<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Beyond the Slop: AI in the Non-Profit Sector]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>"Beyond the Slop" is a weekly podcast for charity and nonprofit people who are interested in how to use AI meaningfully. <br /><br />Hosts Craig and Anna cut through the slop and the hype to show how AI really works across your whole charity.<br /><br />We'll share the tools we use, some examples of best practice from the sector, and be honest about when AI goes wrong.</p>]]></description><link>threadfundraising.com</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2026 22:50:47 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/8p4uXywp.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Anna Hessenbruch & Craig Linton]]></author><pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 11:34:54 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Anna Hessenbruch & Craig Linton]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Non-Profit]]></category><category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category><itunes:author>Anna Hessenbruch &amp; Craig Linton</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Beyond the Slop&quot; is a weekly podcast for charity and nonprofit people who are interested in how to use AI meaningfully. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hosts Craig and Anna cut through the slop and the hype to show how AI really works across your whole charity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We&apos;ll share the tools we use, some examples of best practice from the sector, and be honest about when AI goes wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Anna Hessenbruch &amp; Craig Linton</itunes:name><itunes:email>craig@threadfundraising.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Non-Profit"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Technology"/><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/logos/44124752-194d-4aa9-a1e5-0968ae46e982.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[Episode 2: AI fraud, dashboards, supporter care bots, and agents.]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Craig Linton and Anna Hessenbruch on what they've been building: charity dashboards from publicly available data, an email bot with a human still in the loop, and voice AI that translates in real time. Then the bigger question of what AI agents mean for entry-level jobs, and an Oops AI Did It Again about AI-generated charity appeals and what they do to public trust.</p><ul><li>00:00 Welcome, and what's coming up</li><li>00:56 Building charity dashboards from publicly available data</li><li>02:11 The free UK government API catalogue</li><li>03:43 The national fish population database, and a pun Anna immediately regrets</li><li>04:34 Craig's first email response bot, and why a human still checks every reply</li><li>05:34 Voice-to-voice translation in about 90 languages, and where it still trips up</li><li>06:41 Disclosing you're talking to a bot, and why bots earned their bad reputation</li><li>07:38 When AI can't understand a Yorkshire accent</li><li>08:15 AI agents you can delegate to, and why IT teams get nervous</li><li>11:05 What agents doing junior admin work mean for the jobs pipeline</li><li>12:12 Oops AI Did It Again: AI-generated charity appeals and the trust problem</li><li>13:59 Why giving is drifting from institutions to individual faces online</li><li>18:12 Regulation, and not throwing the baby out with the bathwater</li><li>18:48 Coming up: the big AI debate</li></ul><h3>Mentioned in this episode</h3><ul><li><b>UK government API Catalogue.</b> The public sector API directory Craig recommends, covering DWP, DVLA, the Office for National Statistics, the British Geological Survey and more: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://api.gov.uk" target="_blank">api.gov.uk</a>. Each API carries its own licensing and access terms, so check before you build.</li><li><b>The AI GP receptionist that struggles with Yorkshire accents.</b> Craig said on air he'd dig this out for the show notes. Healthwatch Rotherham raised concerns that EMMA, an AI phone receptionist used by GP surgeries, could not reliably understand broad Yorkshire accents or speech affected by an impediment, with some patients giving up and walking in instead: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.silicon.co.uk/cloud/ai/ai-gp-receptionist-631237" target="_blank">Silicon UK</a>. It was GP surgeries rather than a council.</li><li><b>Make.</b> The automation platform Craig and Anna both use: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://make.com" target="_blank">make.com</a>. Its AI agents were <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.make.com/en/make-ai-agents-press-release" target="_blank">announced in April 2025</a>, and its plain-English building assistant is called Maia. There is a generous free non-profit plan.</li><li><b>The Lily Jay Foundation investigation.</b> ABC News Verify in Australia reported finding AI-generated elements in charity videos posted by influencer Lily Jay, and could not verify the orphanage in Uganda: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-05/lily-jay-foundation-posts-ai-generated-misleading-videos/106866422" target="_blank">ABC News Verify</a>. The foundation has since responded, saying AI appeared only in a small number of introductory clips and denying that it fabricated projects or aid deliveries: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.newarab.com/news/lily-jay-responds-after-report-ai-generated-charity-videos" target="_blank">The New Arab</a>.</li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">0c0cd0b0-f286-46bb-8519-ac4da4c02d97</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna Hessenbruch & Craig Linton]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:34:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/772afa33951e7db014f0bb4281138d1dd4888694f1718697d1c81ea908186f3c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwYzBjZDBiMC1mMjg2LTQ2YmItODUxOS1hYzRkYTRjMDJkOTciLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4Yzk5YWRhYS05ZTE3LTQ4MTAtOTIwNy05YzkyNzAyNDA3NmEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTRiYzk4OTVjNDdiNTExYWRjOGQ2NDMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE4ODI2N2RjNTI4ZGU0ZGM4ZDgxZmY3L2NyYWlnLWxpbnRvbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtOC0yMV9fMTItMjAtNDUubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="9640873" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/episodes/0c0cd0b0-f286-46bb-8519-ac4da4c02d97/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Craig Linton and Anna Hessenbruch on what they&apos;ve been building: charity dashboards from publicly available data, an email bot with a human still in the loop, and voice AI that translates in real time. Then the bigger question of what AI agents mean for entry-level jobs, and an Oops AI Did It Again about AI-generated charity appeals and what they do to public trust.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;00:00 Welcome, and what&apos;s coming up&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;00:56 Building charity dashboards from publicly available data&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;02:11 The free UK government API catalogue&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;03:43 The national fish population database, and a pun Anna immediately regrets&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;04:34 Craig&apos;s first email response bot, and why a human still checks every reply&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;05:34 Voice-to-voice translation in about 90 languages, and where it still trips up&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;06:41 Disclosing you&apos;re talking to a bot, and why bots earned their bad reputation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;07:38 When AI can&apos;t understand a Yorkshire accent&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;08:15 AI agents you can delegate to, and why IT teams get nervous&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;11:05 What agents doing junior admin work mean for the jobs pipeline&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;12:12 Oops AI Did It Again: AI-generated charity appeals and the trust problem&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;13:59 Why giving is drifting from institutions to individual faces online&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;18:12 Regulation, and not throwing the baby out with the bathwater&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;18:48 Coming up: the big AI debate&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Mentioned in this episode&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;UK government API Catalogue.&lt;/b&gt; The public sector API directory Craig recommends, covering DWP, DVLA, the Office for National Statistics, the British Geological Survey and more: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://api.gov.uk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;api.gov.uk&lt;/a&gt;. Each API carries its own licensing and access terms, so check before you build.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;The AI GP receptionist that struggles with Yorkshire accents.&lt;/b&gt; Craig said on air he&apos;d dig this out for the show notes. Healthwatch Rotherham raised concerns that EMMA, an AI phone receptionist used by GP surgeries, could not reliably understand broad Yorkshire accents or speech affected by an impediment, with some patients giving up and walking in instead: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.silicon.co.uk/cloud/ai/ai-gp-receptionist-631237&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Silicon UK&lt;/a&gt;. It was GP surgeries rather than a council.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Make.&lt;/b&gt; The automation platform Craig and Anna both use: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://make.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;make.com&lt;/a&gt;. Its AI agents were &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.make.com/en/make-ai-agents-press-release&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;announced in April 2025&lt;/a&gt;, and its plain-English building assistant is called Maia. There is a generous free non-profit plan.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Lily Jay Foundation investigation.&lt;/b&gt; ABC News Verify in Australia reported finding AI-generated elements in charity videos posted by influencer Lily Jay, and could not verify the orphanage in Uganda: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-05/lily-jay-foundation-posts-ai-generated-misleading-videos/106866422&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;ABC News Verify&lt;/a&gt;. The foundation has since responded, saying AI appeared only in a small number of introductory clips and denying that it fabricated projects or aid deliveries: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.newarab.com/news/lily-jay-responds-after-report-ai-generated-charity-videos&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The New Arab&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:20:05</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/logos/44124752-194d-4aa9-a1e5-0968ae46e982.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Episode 2: AI fraud, dashboards, supporter care bots, and agents.</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Episode 1: Covering the basics]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Craig &amp; Anna go back to basics. What's the difference between the AI companies, the tools you type into, and the models underneath? What is a token?</p><ul><li>00:00 Welcome</li><li>01:40 What we've been building: Anna's holiday vibe coding and a homemade family planner app</li><li>04:34 Craig's fundraising brain: 20 years of articles, talks and his own book, made searchable</li><li>09:17 Back to basics: companies, interfaces and models</li><li>10:06 The chef who read every cookbook but never tasted food</li><li>11:44 Why the model matters, and the exponential curve in expert hours</li><li>14:04 The otter test &amp; Will Smith eating spaghetti</li><li>15:13 Tokens, context windows, and why five Harry Potter books is a useful yardstick</li><li>16:48 What are your tokens actually costing you? Nobody quite knows</li><li>19:14 Full disclosure: we're AI enthusiasts, but we're not blind to the problems</li><li>19:53 Oops AI Did It Again: Deloitte and KPMG get caught not checking their AI</li><li>21:44 The new EU AI Act rules: watermarking, manipulation and the social scoring ban</li><li>24:44 Why the sector's GDPR overcorrection is the thing to avoid</li><li>26:58 Meet the AI vegan</li><li>28:28 What's coming next: AI ethics and charity AI policies</li></ul><h3>Mentioned in this episode</h3><ul><li><b>Ethan Mollick's "otter on a plane using wifi" test.</b> Mollick's own account of how a silly prompt became his benchmark for AI image progress: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/the-recent-history-of-ai-in-32-otters" target="_blank">The recent history of AI in 32 otters</a>. </li><li><b>The "Will Smith eating spaghetti" test.</b> How a broken 2023 clip became the informal yardstick for AI video: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Smith_Eating_Spaghetti_test" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a>, and <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/31/will-smith-eating-spaghetti-and-other-weird-ai-benchmarks-that-took-off-in-2024" target="_blank">TechCrunch on the odd AI benchmarks that took off</a>.</li><li><b>Deloitte Australia's AI-generated report.</b> Deloitte partially refunded a A$440,000 report after fabricated references and a made-up court quote were found: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.marketbeat.com/articles/deloitte-to-partially-refund-australian-government-for-report-with-apparent-ai-generated-errors-2025-10-07" target="_blank">Associated Press coverage</a>. The refund was later reported at about A$97,000: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.cfodive.com/news/deloitte-refunds-60k-report-ai-errors-australian-government-accounting/803321/" target="_blank">CFO Dive</a>.</li><li><b>KPMG's withdrawn agentic AI report.</b> "Redefining excellence in the age of agentic AI" was pulled after numerous the case studies were found to be invented: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/kpmg-drops-ai-report-after-false-case-studies-exposed/" target="_blank">International Accounting Bulletin</a>, <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.storyboard18.com/how-it-works/kpmg-withdraws-report-on-agentic-ai-over-apparent-hallucinations-and-inaccurate-case-studies-101085.htm" target="_blank">Storyboard18</a>.</li><li><b>Obsidian</b>, the note-linking app Craig recreated the idea of with Claude: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://obsidian.md" target="_blank">obsidian.md</a>.</li><li><b>Get in touch:</b> <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:beyondtheslop@gmail.com" target="_blank">beyondtheslop@gmail.com</a>, or find Craig Linton and Anna Hessenbruch on LinkedIn.</li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">94965f5e-9e79-474e-9605-0542d49cb942</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna Hessenbruch & Craig Linton]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:28:03 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/e75ca102e5e95de6f98d1ac88341d73ddb65ab35aadf0ef9ceffc6c4bc72ba6c/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5NDk2NWY1ZS05ZTc5LTQ3NGUtOTYwNS0wNTQyZDQ5Y2I5NDIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4Yzk5YWRhYS05ZTE3LTQ4MTAtOTIwNy05YzkyNzAyNDA3NmEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTRiYzk4OTVjNDdiNTExYWRjOGQ2NDMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE4MmY1N2RkM2M1NDNmZjM3N2JmMDUzL2NyYWlnLWxpbnRvbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtOC0xN19fMTMtNTAtMjEubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="14013562" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/episodes/94965f5e-9e79-474e-9605-0542d49cb942/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Craig &amp;amp; Anna go back to basics. What&apos;s the difference between the AI companies, the tools you type into, and the models underneath? What is a token?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;00:00 Welcome&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;01:40 What we&apos;ve been building: Anna&apos;s holiday vibe coding and a homemade family planner app&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;04:34 Craig&apos;s fundraising brain: 20 years of articles, talks and his own book, made searchable&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;09:17 Back to basics: companies, interfaces and models&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;10:06 The chef who read every cookbook but never tasted food&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;11:44 Why the model matters, and the exponential curve in expert hours&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;14:04 The otter test &amp;amp; Will Smith eating spaghetti&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;15:13 Tokens, context windows, and why five Harry Potter books is a useful yardstick&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;16:48 What are your tokens actually costing you? Nobody quite knows&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;19:14 Full disclosure: we&apos;re AI enthusiasts, but we&apos;re not blind to the problems&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;19:53 Oops AI Did It Again: Deloitte and KPMG get caught not checking their AI&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;21:44 The new EU AI Act rules: watermarking, manipulation and the social scoring ban&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;24:44 Why the sector&apos;s GDPR overcorrection is the thing to avoid&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;26:58 Meet the AI vegan&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;28:28 What&apos;s coming next: AI ethics and charity AI policies&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Mentioned in this episode&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ethan Mollick&apos;s &quot;otter on a plane using wifi&quot; test.&lt;/b&gt; Mollick&apos;s own account of how a silly prompt became his benchmark for AI image progress: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/the-recent-history-of-ai-in-32-otters&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;The recent history of AI in 32 otters&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;The &quot;Will Smith eating spaghetti&quot; test.&lt;/b&gt; How a broken 2023 clip became the informal yardstick for AI video: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Smith_Eating_Spaghetti_test&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/31/will-smith-eating-spaghetti-and-other-weird-ai-benchmarks-that-took-off-in-2024&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;TechCrunch on the odd AI benchmarks that took off&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Deloitte Australia&apos;s AI-generated report.&lt;/b&gt; Deloitte partially refunded a A$440,000 report after fabricated references and a made-up court quote were found: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.marketbeat.com/articles/deloitte-to-partially-refund-australian-government-for-report-with-apparent-ai-generated-errors-2025-10-07&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Associated Press coverage&lt;/a&gt;. The refund was later reported at about A$97,000: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.cfodive.com/news/deloitte-refunds-60k-report-ai-errors-australian-government-accounting/803321/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;CFO Dive&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;KPMG&apos;s withdrawn agentic AI report.&lt;/b&gt; &quot;Redefining excellence in the age of agentic AI&quot; was pulled after numerous the case studies were found to be invented: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/kpmg-drops-ai-report-after-false-case-studies-exposed/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;International Accounting Bulletin&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://www.storyboard18.com/how-it-works/kpmg-withdraws-report-on-agentic-ai-over-apparent-hallucinations-and-inaccurate-case-studies-101085.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Storyboard18&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Obsidian&lt;/b&gt;, the note-linking app Craig recreated the idea of with Claude: &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://obsidian.md&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;obsidian.md&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;b&gt;Get in touch:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;mailto:beyondtheslop@gmail.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;beyondtheslop@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;, or find Craig Linton and Anna Hessenbruch on LinkedIn.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:29:12</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/logos/44124752-194d-4aa9-a1e5-0968ae46e982.png"/><itunes:title>Episode 1: Covering the basics</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Episode 0: Welcome to Beyond the Slop]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Craig Linton and Anna Hessenbruch introduce Beyond the Slop, a podcast about AI for charity and fundraising people. They explain how they met through supporter experience work, why the show is named after AI slop rather than the fails, and what the regular segments will be. If you have been told to hurry up with AI and to be careful with AI in the same week, this is the show for you.</p><p><br /></p><ul><li>00:00 Who we are, and why two fundraisers started an AI podcast</li><li>01:22 How Craig and Anna met, and the supporter experience thread that led here</li><li>02:45 Why data and CRMs have always been the barrier, and what changes now</li><li>03:12 A data project that took six months and tens of thousands of pounds, rebuilt in half a day</li><li>04:11 What "slop" actually means, and why the show is named after it</li><li>06:14 Why writing tasks are only a small slice of what AI does</li><li>07:10 Oops AI Did It Again: the professor, the invisible text, and the <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://nypost.com/2026/07/28/opinion/college-professor-busted-32-out-of-35-students-using-ai-on-a-final-after-they-all-made-the-same-lazy-mistake/" target="_blank">random fact about Malaysia</a></li><li>08:31 The real tension: hurry up with AI, but don't you dare get it wrong</li><li>09:21 The Britney drinking game, and where the show nearly got its name</li><li>11:13 The regular segments: what we're building, the AI news that matters, and tools we actually use</li><li>15:08 Coming up: AI ethics, choosing use cases, and a plain-English guide to the different AI models</li><li>16:41 Next up: Craig and Anna debate whether<a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://youtu.be/zwBMEuGqXlM?si=2uzijKgWt0izk4Fw" target="_blank"> AI is a force for good or a destructive menace</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">551a1507-5122-419a-9edf-84394fa36f68</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna Hessenbruch & Craig Linton]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2026 12:43:07 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/c6689e1392293c965627cb6d059fc65564752eba038b5247c800c9742c137368/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI1NTFhMTUwNy01MTIyLTQxOWEtOWVkZi04NDM5NGZhMzZmNjgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI4Yzk5YWRhYS05ZTE3LTQ4MTAtOTIwNy05YzkyNzAyNDA3NmEiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTRiYzk4OTVjNDdiNTExYWRjOGQ2NDMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmE4ZWRmNWI0ZjhmNTY0NTg2NTFhMWVlL2NyYWlnLWxpbnRvbnMtc3R1ZGlvLWNvbXBvc2VyLTIwMjYtOC0yNl9fMTQtNDMtNy5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="8673507" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/episodes/551a1507-5122-419a-9edf-84394fa36f68/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Craig Linton and Anna Hessenbruch introduce Beyond the Slop, a podcast about AI for charity and fundraising people. They explain how they met through supporter experience work, why the show is named after AI slop rather than the fails, and what the regular segments will be. If you have been told to hurry up with AI and to be careful with AI in the same week, this is the show for you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;00:00 Who we are, and why two fundraisers started an AI podcast&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;01:22 How Craig and Anna met, and the supporter experience thread that led here&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;02:45 Why data and CRMs have always been the barrier, and what changes now&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;03:12 A data project that took six months and tens of thousands of pounds, rebuilt in half a day&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;04:11 What &quot;slop&quot; actually means, and why the show is named after it&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;06:14 Why writing tasks are only a small slice of what AI does&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;07:10 Oops AI Did It Again: the professor, the invisible text, and the &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://nypost.com/2026/07/28/opinion/college-professor-busted-32-out-of-35-students-using-ai-on-a-final-after-they-all-made-the-same-lazy-mistake/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;random fact about Malaysia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;08:31 The real tension: hurry up with AI, but don&apos;t you dare get it wrong&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;09:21 The Britney drinking game, and where the show nearly got its name&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;11:13 The regular segments: what we&apos;re building, the AI news that matters, and tools we actually use&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;15:08 Coming up: AI ethics, choosing use cases, and a plain-English guide to the different AI models&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;16:41 Next up: Craig and Anna debate whether&lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://youtu.be/zwBMEuGqXlM?si=2uzijKgWt0izk4Fw&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; AI is a force for good or a destructive menace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:18:04</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/8c99adaa-9e17-4810-9207-9c927024076a/logos/44124752-194d-4aa9-a1e5-0968ae46e982.png"/><itunes:title>Episode 0: Welcome to Beyond the Slop</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>