Links:

Edison Coffee Co.

Edison Instagram

The Body Keeps The Score

The Night Is Normal

The Taste Gap

Whatever Is Lovely with Lauren Chandler

Let's Play Heardle on Instagram

Story Script with Kent Rabalais

Kent Studio

Don't Let Me Down by The Chainsmokers

Produced by Lauren Chandler, Steven Cooper, and Kent Rabalais

Music by Steven Cooper

Edited by Kent Rabalais

Chapters

00:00 Bumper 

00:40 Introduction

02:08 Why Make It. Share It. - Lauren

06:11 Why Make It. Share It. - Steven

09:50 Why Make It. Share It. - Kent

13:00 Share It! No Matter What

23:20 The Taste Gap 

27:23 Billy Corgan's Advice (Smashing Pumpkins)

32:25 What To Expect In Future Episodes And Closing

We get started talking about the band “Dream Theater” then move to a few significant turning points in Matt’s life, including learning the importance of buying low and selling high when selling candy to classmates.

We transition into the incredible story of creative iteration that led to the launch of a web app for donations that changed Matt’s life forever, what he learned about the importance of meaningful work vs working for money, and why he is taking on making and sharing Mivallo.

Why does getting super specific about what problem you’re solving matter so much in business? What do you do if you have an idea and vision for a technology company but you’re not a technical person? Why is picking the right brand name for a product matter so much more than a service? What if you have a brilliant idea that you know will work but you don’t want to tell anyone because you’re worried someone will steal it?

Check out this episode with Matt Murph for the answers to those and more.

3 Fun Facts About Matt

1. He sold roses at popular date spots in high school and started entrepreneurial pursuits at a young age.

2. He learned to code to build a web app to help churches with online donations which launched a business that doubled in growth for several years in a row until he sold it. You’ll never guess how the idea for this came to him!

3. He is starting a clothing brand called Mivallo and has his teenage daughters involved in the new venture. The inspiration for Mivallo is the perfect example of the importance of solving a specific problem when starting a new business rather than creating a solution looking for a problem.

Excited for you to hear this one and please do take a minute to leave a review wherever you watch or listen to Make It. Share It.

Matt’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mmurph

Mivallo Website: https://www.mivallo.com/

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Getting to Know Matt Murph

05:17 Entrepreneurial Habits: Seeing Opportunities and Going for the Lowest Hanging Fruit

12:57 The Creation of Easy Tithe: An Online Donation Platform for Churches

30:03 Transitioning from Building a Successful Company to Accidental Retirement

37:32 Venturing into the Clothing Industry: Innovating Solutions for Women's Bathing Suits

39:50 Empowering Mothers and Daughters

44:36 Solving the Swimsuit Problem

46:25 The Power of Unique Branding

50:56 Word-of-Mouth Marketing

53:28 Avoiding Trendy Fashion Choices

56:23 The Fulfillment of the Journey

Discover how a fun conversation over homemade salsa became a thriving business partnership, why George Harrison of The Beatles financed a Monty Python film, and what it really takes to keep creating when the path forward isn’t clear.

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

Dreams have their own timeline. Surrender control but don’t stop believing. Lauren’s journey with Storied Provisions shows how a dream that didn’t come true in 2021 or 2023 finally came alive in 2024, when the timing was right and the right people appeared.

Share your work before it’s finished because other creatives are your greatest allies. From Monty Python getting funded by musician friends to indie filmmakers supporting each other, the episode reveals why bringing fellow creators into the process early is essential to getting things made.

The hardest part isn’t the creating. It’s the business of making it sustainable. The real challenge is navigating the practical realities while protecting your creative vision.

Something Unexpected

Find out how Monty Python couldn’t get funding in America for decades, and how George Harrison casually wrote a check for over $300,000 just because he “wanted to see the movie” after reading the script for Life of Brian the night before. Plus, discover why Hollywood comedies became less funny in the 2000s (hint: it has everything to do with the international market).

Listen to the full episode for:

The complete story of how Storied Provisions went from a Pinterest board and a back-pocket dream to a real coffee shop, bakery, and mercantile, including the divine appointments and speed bumps along the way.

Kent’s insights on the indie film journey for “One Night in a Thousand Years,” including the reality of applying for grants, self-funding, and why he’s choosing the independent route over studio deals.

Cooper’s revelations from seeing John Cleese live, including why movies stopped being funny and valuable lessons about creative persistence from comedy legends who couldn’t break into their market.

The importance of “Story Scripting” and defining your why before your where—a process that helped Lauren and her team stay focused on their original vision when new ideas and partners pulled them in different directions.

Practical encouragement for anyone in the middle of a long creative journey who’s wondering if they should keep going.

Resources

Storied Provisions Instagram: @storiedprovisionstx (Follow along as Lauren and Sarah bring this dream to life!)

Story Script Process: Connect with Kent Rabalais by replying to this email for guidance on clarifying your creative vision and staying on track with your dream project.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction - Catching Up on What We’re Making

00:49 Lauren’s Story: The Genesis of Storied Provisions

03:33 The Bridgeport Birthday and Finding Inspiration at the Table

06:23 Meeting with Sparrow Collective and Learning to Let Go

08:56 The Homemade Salsa That Changed Everything

10:01 Why Story Script Matters—Staying Centered on Your Vision

16:35 What Storied Provisions Actually Is (and Isn’t)

20:30 Learning to Trust Your Gut and Say No to Good Ideas

24:45 The Challenge of Making It Sustainable

28:20 Kent’s Update on “One Night in a Thousand Years”

35:15 The Reality of Independent Filmmaking

42:30 Cooper’s Night with John Cleese

47:00 Why Monty Python Couldn’t Break America

57:46 George Harrison and the Power of Creative Friendship

59:01 Why Movies Stopped Being Funny in the 2000s

01:01:05 Final Thoughts: Keep Fighting the Good Fight

If you’re in the middle of a creative dream that feels hard, impossible, or just unclear, this episode is for you. Subscribe to Make It. Share It. wherever you listen to podcasts, and join us as we learn what it really takes to make and share the things we’re called to create.

Brooke opens up about the unexpected journey that led her to write about friendship, from a last-minute pitch pivot to discovering that friendships aren’t just for this life – they’re eternal. She shares candidly about:

* The turning point: A 2019 moment when obedience to God brought healing from severe depression

* Finding your creative calling: How writing became her path after acting dreams faded

* The hybrid publishing experience: Why Hope Books offered the perfect middle ground between traditional and self-publishing

* Overcoming the insecurity of self-promotion: Reframing how we share what we create

* Jesus as an actual friend: Using sanctified imagination to develop real friendship with Christ

* Why friendship matters eternally: Investing in relationships that transcend this life

Plus: Cooper goes off on platform culture, we discuss Pearl Jam’s “Yellow Ledbetter,” and somehow Sinbad’s McDonald’s bit makes an appearance.

If you’re a creative struggling with the courage to share your work, or someone longing for deeper community – this conversation is for you.

Resources

* Book: Closer Than a Brother by Brooke Ledbetter (foreword by Lauren Chandler)

* Connect with Brooke: Instagram @brooke.e.ledbetter

* Brooke’s Substack: Fox & Swallow

Chapters

03:33 The Pearl Jam “Yellow Ledbetter” connection

05:04 Brooke’s turning point: giving up something she loved and experiencing healing

08:19 The night-before-the-pitch moment when the book idea crystallized

16:38 Why having an editor is like having a music producer

22:20 The struggle with feeling like hybrid publishing was “cheating”

28:28 Dreams and Community Support

31:34 Overcoming Self-Doubt in Sharing Ideas

32:37 Taking the Leap: From Idea to Pitch

35:26 Discovering a Passion for Writing

38:35 The Importance of Trying New Things

45:07 Navigating Self-Promotion and Sharing Work

46:22 The main insight: friendship with Jesus as practice, not just theology

In this episode of Make It. Share It. Kent and Cooper sit down with Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr., entrepreneur, producer, artist, teacher, and Associate Pastor at The Potter’s House, for a rich conversation about divine timing, creative seasons, and the kinds of conversations the creative community desperately needs to start having.

From being too broke to drive home to St. Louis, to turning down a full fellowship at NYU’s Tisch School of Arts, to hearing Bishop T.D. Jakes unknowingly preach the perfect sermon on his first day as a new hire, Dr. Oscar’s journey is a masterclass in trusting the process, especially when the process is painful.

He also shares what he’s making right now: a new podcast called Are You Okay?, a Good Friday musical theater production called Tell the Story coming to the Irving Arts Center on April 3rd, 2026, new music releasing under Oscar Williams & the Band of Life, and a creative consulting firm called Speak Life 3C.

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

* Being ‘too broke to go back’ can be God’s most precise positioning. Sometimes he holds you in the hard place long enough for the breakthrough to actually stick.

* The creative community is not talking enough about physical, mental, and financial wellbeing and that silence is costing us a generation of artists.

* The relationships and skills you build while serving someone else’s vision are never wasted. They become the infrastructure for your own dreams.

✨ Something Unexpected

Dr. Oscar was accepted into NYU’s Tisch School of Arts with a full fellowship, one of only two offered to 300 applicants from around the world, and turned it down. Find out why, and why he still keeps the acceptance letter.

🎧 Listen to the Full Episode For:

* The full story of Dr. Oscar’s worst year in Dallas — including a repossessed car, eviction, and the single conversation with God that changed everything.

* Why he was fired from a church in Atlanta on New Year’s Eve, and how that led directly to his role at The Potter’s House under Bishop T.D. Jakes.

* A behind-the-scenes look at his upcoming Good Friday musical theater production, Tell the Story, retelling the resurrection through the eyes of four women who encountered Jesus.

* His honest reflections on grief, overspiritualizing illness, and the financial patterns that keep creative people from building wealth.

* Why creatives need to make a budget and how coming in under budget can earn you an investor for life.

* When it’s time to stop building someone else’s dream and start betting on your own.

👤 About Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr.

Dr. Oscar Williams, Jr. is a pastor, entrepreneur, producer, artist, teacher, and leadership developer based in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. He serves as Associate Pastor of Music and Creative Arts at The Potter’s House under Bishop T.D. Jakes and leads Speak Life LLC, a creative coaching and consulting firm helping individuals and organizations build stronger teams and realize their biggest creative visions. His music is released under the name Oscar Williams & the Band of Life. He is also the creator of the forthcoming podcast Are You Okay?, dedicated to the physical, mental, and financial well-being of creatives.

🎨 What Dr. Oscar Is Making Right Now

* Are You Okay? Podcast — candid conversations with creatives about mental, physical, and financial health

* Tell the Story — a Good Friday musical theater production at the Irving Arts Center, April 3, 2026 (1 PM & 8 PM)

* New Music — upcoming single “Me and an Angel” releasing under Oscar Williams & the Band of Life

* Speak Life 3C — creative coaching and consulting for individuals, leaders, and organizations

🔗 Resources & Links

Follow Dr. Oscar Williams:

oscarworldwide.com

speaklifellc.com

Social media handle (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn): @OscarWorldwide

Music on Spotify & Apple Music: search Oscar Williams and the Band of Life

⏱ Chapter Timestamps

00:00 — Introduction & Welcome

01:14 — The Most Interesting Thing Dr. Oscar Has Learned Recently (Darkness, Light, and Ephesians)

03:33 — Turning Point: Moving to Dallas After His Father’s Death

07:00 — Rock Bottom in Dallas — Eviction, Repossession, and Rejected by Walmart

09:00 — The Church Audition That Was Already Closed (And How He Got the Job Anyway)

10:40 — When God Keeps You Too Broke to Go Home

13:38 — His Musical Background: Piano, Composition, and “Communicating” Through Song

15:30 — Part Two: The Atlanta Church, the NYU Fellowship, and Another Unexpected Turn

18:00 — Getting Accepted to NYU Tisch (Full Fellowship, One of Two) — and Saying No

20:00 — Getting Let Go on New Year’s Eve and What Bishop Jakes Preached His First Sunday

25:30 — What Dr. Oscar Is Making Now

27:00 — The Are You Okay? Podcast: Wellbeing for Creatives Nobody’s Talking About

29:00 — Tell the Story: A Good Friday Musical Theater Production (Irving Arts Center, April 3, 2026)

31:30 — Oscar Williams & the Band of Life + Speak Life 3C Consulting

33:00 — Grief, Over-Spiritualizing Illness, and Financial Stewardship for Creatives

39:00 — Knowing Your Identity Isn’t Based on What You Make

40:00 — The “Curse of the Creative” — From ‘This is the Best Thing I’ve Made’ to ‘Is This Even Good?’ in 48 Hours

43:00 — Retelling the Resurrection: Reimagining Judas, the Samaritan Woman, and Pastor J

46:00 — Building Community Before You Need It (And Discovering Who Wants to See You Win)

50:00 — Betting on Yourself vs. Faithfully Building Someone Else’s Dream

54:00 — Legacy Thinking: The Next 10-15 Years and Getting to That Beach

56:00 — Why Creatives Should Always Bring a Budget

This episode of Make It. Share It. features a lawyer, and no, we’re not in trouble. Kent’s long-time friend, Stewart Shurtleff, who recently formed the law firm Rothberg, Shurtleff, and Dang, joins the show to discuss developing people, building places, and much more.

🔑 4 Keys From The Episode

* Leadership Lessons from the Band Hall to the Boardroom: The surprising influence of Stewart’s high school band director on his life.

* “Jack-of-All-Trades, Master of None”: Is there more to this famous quote? Having diverse skills and interests can be a more significant asset than you think.

* The Power of Naming: A vulnerable story about the power of naming our emotions clearly and the essential role of people who know us well enough to help us with this process.

* The Gift of Listening: Stewart shares the importance of having friends who listen well and who can repeat back to you what you’re saying so it can finally penetrate your heart.

📢 "I can't even put that narrative together really tightly still because the last couple, three years have been, I get whatever analogy, right? In the middle of the war, stuck in a forest fire, whatever sort of everything is on fire and falling around you, you want to lay on top of that."

-Stewart on navigating the last few years of life, which has led to building something new with his wife and good friend

🎮 Something Unexpected: Kent and Stewart reveal a rabbit’s hole for 90s gamers that is probably best avoided altogether…unless you want to try landing on that aircraft carrier again.

📖 Resources Mentioned:

The Expectation Gap by Steve Cuss

Steve Cuss (Words) Website

17Twenty Podcast by Stewart Shurtleff and Kevin Carey

Tune in to hear Stewart's inspiring story of making and sharing, filled with laughter, insights, and a fresh perspective on how creativity and courage can shape our lives.

Follow Stewart On LinkedIn

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Background

10:34 Stewart's Turning Point: Middle School and High School Band

19:28 Building a Podcast: Stewart’s Journey with 17Twenty

22:03 Stewart’s Career as a Lawyer: From Midsize Firms to In-House Counsel

23:57 Building a New Firm: Rothberg, Shurtleff, and Dang

32:50 The Power of Being a Jack-of-All-Trades

46:47 Naming and Clarifying Emotions and Patterns

56:16 Sharing Experiences and Expertise

01:00:30 Focusing on Meaningful Work

Jamie shares more about his unique identity discovery and development process, how it differs entirely from radical individualism, how to find your voice as a creative, and much more.

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

* True identity is a gift received in community.

* Our true identity becomes more precise over time through ongoing listening to God’s voice in community with others.

* Unaddressed fear shuts down true identity and creativity.

Something Unexpected

Find out how two movies, Serpico and Buffalo 66, influenced Jamie's journey and taught him valuable lessons about resilience and the human condition.

Listen to the full episode for:

* Jamie's remarkable stories of using the power of true identity to bring peaceful resolutions and creative problem-solving to the world’s most militant, hostile regions.

* Insights on discovering and embracing your true identity and finding your unique voice.

* A rich perspective on the beauty of brokenness and the power of redemption when creating.

If you’re like us, you’ll want to know more about “how” to find your true identity. As mentioned on the podcast a great place to start is with this set of audio guides where Jamie and his wife Donna lead you through their simple, but profound process to come into the presence of Jesus and hear what he has to say about the identity he knit together in your mother’s womb.

Resources

Identity Exchange Website

Living Fearless

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

03:33 Impact of Movies on Life

06:36 Turning Points and Relationships

10:46 The Role of Shame in Creativity

13:38 Fear and Creativity

16:41 Received Identity vs Radical Individualism

22:43 The Essence of True Identity

25:42 Creativity in Crisis Situations

30:51 The Power of Community in Identity

34:40 Writing and the Creative Process

38:46 Challenges in Writing a Screenplay

54:38 Nurturing True Identity

Stories From The Show

* Cooper shares his journey of balancing his passion for music with his career in the oil and gas industry, and how the lessons learned in each world have shaped his approach to creativity.

* In a providential encounter, Cooper meets actor Jason Lee at his camera shop in LA, leading to a moment of realization about the kind of multifaceted creative life Coop aspires to live.

* The importance of preparation and having a deep well of creative ideas and sounds to draw from when collaborating with artists

* How skills and lessons from the business world, especially building strong relationships, translate to the creative process in the studio

* Maintaining a focus on the joy of the creative process itself rather than external validation or "chasing the third thing"

* Staying true to yourself and your varied interests and passions rather than feeling the need to fit a certain mold

Questions We Explore

* What lessons from seemingly unrelated fields can shape an approach to the creative process?

* How does embracing a multifaceted identity contribute to a rich and fulfilling creative life?

* How can we maintain a sense of childlike wonder and find joy in the act of creation rather than seeking external validation?

"I left going, yeah, that's kind of the life I want also. Like photographer, musician, baker, (actor), drawing…whatever (creative expression emerges)."

-Steven Cooper, after spending time with actor Jason Lee at his camera shop in LA

Chapters

00:00 Transitioning from Oil and Gas to Music Production

08:26 Finding Time for Creativity

17:59 Navigating Creative Ideas in the Studio

25:45 Innovative Sound Creation

31:32 The Multifaceted Creative Life

39:15 The Importance of Authenticity

46:56 Sharing and Feedback in Creativity

Jake's love of filmmaking started when he was young, watching the power of a beautiful story unfold on a screen, giving hope and joy to his family in difficult times. He started working on a script in college that snowballed into a remarkable rollercoaster ride that led to making a movie with Tim Tebow, walking the red carpet, and more.

But what happened next may surprise you. Jake shares about an unexpected dark night of the soul after the credits rolled and how he has navigated the aftermath of achieving a lifelong goal.

This episode hits on persevering to fulfill a calling, the essential role of a community in creating, the power of imitating masters of the craft, and the challenges you confront after you've realized a dream.

Links From The Show:

Watch RUN THE RACE

Rising Light Ridge - Tim Tebow Foundation

Follow Jake On Instagram

00:03 Introduction and Welcome

00:46 Guest Introduction: Jake McEntire

01:42 What Movie Scene Would You Choose To Relive?

04:10 Jake's Turning Point

08:08 Origins of 'Run the Race'

10:26 Challenges in Making 'Run the Race'

22:02 Pivotal Meeting with Tim Tebow

24:40 Reflections on the Journey

26:43 The Calling of Creativity

27:14 The Race of Life and the Power of Community

29:00 The Journey of Making a Film

30:03 The Challenges of Film Distribution

30:47 The Unexpected Costs of Sharing a Film

34:10 The Joy and Struggles of Film Success

35:18 The Aftermath of Achieving a Dream

38:07 The Reality of Creative Success

41:04 Creative Projects On The Horizon

51:08 The Struggles of Balancing Creativity and Life

53:57 The Power of Perseverance in Creativity

Our goal with this episode is to talk through our individual experiences with creative guides in hopes that it helps you find the right guide at the right time.

And…incorporate Rick Rubin (as usual), Milli Vanilli (first time), Jon Acuff (also first time), and the movie Ratatouille.

Rick Rubin 60 Minutes Interview

Duffer Brothers Master Class

https://www.masterclass.com/classes/the-duffer-brothers-teach-developing-an-original-tv-series 

Jon Acuff “Finish”

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Give-Yourself-Gift-Done/dp/1591847621 

Ratatouille

Chapters

00:00 Introduction 

01:59 Discussion on Milli Vanilli

06:12 Guides and Mentors

07:14 Coop's Experience with Guides and Mentors

14:27 Lauren's Experience with Guides and Mentors

21:24 Understanding Your Inner Critic

21:59 The Power of Collaboration in Overcoming Perfectionism

23:00 The Role of Collaboration in Songwriting

24:20 The Artist and the Critic: Ratatouille

25:07 The Importance of Community in Creativity

27:25 The Journey of Creativity: From Bad Ideas to Masterpieces

28:10 The Role of Guides in the Creative Process

29:27 The Importance of Routine in Creativity

30:08 The Power of Persistence in Creativity

36:02 Teaching Songwriting to the Next Generation

39:55 The Power of Stream of Consciousness Writing

41:41 Closing Thoughts on Creativity and Guides

Kyle is the Lead Pastor of Mosaic Church in Richardson, Texas, the author of the recent books "Home with God: Union with Christ" and “Formed For Fellowship,” and a co-host on the Knowing Faith podcast.

Hear how a college philosophy professor transformed his thinking, why he starts every project with a yellow legal pad and Sharpie, and the surprising challenges of writing children's books.

From his disciplined Friday afternoon writing routine (complete with jujitsu and protein shakes) to discovering characters in his John the Baptist fiction project, Kyle offers practical insights into balancing multiple creative projects. He also gets refreshingly real about the challenges of "sharing" versus "making" – and why he'd rather write than promote any day.

Whether you're wrestling with creative discipline, wondering about the role of formal training, or navigating the overwhelming world of book promotion, this conversation offers both encouragement and practical wisdom for the creative journey.

Creative Resource Referenced On The Show: Writing Down The Bones

*Edit - Must include a link to pre-order Kyle’s children’s book: “The Dragon Slayer and His Super Special Suit,” after all that dragon talk at the end!

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Creativity and Friendship

05:32 Turning Points in Life and Creativity

08:00 The Creative Process: Writing and Sharing

16:58 The Journey of Writing: From Inspiration to Execution

25:41 Creative Community and Collaboration

27:50 The Balance of Making and Discussing Creativity

30:47 Navigating Feedback and Honest Conversations

30:50 Exploring Fiction Writing

42:00 The Challenges of Sharing Creative Work

During our conversation with Matt, we delve into various aspects of his life and work:

* Prioritizing Friendship Over Competition: Matt shares a pivotal moment from his high school days when he made the decision to prioritize friendship over competitive sports. This decision had a profound impact on his life, and we explore how it shaped him.

* "The Timekeeper" Project: We take an in-depth look at Matt's latest project, "The Timekeeper." It’s a fascinating blend of an online event experience and a horror podcast. Matt shares the creative process behind it, the challenges of bringing such a unique concept to life, and the inspiration that drove him to create it.

* Navigating the Knowledge Gap: Matt discusses the hurdles he faced in bridging the knowledge gap in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

* The Power of Adaptability: We emphasize the importance of maintaining an adaptive mindset in the face of technological changes. Matt shares insights into staying relevant and thriving in an ever-changing creative landscape.

* Applying Gravity To Marketing: Matt elaborates on strategically positioning one's work to create a gravity-like pull, attracting an audience to the content's narrative. He provides valuable tips on how creators can make their work more compelling and engaging.

Resources From The Show:

The Timekeeper Wrap Report

Timecode Chapters:

00:40 Introduction and Guest Welcome

01:10 Getting to Know Matt Brown

02:15 Holiday Traditions and Memories

06:20 Turning Points and Life Decisions

16:45 The Concept of Timekeeper

23:05 Challenges in Creating Timekeeper

26:07 Breaking into the Oil Business: A Personal Journey

26:37 The Power of Personal Ability in Job Interviews

26:53 Drawing Parallels: Oil Business and Music

27:32 Overcoming Fear of the Unknown: A Key to Success

28:24 The Importance of Asking Questions and Seeking Help

28:49 Avoiding the Masterpiece Mentality: The Art of Moving On

35:37 The Challenge of Sharing in the Digital Age

39:44 The Art of Marketing in the Modern World

41:24 The Gravity of Narrative and Storytelling in Marketing

47:43 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Kyle opens up about a profound turning point in his life—losing his daughter in 2015—and how this tragedy deepened his faith, shaping both his personal life and professional approach to writing. He discusses finding the perfect balance between humor and depth in his content, noting that he aims for "80-90% funny and lighthearted, then 10% taking you below the line."

The conversation examines the challenges of building a business from scratch, growing an audience authentically, and staying disciplined amid endless creative possibilities. Kyle also shares his upcoming projects, including some fun Normal Sport merch and a children's golf book.

Something Unexpected: Discover why Kyle believes the most powerful stories in golf come not from the winner's circle, but from those processing the pain of near-misses and defeat.

Resources Mentioned In The Show:

Here is the Tim Keller quote on suffering that Kyle references from Keller’s book Walking With God Through Pain and Suffering:

Suffering ‘plants the flag of truth within the fortress of a rebel soul.’

Here is a link to the book Joy In The Sorrow where you can find Kyle’s chapter on losing his daughter and many other poignant essays.

Listen to the full episode for:

* Kyle's insights on writing about sports without taking it too seriously

* The entrepreneurial challenges of growing a niche newsletter

* Why writing a children's book is surprisingly more difficult in some ways than writing for adults

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest

01:51 Kyle Porter's Journey in Golf Writing

08:22 Turning Points in Life and Faith

12:36 The Birth of Normal Sport

16:37 The Creative Process of Writing

27:33 Balancing Humor and Depth in Communication

30:08 The Importance of Authenticity in Storytelling

33:25 The Value of Unconventional Paths in Careers

36:57 Strategies for Growing an Audience

43:03 Creating Meaningful Products for Families

48:52 The Art of Storytelling and Overcoming Obstacles

🎧 5 Keys You'll Learn:

1. Authentic Creativity: Discover why staying true to your unique sound is more important than ever in today’s music landscape.

2. DIY Production: Learn how Grady and his band are taking control of their music production, proving that you don’t need a big studio to create high-quality music.

3. Engaging with Fans: Understand the importance of building and maintaining a strong connection with your audience.

4. Financial Savvy: Grady shares valuable insights on the financial side of being a musician, from smart spending to managing revenue streams.

5. Adapting to Change: Hear how Grady and his band adapt to new trends and technologies, staying flexible in a rapidly evolving industry.

🤩 Fun Fact from the Episode:

Did you know Grady's favorite movie to watch with his kids is "Sing"? It's a household favorite and a perfect blend of great music and fun animation.

🤔 Something Unexpected:

We talk about Dan Blank’s recent post “To Be Seen As A Writer Or Artist” when discussing the difficulties of writing, recording, and distributing indie music which is based on one of the best scenes of The Office:

🎤 Outro:

This episode is not just for musicians, but for anyone who loves music and appreciates the dedication and creativity it takes to bring a song to life.

Links and Resources:

* Follow Grady Spencer and the Work on social media: @GSandtheWork

* Visit Grady Spencer’s official website: gradyspencer.com

* Listen to the band’s latest single “New Dress” on all streaming platforms

Love the episode? Leave us a review and let us know what you think! Your feedback keeps us going. 🚀

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Mutual Connections

03:02 Personal Story and Music Industry Challenges

08:06 Turning Point: New Perspective on Music and Creativity

13:58 In-House Recording and Collaborative Songwriting

36:17 Navigating the Music Industry Challenges

46:37 Learning From The Office: Pam’s Art Show

Stories From The Show

* Adam shares a Turning Point from a middle school writing contest that sent him to a career in screenwriting

* Adam shares how he went from making car wash parts in New Jersey to being a paid screenwriter

* How Adam created Atomic Entertainment with his friend Jerry Kolber to create genre-defining neuroscience and informational series like BRAIN GAMES and BRAINCHILD.

* Adam's newest podcast, "What Were They Thinking?” investigates past Oscar decisions and behind-the-scenes stories with co-host Bruce Vilanch, a writer for many Oscar shows over the years.

* Adam shares a couple of surprising behind-the-scenes stories about actors and the Oscars from the podcast

* The real story behind Ryan Reynolds singing "I Swear" in the fat suit for the opening of the movie “Just Friends.”

Questions We Explore

* How can creatives keep going in the face of frequent rejection and projects not getting made?

* What lessons can be applied from the business world, like building strong relationships, to the creative process?

* How important is it for artists to have a unique, searchable name to stand out in a crowded field?

* Should you keep pitching and revising a rejected screenplay or move on to the next project?

Chapters

04:14 Turning Points in Writing

07:09 The Importance of Creative Exercises

09:56 Navigating Rewrites and Collaborations

12:56 The Birth of Atomic Entertainment

15:57 Resilience in the Face of Rejection

19:08 The Journey To Making Just Friends

21:42 The Oscars: What Were They Thinking?

24:46 Creating the Podcast: A New Venture

29:04 The Oscars: A Deep Dive into Nominations and Winners

31:42 The Evolution of the Academy Awards

33:24 The Importance of Branding and Marketing in Film

37:52 The Making of Just Friends and Working With Ryan Reynolds

42:09 Behind the Scenes: Oscar Stories and Anecdotes

Donna has been making and sharing things for decades: touring with a band, leading worship, co-leading a church with her husband Ben, and quietly working on a poetry project called Growing for the last ten years. Growing explores seven seasons of the soul, told in verse, from the darkness of a buried seed to the rise above the ground, through pruning, storms, death, and everything in between. And it finally landed.

In this episode, Donna walks us through the creative odyssey behind Growing—from its origin in the idea that Dr. Seuss’s “useless” waiting place was actually anything but, to the five iterations it took before it could finally be held in someone’s hands. She shares why it became a coloring flip book (because publishers didn’t get it and self-printing cost $10,000), how QR codes saved the project, and why she now believes the decade of waiting wasn’t delay; it was formation.

“Everything I create is out of the overflow of the love that I’ve received. And when my reception of love was broken — my creativity was broken too.”

🔑 Three Key Takeaways

The Waiting Place Is Not Useless. Donna rejected Dr. Seuss’s characterization of the waiting place as useless, then spent a decade proving it wrong. Every chapter of Growing required her to actually live through the season she was writing about. The hidden years were the content.

Misplaced Love Stifles Creativity. During COVID, Donna experienced a personal revival centered on one realization: she was receiving love from people who didn’t have the capacity to give it. Reorienting her loves: putting God first and right-sizing everything else gave her a new capacity to create.

Your Market May Not Exist Yet. Create Anyway. From QR codes that didn’t exist when she first imagined Growing to Canva, which made her book possible years later, Donna’s story is a reminder that technology and audience often catch up. Your job is to keep making.

Something Unexpected

Donna wrote a Hallmark movie song in 40 minutes in a parking lot, while waiting to pick up her son from boxing. She had just prayed over her journal, asking God to let her take a swing at something she’d always dreamed of. The song went to the top of Hallmark’s list, and it was eventually performed by two Broadway stars: the actress who played Glinda and the actor who played Fiyero in Wicked.

Listen to the Full Episode For:

* The full story of Growing — ten years, five iterations, one coloring flip book

* Why Donna called out The Giving Tree for codependency

* What resilience actually looks like in the creative “cave” — and why she’s grateful for it

* The Mercy Me bus story — self-promotion, humility, and the lesson she learned the hard way

Resources

* Growing by Donna Stuart — on YouTube

* Growing Book

* Donna Stuart Creative

* Instagram: @donnastuart

* Anonymous: Jesus in His Hidden Years by Alicia Britt Cholé

* Books by David Benner

* The Critical Journey by Janet O. Hagberg & Robert A. Guelich

Chapters

00:00 - Welcome and introduction to Donna Stuart's creative journey00:20 - Donna’s nostalgic story about "A Smoky Mountain Christmas" and childhood influences01:45 - The significance of seasons and waiting in creative growth02:58 - Personal revival during COVID and the impact on her understanding of love and creativity07:14 - The power of naming emotions and key turning points in spiritual and artistic journeys09:19 - Reflection on long-term projects, patience, and trusting the process13:09 - Donna’s latest project: a 10-year journey and the metaphor of seeds in darkness15:34 - Insights from children’s books and the importance of waiting on the “Useless Place”17:00 - The poetic process of her upcoming book about the underground seasons of growth18:29 - The story of creating a song for a Hallmark movie and trusting divine timing21:22 - The surprise of God's orchestration in unexpected collaborations and opportunities23:00 - The analogy of building Cowboy Stadium and technological breakthroughs in creative work26:34 - Embracing the cave as a place of renewal and deepening faith during difficulty29:58 - The journey of songwriting and the mystery of creative catch and release31:53 - The story of a chance connection leading to a meaningful project and unexpected moments of blessing40:16 - Finding resilience in the cave, understanding the seasons of life, and divine patience44:03 - Elijah, Ahab, and the small whisper—trusting God in the cave's quiet moments45:52 - The metaphor of underground roots and the rise of creative potential47:52 - The art of sharing: natural, organic, and rooted in love—overcoming the discomfort of self-promotion51:15 - Personal stories of youthful ambition, mistakes, and growth toward humility55:33 - The beauty of divine stories in our creative journey—trusting God's storytelling from seed to harvest58:44 - The modern realities of music industry and trusting divine timing59:44 - The importance of just saying “yes” and embracing the open unknowns60:53 - How to follow Donna’s work and stay connected through Instagram and her website61:24 - Closing thoughts—keep making, keep sharing, and trusting in the seasons of your creative story

From conducting orchestras to developing Broadway Junior musicals, Greg's journey reminds us that our greatest setbacks can become launching pads for unexpected opportunities.

✨ In this episode:

Finding creative courage after hitting rock bottom

How a one-violin orchestra program led to the Kennedy Center

The power of unlikely creative partnerships

Turning criticism into triumph (wait until you hear the "baby hippo" story!)

Connect with Greg:

Email: experienceredemptionproject@gmail.com

Instagram: @babyhippogram

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Creativity and Courage

02:58 Greg's Journey Through Music and Identity

06:07 Overcoming Failure and Rediscovering Passion

09:03 The Power of Collaboration and Vulnerability

12:09 Creating a Musical: The Frederick Douglass Project

14:58 Navigating Success and Setting Realistic Expectations

18:05 The Importance of Identity and Community

20:51 Finding Light in Darkness: A Story of Redemption

23:57 The Role of Creativity in Healing

26:53 Lessons from the Journey: Embracing Imperfection

30:10 Conclusion: The Ongoing Journey of Creation

32:45 The Power of Blessings in Disguise

34:56 Community and Connection in Times of Struggle

35:47 The Journey of Redemption and Restoration

39:04 Facing Dreams and Vulnerability

44:07 The Unexpected Paths to Fulfillment

50:02 The Importance of Sharing Dreams

55:04 Creating Together: The We and Him Story

Stories

* Lauren shares a story about vulnerability from a recent public speaking event and how it led to deeper connections with God and others

* Coop talks about finding space to create with his new Mega Desk invention (pic below)

* Kent gives thoughts about the effects of award shows on creativity and shares a fascinating story about how the talent agency CAA crafted the career arc of a major star after only one movie

* And more, including creativity in parenting, why it’s essential to apply your creativity to every domain of life, and what we can learn from funeral homes! (true story)

Questions

* What does it really mean to be vulnerable in public speaking?

* How do we craft questions that spark meaningful conversations?

* Can personal stories be both our greatest strength and weakness?

* How do we balance the pressure to perform with the need for authentic expression?

* We'll also examine the impact of audience expectations - do they fuel our creativity or stifle it?

* What happens when we lose sight of our childlike wonder? Can we reclaim it, and should we?

Mega Desk in action

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview of Creative Challenges

01:28 Exploring Podcasting Roadblocks

05:51 The Art of Questioning in Interviews

09:38 Personal Stories and Their Impact on Creativity

12:05 Vulnerability in Public Speaking

19:14 Creative Expression Beyond Traditional Outlets

29:13 Navigating Audience Expectations and Creative Freedom

31:10 The Role and Impact of Award Shows

36:30 Creative Spaces and Personal Roadblocks

43:00 Childlike Wonder in Creativity

51:32 The Art of Originality and Inspiration

Why did the “The Secret Garden” have such a significant impact on Christie’s life? What does it take to move from a career in the academic world to one as a gardener and writer? What if the first book you write only has an audience of one? How do our physical experiences contribute to breakthrough for creative work? Why does giving one small “yes” unlock more than building up to a massive leap?

Check out this episode for the answers to these questions and another inspiring story of creativity meeting courage.

Christie’s Website: https://www.christiepurifoy.com/

Christie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/christiepurifoy/

Seedtime and Harvest: https://www.christiepurifoy.com/seedtime-and-harvest-book/

The Secret Garden: https://www.amazon.com/Frances-Hodgson-Childrens-Curiosity-Exploration/dp/1774021765

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:58 Discovering a Love for Gardening

06:40 Turning Points and Taking Risks

09:24 The Importance of Small Yeses

12:09 Teaching and Creating Community

16:28 Transitioning from Academia to Writing

23:21 Overcoming Stuck(ness) and Embracing Rest

27:01 Engaging in Other Creative Pursuits

29:09 Finding Community and Learning from Others

36:19 Overcoming Fear and Sharing Your Work

42:23 Detaching Your Identity from Your Creations

46:16 Embracing Rest and Seasons of Life

We talk about the epic Lego Home Alone house, a couple of powerful turning points in Nathan’s musical career, Ethan Hawke’s Ted talk on creative storytelling, crafting a soundtrack that can inspire creativity and depth without being distracting, the painful process of defeating “resistance,” Rick Rubin’s reducer philosophy, and more.

Links:

Everywhere The River Goes

Lego Home Alone House

Ethan Hawke - Give Yourself Permission To Be Creative

Steven Pressfield - The War Of Art

This sci-fi dramedy revolves around a dysfunctional family with an unusual inheritance—a mystical storage unit. 

We talk about personal turning points in their respective creative journeys, starting small, the power of boundaries in creativity, mystery boxes, the unknown power of TikTok casting, (don’t knock it until you try it), ranking Season Two of Stranger Things, sharing Restorage, and more.

Mentioned During The Show:

Virtual Slamdance Pass

Olympic National Rainforest (true to our word, Caleb!)

More about Ean and Caleb:

Ean’s Site

Caleb’s Site

Follow Ean

Follow Caleb

Chapters:

00:03 Introduction to the Podcast

00:39 Meet Ean and Caleb

01:27 Favorite Vacation Spots

05:08 Turning Points in Creativity

11:54 The Genesis of Restorage

12:10 The Synopsis and Concept of Restorage

19:18 The Creative Process Behind Restorage

29:57 Discussing Stranger Things and Movie Budgets

34:20 The Unexpected Success of TikTok Casting

41:36 The Journey to Film Festivals

44:00 Sharing Restorage And Its Future

Lauren wrote the song as a gift for her children—something they could carry throughout their lives to remind them to praise God in every season. What started as a simple lullaby-like melody evolved through multiple iterations, including a tough moment when she first shared the unfinished song with a group and battled her fear of not being "good enough."

We discuss the critical role of feedback and collaboration, including how Nathan Nockels helped unlock the final chorus, Michael Bleecker championed the song's potential, and Grant McCurdy encouraged the unique value of the live worship recording.

Lauren shares a powerful moment watching a grieving mother worship through the song's lyrics about praising God even when the harvest’s yield is lost. The episode concludes with Lauren connecting the song to A.W. Tozer's concept of "The Sacrament of Living"—that every creative moment can be an act of worship and priestly ministry.

Links To Resources Mentioned In The Show

The Pursuit of God

Adorning The Dark

Chapters

00:00 Intro

03:42 Inspiration and Creative Endeavors

06:31 The Birth of 'Praise Him'

09:08 Songwriting Process and Vulnerability

11:51 Feedback and Collaboration in Music

17:39 Recording and Releasing 'Praise Him'

20:29 The Impact of Music on Worship

23:04 Navigating the Music Industry

28:48 Embracing Authentic Worship Sound

30:40 The Value of Different Worship Models

32:20 Navigating the Inner Critic in Creativity

33:30 The Courage to Create and Share

40:26 The Evolution of Praise Him

44:49 Finding God in Everyday Moments

Three Key Takeaways

Stop reading books that feel like work. Cooper's current approach to books: ditch the business/self-help books that feel like trudging through mud. Use AI for 2-page summaries and focus your reading time on stories, characters, and creative narratives that actually spark ideas.

Your creative calling might not look like what you expected. Sometimes you're not meant to be Michelangelo with the blank marble—you might be the person who comes in at year two to help perfect the masterpiece. Finding your true creative role can be more fulfilling than chasing someone else's definition of success.

The lies we tell ourselves are often half-truths. "You should probably quit. You're not talented enough. No one's listening." Instead of dismissing these thoughts entirely, learn to work with the parts that might be true while rejecting the destructive conclusions.

Something Unexpected

Discover how going back to 60s and 70s music (with actual fret buzz left in the recordings!) can revolutionize your creative output, and why Cooper is writing his first TV pilot for an actor he hasn't spoken to in decades.

Listen to the full episode for:

* Book recommendations that will change how you think about creativity (including two fiction novels that will make you cry and see art differently)

* The collaboration vs. solo creation debate and why even introverts need creative partners

* Lauren's mysterious passion project that's been 4 years in the making (and you'll be able to visit it!)

* Cooper's brilliant strategy for getting past creative imposter syndrome

* Why your dad listening to your song every morning might be the only success metric that matters

Resources Mentioned

Books:

* My Friends by Friedrich Bachmann

* Theo of Golden by Allen Levi

* The Dream Giver by Bruce Wilkinson

* Platforms to Pillars by Mark Sayers

* The Second Mountain by David Brooks

Substack Post

* “You Should Probably Quit” by Craig Cunningham

Quote of the Episode: "I simply help people sit still long enough to see what is already there."

-Theo of Golden by Allen Levi

Chapters

* 00:00 What's inspiring us lately

* 03:10 Cooper's reading revolution

* 16:41 Collaboration vs. radical individualism

* 25:42 Creativity in crisis situations

* 30:51 The power of community in creative work

* 40:53 The lies we tell ourselves about our work

* 53:30 Current projects we're working on

Make It. Share It. is the podcast where creativity meets courage. Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts and join our community of creators who are brave enough to make something and generous enough to share it.

You’ll love hearing about his eclectic journey in this episode of Make It. Share It. with J Paul The Carpenter.

J shares his story of being adopted, his mom and step dad’s profound influence on his life, and his experiences in music and carpentry. We discuss overcoming fear, perfectionism, and impostor syndrome and finding fulfillment in creating things that bring people together. His story highlights unexpected success, like his venture into carpentry during the pandemic, and embracing the opportunities right in front of us.

It’s another beautiful story of what happens when creativity meets courage.

J Paul’s Website: https://www.jpaulthecarpenter.com/

Follow J Paul On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jpaulthecarpenter/

J Paul’s YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@jpaulthecarpenter

Chapters:

00:39 Introducing J Paul: The Multifaceted Creative

04:04 J Paul's Creative Journey and Overcoming Challenges

05:33 The Turning Point: Life Lessons and Family Influence

11:27 Embracing Work and Finding Passion

16:27 Navigating Multiple Creative Avenues: Music and Woodworking

26:15 Recent Projects: From Concept to Creation

30:51 Crafting with Creativity: The Art of Building Beyond Expectations

31:07 Musical Analogies: Visualizing Creativity in the Studio

34:00 From First Builds to Favorite Projects: A Journey Through Craft

35:53 The Blackhawk Helicopter: A Favorite and Formative Experience

39:32 Discovering a Passion for Woodworking: From Pallets to Projects

42:37 The Power of Music: Transforming Songs into Hits

48:07 Sharing Creations: The Joy and Challenge of Letting Go

54:30 Embracing the Unexpected: How Small Projects Can Lead to Big Opportunities

57:24 Encouragement for Creatives: Just Start Making

From his new role in STRANGER THINGS to appearances in NIGHT AGENT, RABBIT HOLE, and CHICAGO PD, Graham shares candid insights about the creative life, the importance of staying connected to reality, and his journey as both an actor and musician.

This episode is a must-listen for young creatives, parents of aspiring artists, and anyone interested in the intersection of multiple creative pursuits.

🔑 THREE KEY TAKEAWAYS

Stay Grounded in Reality - Even at the height of success, maintaining "normal life experiences" keeps your creative work authentic and prevents life from feeling fake.

Embrace Multiple Creative Outlets - Pursuing both music and acting isn't a distraction—it's a way to feed different parts of your creative soul and bring fresh perspective to each discipline.

Trust the Process - From auditioning for STRANGER THINGS to landing roles in major productions, persistence and consistency matter more than instant success.

SOMETHING UNEXPECTED

Discover how Graham's experience on the set of Night Agent, combined with advice from the lead actor Gabriel Basso about working a "normal job" (he's a welder!), completely changed his perspective on balancing the extraordinary life of an actor with the importance of everyday experiences.

LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE FOR:

Graham's incredible story of booking STRANGER THINGS and the nerve-wracking wait to see if he made the final cut

Behind-the-scenes insights from working on major productions like NIGHT AGENT, RABBIT HOLE, and CHICAGO PD

The wild "HOME ALONE moment" of racing through O'Hare Airport to get home in time to watch his Chicago PD episode air

How Cooper's songwriting class helped Graham develop his musical voice

Why 90s grunge (Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam) resonates with a Gen Z artist

How Graham navigates rejection in the entertainment industry and keeps moving forward

RESOURCES & LINKS

Follow Graham Harvey:

Instagram: @instagrahamharvey

Graham's Projects Mentioned:

Stranger Things (Netflix) - Watch on Netflix

The Night Agent (Netflix) - Watch on Netflix

Rabbit Hole (Paramount+) - Watch on Paramount+

Chicago PD (NBC) - Watch on Peacock

CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Introduction & Congrats to Lauren on Storied Provisions launch

01:32 - Introducing Graham Harvey

02:00 - The 90s Music Question: Nirvana & Smashing Pumpkins

03:20 - Cooper's Backstage Nirvana Discovery Story

04:39 - Graham's Turning Point: Advice from Night Agent's Gabriel Basso

06:24 - Staying Grounded While Famous: The Counting Crows Documentary Story

08:06 - Starting with Movies: Graham's Recent Projects

09:18 - Landing the Stranger Things Role & The Audition Process

12:52 - The Nerve-Wracking Wait: Did He Make the Final Cut?15:45 - What It's Like to Be on the Stranger Things Set

20:10 - Comparing Different Production Experiences

23:30 - Balancing School and Acting Career

26:45 - The Creative Connection Between Music and Acting

30:15 - Cooper's Songwriting Class & Musical Development

35:20 - Writing Original Music: Influences and Process

38:50 - Handling Rejection in the Entertainment Industry

42:15 - Working on Night Agent with Gabriel Basso

46:31 - The Sharing Side: Release Day Nerves

46:51 - The Chicago PD "Home Alone" Airport Race Story

49:05 - The Baylor Connection: Derek Haas & Michael Brandt

50:48 - Closing Thoughts & How to Follow Graham

51:54 - Wrap-Up

* The surprising story of Gregg Alexander and New Radicals, who broke up their band by press release after their hit single "You Get What You Give" topped charts

* How Alexander discovered that his true calling wasn't being a pop star, but creating music itself

* The different paths creative people take when fame doesn't match their expectations

* Stories of musicians like Gwen Stefani's brother who walked away from a successful band to pursue a different life

* The freedom that comes from creating for the right reasons, not just for acclaim

💡 Quote Worth Sharing: "The only reward I have ever felt at all is if someone else is inspired to go do something because of something I made."

Chapters

00:00 The New Radicals and Personal Connections to Music

02:44 The Impact of Fame and the Music Industry

05:45 Songwriting and the Art of Composition

09:11 The Dichotomy of Fame: Desire vs. Reality

12:13 The Stories of Artists Who Walked Away

15:17 The Journey of Creative Expression

18:14 The Struggles of Life on the Road

21:14 Reflections on Success and Artistic Integrity

24:57 The Artistic Struggle: Balancing Hits and Authenticity

28:05 Finding Purpose in Creation: A Christian Perspective

28:55 Inspiration as the True Reward

30:49 The Influence of Parental Expectations on Creativity

33:00 Hope Amidst Struggles: A Christian's Journey

34:11 What Works? The Dangers of Following Formulas

36:08 The Price of Fame: Lessons from Adam Duritz

40:10 Chasing Dreams: The Reality of Success

42:22 The Burden of Fame: A Reflection on Jesus

48:47 Creating for Joy: The Uplifting Message

Rachel is the founder of Sparrow, a non-profit that exists to help women learn their gifts, talents, and passions through connecting with content, collaborating with community, and catalyzing into calling. 

Rachel shared how one of her favorite and most formative memories is the safe place her grandmother provided for her to create. This led to Rachel wanting to create that same space for others, which helped launch Sparrow years later.

We talk about seeing people well with great questions, the long journey of making and sharing Sparrow, the Father’s delight in creating, the mark of a great leader, and much more.

Listen through your favorite podcast app and watch on YouTube.

Links From The Show:

Sparrow Collective

Sparrow and Co.

Sparrow On Main

S Coaching

Produced by Lauren Chandler, Steven Cooper, and Kent Rabalais

Music by Steven Cooper

Edited by Kent Rabalais

Chapters

00:00 Bumper 

00:38 Welcome

02:09 What’s Your Favorite Cheat Meal?

06:42 The Power Of A Safe Place To Create

09:13 Seeing And Knowing People With Great Questions

15:00 Big Dreams And Bold Faith 

16:59 Creating A Welcoming Place To Catalyze Identify, Gifting, And Purpose 

18:18 Retail Is Hard But This One Is Unique And Rewarding

20:27 Launching S Coaching

21:49 The Long Journey Of Making And Sharing

22:36 The Father’s Delight In Creating

23:10 Creativity Meets Courage And Community With Sparrow

26:14 The Mark Of A Great Leader: Empowering Others

34:39 Big Things Start Small And Take A Long Time To Grow

39:38 It’s Impossible To Grow Without Help

44:54 Sharing Takes Courage

49:02 The Great Tradeoff Of Making And Sharing In A Creator’s Economy