In this powerful conversation, Sabine sits down with Joseph Cope, known as The Empathy Guy, to unpack the difference between empathy as a feeling and empathy as a skill. Together, they explore why so many accomplished women mistake over-giving for connection, and how redefining empathy can transform the way you show up in your relationships.

Joseph reframes empathy not as softness, but as a fierce leadership skill — one that allows you to create space for others without abandoning yourself. This conversation bridges directly into the heart of Pick Joy: choosing alignment over obligation and clarity over guilt.

Inside this episode, we explore:

• The difference between empathy and sympathy (and why it matters)
• Why highly empathetic people struggle with boundaries
• How to stop absorbing everyone else’s emotions
• The framework for creating connection without losing yourself

If you’ve spent years being the strong one, the dependable one, the emotionally attuned one — this episode will feel like a release.

Because picking joy doesn’t mean caring less.
It means caring with intention.

And it starts with remembering this:
You are not responsible for other people’s emotions.

Host:
Sabine Schoepke – Pick Joy
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sabineschoepke

Guest:
Joseph Cope – The Empathy Guy
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/empathyguy/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.empathy.guy
Website: https://EmpathyGuy.com

Empathy Quotient Test: https://psychology-tools.com/test/empathy-quotient

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For more information about the CARGO model, Joseph will be releasing his book, Fierce Empathy, this summer! Contact Joseph to be added to the pre-release list