<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[That's Not Growth]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most owners of businesses between $2M and $50M are told the answer to every problem is growth. Growth isn't the goal. A business that gives you options is the goal. In this weekly production, John Oestreich of 37 Business Planning brings decades of experience helping business owners see what’s really getting in the way of growth.</p><p>From cash flow and pricing to operations, leadership, market position, and owner dependence, John challenges the idea that more revenue, more activity, or more hustle automatically means a healthier business.</p><p><b><strong>More revenue isn’t always growth. More activity isn’t growth. Let’s talk about what is.</strong></b></p>]]></description><link>https://37businessplanning.com/</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2026 20:50:36 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/8D227weZ.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[37 Business Planning]]></author><pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 17:50:32 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 37 Business Planning]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Business]]></category><category><![CDATA[Entrepreneurship]]></category><itunes:author>37 Business Planning</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Most owners of businesses between $2M and $50M are told the answer to every problem is growth. Growth isn&apos;t the goal. A business that gives you options is the goal. In this weekly production, John Oestreich of 37 Business Planning brings decades of experience helping business owners see what’s really getting in the way of growth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;From cash flow and pricing to operations, leadership, market position, and owner dependence, John challenges the idea that more revenue, more activity, or more hustle automatically means a healthier business.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;strong&gt;More revenue isn’t always growth. More activity isn’t growth. Let’s talk about what is.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>37 Business Planning</itunes:name><itunes:email>shannon@tmresults.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Entrepreneurship"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0f1a2554-ca56-4742-861c-ee1107dc867b/logos/52d0bcee-4676-4f2b-9693-6eb81e5d9cf3.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[Episode 3 — It's All in Your Head]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>You can price a job in your head faster than your best estimator can open the spreadsheet, and that is exactly the problem. Episode three of the owner dependence arc is about the knowledge that never got written down, why it feels like expertise instead of a gap, and what it does to a business that's trying to get past five million.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9a383f71-6d4b-41ce-a880-7167f085c2b8</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[37 Business Planning]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2026 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/4d7e228d478c4ebbd8b9fd1eed60536736bdbf4b6a5a4cd9084eeca869711b9e/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI5YTM4M2Y3MS02ZDRiLTQxY2UtYTg4MC03MTY3ZjA4NWMyYjgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwZjFhMjU1NC1jYTU2LTQ3NDItODYxYy1lZTExMDdkYzg2N2IiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTU1YWE2ZGE2NjQ5ODUyZjA5ZTg2NTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFjNjVkNzY2OGE0NjUwMGVkYjgwZTNlL3RoYXRzLW5vdC1ncm93dGgtd2l0aC1qb2huLW9lc3RyZWljaC0yMDI2LTEwLTdfXzE0LTU1LTUzLm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="35509960" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0f1a2554-ca56-4742-861c-ee1107dc867b/episodes/9a383f71-6d4b-41ce-a880-7167f085c2b8/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;You can price a job in your head faster than your best estimator can open the spreadsheet, and that is exactly the problem. Episode three of the owner dependence arc is about the knowledge that never got written down, why it feels like expertise instead of a gap, and what it does to a business that&apos;s trying to get past five million.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:18:30</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0f1a2554-ca56-4742-861c-ee1107dc867b/logos/52d0bcee-4676-4f2b-9693-6eb81e5d9cf3.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Episode 3 — It&apos;s All in Your Head</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Episode 2 — They Only Call You]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Your three biggest customers ask for you by name, and you take it as a compliment. In episode two of the owner dependence arc, John Oestreich looks at what it means when the relationships that keep the lights on belong to a person instead of a company, why that feels like strength right up until it isn't, and what someone outside the business sees when they look at your customer list.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">4f3d6ef2-c5e5-4ed7-ac74-8ce9ca41a5bf</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[37 Business Planning]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2026 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/1b81603cc39eca0a6e597d3843c1c58e657cba58f5978b50b123b5177a577e8e/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0ZjNkNmVmMi1jNWU1LTRlZDctYWM3NC04Y2U5Y2E0MWE1YmYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwZjFhMjU1NC1jYTU2LTQ3NDItODYxYy1lZTExMDdkYzg2N2IiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTU1YWE2ZGE2NjQ5ODUyZjA5ZTg2NTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFjMDIwMmM1NzRhNmNkMWRmNzQ2ZGNiL3RoYXRzLW5vdC1ncm93dGgtd2l0aC1qb2huLW9lc3RyZWljaC0yMDI2LTEwLTJfXzIxLTIwLTQ2Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="35338597" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0f1a2554-ca56-4742-861c-ee1107dc867b/episodes/4f3d6ef2-c5e5-4ed7-ac74-8ce9ca41a5bf/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Your three biggest customers ask for you by name, and you take it as a compliment. 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In the first episode of That's Not Growth, John Oestreich of 37 Business Planning names the most felt and least understood of the eight growth gaps, takes apart the reason owners give for staying in the middle of everything, and walks through the thirty-day test that shows you what your business is actually made of.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">437bea7b-4173-4018-85b8-dae26c28761f</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[37 Business Planning]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2026 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/24054fd920e358f9a6203d1f9eaf1968b7789555d96ecd4a88dbbab3002c3505/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiI0MzdiZWE3Yi00MTczLTQwMTgtODViOC1kYWUyNmMyODc2MWYiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiIwZjFhMjU1NC1jYTU2LTQ3NDItODYxYy1lZTExMDdkYzg2N2IiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTU1YWE2ZGE2NjQ5ODUyZjA5ZTg2NTMiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmFiNmUyOGIzZWVhZmVhZjdmYzEwN2M4L3RoYXRzLW5vdC1ncm93dGgtd2l0aC1qb2huLW9lc3RyZWljaC0yMDI2LTktMjVfXzIxLTctMjQubXAzIn0=.mp3" length="38404745" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/0f1a2554-ca56-4742-861c-ee1107dc867b/episodes/437bea7b-4173-4018-85b8-dae26c28761f/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;If every approval, every price, and every hard customer call still lands on your desk, the business has a ceiling, and it is exactly the size of your calendar. 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