<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:psc="http://podlove.org/simple-chapters" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[BOR or Bust]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><b>BOR or Bust</b> is a podcast for insurance producers who are done settling for second place.</p><p></p><p>Hosted by Daryl Henry and Nick Aube, BOR or Bust is real, honest conversation about what actually works in insurance sales—Broker of Record strategy, building a book, winning large accounts, handling rejection, navigating underwriters, and betting on yourself when the stakes are real.</p><p></p><p>Because BOR is not just a way to win new business.</p><p></p><p><b>It’s a mindset.</b></p><p></p><p>It means going all in.</p><p></p><p>It means betting on yourself.</p><p></p><p>It means believing you’re worth it.</p><p></p><p>And refusing to accept second place as an acceptable outcome.</p><p></p><p><b>For us… it’s BOR or Bust, baby.</b></p><p></p><p>WORK WITH NICK -- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube" target="_blank">https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube</a><br /><br />WORK WITH DARYL AT BITNER HENRY -- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/" target="_blank">https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/</a></p><p><br /></p>]]></description><link>https://bororbust.riverside.com/</link><generator>Riverside.fm (https://riverside.com)</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:35:00 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://api.riverside.com/hosting/77DRBULw.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><author><![CDATA[Daryl Henry]]></author><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 13:05:13 GMT</pubDate><copyright><![CDATA[2026 Daryl Henry]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><ttl>60</ttl><category><![CDATA[Business]]></category><category><![CDATA[Careers]]></category><itunes:author>Daryl Henry</itunes:author><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;BOR or Bust&lt;/b&gt; is a podcast for insurance producers who are done settling for second place.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hosted by Daryl Henry and Nick Aube, BOR or Bust is real, honest conversation about what actually works in insurance sales—Broker of Record strategy, building a book, winning large accounts, handling rejection, navigating underwriters, and betting on yourself when the stakes are real.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because BOR is not just a way to win new business.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;It’s a mindset.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It means going all in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It means betting on yourself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It means believing you’re worth it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And refusing to accept second place as an acceptable outcome.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;For us… it’s BOR or Bust, baby.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;WORK WITH NICK -- &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WORK WITH DARYL AT BITNER HENRY -- &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Daryl Henry</itunes:name><itunes:email>daryl.henry1103@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Careers"/></itunes:category><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/9b7fe1c6-83d3-47cc-bf3c-478a3da34209/logos/4a4e9018-075e-42cb-86c8-755320a59b51.png"/><item><title><![CDATA[The Fastest Way to Grow Your Insurance Book | BOR or Bust]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most insurance producers are trained the same way…<br /><br />Quote.<br />Hope.<br />Come in second.<br />Repeat.<br /><br />And then the industry wonders why 75% of producers wash out.<br /><br />In the first episode of BOR or Bust, Daryl Henry and Nick Aube break down:<br /><br />✅ Why “quote and pray” destroys producer confidence<br />✅ How Nick built a $4.8M pipeline… and watched it collapse<br />✅ How Daryl went 1-for-43 and nearly washed out<br />✅ The 4 producer quadrants<br />✅ Why Broker of Record strategy changes everything<br />✅ How to grow your book faster without sacrificing your family<br /><br />If you’re a commercial insurance producer, agency owner, or sales professional who refuses to build your career the old way…<br /><br />You’re in the right place.<br /><br /><br />WORK WITH NICK -- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube" target="_blank">https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube</a></p><p><br /><br />WORK WITH DARYL AT BITNER HENRY -- <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/" target="_blank">https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/</a></p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">ee2add38-c47b-484c-8e56-246b276c09f2</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daryl Henry]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 13:09:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/ca6236410cc2dc6d073f7278597b9cdb24f5a74f7f2ea25bb3b5acdead8b0cbb/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJlZTJhZGQzOC1jNDdiLTQ4NGMtOGU1Ni0yNDZiMjc2YzA5ZjIiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5YjdmZTFjNi04M2QzLTQ3Y2MtYmYzYy00NzhhM2RhMzQyMDkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODQ4MjY5MGMxMmM2OTA0MDZiNDRlMjEiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExNDRhMDkzNGE4NDQyN2M0YTAwM2JkL2RhcnlsLWhlbnJ5cy1zdHVkaW8tWGxLQzItY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi01LTI1X18xNS05LTI4Lm1wMyJ9.mp3" length="87942939" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/9b7fe1c6-83d3-47cc-bf3c-478a3da34209/episodes/ee2add38-c47b-484c-8e56-246b276c09f2/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Most insurance producers are trained the same way…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Quote.&lt;br /&gt;Hope.&lt;br /&gt;Come in second.&lt;br /&gt;Repeat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then the industry wonders why 75% of producers wash out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the first episode of BOR or Bust, Daryl Henry and Nick Aube break down:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;✅ Why “quote and pray” destroys producer confidence&lt;br /&gt;✅ How Nick built a $4.8M pipeline… and watched it collapse&lt;br /&gt;✅ How Daryl went 1-for-43 and nearly washed out&lt;br /&gt;✅ The 4 producer quadrants&lt;br /&gt;✅ Why Broker of Record strategy changes everything&lt;br /&gt;✅ How to grow your book faster without sacrificing your family&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you’re a commercial insurance producer, agency owner, or sales professional who refuses to build your career the old way…&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You’re in the right place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WORK WITH NICK -- &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://calendly.com/producersystems/bor-strategy-call-nickaube&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WORK WITH DARYL AT BITNER HENRY -- &lt;a rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot; href=&quot;https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;https://bitnerhenry.com/careers-home/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:45:48</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/9b7fe1c6-83d3-47cc-bf3c-478a3da34209/logos/4a4e9018-075e-42cb-86c8-755320a59b51.png"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:title>The Fastest Way to Grow Your Insurance Book | BOR or Bust</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title><![CDATA[Solve the Premium Problem: Why Most Insurance Brokers Finish in Second Place]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Most insurance brokers are accidentally training themselves to finish in second place.</p><p></p><p>In Episode 2 of the BOR or Bust Podcast, Daryl Henry and Nick Aube unpack why traditional insurance sales advice often fails — especially when producers avoid talking about premium.</p><p></p><p>Nick shares the story of how years of coverage analysis meetings led to dead-end deals, awkward follow-ups, and prospects saying, “I think we’re in a good spot with our current broker.”</p><p></p><p>The breakthrough came when he realized clients weren’t actually asking for quotes. They were trying to solve a deeper problem:</p><p><br />“How do I know if I’m getting the best deal?”</p><p></p><p>This conversation dives into:</p><p></p><ul><li>Why prospects really ask for quotes</li><li>The hidden psychology behind premium objections</li><li>How BORs become easier when you solve the right problem</li><li>Why transparency creates trust faster than relationship-building</li><li>How producers accidentally make themselves irrelevant</li><li>Why strategy beats service theater</li><li>The difference between “saving money” and “taking control”</li></ul><p></p><p>Plus:</p><p></p><ul><li>A daycare insurance horror story</li><li>Why clients ghost brokers</li><li>The danger of becoming “Mr. Available”</li><li>The legendary acai bowl analogy</li></ul><p></p><p>If you’re tired of losing BORs, competing on price, or hearing “we’re happy with our broker,” this episode will change how you think about insurance sales.</p>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">b0bedbee-6bbb-422d-94a7-47fbdf7a4377</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daryl Henry]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 13:00:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/f1908dd499d03b8d52735df796b1b05422fc4a4eb3b4f1e34bf5f8a91ff97e53/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiJiMGJlZGJlZS02YmJiLTQyMmQtOTRhNy00N2ZiZGY3YTQzNzciLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI5YjdmZTFjNi04M2QzLTQ3Y2MtYmYzYy00NzhhM2RhMzQyMDkiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2ODQ4MjY5MGMxMmM2OTA0MDZiNDRlMjEiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvY2xpcHMvNmExMWI4MmEyZWM1NDVmNmFiOWRhM2EwL2RhcnlsLWhlbnJ5cy1zdHVkaW8tWGxLQzItY29tcG9zZXItMjAyNi01LTIzX18xNi0yMi0zNC5tcDMifQ==.mp3" length="103474303" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/9b7fe1c6-83d3-47cc-bf3c-478a3da34209/episodes/b0bedbee-6bbb-422d-94a7-47fbdf7a4377/transcripts.txt" type="text/plain"/><itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Most insurance brokers are accidentally training themselves to finish in second place.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In Episode 2 of the BOR or Bust Podcast, Daryl Henry and Nick Aube unpack why traditional insurance sales advice often fails — especially when producers avoid talking about premium.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nick shares the story of how years of coverage analysis meetings led to dead-end deals, awkward follow-ups, and prospects saying, “I think we’re in a good spot with our current broker.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The breakthrough came when he realized clients weren’t actually asking for quotes. They were trying to solve a deeper problem:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“How do I know if I’m getting the best deal?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This conversation dives into:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why prospects really ask for quotes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The hidden psychology behind premium objections&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How BORs become easier when you solve the right problem&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why transparency creates trust faster than relationship-building&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;How producers accidentally make themselves irrelevant&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why strategy beats service theater&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The difference between “saving money” and “taking control”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;A daycare insurance horror story&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why clients ghost brokers&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The danger of becoming “Mr. Available”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The legendary acai bowl analogy&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you’re tired of losing BORs, competing on price, or hearing “we’re happy with our broker,” this episode will change how you think about insurance sales.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary><itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit><itunes:duration>00:53:54</itunes:duration><itunes:image href="https://hosting-media.riverside.com/media/podcasts/9b7fe1c6-83d3-47cc-bf3c-478a3da34209/logos/4a4e9018-075e-42cb-86c8-755320a59b51.png"/><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:title>Solve the Premium Problem: Why Most Insurance Brokers Finish in Second Place</itunes:title><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>