Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0TSyyEp6IiA4PwbhtOJerC?si=1be59173abe84e14

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@spencerwhiteout/

Space Waves:

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXBjwJ9Z_g&t=3193s

Buy // Support - https://linktr.ee/spacewavesfilm

Beast Mode (The Making of Space Waves) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu3RO0nIHy8&t=522s

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/spencer_whiteout/

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What happens when your faith, creativity, and ambition collide?

In this episode of Creative Chapel, Chris sits down with filmmaker and podcaster Spencer Whiteout for a wide-ranging conversation about growing up Christian, discovering filmmaking through skateboarding, serving overseas, navigating forgiveness, and building an independent creative career.

Spencer shares how a difficult friendship breakup during a ministry trip to China ultimately inspired his feature film Space Waves, a story about friendship, bitterness, forgiveness, and growing up. He also opens up about making a feature film with a small crew, limited resources, prayer, and a roughly $50,000 budget—and why he believes independent creators don't have to wait for Hollywood to give them permission to tell their stories.

The conversation also explores the tension between being bold about your faith and being wise about what you share, navigating cancel culture, creating Christian art that reaches beyond the traditional Christian audience, and the importance of developing your craft without compromising your convictions.

Spencer also reveals his vision for building a connected Whiteout Cinematic Universe, shares what is inspiring him creatively right now, and reflects on the lessons he's learned from five years of podcasting.

Shoutout to this episode's sponsor, The Printing Ox — preorder the new Creative Chapel shirt (Revelation 4:11 design) linked below.

Timestamps:
0:00 – Cold open: the core questions of this episode
0:45 – Trying the solo format again
1:26 – The common claim: art as an evangelism tool
2:26 – Critiquing the "Trojan horse for the gospel" framing
3:19 – Why forcing art into apologetics feels inauthentic
6:27 – Reading Francis Schaeffer's quote from Art in the Bible
7:14 – 1 Corinthians 3:6: Paul, Apollos, and God bringing the growth
8:17 – The K-pop Demon Hunters example
9:23 – Early-listener subscribe ask
9:40 – Evangelism as a process: seeds, watering, growth
11:02 – Jesus's parables as worldview storytelling
12:24 – Ephesians 4:11: apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers
13:24 – Critiquing five-fold ministry "personality test" culture
15:16 – What if an artist were called to be a prophet or pastor?
16:04 – Can artwork itself be pastoral, apostolic, or prophetic?
17:01 – Printing Ox sponsor shoutout
18:15 – A quick summary of the gospel itself
18:50 – Ministering to needs beyond a strict gospel message
20:05 – Referencing Forrest Frank's Dawn Patrol
20:54 – Art as therapy & the value of unseen work
21:02 – Creating for an audience of one
22:37 – Encouragement: your work matters, even if it's not evangelism
24:37 – What's inspiring Chris: Keith & Chance the Rapper's new song
25:18 – Shoutout to Josh Nadeau / Sword and Pencil
26:34 – Creative Chapel Instagram DM shoutout
27:01 – Outro & Communion Church shoutout

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From there, the conversation shifts into the craft of coffee itself — origins, processing, roasting science — and what it looks like to run a faith-forward business in a industry that doesn't always welcome it.

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They cover the economics behind formulaic Christian movies, the concept of artists as "border stalkers," why you can't get to Easter without Good Friday, and how a new generation of YouTuber-filmmakers (Backrooms, Obsession, Iron Lung) is reshaping the industry from the outside in.

Shoutout to this episode's sponsor, The Printing Ox — preorder the new Creative Chapel shirt linked below.

They dig into what it means to be a "border stalker" as a Christian creative — staying present in spaces that need light instead of retreating from them — the burnout that can come from working in church media, and why God cares more about your participation than your perfection. Chris also shares what's currently inspiring his own creative work, from A24 films to a psychiatrist's take on dopamine and the theology of work.

If you're a creative trying to figure out how faith and career actually fit together, this conversation is packed with hard-won insight.

Check out Chris's resource for creatives, Church Film School — link below. Follow Chris at his commercial site, chrisfrancis.tv, and on Instagram @_francois.

In this episode of Creative Chapel Podcast, Chris Mac sits down with Christian actress and entrepreneur Venus Monique to talk about navigating the entertainment industry while staying rooted in Christ.

From working on faith-based productions—including projects connected to Angel Studios—to building a thriving acting career and mentoring other Christian performers, this conversation is full of practical wisdom for actors, filmmakers, musicians, writers, producers, and creatives who want to honor God through their craft.

Whether you're dreaming of acting professionally, creating films, writing stories, producing music, or building a creative business, this episode offers biblical encouragement alongside real-world career advice.

In this episode, you'll learn:

• How to become a successful actor
• What it's really like working on Christian film productions
• Faith and Hollywood: myth vs. reality
• Why Christian creatives need community
• Acting tips for beginners
• The business side of acting
• How to find your calling as a creative
• Building a creative career without compromising your faith
• Entrepreneurship for Christian artists
• Following God's purpose in entertainment

If you're a Christian musician, actor, filmmaker, content creator, entrepreneur, or artist between 18–40, this conversation will encourage you to pursue excellence while keeping Christ at the center of everything you create.

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Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to Creative Chapel
01:30 – Meet today's guest
04:00 – Breaking into acting and filmmaking
09:30 – Faith in Hollywood: What people get wrong
15:30 – Can Christians work in secular entertainment?
22:00 – Why acting is more than pretending
30:00 – Finding your calling as a creative
37:00 – Entrepreneurship for Christian artists
46:00 – Building community for Christian actors
50:00 – The business side of acting
56:00 – Practical advice for aspiring actors
1:01:00 – Final encouragement for Christian creatives

In this episode of Creative Chapel Podcast, filmmaker Nathan Presley joins Chris Mack for a deep conversation about faith, filmmaking, creativity, and what it means to pursue artistic excellence while following Jesus.

Nathan shares his journey from feeling called to filmmaking at a young age, battling fear and creative paralysis, producing award-winning films, and learning that the best Christian art doesn't begin with trying to preach—it begins with abiding in Christ.

Whether you're a Christian musician, filmmaker, producer, songwriter, visual artist, writer, content creator, or entrepreneur, this conversation will challenge the way you think about creativity, calling, and excellence.

Together they discuss:

• How to overcome creative fear and perfectionism
• Why Christian creatives often struggle with identity
• The difference between creating for God vs. creating with God
• Should every Christian artist make explicitly Christian art?
• How faith naturally shapes great storytelling
• Lies Christian creatives often believe
• Breaking free from legalism and unhealthy church culture
• Creativity, conviction, and following the Holy Spirit
• Making meaningful films that reach mainstream audiences
• Building a creative career while keeping Christ at the center

If you've ever wondered how to balance faith, ambition, artistic excellence, and business, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and biblical encouragement.

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Chapters

00:00 – Welcome & Meet Nathan Presley
02:30 – Nathan's testimony and calling to filmmaking
09:30 – Surrendering dreams and trusting God
13:30 – Creating with God instead of for God
18:00 – Bringing God into the creative process
22:00 – Faith, storytelling, and meaningful films
32:00 – Why great Christian art starts with abiding in Christ
36:00 – Convictions, creativity, and the Holy Spirit
44:00 – Church culture, legalism, and personal convictions
49:00 – Overcoming fear, perfectionism & creative paralysis
50:30 – Things Christian creatives need to outgrow
56:00 – Christian art vs. "Christian" art
1:02:00 – Nathan's upcoming projects & resources
1:03:30 – Final encouragement for Christian creatives

In the very first episode of Creative Chapel Podcast, Chris Mac sits down with producer, artist, engineer, and songwriter Miguel Avila to unpack his journey from making beats in his bedroom to producing music for TV & Film, working alongside artists connected to Reach Records, and discovering what it really means to operate in God's calling.

This conversation is packed with practical advice for Christian musicians, producers, rappers, worship leaders, songwriters, and creatives who want to honor God while building a sustainable creative career.

Miguel shares hilarious tour stories, lessons from failure, his testimony of faith, how God led him through depression and uncertainty, why serving in the local church matters, and how obedience opened doors into the music industry—including placements with major brands and networks.

If you're a Christian creative between 18–40 trying to balance faith, purpose, music, and career, this episode is for you.

In this episode you'll learn:

• How to discover your God-given calling
• Why serving comes before success
• Lessons from building a Christian hip-hop career
• Music production advice for independent artists
• How TV & Film sync placements work
• What it takes to work with major Christian artists
• Why humility opens more doors than self-promotion
• Finding purpose beyond performance
• Growing as a Christian musician in today's industry

Whether you're making beats, writing songs, leading worship, producing music, filming videos, or simply trying to follow God's direction in your creative life, you'll leave encouraged and challenged.

Subscribe for weekly conversations helping Christian creatives build excellent careers without compromising their faith.

Chapters

00:00 – Welcome to the Creative Chapel Podcast
00:40 – Meet Miguel Avila
01:30 – From church beats to TV & Film production
02:35 – Embarrassing beginner music stories
04:10 – How Flight School started
06:00 – Funny tour stories & life on the road
10:30 – Miguel's faith testimony
16:15 – Discovering God's calling through music
20:15 – From performer to teacher
23:00 – Should every Christian creative work in church ministry?
29:00 – Learning through serving in the local church
31:00 – TV & Film placements and career growth
34:30 – Operating in the gifts God gave you
38:00 – Humility, opportunities & industry relationships
41:00 – Depression, obedience & moving to Atlanta
52:30 – Working with Reach Records artists
58:00 – Breaking into the Christian music industry (continues)

We want to be the place for finding Christian artists to be inspired by. Platforming new talent and voices that are pursuing God with their giftings and advancing the Kingdom. Tune in weekly to discover your next favorite Christian creative, maybe one day you'll be here yourself!