<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[The INCOSE Podcast]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Systems engineering is the discipline that turns abstract ideas into functional reality. From the smallest components to the most complex global infrastructures, we explore the frameworks that solve our most daunting challenges.  </p><p>On The INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with the pioneers who are architecting the future to discuss the technical breakthroughs shaping our world—and the personal journeys that brought them to the table. </p>]]></description><link>www.incose.org</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 15:31:47 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/KsQ1w4Gn.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></author><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 21:45:11 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Samantha Bernal]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category><category><![CDATA[Education]]></category><itunes:author>Samantha Bernal</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Systems engineering is the discipline that turns abstract ideas into functional reality. From the smallest components to the most complex global infrastructures, we explore the frameworks that solve our most daunting challenges.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On The INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with the pioneers who are architecting the future to discuss the technical breakthroughs shaping our world—and the personal journeys that brought them to the table. &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Samantha Bernal</itunes:name><itunes:email>samantha.bernal@incose.net</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Technology"/><itunes:category text="Education"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 9: Systems, Leadership, and Leading with Speed with Alan Willett]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p> New INCOSE Podcast episode alert! </p><p>In the latest installment of the official INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with expert consultant, speaker, and award-winning author Alan Willett (*Leading the Unleadable*, *Lead with Speed*). </p><p>From his early days writing code on ticker tape to leading complex systems engineering initiatives at Xerox and Carnegie Mellon’s Software Engineering Institute, Alan shares profound lessons on engineering high-performing organizations. </p><p>Tune in to discover: </p><p>✅Why culture dictates behavior and why "hurrying up to test" is a flawed strategy </p><p>✅The power of asking for credible commitments instead of just plans </p><p>✅How technical debt silently drains organizational speed and how to crush it </p><p>✅Practical frameworks for managing difficult team dynamics with empathy </p><p>🎧 Listen to the full episode on your favorite streaming platform or at <a href="https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow">https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/</a> </p><p> </p><p>#INCOSE #SystemsEngineering #TechLeadership #EngineeringManagement #INCOSEPodcast </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bc7f013b-f622-4e23-beec-700c2e3ed99a</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 16:26:23 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/6d973492d57776a011e7039dbf5a27973f497f5e2e55135e0dab3b64d0e19889/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiYzdmMDEzYi1mNjIyLTRlMjMtYmVlYy03MDBjMmUzZWQ5OWEiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFlMjBjYjVlNzc2ZDgxZDVhOGE4ODQ3L3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLTIwMjYtMTAtMjhfXzE2LTI2LTIzLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="75323080" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/bc7f013b-f622-4e23-beec-700c2e3ed99a/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt; New INCOSE Podcast episode alert! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the latest installment of the official INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with expert consultant, speaker, and award-winning author Alan Willett (*Leading the Unleadable*, *Lead with Speed*). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From his early days writing code on ticker tape to leading complex systems engineering initiatives at Xerox and Carnegie Mellon’s Software Engineering Institute, Alan shares profound lessons on engineering high-performing organizations. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tune in to discover: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Why culture dictates behavior and why &quot;hurrying up to test&quot; is a flawed strategy &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅The power of asking for credible commitments instead of just plans &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅How technical debt silently drains organizational speed and how to crush it &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Practical frameworks for managing difficult team dynamics with empathy &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 Listen to the full episode on your favorite streaming platform or at &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#INCOSE #SystemsEngineering #TechLeadership #EngineeringManagement #INCOSEPodcast &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:39:14</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 9: Systems, Leadership, and Leading with Speed with Alan Willett</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 8: Bryan Watson - Bio-Inspired Systems & $99 Student Access for IS 2027!]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>How can Amazon River turtle eggs, ant colony behavior, and submarine operations help us design more resilient systems?  </p><p> </p><p>In the latest episode of the INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Bryan Watson, Assistant Professor of Systems Engineering at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, founder of the Biologically Inspired Design-for-Resilience (BID4R) Lab, and Chair of the INCOSE Technical Program Committee.  </p><p> </p><p>Key takeaways from their conversation include: </p><p>✅Lessons from the Nuclear Navy: How Dr. Watson's eight years as a submarine officer shaped his understanding of socio-technical resilience and real-world complex systems.  </p><p>✅Bio-Inspired Resilience: How functional abstraction allows us to translate natural survival behaviors—like turtle egg communication and ant task reallocation—into robust algorithms for drone swarms and supply chains.  </p><p>✅IS 2027 Preview: Insights into technical programming for Washington, D.C., plus details on the new $99 Student Access-Only Registration Tier (lottery opening this fall!).  </p><p> </p><p>Whether you’re interested in autonomous swarms, system-of-systems architecture, or bridging academic research with industry practice, this episode is packed with practical insights.  </p><p> </p><p>🎧 Listen and follow wherever you get your favorite podcasts!  </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d9898298-58b0-4fa7-b4ce-96c84bc9e5e5</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2026 19:48:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/4442f5764eb9cbee9f45a1021c0c4fcf88d011ef7feb4388a148405db451182e/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJkOTg5ODI5OC01OGIwLTRmYTctYjRjZS05NmM4NGJjOWU1ZTUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFiOTczMGFjYWZmMTllNzQ4ODA4ZGJiL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLTIwMjYtOS0yN19fMTktNDgtMjcubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="70199736" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/d9898298-58b0-4fa7-b4ce-96c84bc9e5e5/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;How can Amazon River turtle eggs, ant colony behavior, and submarine operations help us design more resilient systems?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the latest episode of the INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Bryan Watson, Assistant Professor of Systems Engineering at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, founder of the Biologically Inspired Design-for-Resilience (BID4R) Lab, and Chair of the INCOSE Technical Program Committee.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Key takeaways from their conversation include: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Lessons from the Nuclear Navy: How Dr. Watson&apos;s eight years as a submarine officer shaped his understanding of socio-technical resilience and real-world complex systems.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Bio-Inspired Resilience: How functional abstraction allows us to translate natural survival behaviors—like turtle egg communication and ant task reallocation—into robust algorithms for drone swarms and supply chains.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅IS 2027 Preview: Insights into technical programming for Washington, D.C., plus details on the new $99 Student Access-Only Registration Tier (lottery opening this fall!).  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether you’re interested in autonomous swarms, system-of-systems architecture, or bridging academic research with industry practice, this episode is packed with practical insights.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 Listen and follow wherever you get your favorite podcasts!  &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:36:34</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 8: Bryan Watson - Bio-Inspired Systems &amp; $99 Student Access for IS 2027!</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 7: Chapter Impact & Leadership with Tony Lindeman ]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>“I like to use the word tinker. That's really what we’ve got to replace failure with—tinkering—because we have to instill curiosity and imagination."   </p><p> </p><p>In our latest episode, we sit down with Tony Lindeman, ESEP-Acq, PMP—former Marine Corps helicopter pilot, NASA/DoD systems engineering veteran, and Chair of the INCOSE Chapter Advisory Committee (CAC).  </p><p> </p><p>In this wide-ranging conversation, Tony breaks down:  </p><p>🔹 How the CAC ensures the voices of 70+ chapters reach the Board of Directors  </p><p>🔹 Strategies for chapter growth and leadership succession  </p><p>🔹 Why investing in students and early-career pros builds the future of systems engineering  </p><p> </p><p>🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts or on the INCOSE Podcast webpage.  <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/" target="_blank">https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/</a></p><p> </p><p>#INCOSE #INCOSEPodcast #AssociationManagement #SystemsEngineering</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">b3ad4bb6-ceff-449f-a59e-43727875118c</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2026 19:25:55 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/4a31ec379ad4b1a7f6e7a1003a85c8187cfffec69cba5e0a58ed39efb8685b8f/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiM2FkNGJiNi1jZWZmLTQ0OWYtYTU5ZS00MzcyNzg3NTExOGMiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE5MWRmY2ZiZDg1ZTc5NDcwZWRhYzNhL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtOC0yOF9fMjEtMjEtNTAubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="66700582" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/b3ad4bb6-ceff-449f-a59e-43727875118c/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;“I like to use the word tinker. That&apos;s really what we’ve got to replace failure with—tinkering—because we have to instill curiosity and imagination.&quot;   &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In our latest episode, we sit down with Tony Lindeman, ESEP-Acq, PMP—former Marine Corps helicopter pilot, NASA/DoD systems engineering veteran, and Chair of the INCOSE Chapter Advisory Committee (CAC).  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this wide-ranging conversation, Tony breaks down:  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔹 How the CAC ensures the voices of 70+ chapters reach the Board of Directors  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔹 Strategies for chapter growth and leadership succession  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🔹 Why investing in students and early-career pros builds the future of systems engineering  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts or on the INCOSE Podcast webpage.  &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#INCOSE #INCOSEPodcast #AssociationManagement #SystemsEngineering&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:34:44</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 7: Chapter Impact &amp; Leadership with Tony Lindeman </itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 6: Creating a Healthier Relationship with Technology with Amber Case]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is your technology supporting your life, or just interrupting it?<b> 🤔</b> </p><p> </p><p>In our latest episode of the INCOSE Podcast, we’re tackling a question that affects every one of us: How can we cultivate a healthier relationship with technology when everything is constantly competing for our attention?  </p><p> </p><p>We are joined by Amber Case, cyborg anthropologist, author, and founder of the Calm Tech Institute. Amber brings a fascinating perspective on why so much of today’s technology feels exhausting and how we can shift toward a design philosophy that respects the human experience.  </p><p> </p><p>In this episode, we explore: </p><p>✅The rise of Calm Tech: Why technology should be designed to be intuitive and invisible when in use, acting as a pass-through tool rather than a constant interruption.  </p><p>✅The "Sensory Deprivation" of current design: A look at why we feel more depleted using flat-screen interfaces compared to physical tools that engage our senses and our back brain.  </p><p>✅Certification for the future: Amber shares insights into the Calm Tech Institute’s work in certifying products that are imaginative, durable, and delightful, prioritizing long-term utility over short-term engagement.  </p><p> </p><p>If you’re looking to reclaim a little more of your attention, this conversation offers actionable insights into designing a more human-centered future.  </p><p> </p><p>🎧 Listen to the full episode on the INCOSE website or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. </p><p> </p><p>#INCOSE #SystemsEngineering #CalmTech #HumanCenteredDesign #INCOSEPodcast #TechnologyEthics</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">dd2ffb7a-b87d-4673-b05b-bca9b5bbec75</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 22:41:35 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/fd22a2d5006692858fe0200110d756b639fd3c4e0fad5a9e69e433d27ca62282/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJkZDJmZmI3YS1iODdkLTQ2NzMtYjA1Yi1iY2E5YjViYmVjNzUiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE2OTJmYWY3YmMxODVhMDE2ZjMyOTBiL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNy0yOV9fMC0zOS00My5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="67955295" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/dd2ffb7a-b87d-4673-b05b-bca9b5bbec75/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Is your technology supporting your life, or just interrupting it?&lt;b&gt; 🤔&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In our latest episode of the INCOSE Podcast, we’re tackling a question that affects every one of us: How can we cultivate a healthier relationship with technology when everything is constantly competing for our attention?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are joined by Amber Case, cyborg anthropologist, author, and founder of the Calm Tech Institute. Amber brings a fascinating perspective on why so much of today’s technology feels exhausting and how we can shift toward a design philosophy that respects the human experience.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we explore: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅The rise of Calm Tech: Why technology should be designed to be intuitive and invisible when in use, acting as a pass-through tool rather than a constant interruption.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅The &quot;Sensory Deprivation&quot; of current design: A look at why we feel more depleted using flat-screen interfaces compared to physical tools that engage our senses and our back brain.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Certification for the future: Amber shares insights into the Calm Tech Institute’s work in certifying products that are imaginative, durable, and delightful, prioritizing long-term utility over short-term engagement.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re looking to reclaim a little more of your attention, this conversation offers actionable insights into designing a more human-centered future.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 Listen to the full episode on the INCOSE website or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#INCOSE #SystemsEngineering #CalmTech #HumanCenteredDesign #INCOSEPodcast #TechnologyEthics&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:35:24</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep 6: Creating a Healthier Relationship with Technology with Amber Case</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[
Ep 5: Rethinking Complexity with Dr. Laura Cabrera]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>New Episode Alert! 🎧 Rethinking Complexity with Dr. Laura Cabrera </p><p> </p><p>Whether you are designing complex architectures or just trying to get your kids to take out the trash, you are navigating a "wicked problem." But how aware are you of <i>how</i> you think?  </p><p> </p><p>In our latest podcast episode, INCOSE sits down with Cornell researcher and author Dr. Laura Cabrera to strip away the academic jargon and make systems thinking practical for leaders and engineers alike.  </p><p> </p><p>Key highlights from the episode include: </p><p><b>💡The 34,000-Person Study:</b> Why human problem-solving teams consistently struggle with seeing relationships and taking alternative perspectives.  </p><p><b>💡The DSRP Framework:</b> How mastering Distinctions, Systems, Relationships, and Perspectives gives you a diagnostic toolkit for complex projects.  </p><p><b>💡Ditching the "Root Cause" Myth:</b> A brilliant 10-hole leaking roof analogy that proves why complex webs of causality require multi-pronged solutions, not linear thinking.  </p><p> </p><p>Before you operationalize your next big project, tune in to discover how building a better mental model can bring clarity to your team and get your work closer to reality.  </p><p> </p><p>👉 Listen now on the INCOSE website and your favorite podcast platform! <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/" target="_blank">https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/</a> </p><p> </p><p>#SystemsEngineering #SystemsThinking #INCOSEPodcast #INCOSE</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">04cedc97-e6e5-48de-96ea-b642c68093ff</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 03:12:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/6d5960f6ca5ed7bb2380c303b0063d683cb35628aefb2acfd881297f8e0d1053/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwNGNlZGM5Ny1lNmU1LTQ4ZGUtOTZlYS1iNjQyYzY4MDkzZmYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE0MzMxMDY1Yjc3NjY0NTg1M2FmZTI2L3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNi0zMF9fNC01OS0xOC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="67651021" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/04cedc97-e6e5-48de-96ea-b642c68093ff/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;New Episode Alert! 🎧 Rethinking Complexity with Dr. Laura Cabrera &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether you are designing complex architectures or just trying to get your kids to take out the trash, you are navigating a &quot;wicked problem.&quot; But how aware are you of &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; you think?  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In our latest podcast episode, INCOSE sits down with Cornell researcher and author Dr. Laura Cabrera to strip away the academic jargon and make systems thinking practical for leaders and engineers alike.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Key highlights from the episode include: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;💡The 34,000-Person Study:&lt;/b&gt; Why human problem-solving teams consistently struggle with seeing relationships and taking alternative perspectives.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;💡The DSRP Framework:&lt;/b&gt; How mastering Distinctions, Systems, Relationships, and Perspectives gives you a diagnostic toolkit for complex projects.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;💡Ditching the &quot;Root Cause&quot; Myth:&lt;/b&gt; A brilliant 10-hole leaking roof analogy that proves why complex webs of causality require multi-pronged solutions, not linear thinking.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Before you operationalize your next big project, tune in to discover how building a better mental model can bring clarity to your team and get your work closer to reality.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;👉 Listen now on the INCOSE website and your favorite podcast platform! &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#SystemsEngineering #SystemsThinking #INCOSEPodcast #INCOSE&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:35:14</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>
Ep 5: Rethinking Complexity with Dr. Laura Cabrera</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 4: Julia Mullaney - The Power of Engineering Quality, Data, and Facing Reality]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>In our latest episode, we sit down with Julia Mullaney, co-founder of Exceptional Difference, award-winning engineer, and leadership expert. </p><p> </p><p>From her standout career at IBM to working alongside the legendary Watts Humphrey at the Software Engineering Institute, Julia brings an incredible, data-backed perspective on bridging the gap between engineering theory and daily project realities. </p><p> </p><p>In this candid conversation, we talk about:  </p><p>👉 The "Invisible" Savings of Quality: Why investing in early design and code reviews actually saves hundreds of hours—flipping the script on the misconception that quality is expensive.  </p><p>👉 Managing Schedule Pressure: How technical leaders can find the courage to face reality, establish realistic commitments, and protect engineering standards.  </p><p>👉 Coaching vs. Rescuing: Why the best mentors focus on building long-term capability within their teams rather than stepping in to "fix" every problem.  </p><p>👉 The AI Boom: Her take on the rapid acceleration of AI, and why architectural wisdom and design thinking matter now more than ever. </p><p> </p><p>Julia also shares invaluable advice for the next generation of engineers—and women entering technical leadership roles—on leading with value, relying on data as your protector, and embracing discomfort to fuel growth. </p><p> </p><p>🎧 Listen to the full conversation now on the INCOSE website or your favorite podcast platform! <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/" target="_blank">https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/</a> </p><p> </p><p>#SystemsEngineering #SoftwareEngineering #TechnicalLeadership #WomenInSTEM #INCOSEPodcast #INCOSE </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">a36ac27a-d285-48b3-9b91-26a1edf5b4e2</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 18:58:16 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/2c8a85c59fe4e57157665032a4be73597d11c9a7d6b6a71ad003222be195c441/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhMzZhYzI3YS1kMjg1LTQ4YjMtOWI5MS0yNmExZWRmNWI0ZTIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExNWViYzQ5NTVjMDU5YmQyOTI2ZDAxL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNS0yNl9fMjAtNTEtNDgubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="61909934" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/a36ac27a-d285-48b3-9b91-26a1edf5b4e2/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;In our latest episode, we sit down with Julia Mullaney, co-founder of Exceptional Difference, award-winning engineer, and leadership expert. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From her standout career at IBM to working alongside the legendary Watts Humphrey at the Software Engineering Institute, Julia brings an incredible, data-backed perspective on bridging the gap between engineering theory and daily project realities. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this candid conversation, we talk about:  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;👉 The &quot;Invisible&quot; Savings of Quality: Why investing in early design and code reviews actually saves hundreds of hours—flipping the script on the misconception that quality is expensive.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;👉 Managing Schedule Pressure: How technical leaders can find the courage to face reality, establish realistic commitments, and protect engineering standards.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;👉 Coaching vs. Rescuing: Why the best mentors focus on building long-term capability within their teams rather than stepping in to &quot;fix&quot; every problem.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;👉 The AI Boom: Her take on the rapid acceleration of AI, and why architectural wisdom and design thinking matter now more than ever. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Julia also shares invaluable advice for the next generation of engineers—and women entering technical leadership roles—on leading with value, relying on data as your protector, and embracing discomfort to fuel growth. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🎧 Listen to the full conversation now on the INCOSE website or your favorite podcast platform! &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#SystemsEngineering #SoftwareEngineering #TechnicalLeadership #WomenInSTEM #INCOSEPodcast #INCOSE &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:32:15</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 4: Julia Mullaney - The Power of Engineering Quality, Data, and Facing Reality</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 3: David Schrunk - Fixing Laws:
 A Systems Approach]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Why do societal problems like poverty and crime persist, even when countries pass laws to solve them? </p><p> </p><p>We often think the legislative process—drafting a bill, debating it, and enacting it—is the ultimate solution. But David Schrunk, President of the Science of Laws Institute, argues that we have it backwards. In the latest INCOSE Podcast, David explores why the traditional lawmaking method used in many nations fails to define problems, measure outcomes, or ensure effectiveness. </p><p> </p><p>What if we treated legislation like any other complex system? From Japan’s "Agile Governance" framework to new policy-engineering initiatives in Mongolia, countries around the world are beginning to explore how we can apply systems engineering rigor to the "system of systems" that is modern government.  Learn more at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.scienceoflaws.org" target="_blank">www.scienceoflaws.org</a></p><p> </p><p>Listen to the full episode to hear how systems engineering can serve as a universal tool for better governance. 🎧</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3793aa23-bdfd-4c8f-a925-db37594f30d4</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 20:55:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/bfb3676c2446250bbb7054dc57e018e87c622d88b45a18de211ecd8e5f2d1e35/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIzNzkzYWEyMy1iZGZkLTRjOGYtYTkyNS1kYjM3NTk0ZjMwZDQiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjllZmNjNzAxNjQxOGM5YjU2OGFmMjgwL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtNC0yN19fMjItNTItMC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="73501614" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/3793aa23-bdfd-4c8f-a925-db37594f30d4/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Why do societal problems like poverty and crime persist, even when countries pass laws to solve them? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We often think the legislative process—drafting a bill, debating it, and enacting it—is the ultimate solution. But David Schrunk, President of the Science of Laws Institute, argues that we have it backwards. In the latest INCOSE Podcast, David explores why the traditional lawmaking method used in many nations fails to define problems, measure outcomes, or ensure effectiveness. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What if we treated legislation like any other complex system? From Japan’s &quot;Agile Governance&quot; framework to new policy-engineering initiatives in Mongolia, countries around the world are beginning to explore how we can apply systems engineering rigor to the &quot;system of systems&quot; that is modern government.  Learn more at &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.scienceoflaws.org&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;www.scienceoflaws.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Listen to the full episode to hear how systems engineering can serve as a universal tool for better governance. 🎧&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:38:17</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 3: David Schrunk - Fixing Laws:
 A Systems Approach</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 2: Jimmie McEver - Complexity, Cyber Risk, and Mission Success]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Are we designing systems, or are we truly <i>thinking</i> in systems? </p><p> </p><p>In the second episode of the INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with Dr. @Jimmie McEver, the Principal Scientist in the Cyber Operations Mission Area at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory.  </p><p> </p><p>With over 20 years of experience at the intersection of national security and cyber operations, Dr. McEver brings a unique "back door" perspective—rooted in physics and public policy—to the systems engineering community. </p><p> </p><p>Key Takeaways from the Conversation: </p><p> </p><p><b>✅</b>Mastering the art of zooming between high-level stakeholder needs and granular technical details. </p><p><b>✅</b>Shifting focus from technical vulnerabilities to ensuring operational success in contested environments. </p><p><b>✅</b>Why the next generation of engineers must move beyond rigid methods to embrace deep uncertainty and flexibility. </p><p><b>✅</b>How to manage systems that are no longer just complicated, but deeply intertwined with human behavior. </p><p> </p><p>Whether you are navigating AI-enabled systems or managing complex systems of systems, this episode offers a refreshing framework for building robustness in an unpredictable world. </p><p> </p><p>👉 Listen to the full episode here: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/" target="_blank"><b>https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/</b></a> </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">a1a47c8b-d47b-4c4a-8362-b1b117856348</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2026 02:37:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/eb334e6331f9817e0f8d5bb68cf5800727f595289b018187dddc1efdc52c2580/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJhMWE0N2M4Yi1kNDdiLTRjNGEtODM2Mi1iMWIxMTc4NTYzNDgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjljNDhiZjcyNWFkOTMwMGYyNzI2NmJhL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMy0yNl9fMi0yOS0yNy5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="59070319" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/episodes/a1a47c8b-d47b-4c4a-8362-b1b117856348/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Are we designing systems, or are we truly &lt;i&gt;thinking&lt;/i&gt; in systems? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the second episode of the INCOSE Podcast, we sit down with Dr. @Jimmie McEver, the Principal Scientist in the Cyber Operations Mission Area at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With over 20 years of experience at the intersection of national security and cyber operations, Dr. McEver brings a unique &quot;back door&quot; perspective—rooted in physics and public policy—to the systems engineering community. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Key Takeaways from the Conversation: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;✅&lt;/b&gt;Mastering the art of zooming between high-level stakeholder needs and granular technical details. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;✅&lt;/b&gt;Shifting focus from technical vulnerabilities to ensuring operational success in contested environments. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;✅&lt;/b&gt;Why the next generation of engineers must move beyond rigid methods to embrace deep uncertainty and flexibility. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;✅&lt;/b&gt;How to manage systems that are no longer just complicated, but deeply intertwined with human behavior. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whether you are navigating AI-enabled systems or managing complex systems of systems, this episode offers a refreshing framework for building robustness in an unpredictable world. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;👉 Listen to the full episode here: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;https://www.incose.org/resources-publications/member-communications/the-incose-podcast/&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:41:01</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:title>Ep 2: Jimmie McEver - Complexity, Cyber Risk, and Mission Success</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Ep 1: Michael Watson — From NASA to INCOSE on Systems Engineering’s Next Frontier]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>📢We are thrilled to announce the launch of The INCOSE Podcast!  </p><p> </p><p>To kick off our very first episode, we have the distinct honor of hosting Michael D. Watson, the new President of INCOSE and a widely respected leader in the systems engineering community. </p><p> </p><p>In this premiere episode, Watson dives deep into the evolving landscape of our discipline, sharing insights from his 30-year career at NASA and his vision for the future of INCOSE. </p><p> </p><p>What’s inside this episode: </p><p> </p><p>✅How the INCOSE President balances his role at Leidos with leading the international systems engineering community. </p><p>✅A look at the "elegant system" and why systems engineers own the interactions. </p><p>✅Why we need a tool bag of six different modeling types—from physics-based to system dynamics—to handle modern complexity. </p><p>✅Understanding the critical human and organizational dimensions of engineering. </p><p>✅Moving systems engineering toward a foundation of mathematical and physical science basis. </p><p> </p><p>🤝A huge thank you to Weber State University for making this debut possible.  </p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">90c399ff-5d0b-4af2-9b59-bc8c7ad158db</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Bernal]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 21:52:47 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/47ee9c2a3503f0197e422c436a922f5c30a2a5c004c6febfe092026cf481b7de/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5MGMzOTlmZi01ZDBiLTRhZjItOWI1OS1iYzhjN2FkMTU4ZGIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4YmViNWY5OC0wZmUxLTRhOGQtYWYwYy0xMWJmMWE5M2IzODUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2OGU1OTRjNjBlZmZlNjVjNzc4ZWFjNzQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNjk5ZTFkNTQwNTlkNjgwYTU0NjAwYmZhL3NhbWFudGhhLWJlcm5hbHMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtMi0yNF9fMjItNTEtMTYubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="47046887" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;📢We are thrilled to announce the launch of The INCOSE Podcast!  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To kick off our very first episode, we have the distinct honor of hosting Michael D. Watson, the new President of INCOSE and a widely respected leader in the systems engineering community. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this premiere episode, Watson dives deep into the evolving landscape of our discipline, sharing insights from his 30-year career at NASA and his vision for the future of INCOSE. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What’s inside this episode: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅How the INCOSE President balances his role at Leidos with leading the international systems engineering community. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅A look at the &quot;elegant system&quot; and why systems engineers own the interactions. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Why we need a tool bag of six different modeling types—from physics-based to system dynamics—to handle modern complexity. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Understanding the critical human and organizational dimensions of engineering. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;✅Moving systems engineering toward a foundation of mathematical and physical science basis. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;🤝A huge thank you to Weber State University for making this debut possible.  &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:32:40</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8beb5f98-0fe1-4a8d-af0c-11bf1a93b385/logos/2778fbe8-3661-40a2-ae3f-d6fef2036e94.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Ep 1: Michael Watson — From NASA to INCOSE on Systems Engineering’s Next Frontier</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>