening from the Side Aisle. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.religiononthemind.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dan Koch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for the music and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://folkstales.art/about&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nate Sahr&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for audio engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Submit your questions for us to discuss on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://thesideaisle.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;thesideaisle.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Sara&apos;s new book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nervous Systems&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Kendall’s newest book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bake and Pray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Amanda’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Holy Unhappiness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Lore’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Understory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Lore on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://lorewilbert.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sayable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Amanda on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Provisions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Sara on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://sarabillups.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bitter Scroll&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Kendall on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://edibletheology.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edible Theology&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:12:51</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>SERIES FINALE: Where Do We Go From Here?</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 5: Vocation, Public Life & Social Media]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <i>The Side Aisle</i>, we reflect on what it means to live authentically in public, especially in a digital world that rewards oversharing. </p><p></p><p>Not everything meaningful is meant to be shared, and not every story is ready to be told. Instead of asking what will resonate most online, we consider a deeper question: <i>what is actually ours to share?</i></p><p></p><p>We think through how vulnerability can create real connection, and how easily it becomes performative when shaped by likes, attention, and immediate feedback.</p><p></p><p>We also connect this to vocation, understanding how our sense of calling should guide how we show up publicly.</p><p></p><p>Plus, listener questions. </p><p></p><p>A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.religiononthemind.com/" target="_blank"><b>Dan Koch</b></a> for the music and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://folkstales.art/about" target="_blank"><b>Nate Sahr</b></a> for audio engineering. </p><p></p><p>Submit your questions for us to discuss on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://thesideaisle.com" target="_blank"><b>thesideaisle.com</b></a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Order Sara's new book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Nervous Systems</i></b></a></p><p>Order Kendall’s newest book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Bake and Pray</i></b></a></p><p>Order Amanda’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Holy Unhappiness</i></b></a></p><p>Order Lore’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>The Understory</i></b></a></p><p>(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)</p><p>Find Lore on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lorewilbert.com/" target="_blank"><b>Sayable</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Amanda on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Provisions</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Sara on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sarabillups.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Bitter Scroll</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Kendall on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://edibletheology.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Edible Theology</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">48a77b4d-4b70-4507-a401-b5ba7f2bcf1a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 13:35:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/7310d50d8bc3740c1ee328b53a2fe6212f03d40571b72a7c5c52f9e91719a72a/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0OGE3N2I0ZC00YjcwLTQ1MDctYTQwMS1iNWJhN2YyYmNmMWEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlkZjk0M2IyMjllOTRkZjA0ZGQ5ZDkwL3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0xNV9fMTUtMzUtNTUubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="37753226" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/48a77b4d-4b70-4507-a401-b5ba7f2bcf1a/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode of &lt;i&gt;The Side Aisle&lt;/i&gt;, we reflect on what it means to live authentically in public, especially in a digital world that rewards oversharing. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not everything meaningful is meant to be shared, and not every story is ready to be told. Instead of asking what will resonate most online, we consider a deeper question: &lt;i&gt;what is actually ours to share?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We think through how vulnerability can create real connection, and how easily it becomes performative when shaped by likes, attention, and immediate feedback.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We also connect this to vocation, understanding how our sense of calling should guide how we show up publicly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus, listener questions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.religiononthemind.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dan Koch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for the music and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://folkstales.art/about&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nate Sahr&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for audio engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Submit your questions for us to discuss on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://thesideaisle.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;thesideaisle.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Sara&apos;s new book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nervous Systems&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Kendall’s newest book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bake and Pray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Amanda’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Holy Unhappiness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Lore’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Understory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Lore on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://lorewilbert.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sayable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Amanda on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Provisions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Sara on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://sarabillups.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bitter Scroll&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Kendall on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://edibletheology.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edible Theology&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:18:39</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 5: Vocation, Public Life &amp; Social Media</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 4: Faith Communities and Institutions]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>What does it look like to stay faithful inside institutions that sometimes disappoint us? When do you stay, and when do you go?</p><p></p><p>In this episode, hosted by Amanda, Lore, Sara, and Kendall get honest about their own church histories. including formative moments and the tension of engaging politically and spiritually in communities that don't always make it easy.</p><p></p><p>The group talks about what it actually takes to create space where people with genuinely different views can stay in the room together and stay curious.</p><p></p><p>If you've ever felt the friction of faith and politics colliding inside a community you love, this one is for you. Plus, listener questions. </p><p></p><p>A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.religiononthemind.com/" target="_blank"><b>Dan Koch</b></a> for the music and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://folkstales.art/about" target="_blank"><b>Nate Sahr</b></a> for audio engineering. </p><p></p><p>Submit your questions for us to discuss on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://thesideaisle.com" target="_blank"><b>thesideaisle.com</b></a></p><p></p><p><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.womenofwelcome.com/stories/how-start-immigration-conversation-church" target="_blank"><b>How to Start a Conversation at Church About Immigration</b></a> (Women of Welcome)</p><p></p><p>Order Sara's new book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Nervous Systems</i></b></a></p><p>Order Kendall’s newest book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Bake and Pray</i></b></a></p><p>Order Amanda’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Holy Unhappiness</i></b></a></p><p>Order Lore’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>The Understory</i></b></a></p><p>(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)</p><p>Find Lore on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lorewilbert.com/" target="_blank"><b>Sayable</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Amanda on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Provisions</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Sara on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sarabillups.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Bitter Scroll</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Kendall on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://edibletheology.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Edible Theology</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">1cc3f1da-422f-42d2-8294-7af0e794ed8a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 00:15:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/834b4b351bf999877b1235c9078a850f4ff55dde9955ced081d8c7e4822266fa/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxY2MzZjFkYS00MjJmLTQyZDItODI5NC03YWYwZTc5NGVkOGEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjlkNmVmZmJiM2UyMzExNjhjNGI0ZWVhL3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC05X18yLTE2LTU5Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="45760906" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/1cc3f1da-422f-42d2-8294-7af0e794ed8a/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;What does it look like to stay faithful inside institutions that sometimes disappoint us? When do you stay, and when do you go?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, hosted by Amanda, Lore, Sara, and Kendall get honest about their own church histories. including formative moments and the tension of engaging politically and spiritually in communities that don&apos;t always make it easy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The group talks about what it actually takes to create space where people with genuinely different views can stay in the room together and stay curious.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you&apos;ve ever felt the friction of faith and politics colliding inside a community you love, this one is for you. Plus, listener questions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.religiononthemind.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dan Koch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for the music and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://folkstales.art/about&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nate Sahr&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for audio engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Submit your questions for us to discuss on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://thesideaisle.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;thesideaisle.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.womenofwelcome.com/stories/how-start-immigration-conversation-church&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;How to Start a Conversation at Church About Immigration&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Women of Welcome)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Sara&apos;s new book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nervous Systems&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Kendall’s newest book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bake and Pray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Amanda’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Holy Unhappiness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Lore’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Understory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Lore on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://lorewilbert.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sayable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Amanda on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Provisions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Sara on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://sarabillups.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bitter Scroll&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Kendall on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://edibletheology.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edible Theology&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:35:20</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep 4: Faith Communities and Institutions</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 3: The Good Life...What Are We Actually Chasing?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode hosted by Kendall, we talk about The Good Life, and what that phrase even means in a world overloaded with wellness for sale, political and religious division, and competing ideals around family. </p><p></p><p>We chat about how social media has become one of the most powerful forces shaping our definitions of fulfillment, often presenting polished versions of life that may or may not reflect reality. </p><p></p><p>What values are we actually absorbing, and are they genuinely serving us? To explore that, we unpack two cultural phenomena shaping these conversations right now, the tradwife movement, which celebrates a return to traditional domesticity, and the manosphere, online male communities grappling with shifting gender dynamics, often in divisive ways. </p><p></p><p>Though they seem like opposites, both are rooted in a longing for traditional values and reflect our broader cultural tension. We get into the nuance and contradictions, as we think it through together. Hope you'll join us. </p><p></p><p>Plus, listener questions. </p><p></p><p>A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.religiononthemind.com/" target="_blank"><b>Dan Koch</b></a> for the music and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://folkstales.art/about" target="_blank"><b>Nate Sahr</b></a> for audio engineering. </p><p></p><p>Submit your questions for us to discuss on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://thesideaisle.com" target="_blank"><b>thesideaisle.com</b></a></p><p></p><p>Order Sara's new book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Nervous Systems</i></b></a></p><p>Order Kendall’s newest book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Bake and Pray</i></b></a></p><p>Order Amanda’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>Holy Unhappiness</i></b></a></p><p>Order Lore’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><b><i>The Understory</i></b></a></p><p>(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)</p><p>Find Lore on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lorewilbert.com/" target="_blank"><b>Sayable</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Amanda on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Provisions</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Sara on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sarabillups.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Bitter Scroll</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p><p>Find Kendall on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://edibletheology.substack.com/" target="_blank"><b>Edible Theology</b></a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/" target="_blank"><b>Instagram</b></a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9f83964b-8318-4308-8d17-29af200a3033</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 04:55:50 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e50f6c71611ed6871cab7e4b84a843beaaef684bde782fd0cd0a2fa50a7495ca/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5ZjgzOTY0Yi04MzE4LTQzMDgtOGQxNy0yOWFmMjAwYTMwMzMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljY2E1ODdlNzA2MGZiNzc3ZDZhZDJlL3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0xX182LTU2LTM5Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="40289193" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/9f83964b-8318-4308-8d17-29af200a3033/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode hosted by Kendall, we talk about The Good Life, and what that phrase even means in a world overloaded with wellness for sale, political and religious division, and competing ideals around family. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We chat about how social media has become one of the most powerful forces shaping our definitions of fulfillment, often presenting polished versions of life that may or may not reflect reality. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What values are we actually absorbing, and are they genuinely serving us? To explore that, we unpack two cultural phenomena shaping these conversations right now, the tradwife movement, which celebrates a return to traditional domesticity, and the manosphere, online male communities grappling with shifting gender dynamics, often in divisive ways. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Though they seem like opposites, both are rooted in a longing for traditional values and reflect our broader cultural tension. We get into the nuance and contradictions, as we think it through together. Hope you&apos;ll join us. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus, listener questions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.religiononthemind.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Dan Koch&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for the music and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://folkstales.art/about&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nate Sahr&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; for audio engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Submit your questions for us to discuss on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://thesideaisle.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;thesideaisle.com&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Sara&apos;s new book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nervous Systems&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Kendall’s newest book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bake and Pray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Amanda’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Holy Unhappiness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Lore’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Understory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Lore on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://lorewilbert.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sayable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Amanda on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Provisions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Sara on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://sarabillups.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bitter Scroll&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Kendall on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://edibletheology.substack.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edible Theology&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Instagram&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:23:56</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep 3: The Good Life...What Are We Actually Chasing?</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 2: Engaging Family Across the Divide]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode hosted by Sara, we delve into complicated territory: engaging family across political differences. We explore how family shapes our political worldview in early years, what it looks like to raise aware and thoughtful kids, and offer ideas for reaching across differences in parent-child relationships, in marriage, and more.</p><p></p><p>There's the tension a lot of us are sitting with right now: Do you cut off connection for the sake of your own wellbeing? Or do you stay connected no matter what? We talk about what it could look like to stay in relationship, when it's safe to, while maintaining healthy boundaries. </p><p></p><p>This is a conversation about asking better questions and finding that even when political alignment is off the table, there might be something worth building across the divide. </p><p></p><p>Plus, listener questions. </p><p></p><p>*
</p><p>A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.religiononthemind.com/" target="_blank">Dan Koch</a> for the music and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://folkstales.art/about" target="_blank">Nate Sahr</a> for audio engineering. </p><p><br /></p><p>Submit your questions for us to discuss on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://thesideaisle.com" target="_blank">thesideaisle.com</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Order Sara's new book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>Nervous Systems</i></a></p><p>Order Kendall’s newest book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>Bake and Pray</i></a></p><p>Order Amanda’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>Holy Unhappiness</i></a></p><p>Order Lore’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>The Understory</i></a></p><p>(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)<br /></p><p>Find Lore on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lorewilbert.com" target="_blank">Sayable</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p><p>Find Amanda on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com" target="_blank">Provisions</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p><p>Find Sara on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sarabillups.substack.com" target="_blank">Bitter Scroll</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p><p>Find Kendall on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://edibletheology.substack.com" target="_blank">Edible Theology</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">fce994b0-289a-4b6f-88a4-b098ad35484d</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 03:09:51 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e29fdb49f6f83f5be9bc02e28448bedb4a695a6fb37ef7531d16f1fd2d0d9687/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJmY2U5OTRiMC0yODlhLTRiNmYtODhhNC1iMDk4YWQzNTQ4NGQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljMzUyMjdjNTc3M2Q3NjFhMzc0ZjI2L3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0yNV9fNC0xMC0zMS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="35673252" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/fce994b0-289a-4b6f-88a4-b098ad35484d/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In this episode hosted by Sara, we delve into complicated territory: engaging family across political differences. We explore how family shapes our political worldview in early years, what it looks like to raise aware and thoughtful kids, and offer ideas for reaching across differences in parent-child relationships, in marriage, and more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There&apos;s the tension a lot of us are sitting with right now: Do you cut off connection for the sake of your own wellbeing? Or do you stay connected no matter what? We talk about what it could look like to stay in relationship, when it&apos;s safe to, while maintaining healthy boundaries. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is a conversation about asking better questions and finding that even when political alignment is off the table, there might be something worth building across the divide. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus, listener questions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A special thanks to all of our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. Thanks, too, to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.religiononthemind.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dan Koch&lt;/a&gt; for the music and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://folkstales.art/about&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Nate Sahr&lt;/a&gt; for audio engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Submit your questions for us to discuss on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://thesideaisle.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;thesideaisle.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Sara&apos;s new book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nervous Systems&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Kendall’s newest book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bake and Pray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Amanda’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Holy Unhappiness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Order Lore’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Understory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Lore on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://lorewilbert.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Sayable&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Amanda on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Provisions&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Sara on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://sarabillups.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Bitter Scroll&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Find Kendall on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://edibletheology.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Edible Theology&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>01:14:19</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep 2: Engaging Family Across the Divide</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 1: Introducing The Side Aisle]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>An introduction to <i>The Side Aisle, </i>in which we talk about why we wanted to do this and what feels difficult about these kinds of conversations. Also, why we don’t disparage the idea of "the third way", but what it means to us and why it’s important to clarify our terms. </p><p></p><p>Books mentioned:</p><p>Parker Palmer, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-hidden-wholeness-the-journey-toward-an-undivided-life-20th-anniversary-edition-parker-j-palmer/21f5820f9e314c35?ean=9781394235070&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>A Hidden Wholeness</i></a>, Chapter Ten, A Third Way</p><p></p><p>Submit your questions for us to discuss on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://thesideaisle.com" target="_blank">thesideaisle.com</a><br /></p><ul><li>Order Sara's new book<i> </i><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>Nervous Systems</i></a></li><li>Order Kendall’s latest book <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>Bake and Pray</i></a></li><li>Order Amanda’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>Holy Unhappiness</i></a></li><li>Order Lore’s latest book, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;next=t" target="_blank"><i>The Understory</i></a></li></ul><p>(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)</p><p></p><ul><li>Find Lore on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://lorewilbert.com" target="_blank">Sayable</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li>Find Amanda on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com" target="_blank">Provisions</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li>Find Sara on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sarabillups.substack.com" target="_blank">Bitter Scroll</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li>Find Kendall on <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://edibletheology.substack.com" target="_blank">Edible Theology</a> and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><p><br />A special thanks to our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. </p><p></p><p>Thanks, too, to <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://dankoch.net/" target="_blank">Dan Koch</a> for the music and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://folkstales.art/" target="_blank">Nate Sahr</a> for audio engineering. </p><p></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">15b6fa08-382d-4132-b7ca-36cf9fea1b42</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 02:14:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/53b23370afbda966b3f3891887b10690c6fc7b6133ffcc1dd7219f4fa1808d15/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIxNWI2ZmEwOC0zODJkLTQxMzItYjdjYS0zNmNmOWZlYTFiNDIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliYTBhOTFjOWI0N2UyY2QyYzVkNWY3L3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0xOF9fMy0xNC00MS5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="26553173" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/15b6fa08-382d-4132-b7ca-36cf9fea1b42/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;An introduction to &lt;i&gt;The Side Aisle, &lt;/i&gt;in which we talk about why we wanted to do this and what feels difficult about these kinds of conversations. Also, why we don’t disparage the idea of &quot;the third way&quot;, but what it means to us and why it’s important to clarify our terms. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Books mentioned:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Parker Palmer, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-hidden-wholeness-the-journey-toward-an-undivided-life-20th-anniversary-edition-parker-j-palmer/21f5820f9e314c35?ean=9781394235070&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;A Hidden Wholeness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, Chapter Ten, A Third Way&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Submit your questions for us to discuss on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://thesideaisle.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;thesideaisle.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Order Sara&apos;s new book&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/nervous-systems-spiritual-practices-to-calm-anxiety-in-your-body-the-church-and-politics-sara-billups/71dc1d2ea0d0fa13?ean=9781540904218&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nervous Systems&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Order Kendall’s latest book &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/bake-pray-liturgies-and-recipes-for-baking-bread-as-a-spiritual-practice-kendall-vanderslice/650bd4e1d4cec081?ean=9781496461384&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bake and Pray&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Order Amanda’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/holy-unhappiness-god-goodness-and-the-myth-of-the-blessed-life-amanda-held-opelt/fa6bd4be84e550a2?ean=9781546001935&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Holy Unhappiness&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Order Lore’s latest book, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-understory-an-invitation-to-rootedness-and-resilience-from-the-forest-floor-lore-ferguson-wilbert/4c40275ccf6a46cf?ean=9781587435706&amp;amp;next=t&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Understory&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;(All books linked to support independent bookshop, Nooks)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Find Lore on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://lorewilbert.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Sayable&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/lorewilbert/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Find Amanda on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://amandaheldopelt.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Provisions&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/amandaheldopelt/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Find Sara on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://sarabillups.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Bitter Scroll&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/sara.billups/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Find Kendall on &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://edibletheology.substack.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Edible Theology&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.instagram.com/knvslice/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A special thanks to our paid subscribers on Substack for making it possible for us to have these kinds of conversations. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks, too, to &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://dankoch.net/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dan Koch&lt;/a&gt; for the music and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://folkstales.art/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Nate Sahr&lt;/a&gt; for audio engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:55:19</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/logos/449c2207-fb20-4474-89e4-d68b9a97350e.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 1: Introducing The Side Aisle</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[TRAILER: Welcome to The Side Aisle ]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to The Side Aisle, a podcast for those who know the either/or framework in faith and politics...just isn't working anymore.</p><p></p><p>The Side Aisle is a conversation between four friends — Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, and Lore Wilbert — about struggling to live in this contentious cultural moment with both grace and conviction in our families, our churches, our communities, and online.  Where do you find belonging when your values have led you out of the mainstream and into the margins...a place we call the side aisle. <br /></p><p>The first episode in this limited series drops Wednesday, March 18. Listen anywhere you get your podcasts.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3a33ce4f-b3b1-4abc-9e02-7d36f487c2ed</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, Lore Wilbert]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 16:40:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b931ac98306082530eaa92c678d3614043e3dd68f6b0d5010c81f8c74a504046/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzYTMzY2U0Zi1iM2IxLTRhYmMtOWUwMi03ZDM2ZjQ4N2MyZWQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiJmYWRlYWRkZC0yMWQ5LTRiM2YtYjRmNC1kZTQ3ZWMyNjczODQiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2NmQxZjI3YjgyNDY5NTZhOGYzOWNhNDYiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjliMTlhZmQ3NDc1NGNjYzJhYWRiNzI4L3NhcmEtYmlsbHVwc3Mtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0xMV9fMTctNDAtMjkubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="500106" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/fadeaddd-21d9-4b3f-b4f4-de47ec267384/episodes/3a33ce4f-b3b1-4abc-9e02-7d36f487c2ed/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Welcome to The Side Aisle, a podcast for those who know the either/or framework in faith and politics...just isn&apos;t working anymore.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Side Aisle is a conversation between four friends — Sara Billups, Amanda Held Opelt, Kendall Vanderslice, and Lore Wilbert — about struggling to live in this contentious cultural moment with both grace and conviction in our families, our churches, our communities, and online.  Where do you find belonging when your values have led you out of the mainstream and into the margins...a place we call the side aisle. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The first episode in this limited series drops Wednesday, March 18. 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