During a recent United Methodist Church leadership gathering in Calgary, Canada, I found myself sitting in the front row of a drag show alongside more than ten pastors and religious leaders from around the world.

When the host discovered who we were, I wasn't sure how the room would respond.

What happened next was something I never expected, and it challenged my understanding of Christian hospitality, LGBTQ+ inclusion, and where we encounter the presence of God.

In this personal episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, I share an experience that left me wrestling with a question I believe every church should ask:

Can our churches be as welcoming as a gay bar?

As a gay Christian serving in ministry, I know what it means to love the church while also carrying wounds inflicted by it. For generations, LGBTQ+ people have experienced rejection, condemnation, and exclusion in the name of Christianity. Yet the teachings of Jesus continually call us toward radical love, grace, and belonging.

So what might the church learn from the very communities it has too often pushed to the margins?

In this episode, we explore:

• What happened when a drag show host discovered a group of religious leaders in the audience
• The complicated relationship between LGBTQ+ people and Christianity
• What Jesus taught about welcoming outsiders and those pushed to the margins
• Why genuine Christian hospitality requires more than saying "everyone is welcome"
• How the Holy Spirit might be moving beyond the walls of our churches
• What The United Methodist Church and Christianity more broadly can learn about belonging, grace, and sacred worth

This isn't simply a story about a drag queen or a gay bar. It's a reflection on what it means to follow Jesus, love our neighbors, and recognize the image of God in every person.

Perhaps the future of the church begins not with convincing more people to come through our doors, but with our willingness to walk through theirs.

Where do you think the church has the most to learn about welcoming others? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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In this episode of The Inclusive Faith, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal respond to the United States government’s plan to livestream a military execution and a failed execution in Tennessee. These headlines open a deeper conversation about capital punishment, the sacredness of human life, and what it means to follow Jesus when mercy is difficult.

Where does justice end and revenge begin? Can we forgive someone while still holding them accountable? And does believing that every life is sacred include people who have committed terrible crimes?

Together, Kade and Greg explore biblical arguments surrounding the death penalty, the United Methodist Church’s opposition to it, and the relationship between justice, mercy, and grace. They acknowledge the grief of victims’ families while asking whether taking another life can ever bring the healing we seek.

Join us for an honest conversation about punishment, redemption, and the limits we place on compassion.

How does your faith shape your views on the death penalty? Share your perspective respectfully in the comments.

The Inclusive Faith is an LGBTQ+ affirming Christian podcast hosted by Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal. Through honest conversations about progressive Christianity, biblical interpretation, faith and doubt, social justice, and LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church, we explore a faith rooted in the love and grace of Jesus. Whether you’re navigating faith deconstruction, healing from church hurt, or wondering if you can be LGBTQ+ and Christian, there’s room for you here.

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In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, hosts Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal have an honest conversation about spirituality, organized religion, church hurt, and finding a faith community where you can belong without hiding who you are.

As LGBTQ+ Christian leaders, we understand why conditional welcome, religious manipulation, and broken promises have led people to step away from church. We explore what religious institutions need to take responsibility for, how community can support spiritual growth, and why churches need to care more about people than attendance numbers.

We also share practical ways to explore an affirming church, look beyond “all are welcome,” and recognize when it’s time to leave a congregation that no longer supports your spiritual well-being.

Whether you’re questioning Christianity, navigating faith deconstruction, seeking an LGBTQ+ affirming church, or exploring spirituality outside organized religion, you’re welcome in this conversation.

Explore more episodes and resources for inclusive Christianity, LGBTQ+ affirmation, and spiritual community at https://theinclusivefaith.com.

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In this special episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade welcomes our very first guest co-host, Chloe, one of his three dogs, for a heartfelt reflection on faith, the love we share with our pets, and what it really means to come home.

Having grown up with dogs, Kade knows there's something extraordinary about the way they welcome us. No matter how difficult the day has been, what mistakes we've made, or how long we've been away, they're simply happy we're home.

That experience brings to mind the Parable of the Prodigal Son in Luke 15. Jesus tells the story of a father who sees his son returning from a distance and runs to embrace him before he can even finish his apology. It's a beautiful picture of God's grace and a reminder that we don't have to earn our way back into God's love.

But what does that kind of unconditional welcome mean for our churches and our relationships? How can we create Christian communities where everyone, including LGBTQ+ people who have experienced rejection or conditional acceptance, knows they genuinely belong?

In this episode, Kade explores the connection between our love for dogs and the Christian understanding of grace, reflecting on the joy of everyday homecomings, the heartbreak of knowing our pets won't be with us forever, and the invitation to become people who make others feel at home.

Whether you're a lifelong dog lover, exploring your faith, or searching for an inclusive Christian community, this episode is a reminder that you are loved, you belong, and God's arms are always open.

Scripture: Luke 15:11–32, the Parable of the Prodigal Son.

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In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal look beyond pearly gates, clouds, harps, and other popular images of heaven. They explore where those ideas came from, what Scripture says about resurrection and eternity, and why faith does not always require certainty about what comes next.

Kade shares honestly about growing up without the assurance that heaven was real and how he eventually found peace in not knowing. Greg reflects on his belief that death does not have the final word, God’s love will not let us go, and heaven may be far more inclusive than many Christians have been taught.

Along the way, they discuss universalism, whether our beloved pets will be with us, the lasting power of love, and what it means to bring heaven into the here and now.

Perhaps heaven is not simply a reward waiting at the end of life. Perhaps eternity has already begun.

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In this deeply personal episode of Faith in 10, Dr. Gregory S. Neal shares his experience inside a religious conversion therapy program, where he was taught to repeat the words, “I am an abomination,” until shame became inseparable from his understanding of himself and God.

Greg reflects on the lasting spiritual and emotional wounds of conversion therapy, the dangerous ways shame can be mistaken for the voice of God, and the truth that finally helped him begin to heal: he did not need to become someone else to be loved by God.

Conversion therapy promised freedom through changing who he was. The gospel offered something infinitely better: the freedom to stand before God without disguise, apology, or fear.

God’s grace is sufficient. For Greg, for us, and for you.

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Content note: This episode includes personal accounts of conversion therapy, religious trauma, and anti-LGBTQ+ language.

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal ask a question many Christians are afraid to voice: What if everything we have been taught about hell is wrong?

Together, they explore what the Bible actually says about hell, Jesus’ references to Gehenna, the influence of Dante’s Inferno, and the development of belief in eternal punishment. They also examine Christian annihilationism, universal salvation, and whether the limitless grace of God could ultimately include everyone.

For many LGBTQ+ Christians, hell has been more than a theological idea. It has been used as a weapon to frighten, shame, and control them. Greg shares how the threat of hell was used against him growing up, while Kade reflects on why a Christianity centered on escaping punishment never made sense to him.

Can a faith built on fear truly be faith? Does God’s grace end when we die? If God never gives up on us, could love and reconciliation remain possible beyond this life?

Join us for an honest, theological, personal, and occasionally humorous conversation about hell, death, fear, LGBTQ+ inclusion, universal salvation, and the grace of a God who never gives up on us.

The Inclusive Faith Podcast is hosted by Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal, a married gay Christian couple exploring faith, the Bible, church, marriage, and LGBTQ+ inclusion.

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In this Faith in 10 episode, Dr. Greg Neal examines the question Jesus was actually answering, what Genesis says about human companionship, and why these passages may offer a strong biblical case for same-sex marriage. Rather than condemning LGBTQ+ relationships, Scripture calls us to take covenant, fidelity, mutual care, and self-giving love seriously.

Jesus never condemned same-sex marriage. Perhaps the better question is not whether every marriage looks exactly like Adam and Eve, but whether two people have become faithful covenant partners who reflect the grace of God in their life together.

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In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, gay pastor Dr. Gregory S. Neal and his husband, Kade Rogers, share an honest conversation about LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church, the challenges of being a gay Christian leader, and their experiences serving together in ministry.

Greg and Kade discuss the pressure LGBTQ+ clergy face to represent an entire community, the criticism that often accompanies public advocacy, and the lasting impact of religious trauma and church rejection. They also reflect on what it means to lead an LGBTQ-affirming church, navigate disagreements within a congregation, and remain faithful to a calling when others question whether someone can be both gay and Christian.

Beyond the pulpit, they offer a glimpse into their everyday lives as a married gay couple in ministry, including the self-doubt, vulnerability, humor, and hope that shape their journey.

Whether you are an LGBTQ+ Christian, an affirming ally, someone healing from religious trauma, or simply curious about the experiences of queer people in the church, this conversation is for you.

Listen to The Inclusive Faith Podcast for honest conversations about Christianity, LGBTQ+ inclusion, affirming theology, progressive faith, and finding belonging in the church.

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Most of us live as though there will always be more time. We will make the phone call later, have the difficult conversation when the timing feels right, and tell people how much they mean to us the next time we see them.

But tomorrow is not promised.

In this personal Faith in 10 reflection, Kade considers what Psalm 90 means when it asks God to “teach us to number our days.” This is not an invitation to live in fear. It is an invitation to be present, love more intentionally, and say what matters while we still have the opportunity.

We cannot control how much time we receive, but we can decide how honestly and lovingly we live the day in front of us.

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In Part Two of our conversation about the Bible and homosexuality, Kade and Greg examine the three New Testament passages most often used to condemn LGBTQ+ people: 1 Corinthians 6:9–11, 1 Timothy 1:8–11, and Romans 1:20–27.

Together, they explore the Greek words malakoi and arsenokoitai, the cultural world in which these passages were written, and the translation choices that have shaped how Christians understand them. They also discuss why the word “homosexual” did not appear in an English Bible until 1946 and why that modern term does not accurately reflect the language or relationships being addressed in these ancient texts.

What did Paul mean by “natural” and “unnatural”? Does Romans 1 describe LGBTQ+ Christians today? And what does it mean that Jesus said nothing about homosexuality?

These passages have been mistranslated, misinterpreted, and used as weapons against LGBTQ+ people for generations. This episode asks us to read them more carefully, confront the harm they have caused, and recognize the beautiful diversity of people made in the image of God.

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What does the Bible really say about homosexuality and LGBTQ+ people?

For generations, a small group of Bible verses has been used to condemn, exclude, and harm LGBTQ+ people. Often called the “clobber passages,” these scriptures are frequently presented as clear proof that the Bible rejects same-sex relationships. But is that what they actually mean in their original context?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal examine the three Old Testament passages most often used in conversations about the Bible and homosexuality: Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, and Leviticus 20:13.

Together, they discuss:

• What the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is actually about
• Why sexual violence is not the same as a loving same-sex relationship
• How the historical and cultural context of Leviticus changes the conversation
• Why the original Hebrew wording matters
• How Bible translations can shape Christian beliefs about homosexuality
• The harm caused when Scripture is weaponized against LGBTQ+ people
• Greg’s experience of hearing these passages used during conversion therapy

This episode does not ignore difficult Bible verses. It examines them closely, asks what they meant to their original audiences, and considers whether they can honestly be applied to loving, mutual, and committed LGBTQ+ relationships today.

This is Part 1 of a two-part series on the Bible and homosexuality. Part 2 will examine the New Testament “clobber passages.”

The Inclusive Faith Podcast explores LGBTQ+ Christianity, affirming theology, biblical interpretation, church inclusion, and what it means to build a faith where everyone truly belongs.

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In this Faith in 10, Dr. Gregory S. Neal examines how fear is used as a tool of religious control and how self-appointed gatekeepers claim the authority to decide who belongs to Christ.

But fear, threats, and exclusion are not the fruit of the Spirit.

The gospel is not built on terror, shame, or perfect theology. It is built on grace. Jesus repeatedly crossed religious boundaries, welcomed those others excluded, and challenged leaders who burdened people while claiming to control access to God.

Your questions do not scare God. Your doubts do not disqualify you. Your identity does not separate you from the love of Christ. The gatekeepers do not have the final word.

Jesus does.

The Inclusive Faith Podcast is hosted by Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal. Faith in 10 is our bonus series offering brief reflections on faith, Scripture, inclusion, and the church.

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In this episode of The Inclusive Faith, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal examine the popular belief that Christians will suddenly disappear while everyone else is left behind. They explore where modern rapture theology came from, whether it is actually supported by Scripture, and how fear about the end times has been used to control people, raise money, and determine who is supposedly saved.

There is plenty of humor along the way, but beneath it is a serious question: What happens when Christianity becomes centered on fear?

Rather than living in anxiety about missing the rapture, Kade and Greg invite us to return to the heart of the gospel: loving God, loving our neighbors, and living faithfully in the world here and now.

Is the rapture biblical truth or a modern invention?

Let’s talk about it.

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In this Faith in Ten episode, Greg reflects on the way queer love is often stripped of its humanity and reduced to sexual stereotypes. But the biblical story of companionship does not begin with sex. In Genesis 2, God identifies isolation as the first human problem: “It is not good that the human should be alone.”

Marriage and committed relationships are about companionship, covenant, faithfulness, sacrifice, joy, grief, family, prayer, and choosing one another again and again. LGBTQ relationships contain that same ordinary and sacred love.

Greg challenges Christians to examine whether their reaction to queer relationships truly comes from the Holy Spirit or from fear, inherited prejudice, tradition, and discomfort. Because discomfort is not automatically discernment, and cruelty does not become Christlike simply because it is wrapped in religious language.

Faith in Ten is a bonus series from The Inclusive Faith Podcast featuring brief reflections on faith, inclusion, and life.

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In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade and Greg talk about biblical literalism, Bible interpretation, and why faithful reading of Scripture requires context, humility, history, and honesty. They discuss the harm that can come when the Bible is flattened into one rigid way of reading, especially for people who have experienced religious trauma, church hurt, or Christian deconstruction.

Kade reflects on being taught stories like Noah’s Ark as literal history and how that created barriers in his faith journey. Greg shares why the Bible has been interpreted in many ways throughout Christian history and why genre, context, symbolism, metaphor, and story all matter. The episode also explores Genesis 1 and 2, the Psalms, the parables of Jesus, science and faith, and what it means for progressive Christians and LGBTQ affirming Christians to take the Bible seriously.

For anyone who has ever wondered, “Does the Bible really say that?” or “Can I question the Bible and still be Christian?” this episode is for you.

In this Faith in 10 episode from The Inclusive Faith, Kade Rogers talks about the comments we receive online as LGBTQ-affirming Christians. Some are beautiful. Some remind us why this work matters. And some sound a lot less like the love of Jesus and a lot more like judgment with a Bible verse attached.

From “I love you, but…” to “show me where Jesus affirmed homosexuality,” this episode uses humor and honesty to name what so many LGBTQ Christians already know: the loudest voices online do not get the final word on your belovedness.

For every angry comment, there is usually someone quietly reading who still loves God but is afraid God does not love them back.

This episode is for that person.

You are not a debate topic.
You are not a threat to the gospel.
You are beloved by God.

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Let’s talk about it.

Greg shares the story of being outed as a young person, being told that being gay separated him from God, and being sent into a conversion therapy program that used shame, fear, Scripture, and aversion practices in an attempt to change him.

Together, Kade and Greg talk about the lasting harm of conversion therapy, religious trauma, spiritual abuse, and church harm. They also reflect on the faith and love that helped Greg survive, including the powerful support of his great Aunt Witchy, who reminded him that God loved him exactly as he was.

This episode is a difficult but necessary conversation about why conversion therapy is harmful, why LGBTQ+ people do not need to be fixed, and why faith should never be used as a weapon against someone’s identity.

Content note: This episode includes discussion of conversion therapy, religious trauma, emotional abuse, aversion therapy, suicidal ideation, and church harm.

And in all of it, he encountered the presence of God.

Faith in 10 is a new bonus series from The Inclusive Faith Podcast featuring short, focused reflections on faith, inclusion, and life—usually in 10 minutes or less.

In this first episode, Greg reflects on why Pride is not about arrogance or rebellion against God. At its best, Pride is about refusing to be ashamed of who God created us to be. It is a celebration of the truth that LGBTQ+ people are loved, wonderfully made, and fully included in the grace and calling of God.

Greg also shares a moment he will not soon forget. A young transgender person approached him at the booth, saw his “This Queer Pastor Loves You” shirt, and asked whether they could ever become a pastor someday.

His answer was simple: absolutely.

This episode is a reminder that affirming churches matter, public witness matters, and LGBTQ+ people should never have to choose between being fully themselves and responding to God’s call.

In this episode:

• Why Christians should not misunderstand Pride
• Where Greg encountered God at PrideFest
• Why affirming churches need to show up publicly
• What a transgender young person asked Greg
• Why LGBTQ+ people are not outside God’s love or calling
• What it means to be “queerfully and wonderfully made”

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That is a question we get asked often. Why stay in ministry? Why stay Christian? Why remain connected to a church or denomination that caused real harm?

In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade and Greg talk honestly about calling, church hurt, fear, loss, hope, and the complicated reasons they did not walk away. Greg reflects on more than three decades of ministry, the cost of hiding his sexuality, the fear of losing his credentials, and the deep sense of calling that never went away. Kade shares what it was like to believe in the possibility of an inclusive church, only to experience rejection, threats, and the loss of a former career path.

Together, they also talk about the good that still keeps them rooted: people being fed, families receiving care, LGBTQ people hearing that they are loved by God, and the deep belief that the way of Jesus is still worth following.

This is not an episode about pretending the harm did not happen. It is about why harm did not get the final word.

In this episode:

• Why ministry is more than just a job
• The cost of staying closeted
• Why denominational change came far too late
• What it meant to receive threats after coming out
• Why local churches can still be places of healing
• Why we still believe in the way of Jesus
• What inclusive faith means to us

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In episode two of Inclusive Faith Podcast, we share more of our story.

How we met. How our relationship grew. And how the church made something beautiful feel complicated, painful, and harder than it ever needed to be.

This conversation is personal, but it is not just about us.

It is about what happens when people are forced to fight for their own dignity in spaces that should have offered love, safety, and belonging.

It is also about healing, reclaiming your voice, and refusing to let other people define your story.

For anyone who has been hurt by the church, questioned where they fit, or had to claw their way back to themselves, we hope this conversation reminds you that you are not alone.

Let’s talk about it.

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In the first episode of Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal introduce the heart behind the podcast and why these conversations matter.

After years of talking honestly about faith, identity, church hurt, inclusion, and what it means to belong, Kade and Greg are inviting others into the conversation. This episode shares why the podcast exists, who it is for, and what listeners can expect from Season 1.

Whether you have been hurt by the church, are trying to hold onto faith, are questioning what you believe, or simply want a more honest and inclusive conversation about Christianity, this podcast is for you.

Inclusive Faith is not about having all the answers. It is about making space for real conversations about faith, life, healing, and belonging.

Let’s talk about it.

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This is a space for honest conversations about faith, life, and everything in between. Hosted by Greg and Kade, a married gay couple shaped by years of lived experience in church and ministry, this podcast explores the questions many people carry but don’t always feel safe to ask out loud.

If you’ve ever wrestled with belief, identity, or where you belong, you’re not alone.

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