Dr. Deb 0:23Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now the Podcast where we explore cutting edge approaches to help and empower you to make informed decisions about your wellness journey. I’m Dr Depp, and today we’re exploring a treatment that’s been used in hospitals for decades, but is now revolutionizing preventative health and performance optimization intravenous therapy or IV therapy.

Dr. Deb 0:48Maybe you’ve seen celebrities posting IV drip selfies, or perhaps your Local Wellness Center has started offering vitamin drips. You might be wondering, is this just another wellness trend, or is there solid science behind it?

Dr. Deb 1:05Today, we’ll cut through the hype and examine that IV therapy really is how it works in your body and the research behind its effectiveness for everything from athletic performance to immune support and chronic illness management. We’ll explore why oral supplements sometimes fall short the different types of IV formulations available, and how to determine if IV therapy might be right for your specific health needs. You’ll discover how direct to vein delivery of vitamins, minerals and other nutrients can create effects that simply aren’t possible with traditional supplementation.

Dr. Deb 1:46Whether you’re a performance focused athlete, sorry, a busy professional battling fatigue, someone with absorption issues, or just curious about optimizing your health, this episode will give you the science based insights you need to understand this powerful therapeutic approach. So as always, grab your favorite cup of tea or coffee, settle in, and let’s talk about the science of IV therapy and why is becoming a game changer in the world of health optimization.

Dr. Deb 2:24So let’s start with the basics. IV therapy, or intravenous therapy, delivers fluids, vitamins, minerals and other nutrients directly into your bloodstream, bypassing digestive system entirely. And this is not a new concept. Hospitals have used IV fluid delivery for over a century. What’s new is how we’re applying this technology for preventative health and performance optimization. The science behind IV therapy is straightforward but powerful.

Dr. Deb 2:57When you take an oral supplement, it must pass through your digestive system, where several factors limit absorption. First, your stomach acid breaks down many nutrients before they can be absorbed. Second, your digestive tract has limited absorption capacity, what scientists call bioavailability. And third, certain health conditions and medications can further reduce this absorption. Research published in the Journal of parental and enteral nutrition shows that even in healthy individuals, oral vitamin C absorption maxes out at about 200 to 250 milligrams per dose, with the rest being excreted. This is why, when you take those 1000 milligram vitamin C tablets, you often end up with expensive urine or stool if it causes what we call a flush, rather than therapeutic blood levels. In contrast, IV delivery achieves 100%

Dr. Deb 3:59bioavailability because it bypasses these digestive limitations. A 2019 study in the Journal of Translational Medicine found that IV vitamin C could achieve blood concentrations up to 70 times higher than what’s possible with oral supplementation. Those aren’t just numbers. That’s the difference between being a therapeutic effect and a minimal impact.

Dr. Deb 4:28The key advantages of IV therapy include complete absorption. Every molecule of nutrient delivered goes directly into circulation. Higher dosing. Potential therapeutic doses, impossible to achieve orally, immediate effects, no waiting for digestion and absorption. Customized formulations, tailored combinations based on individual needs. This is why we see such dramatic response.

Dr. Deb 5:00Responses in certain patients. It’s not placebo, it’s physiology.

Dr. Deb 5:07Now, not all IVs are created equal. Let’s explore the most common formulations and the science behind their benefits. A Myers cocktail, very common. This is the original IV nutrient therapy developed by Dr John Myers in the 1970s

Dr. Deb 5:25the classic formulation includes magnesium, calcium, B vitamins and vitamin C. A study published in the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine found that Myers cocktails recipients experienced significant improvement in fibromyalgia symptoms, including pain and fatigue. It’s considered the foundation formula that works well for general wellness, immune support and energy enhancement,

Dr. Deb 5:54high dose vitamin C. This isn’t just about preventing scurvy at IV doses, vitamin C functions differently in the body. Research from the National Institutes of Health shows that while oral vitamin C acts primarily as an antioxidant, intravenous vitamin C at high doses, typically 25 to 50 grams, can generate hydrogen peroxide, which selectively damages cancer cells while leaving healthy cells unharmed.

Dr. Deb 6:25A 2020 review in the journal nutrients confirmed that high dose vitamin C can reduce inflammation, fight infection, and may help improve outcomes when used alongside conventional cancer treatments. Linus Pauling actually received the Nobel Peace Prize for high dose vitamin C research.

Dr. Deb 6:48NAD plus nicotinamide, adenide, dinucleotide. That’s a mouthful. This coenzyme is essential for cellular energy production and DNA repair. NADH levels naturally decline with age, and research in Nature Communications suggests this decline contributes to many aspects of aging. IV NADH therapy can take several hours to administer, but has shown promising results for neurological recovery, addiction treatment and cognitive performance. A 2018 study in the journal Cell Metabolism found that restoring NAD plus levels improved mitochondrial function and reversed certain aspects of aging in animal models,

Dr. Deb 7:38glutathione often called the body’s master antioxidant. Glutathione is produced naturally in our liver, but becomes depleted with age, illness and toxin exposure. It’s poorly absorbed orally, making IV delivery particularly valuable. Research published in Clinical pharmacokinetics confirms that IV glutathione achieves significantly higher blood levels than oral supplementation. Benefits include detoxification support, immune enhancement and reduced oxidative stress. Some patients report improvements in inflammatory conditions, fatigue and even skin quality,

Dr. Deb 8:18hydration formulas, sometimes the simplest interventions are the most powerful basic hydration. IVs, containing electrolytes, can rapidly restore fluid balance. A study in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning research found that IV hydration restored exercise performance more quickly than oral hydration in dehydrated athletes. For anyone with intense physical demands, travel, fatigue or recovery needs, proper hydration at the cellular level can be transformative.

Dr. Deb 8:53Chelation therapy, this specialized treatment uses agents like EDTA to bind to heavy metals in the bloodstream, allowing them to be excreted. The tact trial to assess chelation therapy study published in JAMA found that chelation therapy reduced cardiovascular events in patients with a history of heart attack, particularly those with diabetes. While more research is still needed, this suggests potential benefits beyond metal detoxification,

Dr. Deb 9:25as with any medical intervention, the key is personalization. The most effective approach matches the specific formulation to your individual health needs, which is why professional assessment before beginning IV therapy is essential, while IV therapy can benefit many people, certain groups tend to see particular significant results. Let’s explore who might consider this approach and when it’s most valuable,

Dr. Deb 9:56athletes and active individuals for those pushing their.

Dr. Deb 10:00Physical limits, nutrient demands increased dramatically. Research published in the Journal of International Society of Sports Nutrition found that IV therapy improved recovery times and reduced muscle damage markers after intense exercise compared to oral hydration alone. Elite athletes often use IV therapy during intense training blocks or between competitions to maintain peak performance and accelerate recovery.

Dr. Deb 10:29Individuals with absorption issues, people with GI conditions that impair nutrient absorption, like Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis, celiac disease, SIBO, often struggle to maintain optimal nutrient levels through diet alone. A study in the American Journal of gastroenterology showed that IV nutrient therapy improved quality of life measures and reduced fatigue in patients with inflammatory bowel disease, IBD, if you’ve been diagnosed with malabsorption issues, IV therapy can be particularly valuable for you.

Dr. Deb 11:06Those with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, these complex conditions often respond poorly to conventional treatments alone. A randomized controlled trial published in the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine found that patients receiving weekly Myers, cocktails infusions experienced significant improvement in tender points, pain scores and overall quality of life compared to the placebo group. For these patients, IV therapy may provide relief when other approaches fall short.

Dr. Deb 11:41Individuals recovering from illness or surgery, recovery periods demand additional nutrients to rebuild tissues and restore normal function. Research in the Journal of surgical research demonst...

DEB: A few weeks ago, my body stopped listening to me. Just for a few hours, my legs wouldn't move the way I told them to. After some rest, it passed, but it was a wake-up call, and it sent me straight back to the science I've taught for 25 years: what stress and trauma actually do to the human body — and, more importantly, what we can do about it. That's today's episode. Not a confession — a toolkit. I'm going to show you exactly what happens in your nervous system and your immune system when life piles on, and then I'm going to give you real, evidence-based ways to support yourself through it.

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DEB: Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal. I'm Dr. Deb. If you've ever felt like your body was sending you a message you didn't have time to answer, this episode is for you. We're going to talk about the real physiology of stress and trauma, and I'm handing you a toolkit you can start using today. So grab your cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you unwind, settle in, and let's get started.

DEB: Before we dive in: this episode touches on a theme I explore in my book, Seen at Last — what it feels like to keep showing up for everyone else while your own needs go unspoken. It's available on Amazon, and I'm building a community around it. More on that soon, but for now, let's dive into today's episode.

DEB: I'm not going to spend this episode on the details of my month. Life has stacked up hard, all at once: business pressure, personal loss, family health crises. What matters is what happened next. My body flagged something that stress physiology has understood for decades, and I want to hand you that understanding. Here's the short version: in the middle of an unusually hard stretch, my body — which has managed a quiet autoimmune condition for years — briefly stopped cooperating. A few hours later, I was fine, but it was loud enough to make me stop and ask, "What is actually happening inside my body, with something I thought I had healed?" When stress reaches that threshold, what can we do — ideally, before it gets that loud? That's what this episode is going to share with you. Let's get into the science, and then let's talk about the tools.

DEB: Stress and trauma affect the body in a variety of ways. Stress is not just a feeling. It's a full-body, measurable physiological cascade, and understanding it is the first step to protecting yourself from it. We call this the HPA axis — your body's alarm system. When your brain perceives a threat, your hypothalamus signals your pituitary gland, which signals your adrenal glands to release cortisol. This is the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis, or HPA axis for short, and it's meant to work as a short-term burst followed by a return to baseline.

DEB: A 2025 review in the International Journal of Molecular Sciences lays out exactly what happens when that all-clear signal doesn't come. With prolonged activation, the feedback loop that's supposed to shut the axis off starts to break down. Cells can become resistant to cortisol's regulating effects, and the whole system shifts toward a pro-inflammatory state. Newer research in Molecular Psychiatry describes the same pattern from the immune side: chronic stress hormones weakening cortisol's normal anti-inflammatory effect while raising inflammatory messengers like IL-6 and TNF-alpha.

DEB: So what does this mean for autoimmune conditions specifically? That 2025 review ties persistent HPA dysregulation to lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and multiple sclerosis (MS). I want to be precise here: this is well established as an association and a mechanistic pathway, documented in both human and animal research. Its exact reversibility and the full clinical picture are still active areas of study. Animal models of MS have shown measurable HPA axis and oxidative stress changes that track with disease activity. This isn't speculation — but it's also not a settled, one-to-one clinical prediction for any individual person.

DEB: Now, why your gut and your brain are part of this conversation too. You've heard us talk for years about the gut-brain axis. Chronic HPA activation doesn't stay contained to the adrenal glands. Functional neurology research — including work associated with Dr. [Datis] Kharrazian's clinic — describes how sustained cortisol elevation and neuroinflammation can compromise blood-brain barrier integrity, allowing inflammatory activity to reach further into the nervous system than it otherwise would. This is an emerging, mechanism-level area of functional neurology rather than settled consensus science, and I want to be transparent about that distinction on air.

DEB: Why is trauma different from a bad week? Acute stress is your body handling one threat and returning to baseline. Trauma — especially the kind involving betrayal, grief, or ongoing fear for someone you love — tends to keep the nervous system in a sustained state of vigilance. Here it's worth naming polyvagal theory, developed by Dr. Stephen Porges, which describes the autonomic nervous system moving through gradations: safety and social connection; fight-or-flight mobilization; and, at the extreme, a dorsal vagal shutdown response. And I want to be straightforward with you and our listeners: polyvagal theory is widely used in trauma-informed clinical practice, but it's actively debated within mainstream academic neuroscience, and some of its specific claims are considered unproven or contested by critics. I find it a very useful framework for describing what patients experience, and I'll present it that way — not as settled physiology.

DEB: So here's the reframe I want to leave you with. Your symptoms after a hard season are not you personally failing. They're your body's honest report of what it's been going through — and that report is useful information that points directly to what you need to do next. And this is where we get into the heart of today's episode. These are specific, evidence-informed tools, not vague wellness advice.

DEB: First, regulate your vagus nerve — on purpose, every day. The vagus nerve is the main highway of your parasympathetic, rest-and-digest nervous system. Research on heart rate variability and biofeedback shows that slow-paced breathing — roughly six breaths per minute — reliably increases vagal tone, and even a single five-minute session of paced abdominal breathing has been shown to significantly reduce state anxiety, particularly in older adults. So try this: inhale for a count of four, exhale for a count of eight, and do it for five minutes, twice a day. This is a legitimate, measurable physiological intervention.

DEB: When I first started this, I could never figure out where I'd find the time. But all of us drive, and all of us get stuck at stop signs and stoplights. So I started doing deep abdominal breathing while driving. When I was younger and busy running my practice, taking care of my kids, and everything else household life brings, I didn't have time when I got home. Between work and home, I was very stressed — thinking about everything I needed to do when I got home, and everything I still needed to finish at the clinic. Breathing in the car let me relax a little before transitioning from my career-woman role to my mother-and-wife role. I'm not as good at it today as I was then, because I don't have kids at home anymore. I can just keep working, do whatev...

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26:42 – The biggest MYTHS around weight loss that are out there today

29:11 – Why does Jennifer take a hard stand in her book against the Dieting Industry

33:40  – Our bodies are beautiful because they are OUR bodies

38:50  – We have to think about how we start to focus on experiences in our life that are beyond food

39:20 – Food has only so much power over you if you give it that power, but when you take that power back, then it’s JUST food

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About our Guest:

Jennifer Powter, founder of The Weight Loss Academy and best-selling author of Diet Disruption: The Weight Loss Solution for the Chronic Serial Dieter and Stop Sabotaging Your Weight Loss: Why You Do It and How to Fix It, is one of the nation’s top life transformation coaches. She works with high-achieving, driven women who want to feel good in their own skin and feel confident again. As a Weight Loss & Mindset Expert for women over 40, Jennifer has helped thousands of women reclaim their bodies (and their minds) by taking a truly soulful and scientific approach to weight loss and establishing a solid foundation for lasting transformation – one that empowers women and helps them stop sabotaging their success.

As well as holding a master’s degree in science, Jennifer is a clinical exercise physiologist, a double-certified health and life coach, and an emotional intelligence practitioner. She has also experienced her own transformational weight loss journey, permanently losing more than thirty-five

pounds that had held her back for years. 

Over the last twenty years, Jennifer has helped thousands of women reclaim their bodies and minds, using her proven Metabolic Profile Index (MPI) assessment to help every woman determine exactly what she needs, emotionally and metabolically – and she does so in a judgment-free zone, after all, she’s been there herself, and knows how tough the weight loss journey can be.

Jennifer lives near the breathtaking Rocky Mountains in Calgary, Alberta, with her family and their gorgeous St. Bernard, Harley.

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Transcription to episode #150:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:26So my guest for you today is Jennifer Powter and Jennifer is a weight loss and mind set expert. She is passionate about teaching women how to stop sabotaging their diet and their weight loss. So Jennifer powder is the founder of weight loss Academy and the best selling author of diet disruptions. She talks about the weight loss solution for chronic serial dieting, and as I said, sabotaging your weight loss, and why you do it and how you fix it.

Debra Muth 1:02So Jennifer is an expert for women over 40. She has helped 1000s of women reclaim their bodies and their minds. By taking a truly soulful and scientific approach to weight loss and establishing a solid foundation for lasting transformations. I can’t wait to talk to Jennifer today. Because Jennifer is so spot on with what we do with diet and weight loss and why it works and why it fails us. And over the years I’ve looked for many different programs on how to help women in their midlife years lose the weight that they’ve they’ve gained. And we know it’s hormones, and we know its lifestyle. We know it’s activity. And we’ve all heard the things that work. Macro counting keto, paleo, get rid of gluten, get rid of this. It’s all about getting rid of everything. And then of course, doing more, right. So I’m going to talk to Jennifer today about this too.

Debra Muth 2:05But I was just reading a weight loss program this week and the gentleman was talking about walking two to four hours a day. Well, duh, if we walk two to four hours a day, we’re going to lose weight, okay, that’s a no brainer. But we don’t have two to four hours a day to walk most of us. We are busy, we are running our lives, we’re running businesses, we’re working, we’re taking care of family. And we just don’t have that kind of time to devote to losing weight. And if that’s the answer for many of us, we’re just gonna say, I don’t have that time, I can’t do it. And we’re gonna throw in the towel and not even try. And I think there’s a better way in between this. That can help us figure out how we maintain our weight or lose the weight and change our bodies and not feel guilty about eating and not feel guilty about who we are and what we are. And I’m excited to bring you Jennifer, she is going to share with us how we get past that mindset piece of things. So I’m going to introduce you here to Jennifer and we’re going to get started having this fantastic conversation.

Debra Muth 3:20Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long hollers autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenityhealthcarecenter.com.

Debra Muth 4:39Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I am with my dear friend Jennifer Powter and we are going to talk about women’s issues today. You guys know I love to talk about women’s issues. It is one of my passions. So I’m excited to talk to Jennifer today. She’s got a great new book coming out. She’s going to talk to us about that as well. But this is the perfect time of year for us to start focusing on ourselves. So Jennifer, welcome to the show.

Jennifer Powter 5:05No, thank you. I’m so happy to be here. It’s yeah, thank you for having me.

Debra Muth 5:09You’re welcome. This is gonna be great conversation. Because we can go really deep into a lot of different areas. So excited about that.

Jennifer Powter 5:18Thank you.

Debra Muth 5:19So tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got on this journey.

Jennifer Powter 5:24Oh, you know, so many of us have our own stories. And I think it’s so great to share them because it’s easy to look at someone and say, Oh, it’s always been easy for them, or they’ve never struggled. And r eally, that couldn’t be more of the opposite truth for me. And, you know, I do specialize in weight loss for women over 40. And lots of most of my clients are in their 50s and 60s, but for me, I found myself carrying, you know, I stopped counting, but I’ve been, you know, good 40 ish extra pounds on my five foot six frame. And what’s the irony and all of this is I had been an Ironman athlete, a multi marathoner, I had advanced degrees in exercise physiology, like I was a personal trainer, I, you know, I had all of this knowledge. And yet, here I was, and so it was a very humbling experience. And back then, which was only about 10-11 years ago, there was this big movement, push, like, eat more, or eat less, sorry, eat less, move more. And I just thought I needed to run or somehow punish my way physically into into fitness. And it didn’t work. Instead, I was adrenal fatigue. I mean, I just, you know, I’m, I’ve just lost it...

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01:22 What is Holistic Natural Integrative Cancer approach?

03:57 The number one cause of death in adults in high-income countries is now cancer.

04:46  The problem with conventional medicine and cancer – We really have not made a ton of progress in treating cancer. 

07:00 It’s not just about prevention, it’s also about treatment.

10:10 Vitamin C as a treatment for advanced stage cancer – the flagship of therapy of Integrative Medicine. 

12:37 Integrating low-dose metronomic form of chemo together with Vitamin C. 

15:18 The importance of being precise and accurate in the approach to the delivery of therapies. 

17:28 The effective therapies from the alternative world to Colorectal Cancer.

19:46 Let science lead the way.

22:11 The story of how Dr. Nathan helped a patient with breast cancer and bone metastasis from wheelchair to walking with no pain, from a treatment mode to healing mode.

Resources Mentioned

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About our Guest:

Dr. Nathan Goodyear, MD, MDH

Docēre rāphè: Docēre is Latin for doctor which is translated, teacher. Rāphè is Hebrew for physician which is translated, as healer. The word root of the word disease is from the two words, dis, meaning lack of or without, and -aise, meaning wellness. Disease, or better dis-aise, is simply the lack of wellness.

Dr. Goodyear’s passion for Wellness began with his own 100-pound post-college football career weight loss. Dr. Goodyear is currently the medical director of a holistic, integrative cancer healing center in Arizona where he uses the principles and science of holistic, natural, and integrative therapies to treat and heal people with cancer. It is not enough to target and eliminate cancer, one must heal. In addition, Dr. Goodyear is dedicated to dis-aise prevention, dis-aise resolution, and to the wellness lifestyle through a solution-based, Holistic, Integrative approach founded in science.

Business Website: http://www.BrioMedical.com

LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drnathangoodyear/

YouTube Channel: Brio News

Transcript of Episode 195

Debra Muth 0:03Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. I’m your host and I have Dr. Nathan Goodyear with me. I would always say Goodwin but it’s Goodyear. And we are going to talk about integrative therapies for cancer. So, Dr. Nathan, welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Dr. Nathan Goodyear 0:19Well, I’m the Medical Director out here at Brio medical in Scottsdale, Arizona. We are a natural, holistic and Integrative Cancer Healing Center. And all of those words are very important. But really to understand where I am, it’s where I came from I, I graduated from residency in 2004, I very quickly understood that I needed to change my lifestyle, because I played college football, I played center and I was played at about 285 290 pounds, I was a big, I was a big guy. And two of the the gentlemen that I played with passed away within five years because of massive vascular events. So I knew I knew that I had to change my lifestyle, plus I had a budding family and I wanted to be around for them. So I really got into the integrative movement in 2006. Then with the, with my own diagnosis of a pheochromocytoma, in 2000, late 2015, that was really the beginning of my final change into what is this holistic, natural Integrative Cancer approach. So natural means we want to be as natural as possible. Holistic means we want to recognize that the whole body healing wellness, that’s what we’re after. And we don’t want to get bogged down in different compartments. But we want to we want to heal the body, targeting the tumor are targeting cancer and destroying the body in the process. That’s a no go. And then integrative. We want to integrate the different therapies. And that’s not just, you know, therapies IVs. It could be counseling, it could be psychological, it could be emotional, all of these come to bear to allow something like cancer to start, grow and survive. And then we want to be effective. So the evidence comes in, to bring all of this to bear natural, holistic and integrative to really have a truly targeted and healing approach that occurs together.

Debra Muth 2:23I love that concept. And I think that there’s such a missing concept when it comes to cancer, right? In the conventional medicine world, as most people understand it, it’s just about killing the cancer, just kill the cancer, nothing else really matters. You can eat whatever you want. You can do whatever you want, as long as you feel comfortable. Live your life like you want. But do you think that it’s that model that’s failing cancer patients is just looking at it from one perspective of things?

Dr. Nathan Goodyear 2:56You know that that’s very insightful, Deb, because it’s a failed model. It’s a fair, it’s a failed paradigm. We desperately need a change of thought I actually say it’s kind of intellectual when breeding, because you can’t think outside the box. Yeah. Chemotherapy, and much of what we see in conventional approach to cancer treatment, and I’m conventionally trained, so I’m also an MD homeopath. It was born out of war. I mean, chemotherapy was literally born out of World War One and World War Two. And then it’s interesting that that same vernacular, that same phraseology, if you will go to war on cancer, Nixon declared war on cancer 1971 with the National Cancer Act. So it’s really interesting how all of that has progressed to the last 100 years or so, born out of a war, declare war, you know, what other what other disease states that we declared war on? Yeah, there was a 2019 study to published twice in different formats in The Lancet journal in 2019. That showed that the number one cause of death in adults in high income countries is now cancer. So all of that war, what has it brought? Now it’s brought profits, but has brought healing. Now, I wouldn’t know you the data says no, it has not.

Debra Muth 4:15I agree and, and we haven’t even how do I want to say this? We haven’t even touched the iceberg on it. I mean, we have more cancer now. And the statistics are crazy. You probably know that way better than I do. But it’s like 100% people are going to have cancer by 2050, I think. But there’s so much more cancer, and yet we’re not any better off at treating it today than we were I would argue 10 or 15 years ago. Yes. We’re a little bit better than we were in the 70s but 10 or 15 years, we really have not made a ton of progress in treating cancer.

Dr. Nathan Goodyear 4:49No, we have not and I think the approach and the perspective is really the the issue is where our medical director we have two naturopaths and we have another medical doctor in The nurse practitioner, and I love the challenge that that that group brings to bare. Because we bring different perspective, when you look at it from a conventional standpoint, we are trained to look at things from a disease standpoint. How do you heal? How do you focus on healing when your only approach is what disease and how to treat the disease. And I jokingly say, it’s like going to your doctor with you, you have a headache, and the doctor hits you upside the head with a two by four. And then the doc says, How’s your headache, you go? Well, my headaches gone. But I’m not sure what we’re going to do about my brains all over the floor. It always elicits a chuckle, but I think they understand what the references, you know, conventional medicine comes in with a heavy stick. And you know what, you break a hip surgically? Yeah, you need to repair that hip surgically. You don’t say take more vitamin D. But everything has a place, everything has a time. And I think what we’re missing, it’s the integration and synergy that can be used here to really help patients target a tuber and heal the body at the same time.

Debra Muth 6:09Yeah, I agree. I think we have to, and, and sometimes, too, we have to look at where did this cancer come out of, right? I mean, we know if we’re living a lifestyle that’s decreasing our immune system, or we have a lot of stress, or sometimes it comes from an emotional thing. And we don’t want to believe that in the conventional world, we just believe like the cancer tumors just didn’t get broken up. But in in our world, we can say, yeah, we can look at lifestyle. We can look at traumas, we can look at stressors and say, This was inevitable when we look at how you’ve lived your life for the last 25 years. But now how do we fix this so that it doesn’t stay with you for the next 25 years? Or doesn’t take your life? And the next five, right?

Dr. Nathan Goodyear 6:48Yeah, I mean, you’re exactly right. It’s like the way most people look at cancer. It’s, it’s like some bad Sigourney Weaver movie, we’re an alien planet. And you know, I had no choice. Actually, cancer is simply a disease of lifestyle that that in many ways, and that’s what tha...

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My guest today, MIT scientist Dr. Stephanie Sineff, has spent over a decade connecting the dots between environmental toxins, metabolic chaos, and neurological decline. You'll want to hear every word of this conversation.

You guys can put our, Serenity ad in here, and then I'll do the standard intro.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal. I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective.

And today, we're diving into how environmental toxins and nutritional imbalances are silently shaping chronic disease patterns, from autoimmune disorders to neurodegenerative decline.

And how we can take back control of our health. So, as usual, grab your cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you unwind, settle in, and let's get started on your journey to deeper healing.

So, Dr. Sunif, so glad to have you here. I can't wait to have this conversation with you. We were just chatting off-camera a few seconds ago about what we're going to chat about, but tell us a little bit about your background and how you got into this field of looking at toxins and mitochondria.

Seneff 01:50

Okay, yeah, my background is a bit eclectic, so it starts out with biology. I have an undergraduate degree in biology from MIT. My PhD is in electrical engineering and computer science, so that's quite a switchover. And most of my career, I was writing computer code to train computers to talk to humans in a natural

conversation… conversational interaction with computers. We were pioneers in that space. You can see that it has really taken off now. And actually, by 2006, 2007, I started to realize that

the kind of work I did already then was getting compromised by the, by the emergence of AI.

And I got concerned that, I wouldn't be able to sustain the path I was on. And it's happening now, of course, to the young… many people, young people today, are facing a crisis in computer science, because it used to be if you had skills in hacking code, you were good to go, you know, and that's just not true anymore, so that's another whole story, but anyway, I decided I needed to do something different, and I pivoted in a big way in 2007.

managed to get the company that had been funding me, a Taiwanese company called Quanta Computers, And they,

We're willing to switch over to funding me to do research on health and toxic chemical exposures.

Which was a miracle that they let… they let me switch over to that, and that was fantastic, 2007. So it's been almost 20 years.

that I've been looking for toxic chemical exposures and their association with human disease. And I focused initially on autism and heart disease, kind of for personal reasons, because I knew people who had, you know, who had those issues.

But it led into a much, much bigger story, and I'm super excited about what's happened over the last 20 years. It's been a continual learning experience for me, and I've just kept broadening my space in biology, furiously reading papers as I discovered new concepts and trying to explore those.

opening up new windows, and it's just been a profusion of learning over the past 20 years, and I've published many papers at this point.

Peer-reviewed papers on the topics of toxic chemical exposures and disease.

Particularly, glyphosate is the one I really focused on, and I wrote the book, Toxic Legacy, how the weed killer glyphosate is Destroying Our Health and the Environment.

That was published in 2021. So.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:18

So I'm sure you have a few thoughts about the administration wanting to bring that back to be made at home instead of China, right?

Seneff 04:26

I know, that's so interesting. And actually, you know, he makes a point that I agree with, which is that we are relying on China.

for importing a whole bunch of stuff that's really toxic, and we're pouring it all over our food supply, so China's probably very happy to poison us, you know? Oh, absolutely. It's kind of ironic that we're doing that, and he makes a good point that we shouldn't be relying on China for these chemicals that are poisoning us, but where he misses the point is he says, well, we just need to poison ourselves, you know? Rather than getting rid of that chemical, we need to really change the way we grow food.

I think it's the number one most important thing right now.

in America is to change the way we grow food, and it has to be certified organic, regenerative. We need to focus on healing the soil, just as we have to heal the gut. I mean, we've really messed up the microbes in both the soil and the gut, and the consequences, as you can see, are a huge problem with human disease.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:20

They're devastating. I mean, we have so much chronic illness and so much neurological disease these days, and just the rise of autism, it should be telling us that we're doing something wrong, right?

Seneff 05:31

Absolutely.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:32

We have a problem. For those people who are listening that don't understand what the term glyphosate is, can you explain that a little bit to them?

Seneff 05:39

Yeah, so it's one of the many herbicides that we use. We use herbicides, fungicides, and insecticides in agriculture, all these poisons, and it kind of seems crazy to me that we would think it's okay to pour poisons all over our food supply. I don't understand why we think that's fine.

Yeah. You know, categorically. Glyphosate is supposed to be a wonderful chemical, because it's an herbicide that kills all plants except for those that have been engineered to resist it.

And supposedly is completely harmless to humans. And that's what gets to be, you know, disbelief, because how can something so toxic to plants be harmless to humans? Just, how can it be?

Dr. Deb Muth 06:14

We haven't been re-engineered like the seeds that they use from Monsanto, so how can it not affect us if it only affects everything but their seeds that they've modified to make grow beautifully under that condition? It doesn't make any sense.

Seneff 06:32

Right, and of course, the critical thing they missed is that our gut microbes do have that pathway. It's the chicken mate pathway that it disrupts. Really critical in all the plants, and in most of the microbes.

In the soil and in the gut, and so it kills off the microbes as well as the plants, and when it kills off your gut microbes, you gotta watch out, because gut dysbiosis is a huge thing. And we've had so many papers coming out lately that

Talking about the relationship between gut dysbiosis and all kinds of different diseases.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:01

Do you think that's why we see so much gut dysbiosis these days?

Seneff 07:04

Oh, absolutely. I think it's not just glyphosate, because we have lots of poisons that are messing up our gut microbes, but glyphosate is a really big one, because the shikimate pathway is essential for many of the microbes, and they use it to make essential nutrients for the host. So we get compromised as well, just because they can't make those nutrients in that.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:22

It's so…

Seneff 07:22

lies.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:23

so much harder today to treat people with gut issues than it was 25 years ago when I started. It was so much easier. And now, it's, like, nearly impossible sometimes to get some of these people back to a good, healthy gut microbiome, no matter what you do, no matter how well they eat, and all the things that they do. It's a struggle, for sure, compared to what it was 20 years ago.

Seneff 07:44

It's interesting that you have that personal experience, because I think people like you really can see what's happening.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:49

and appreciate.

Seneff 07:50

the difference between then and now. I, of course, as a child, autism was not something I knew about at all.

Really, when I was a child. It didn't exist, basically. I mean, it was so rare.

And now, you know, everyone knows someone with autism, you know, pretty much.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:08

autism and Parkinson's and Alzheimer's seems to be just so much commonplace. Everybody knows somebody in their family that is affected by one of those disorders, if not multiples, and

We tend to say it's genetic, right? Well, there's got to be a genetic… why wasn't it genetic 50 years ago, or 100 years ago? But now, all of a sudden, it's so prevalent in our environment that we've just become acceptable of it, and I think that's wrong for us to do that. We shouldn't be doing that.

Seneff 08:38

I know. I find it very interesting how quickly it appears that humans adapt to the new normal, you know?

Dr. Deb Muth 08:44

Yeah.

Seneff 08:45

It's normal that you have, you know.

3% of the kids have autism, that's normal, you know? It's just like, no, it's not. And also, of course, all the Alzheimer's and dementia and Parkinson's, as you mentioned, in the elderly, those are connected, because they're all related to brain problems that are being caused by chemicals that are destroying the brain.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:03

Yeah. So, how does glyphosphate interact with our body's ability to absorb those essential nutrients, like sulfur?

Seneff 09:12

Yeah, well, it's… that's a big… that's a big question. I don't know ...

Within the next seven months, up to 1.5 million Americans could lose access to a medication that they've relied on for decades. Not because it's dangerous, but because a pharmaceutical giant may have lobbied the FDA to eliminate their competition. And if you're one of them, your doctor may already have told you about this issue and stopped prescribing it.

This isn't a conspiracy theory. This is documented in federal court filings. This is happening right now. And the company that stands to profit, well, they're the same ones manufacturing the only product that might survive.

Today on Let's Talk Wellness Now, we're exposing the desiccated thyroid extract crisis, the corporate manipulation behind it, and what you need to do right now to protect your health. Stay with me because I'm about to share what could save your access to the medication keeping you alive.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, expose regulatory capture in healthcare, and empower you with the tools to advocate for yourself. I'm Dr. Deb, naturopathic doctor, your medical detective, and today we're diving into one of the most consequential and corrupt healthcare decisions affecting patients right now. If you or someone you love takes Armour thyroid, NP thyroid, or any desiccated thyroid extract,

for hypothyroidism or if you've struggled to find a thyroid medication that actually works for your body, this episode is absolutely critical. And if you have celiac disease, gluten sensitivity or corn allergies, what I'm about to reveal will make your blood boil. Now grab your cup of coffee, don't forget your notebook and settle in because what's happening to this medication right now is a masterclass in how pharmaceutical companies use regular

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agencies to eliminate competition, control markets, and price gouge patients. And I have all the receipts.

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Let me start with what might surprise you. Desiccated thyroid extract, or DTE as we call it, is actually one of the most oldest thyroid medications in the world. And I mean old. From the 1890s through 1970, this was the standard treatment for hypothyroidism.

Now let's really dive into that. From the 1890s to the 1970s, this was standard hypothyroidism treatment.

In 1965 alone, and this is documented in peer-reviewed literature published in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, approximately four out of every five prescriptions for thyroid hormone in the United States were of natural desiccated thyroid preparations.

The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism is a very high-end journal. Now think about that. This wasn't some fringe therapy. This was mainstream medicine. Armour Thyroid, the most recognizable brand name, has been manufactured since the early 1900s, well over a century ago.

and this is cited again in NIH bookshelf. When the FDA was officially established in 1938, Arbor thyroid was already on the market. And this is important and I want you to understand why. Under the federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, any drug that was already being marketed before 1938 was automatically grandfathered into the system. That means it didn't have to

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go through the formal FDA approval process. And this again is cited under the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, grandfathered drugs and exemptions. And this is crucial to understanding what happens next. By the 1970s, synthetic levothyroxine, brand name Synthroid and generics became the preferred treatment. Hmm, wonder why?

It was easier to standardize, came into consistent doses, and worked well for most patients, and could be mass manufactured. By the 1980s, levothyroxine had largely replaced desiccated thyroid in clinical practice, according to the American Thyroid Association 2014 guidelines for the treatment of hypothyroidism. But here's what matters. Some patients...

a very significant minority of them, never felt right on levothyroxine alone. Despite their lab work looking normal, they still had fatigue, brain fog, weight gain, cold intolerance, and depression.

These patients often found relief when they switched back to their desiccated thyroid, which contains both T4 and T3 hormones, the way human thyroid naturally produces them. And this is not anecdotal. This is documented in randomized double-blind crossover studies published in Endocrine Practice.

For decades, that was fine. Their doctors prescribed it, insurance sometimes covered it, patients were getting better, and the system worked really well. Until August 6th of 2025, just a short time ago, everything changed. On that date, the FDA sent letters to manufacturers, importers, and distributors of desiccated thyroid extract products stating that these medications would need an approval.

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a biologics licensed application, a BLA, to remain legally on the market. And this is cited in the FDA's official statement, FDA's actions to address unapproved thyroid medications. understand it says unapproved thyroid medications. However, desiccated thyroid, specifically Armour, has been approved since 1938. And this was dated August 6th through 7th, 2025.

This wasn't a guideline. This wasn't a suggestion. It was an endorsement of action. And the timeline they gave them? Well, just 12 months to transition patients to another medication before enforcement action could begin.

This was also cited by an FDA notice to the industry, animal derived thyroid products notice to industry, August 6th, 2025. Now do the math, that means August 2026, seven months from now, 1.5 million Americans currently taking this medication. And this number comes from the FDA official statement, citing that it's an estimation of 1.5 million patients receiving prescriptions for these medications.

could potentially lose their thyroid access. Now, here's where it gets interesting. The FDA didn't wake up in August of 2025 and decide to regulate desiccated thyroid after a century. This decision has a much longer backstory. And understanding that backstory is critical to understanding what's really happening in this industry.

The shift started in 2022. Back in September of 2022, over three years ago, an FDA branch chief sent a letter to the National Associations of Boards of Pharmacy noting that the agency had decided to designate DTE as a biological product, which would affect its eligibility for compounding.

Deb (08:13.972)

This also is cited in an FDA letter to the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy September 2022.

Then two months later, in November of 2022, the FDA's Office of Compounding Quality and Compliance sent a softer letter acknowledging that many Americans take medication to treat hypothyroidism and some choose to take DTE products. The letter stated that the FDA would focus enforcement on cases that pose the greatest public health risks, such as serious adverse offense or serious product quality or adulteration.

also is cited by an FDA letter from Francis G. Bromel, the director, Office of Compounding Quality and Compliance, November of 2022. Now, let me just think about this for a second. If this drug has been on the market since the 1800s, been FDA approved since 1938, would we not have seen a health crisis long before 2022?

I honestly don't know of any other drug that's been around this long that's used by this many people. Now granted, I haven't done the research on it either, which I can do for you guys, but I'm just thinking if a drug is on the market today and it causes harm, it doesn't make it three years, five years before you see lawsuits everywhere. Why are there no lawsuits on this drug? Why are there no major reactions that people are seen having?

Hmm, just thought. But here's the pattern. The FDA was already laying the groundwork back in 2022, testing the waters, signaling where this was headed. The August 2025 action. Then this came down.

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August 6, 2025, the FDA announced its position publicly and sent formal letters to all DTE manufacturers, importers, and distributors. This was cited by the FDA Enforcement Action August 6, 2025, letters to manufacturers, importers, distributions of DTE products. The agency stated several concerns. First, DTE products have experienced quality and dosing issues.

The FDA cited, and I'm quoting directly from their statement, over 500 adverse events reported associated with DTE products from 1968 to 2025. From 1968 to 2025, we had 500 adverse reactions? What is that math equate to?

A couple a year? Come on guys, this is insane! With a substantial increase, you, between 2019 and 2020 that the agency suggested was related to voluntary recalls of sub-potent or super-potent products.

This was cited in the FDA statement, over 500 adverse events reported associated with ADT products from 1968 through 2025.

Second, the agency expressed concern about batch inconsistency. According to the FDA's official statements, tablets made from the same manufacturing batches may not always provide the same thyroid hormone levels. Okay, this was cited in the FDA statement, tablets made from the same manufacturing batches may not always provide the same thyroid hormone levels. Thirdly, and I want to actually let's back up. I want you to remember I said that

Deb (12:11.216)

because further down in this podcast, we're going to talk about this. This is an important point to remember. Thirdly, the agency raised concerns about potential impurities from animal source material,...

In this episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb uncovers the powerful and often overlooked connection between your oral microbiome and your whole-body health. For too long, the mouth and body have been treated as separate systems. The truth is they are deeply connected, and the bacteria living in your mouth may be quietly influencing your risk for some of the most serious chronic conditions we face.

Dr. Deb breaks down the science linking oral bacteria to Alzheimer's, heart disease, stroke, and autoimmune conditions like lupus, and explains why what is happening in your mouth matters far more than most people (and even many doctors) realize. More importantly, she shares what you can actually do about it, from testing to targeted treatment to restoring balance in your oral microbiome.

If you have been chasing answers for symptoms that never seem to resolve, this conversation may reveal a missing piece you have never been told to look at.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Why your mouth and body should never be treated as separate systems

- How oral bacteria are linked to Alzheimer's, heart disease, and stroke

- Why you cannot fix what you have not measured, and where oral DNA testing comes in

- Which pathogenic bacteria matter most and why

- Practical, real-world steps to restore your oral microbiome and protect your long-term health

Key frameworks discussed:

The Mouth-Body Connection, Microbiome Balance, and Targeted Microbial Therapy.

Chapters:

00:00 The Hidden Dangers of the Oral Microbiome

02:30 Connecting Oral Health to Systemic Disease

07:16 The Importance of Testing for Oral Health

11:28 Understanding Pathogenic Bacteria

16:16 The Mouth-Body Connection

20:18 Restoring Your Oral Microbiome

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04:19 – Barb shares her journey from being massively fatigued all the time, Hypothyroidism, and Uterine Fibroid to starting life at the age of 57.

12:20 – Identifying your non-negotiables because the “wheels will fall off the bus”.

14:04 – Every day is an opportunity for us to start over again

14:29 – When you fall off the wagon, give yourself grace and that gift to restart the next day

17:22 – If we had more grace, people wouldn’t be so hard on ourselves

18:35 – We have to force ourselves and train our brains to sometimes see the good and be proactive

20:02 – There are genetic predispositions to people being more negative, as well as any negative upbringing

24:27 – Find out about the Four Pillars Barb uses to help her clients

36:07 – The best thing about Multiple Functional Medicine Practices

37:14 – The difference between Serenity Healthcare Centers Practice versus Functional Medicine Practices

38:27 – The importance of testing versus just telling your physician about your symptoms

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Barbara Diaz de Leon is a health and wellness coach who received her certifications through the Primal Health Coach Institute and the Institute of Transformational Nutrition. She is the founder of Daily Wellness for You and the Primal and Pink wellness group. She had her own remarkable body and mind transformation, and she is passionate to help other women do the same.

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Transcription of Episode #148:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16Good morning and welcome. It is December 3 2021. And you’re listening to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today I have a dear friend with me, Barbara Diaz De Leone, and she is a health and wellness coach. She received her certifications through primal health coach Institute, and the Institute of transformational nutrition. She is the founder of daily wellness for you, and the primal and pink wellness group. Barb had her own remarkable mind body transformation and her journey through chronic fatigue. And she is passionate to help other women do the same. Barb’s coaching practice is dedicated to helping women to lose weight, regain energy and start living their life. Again, her clients are shown how to incorporate simple nutrition, exercise, lifestyle and mindset practices that are sustainable. Everybody knows we have to do these things that are sustainable for us. I’ve known Barb for a very long time, she’s a dear friend. And I can’t wait to have this comfort conversation with her so she can share with you her journey into health and wellness. Now, you definitely want to stay on to the end because Barb has a great free gift for everyone that’s here and listening. And you won’t want to miss that. So without further ado, we’re going to have a minute with our sponsor, and we are going to be on to talk to Barb.

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Debra Muth 3:18Welcome back, I have my dear friend, Barb Diaz De Leon with me today and I can’t wait for you guys to hear her story because she has an incredible story for you guys today. And I know that it’s gonna hit a lot of you that are listening. She will hit a lot of spots for you that you will be able to relate to. So Barb, Welcome to the show.

Barb Diaz De Leon 3:38Oh, thank you so much for having me. Dr. Muth it’s so good to be here.

Debra Muth 3:42Oh, well, it is a pleasure. So you have a very interesting story to share with us. And you and I have known each other for quite a while. I want to say probably 15 years. Yeah, I would say so. Tell us your story in your journey.

Barb Diaz De Leon 3:58Oh my goodness. Well, my story started out I was in my 30s. And I got I was just working and living my life I met my husband got married and then shortly after I got married in my 30s I had massive fatigue. And I didn’t know anything about integrative medicine or functional medicine or holistic circles. And so I went to my regular, you know, conventional DAC, and they found that I had hypothyroidism did not pick up on my autoimmune disorder, the Hashimotos and prescribed Synthroid. And I did have a little bit of improvement, but I was still super tired. And then along this I also had a lot of female problems too. I gotten a uterine fibroid and never had any issues with you know, my female cycle in the past. And you know, and I just got married and I wanted to have kids right and here I am tired. And I have all these, you know, menstrual problems. Now this big fibroid, and I went ahead and got a uterine embolization unified embolization before there was even a medical billing code for it, it was pretty new at that time, just to see if you know, to try to have a baby. Meanwhile, my hormones weren’t addressed, and I was massively fatigued all the time. And it was so, so disheartening and frustrating. And I did end up getting a hysterectomy. And again, I didn’t know anything about integrative medicine or anything like that. And who knows, you know, if I had implemented what I know, now back then if that would have changed things, but I strongly suspect that they would have so and so I suffered for gosh, like well over 15 years with this massive fatigue, and then you know, going through the emotional part of having a hysterectomy, you know, when I was hoping to have children, and and be told by doctors, you’re fine, you know, that was really hard. And then I did see and I had other symptoms too, like body, right joint pain, bloating, mood issues, sleep issues, just all kinds of things, you name it. And I did finally, find some integrative providers. But actually, they weren’t turning over the right rocks yet. And it’s nothing against them. And I learned a lot from them. And they did try. And it got to a point where people were that provides, you’re starting to tell me, you know, they were telling me to get counseling and things like that, instead of prescribing books to read, which was great. And I’m all for counseling, my dad was a counselor, I’m a big fan of it, I think we all could use some of that, no matter where we are in our life, I’m 100% but I just knew there was a physical component to it. I just knew, you know, it just it wasn’t getting resolved. And and I was really getting down and out. And you know, going out with this for years and going through caretaking my mom and you know, drinking massive amounts of coffee, and it was just, you know, unbelievable time it was now I look back, it’s pretty much a blur. But I...

What if I told you that before a single drop of chemotherapy goes into a cancer patient's body, we can take a blood sample, grow their actual living cancer cells in a lab, and test 70 different drugs against those cells, all outside the patient's body, to find out which ones actually work. And what if I told you that the conventional oncology doesn't routinely use this test? Well, today we're going to talk about why that matters and we're going to go through and I'm going to share a story that is very personal to me. It's about a 38 year old man with a rare complex cancer diagnosis and the precision testing that is helping to keep that cancer from progressing. Stay with me. This is one that is going to change how you think about cancer treatment.

Deb 01:05

You guys can put a little ad right in here before we start the next segment here. Hey everybody, welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I'm Dr. Deb and today we're going deep. I mean really deep. It's some of the most cutting edge cancer testing I have ever seen in clinical practice. Now, normally I don't talk about cancer. And I would not be sharing this story if it was anyone other than my own family. I do have permission to share and talk about this publicly. So I want to do this. I want to make sure that I share this message. And he is giving his blessing to share this story because we both believe that it can save lives. So his name is Cameron. He's 38 years old. And he is my son-in-law. And two years ago, he came to me with a small lymph node underneath his arm and a bullseye rash. So of course, being the lime literate person that I am, my first inclination was to say, yeah, this makes sense. You have an enlarged lymph node because you have this bullseye rash. You got bit by the tick. Let's keep an eye on it. If it doesn't go away, let me know. So Fast forward a year and a half later, he comes to me and says, mom, what do you think about this? This thing is getting a little bit larger. And I said, yeah, it's a little larger. Not sure. Let's keep an eye on it. He wasn't feeling anything. All his labs looked okay. And then one day he was out chopping wood and he started getting numbness in that arm and he felt it again. And it had exploded in size. And so after some evaluation with my daughter and him, we decided to do a ultrasound. And we thought what was going to come back was a fatty tumor. It felt like one looks like one responded to one. He's 38 years old. He's healthy. There's nothing in our mind that's ever thinking the result that we're going to get back.

Deb 03:28

Is a possible lymphoma. Needless to say, we were shocked by that ultrasound result. And we go fast forward, we have the biopsy. I requested a total excisional biopsy. I was told by the oncologist that that was old school. They don't do that that way anymore. And I need to stay out of this. I need to let the experts take care of this because that's what they do best. And this came from a breast surgeon here in Wisconsin. And so I stepped back for a moment. I let him do his biopsy and what came back was adenocarcinoma of an unknown origin. Had we excised the entire lymph node, we would have had more tissue to work with. I think we could have gotten a better diagnosis. So over the course of the next two and a half, three months, we have some more imaging done. We have some more testing done. They send a pathology out to Mayo Clinic. And what continues to come back is this incongruent test results. If anybody's ever had this, it's extremely frustrating. One test shows lymphoma. Now it shows breast cancer. Then the next week it shows estrogen receptor HER2 positive breast cancer. Two weeks later, another test comes back and it says, no, it's not HER2, it's triple negative breast cancer. And now it looks like it's out of the lymph nodes. Now it looks like it's in the lymph nodes. And we do a PET scan and they can't find cancer anywhere except in this axilla area. But now we find a lymph node on the right side. So it must have spread.

Let's go ahead and do a biopsy on that. And so they biopsy the right side and the right side comes back with nothing other than tattoo ink. Now, all of this is kind of crazy. I am not a cancer specialist. I want to start by saying that I am not a cancer specialist. What I am sharing today is from a mother-in-law's perspective, from a medical detective's perspective, I do know how to do research. I do know how to find answers. And so what I'm going to share with you

Deb 05:54

is totally my opinion and totally my experience. And I'm not telling anybody to do anything different than what their doctors are telling them to do. But I am telling you to ask questions. So I go deep down the rabbit hole and find out that Tattoo Ink can appear like metastatic cancer on a PET scan. And we all know everybody gets tattoos today. They're all over everyone. And yet we're not thinking about how this tattoo ink can cause problems for us down the road, not to mention that there are heavy metals in them and it's a toxin and it's creating an inflammatory process in your body that your body's constantly trying to get rid of. So the surgeon says to us, well, yes, that's normal that that lymph nodes inflamed. It's normal that there's tattoo ink in it. The body's doing what it's supposed to do. It's trying to get rid of a toxin. Okay. I will agree with that, but My son-in-law is covered with tattoos everywhere. And why didn't we mention the tattoo ink that was found in the left axilla? We are only mentioning it in the right axilla. So there's a lot of controversy, a lot of confusion. Many of you would never know any of this because A, you either don't look at your lab results. And if you do, you don't understand what you're looking at. And that creates a problem for us, right? You don't know what questions to ask. So we go into the doctor and the doctor tells us you have cancer and we're going to swoop you in. And in the next two weeks, you're going to be doing chemotherapy and radiation. And six months from now, we're going to be doing surgery and there's no time for questions and you're scared shitless and you're just doing what you can to survive. And I get that. And I totally understand that. And I appreciate that. But I'm telling you that If that is your choice, that is your choice. But as you're doing that, take the time to ask the right questions. When this happened to us, there was a lot of challenging things with the oncology team. Nobody bothered to allow them to be a partner in their care. They dictated their care, but didn't allow them to be a partner. So,

Deb 08:17

Here's what most oncologists do when patients get a cancer diagnosis. They look at the tumor type, they look at the stage, they look up the NCC guidelines, the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, and they follow the algorithm. Now, I have an enormous respect for conventional oncology. I really do. Working with cancer is probably one of the hardest things in medicine that anyone can do. The advances in this field over the last 10 years have been remarkable. But here's my issue. Standard treatment assumes your cancer is the same as the cancer in the clinical trial that created the guidelines. It's assuming that you and your cancer are the exact same as everyone else. You are the unique fingerprint, not the cancer. And this is the problem because your cancer is unique, just as unique as if you had your fingerprint taken, the mutations driving your tumor, the drugs your cancer cells are sensitive to, the metabolic vulnerabilities of your cancer. These are all different from the person sitting next to you in the chemo suite that has the same triple negative breast cancer or HER2 positive breast cancer or prostate cancer or colon cancer that you have.

So what do do about that? Well, in my world, in the integrative medicine world, we test precisely, intelligently with the tools that most oncologists have never heard of. Or if they have, they haven't incorporated it into their treatment modality for a variety of reasons. Either it's not acceptable by the organization that they work for, they don't understand it, They're not going to be able to change their protocol anyway because they have to follow the NCCN protocol. So they don't do it or they use a portion of it and they don't do anything outside the protocol. So today I want to cover three things with you, three tools that we used that I think every cancer patient should be asking for when they start treatment or wherever you are in treatment at this point.

Deb 10:44

you need to have these tests done. I don't have any affiliation with any of these companies. I don't get paid to tell you any of this. So let me just start by saying that I understand the chemistry behind these and how important it is to give you precision cancer treatment. And that's why I'm talking about them today. The first one we're going to talk about is the North Star response. This is your cancer surveillance score in the blood. How much cancer is circulating in the blood. The North Star Select, your cancer's genomic blueprint from a blood draw. And the Datar Cancer Genetic Chemoscale, the live cell drug sensitivity test that tells us which drugs actually kill your cancer. So let's go. Let's dive into this. Let me just take a drink here. I'm going to cough a little bit. I apologize. I have this horrible tickle. It just never seems to go away, but that is not for today to discuss. So what is all of this? OK, the North Star response is a test that was developed by a company called Billion to One. And yes, that name is intentional because of the precision involved. It's a next generation sequencing test, meaning it reads DNA at an incredibly detailed level. And it looks at something called methylated circulating tumor DNA or methylated CT DNA....

Discover why diagnostic errors are so common, the emotional and financial toll they take, and how we can all become stronger advocates for our own health. If you think it couldn’t happen to you, think again. This episode will change how you view the healthcare system—and your role in it.

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Deb 0:04Hello and welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr, Deb, and today we’re diving into a topic that has touched the lives of millions and has far reaching implications in our healthcare system. Misdiagnoses each year an estimated 12 million adults in the United States are affected by diagnostic error. That’s one in 20 patients who leave the doctor’s office with a label that may be wrong, or worse, without answers at all. This isn’t just about missed or misunderstood diagnoses, it’s about lives turned upside down, families left searching and healthcare systems that sometimes overlook the root causes of chronic illness. In my practice, I see firsthand the devastation caused by these diagnostic failures, particularly with complex conditions like Lyme disease and toxic related illnesses, and when you dig deeper into the numbers, the implications are staggering. A report by Johns Hopkins University found that diagnostic errors contribute to over 80,000 deaths annually in the US, making them one of the most significant public health crises of our time. Today, we’re going to take a look at some of the real stories behind those statistics, including cases that my very own, Dr Brown, who works for me, shared on the popular show, monsters inside of me. Let’s jump right into this. So let’s start with Lyme disease. It’s often called the Great imitator, because it mimics so many other conditions. According to the CDC, over 476,000 people in the US are diagnosed and treated for Lyme disease each year. I would say my personal opinion is that that number is probably a little bit lower, and I say that because I know the number of people that I see in my office that have had a negative test result done conventionally, and then we do a gold standard test through a company called iGenex, and we get positive. I also know there’s been some issues with the reporting of these cases as well to the Health Department. One time, my office called the Health Department to report a case in February, and we were told by the healthcare worker that they weren’t taking any new cases for the year. And we were perplexed. We thought, What are you talking about? This is a communicable disease that needs to be reported, and you’re telling us you’re not going to take the case and report it. And when we questioned it, the answer from the person on the other side was we had already met our quota for the year. And again, we questioned, there is no quota in a reportable disease, and she refused to take the information from us. So we know that some of these statistics are not as accurate. These numbers could be much lower than what we’re actually seeing reported, but the true number may be even higher, as we’ve said, given how frequently the disease is misdiagnosed as chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia and even psychiatric disorders. Patients suffering from Lyme often report symptoms that include extreme fatigue, muscle pain, headaches, neurological issues, yet many are misdiagnosed with a mental health condition like depression, anxiety and their unexplained symptoms are often dismissed as psychosomatic. Take, for example, a patient who was misdiagnosed for years treated for everything under the sun except the actual cause line after being prescribed antidepressants and painkillers, along with even sedatives, they still didn’t improve. What’s even more shocking is the testing issue. Standard Lyme tests are notoriously inaccurate. They raise false negative rates for Lyme tests that can reach as high as 50% leaving patients in limbo while their symptoms worsen. These are isolated incidences. You say these are systemic failures.

Deb 4:29Now, here’s where Dr Brown’s work came in on the show monsters inside of me. Dr Brown highlighted a case where a patient had been living with Lyme for years but had been told repeatedly that it was all in her head, her symptoms only worsened. This individual was prescribed multiple medications for anxiety, and yet those symptoms progressed and worsened after exhaustive testing and a new approach that. Were finally correctly diagnosed with Lyme disease. But how many patients never get that second look? How many endure years and even decades of mistreatment? Lyme isn’t the only example of misdiagnosis in complex chronic illnesses. Another hidden and often ignored issue is environmental toxin exposure. Toxins come from various sources, mold, heavy metals, pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, industrial pollutants. Our very own World Health Organization, the WHO estimates that 23% of global deaths are linked to environmental factors, yet in traditional healthcare, toxin exposure is rarely considered a root cause. Take mold toxicity for an example, despite an estimated 50% of the US buildings showing signs of mold contamination, mold toxicity is still misdiagnosed as allergies, asthma or a mental health disorder. People experience symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, joint pain and digestive issues, and yet they’re all told it’s just IBS, irritable bowel syndrome or it’s stress related. But mold toxicity is more than just a nuisance, it’s a serious neurotoxin that can wreak havoc in the brain and in the immune system. One case from my practice stands out, a patient in her 40s who was misdiagnosed with early onset dementia. Her memory was deteriorating and her cognitive abilities were declining. She had been to numerous specialists, all of whom concluded it was a rare form of dementia. But after conducting specific tests, we found that her home had severe mold problems, which was causing the neurotoxicity. When we removed the mold exposure and began detoxification, her symptoms started to improve, and it was a life changing diagnosis for her, she could have spent decades in a nursing home, spending hundreds of 1000s of dollars on medications that wouldn’t have worked for her, because they were the wrong medications. It’s important to advocate for yourself,

Deb 1 7:19to trust your own instincts and ask questions of your practitioners. Tell the story of how you got sick, look at your story of what was going on before you got sick, so that you can see if there’s any links or connections to any of these conditions. These examples are why we need to challenge that status quo in healthcare. Stories like these aren’t rare. They’re alarmingly common. The British Medical Journal, quality and safety Journal report, they report that 12 million Americans are misdiagnosed every year. Yet how often are these errors truly investigated? Lyme disease, mold, toxicity, chronic viral infections. These are just a few examples of illnesses that often go undetected or mislabeled. Autoimmune diseases are another area where misdiagnosis runs rampant. Conditions like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome often serve as a catch all diagnosis when doctors don’t have a clear answer, but autoimmune symptoms can sometimes be linked to chronic infections or environmental toxins, issues that conventional medicine rarely digs into. Let’s talk about the system itself. In mainstream healthcare, there’s a reliance on testing protocols and standard treatments that often don’t account for the unique complexities of each individual. There’s a famous quote by Dr Marty mercury from the John Hopkins, who stated that the third leading cause of death in the United States is a medical error, and diagnostic errors are a big part of the issue when we focus solely on symptoms without exploring underlying causes, we’re not truly serving the patient. RFK, JR and other advocates of medical freedom have called for the reevaluation of our healthcare system, a system that too often dismisses patient concerns, relies on outdated testing and doesn’t prioritize environmental and nutritional factors. They’ve pushed for transparency in medical practices and have highlighted the dangers of ignoring environmental triggers in chronic disease. And I fully agree with this perspective. This isn’t about controversy for the sake of it, it’s about doing what’s right. Our practice takes a broader approach. For precisely this reason, we consider environmental exposures, nutrition, lifestyle and advantage, lab, excuse me, advanced lab testing that goes beyond the basics. It’s about giving the body what it needs to heal, not just. Trying to suppress symptoms, and yes, this sometimes involves treatments that are considered alternative, but what matters most is that the patients are finally finding relief. It’s time we start demanding that healthcare addresses the root cause, not just the symptoms. If we don’t, we’re only going to see more cases like those on monsters inside of me, where patien...

February 2026, 3 million documents released, a network exposed. But here's what no one is saying.

The trauma of trafficking doesn't end when the victim escapes.

It doesn't even end when that survivor's lifetime.

It writes itself into DNA. It alters the stress response of children not yet born.

And it creates epigenetic markers that echo through 3, 4, and even 5 generations.

This is not a metaphor, this is molecular biology. And if we don't understand how deeply trauma sees itself.

biologically, genetically, and spiritually, we will never understand why autoimmune disease, addiction, and chronic illness are epidemic in families that carry this hidden history.

Today, we're going deeper than headlines.

We're going into the cells, the genes, and the soul.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. We're here to uncover root causes, explore regenerative medicine, and empower you to heal from the inside out. I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today we're confronting one of the most important and least discussed wellness topics of our time.

How the exploitation and trafficking of women and children doesn't just harm individuals, it damages bloodlines.

And if you're someone who carries an unexplained chronic illness, autoimmune disease, addiction, or trauma that seems to have no clear origin, this episode may finally connect the dots.

Grab your cup of tea or coffee, settle in, and let's go deep into this subject.

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Let's start with what just happened.

In February of 2026, the Department of Justice released over 3 million pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. According to The Guardian, on February 2nd, 2026, these files contained allegations that Epstein didn't just abuse women, he provided them to other powerful men.

One accuser identified Harvey Weinstein from a photo lineup.

Describing coercion and payment.

Another FBI document described threats of force.

Lativia launched a criminal investigation after the files linked Epstein's network to modeling agencies overseas.

But here's what I need you to understand.

As a practitioner who treats trauma survivors, Epstein's operation was not new.

It was ancient. From Mesopotamian slave codes to Roman markets to the transatlantic trade, trafficking has always been about the same thing.

Power, and exploiting vulnerability for profit.

The tools change. Private jets instead of ships, social media instead of market squares.

But the wound, it's identical.

And that wound… It doesn't heal when the victim is freed. It embeds itself into biology.

Let me explain what happens when a human being experiences the kind of trauma that trafficking creates.

The immediate biological response. When someone is trafficked, their body enters a state of chronic survival mode. The autonomic nervous system, which controls unconscious functions like heart rate, digestion, immune response, it gets locked into a fight or flight.

Cortisol, the primary stress hormone, floods the system. At least, at first. This is protective. But when the threat never ends, when abuse is daily, when escape is impossible, cortisol stays elevated for months and even years.

And here's what chronic cortisol does. It suppresses immune function, making the body vulnerable to infections, cancer, and autoimmune disease. It disrupts the gut microbiome, leading to leaky gut, food sensitivity, and systemic inflammation.

It dysregulates hormone production, thyroid sex hormones, insulin, and it creates metabolic chaos. It damages the hippocampus, the part of the brain region responsible for memory and emotional regulation.

But it goes deeper than that. Cellular memory, trauma written into our tissues.

Research published in the Biological Psychiatry of 2025 and Frontiers in Psychiatry 2025 shows that trauma doesn't just affect the brain, it reprograms cells throughout the body.

Mitochondria, the energy factories inside every cell, shift from producing ATP energy to producing reactive oxygen species, stress signals.

This is why trauma survivors often develop chronic fatigue syndrome.

That cortisol, over time, starts to dive down, and eventually can't be produced when it's supposed to be during a traumatic episode, and it stays at this low level, creating what we now know as chronic fatigue syndrome.

Inflammatory genes turn on and stay on, even after the threat is gone. This is why we see such high rates of autoimmune disease, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, MS, inflammatory bowel disease, in trafficking survivors.

The fascia, the connective tissue that wraps every muscle and organ, stores trauma physically. This is why survivors develop chronic pain, fibromyalgia, and tension that no amount of massage can release.

The body literally remembers the violation at a cellular level.

The ACE study, Childhood Trauma as a Disease Predictor, the CDC's Adverse Childhood Experiences Study in 2025, showed that 64% of the U.S. adults had experienced at least one ACE abuse.

neglect, or household dysfunction. And nearly 1 in 6 has experienced 4 or more.

And the data is devastating. The ACE that you have maybe experienced, if you have had this, you have a higher risk for heart disease, stroke, cancer, diabetes, autoimmune disease, depression, suicide, and addiction.

Trafficking survivors often score 8, 9, or 10 out of a 10 on the ACE scale. Their bodies are biologically aged by trauma.

And according to the VA's National Center for PTSD, PTSD is associated with excess mortality, meaning survivors die younger, not just from suicide, but from the stress related to chronic disease.

Now, here's where it gets even more profound. What is epigenetics? Well, your DNA is like a library of instructions, but not every book is open all the time. Epigenetics is the system that decides which genes get turned on.

or off, without changing the DNA sequence itself.

And here's the critical discovery.

Trauma can change those epigenetic marks, and those marks can be passed to your children.

The Science of Inherited Trauma.

The studies on the Holocaust survivors and their descendants showed that children and grandchildren of trauma survivors had altered stress hormone regulation, even though they never experienced the original trauma themselves.

Research on famine shows in the Netherlands during World War II,

Found that children born to mothers who were pregnant during starvation had higher rates of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease decades later.

This happens because stress during pregnancy alters the developing fetus' stress response system, and when a pregnant woman is trafficked, abused, or living in chronic fear, her elevated cortisol levels cross the placenta, and the baby's developing brain is bathed in stress hormones.

And the child's HPA access, the stress regulation system, Is programmed for hypervigilance.

The child is born with a biological predisposition to anxiety, depression, autoimmune disease, and addiction.

And it doesn't stop there.

That child grows up, and if they have children, their altered stress response can influence the next generation through epigenetic inheritance, and through the environment they create.

This is why we see patterns of addiction, autoimmune disease, and mental illness running through families, even when there's no clear genetic mutation.

It's not just genetics, it's inherited trauma written into gene expression.

There is also a spiritual dimension to this. There's something beyond biology here, something that science is only beginning to touch.

Survivors often describe feeling disconnected from their bodies, as if their spirit left during the abuse.

And never fully returned.

This is disassociation, a survival mechanism.

But in many healing traditions, somatic therapy, internal family systems, even ancient spiritual practices, there's recognition that trauma fragments the self.

And healing isn't just about regulating cortisol or repairing the gut, it's about reuniting the spirit with the body. It's about teaching the nervous system that it's finally safe to be fully present once again.

And when that happens, when one person heals that fracture, it changes the trajectory for everyone else who comes after them.

So what do we do with this knowledge? Well, first.

Trauma-informed root cause medicine. Healing trafficking survivors and their descendants requires more than talk therapy. It requires nervous system regulation, vagal nerve stimulation, somatic experience, breathwork.

Gut healing, repairing the microbiome, addressing that leaky gut, and reducing the inflammation.

Hormone balancing, supporting adrenal function, thyroid, and sex hormones, detoxification, clearing accumulated toxins that the stressed body couldn't process, both physically and emotionally.

Nutritional restoration. Replenishing the nutrients depleted by chronic stress.

This is functional medicine. This is what I do every day with my team.

Second, we need epigenetic reversal, and that is actually possible.

Here's the hope. Epigenetic marks

can be changed. Studies show that meditation therapy, safe relationships, and even nutrition can reverse some of the epigenetic damage caused by trauma.

Every time a survivor learns to regulate their nervous system, they're not just healing themselves, they're changing what gets passed to the next generation.

Third, we have to speak the truth.

Silence protects the perpetrators. Truth-telling breaks generational curses. And every time we name trafficking for what it is, a...

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Dr. Kahn is a Clinical Professor of Medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine and Director of Cardiac Wellness, Michigan Healthcare Professionals PC. He is a graduate Summa Cum Laude of the University of Michigan School of Medicine. He lectures widely on the cardiac benefits of vegan nutrition, mind body practices and heart attack prevention. He writes blogs for MindBodyGreen, OneGreenPlanet, Aloha.com, and Forksoverknives.com. He also writes for Readers Digest Magazine as the Holistic Heart Doc and his first book, The Whole Heart Solution.

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Transcript of Episode 165:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I’m so excited that you’re joining us again today. I have a very amazing guests for you. I know I say that every week, but the people I get a chance to talk to are so amazing and just bring such incredible knowledge and wealth of information that it excites me so much.

Debra Muth 0:36But I want to bring to you today my dear friend, Dr. Joel Kahn. Joel is the Clinical Professor of Medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine and is the director of cardiac wellness, Michigan healthcare professionals PC. And we are going to talk today about how heavy metals can affect the heart and how they even get into your body. For those that are not familiar with this. This idea of cardiovascular issues as a result of heavy metals is untapped information for just about everybody in the conventional medical model. In our alternative medical model that is very different. A lot of people are familiar with how these heavy metals create cardiovascular problems. But Dr. Joel Khan has been a pioneer in this industry in treating cardiovascular disease and heavy metals for years and I have followed him, this is going to be an honor to speak with him. You guys are just going to love Him and be amazed at the information that he shares with us today. So without further ado, we are going to get a message from our sponsor quick here. And then I am going to interview Dr. Joel Khan for you guys.

Debra Muth 2:01Have you seen 20+ medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, We understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenityhealthcarecenter.com.

Debra Muth 3:20Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have with you today Dr. Joel Khan. He is amazing. I’ve been following him for years and I can’t wait to have this conversation with him about cardiovascular disease and heavy metals. So Dr. Cohn, welcome to the show.

Dr. Joel Kahn 3:36Thank you so much.

Debra Muth 3:37So Dr. Kahn tell us a little bit about yourself.

Dr. Joel Kahn 3:41Sure, I am in my clinical office. I’m an active cardiologist in suburban Detroit, Michigan, grew up about two miles away a really exotic upbringing. In terms of just still practicing so close to my original home. I did wander out of state for a number of years to do cardiology trainings. And I came back to Michigan long ago, 32 years ago. And if anybody wonders if they’re watching this amount of treadmill desk, which is my routine, throughout the whole day, eight hours a day I walk, seeing patients whether they be by zoom or in my office, hopefully it won’t be distracting. But um, I wander back to Michigan and have stayed here for 32 years but in the course of a very conventional cardiology life, treating heart attacks bypass patients stent patients, cholesterol blood pressure, I had adopted a whole food plant based vegan diet at age 18. And by the time I started practicing cardiology, it struck me there’s data coming out that this might be a therapy I should share with patients. So I’ve really had a privilege of being you know, nutrition and forward focused throughout medical school residency fellowship, and every patient I’ve ever seen has gotten a little indoctrination about food as medicine So, about seven years ago, I ditched the old life and completely changed to what I’ll do till I’m hopefully 128 years old as a cardiologist, which is preventive cardiology, reversal cardiology, integrative cardiology, and we do a lot of high tech stuff to identify how much disease burden you have. And then we do a lot of non prescription therapy to try and improve upon it. If there’s a problem.

Debra Muth 5:30That’s awesome. I love that idea of truly fixing the problem or getting to the root of the problem and trying to change it from a lifestyle aspect instead of waiting, and saying, Well, there’s nothing we can do until an episode happens until you have a heart attack or a stroke, or you’ve got a blockage somewhere, and now we come in and intervene.

Dr. Joel Kahn 5:53Right. And, you know, it can work at any stage in life, I do see a lot of people and I’ve followed a lot of people for decades that have had their heart attack or bypass or stroke, but up out of, you know, grave concern, they come to the conclusion, or they were taught that conclusion. It’s never too late. And you don’t want to have that happen a second time. But you know, a lot of my practice are people that on the outside looks perfectly fine. And they basically walk in say, Just take me a buyer told me the reality, put me back together and patch me up, like my 30,000 mile car checkup. You know, people don’t know if they have damaged arteries are not 10 years before their heart attack. But that’s what the technology is very simple. And then you can really make a big difference so that you never have those procedures or life altering events, or even life shortening events.

Debra Muth 6:46That’s amazing. So how do you look at somebody to see if there’s artery damage for them before they know there’s a problem present?

Dr. Joel Kahn 6:54Yeah, in addition to the ever present, very detailed history, physical exam might give a little about the one historical besides obviously, have you been a smoker and diabetic blood pressure and your diet and your sleep and your stress and your dental health? A man with erectile dysfunction, which is extremely common, you know, maybe 50% of men by age 50, or 60 are struggling with that. That’s always a clue that they may have clogged arteries, bad vascular supply. There are other causes, but that should never be overlooked. There’s a very unusual physical exam finding not in terms of its frequency in terms of its use, but it’s called a diagonal ear lobe crease. It was described in the 1970s by ...

Dr. Deb 1:34So the general immune system is an innate and specific defense. There’s an I want to start with an overview of the immune system itself. This incredible network is divided into two main parts, the innate immune system and the adapted immune system, or as I like to call them, the first responders and the special forces. Now your first responders, the innate immune system, is your body’s first line of defense, and it’s always on duty. So imagine it as your security guard stationed at the entry points of your body, like your skin, your mucus membranes, and they’re even your chemical defenses, such as stomach acid. This kills harmful bacteria and the enzymes in the tears and breaks down those invaders. When a pathogen, like a virus, a bacteria or a fungi, makes it past these barriers, the innate immune system jumps into action. Its response is immediate but non specific, meaning it treats every invader the same way. Key players in this system include our macrophages. Think of these as the immune system’s garbage collectors. They roam your tissues looking for any harmful bacteria viruses to engulf and destroy. This process is called phagocytosis, where the macrophages essentially eat the pathogen, kind of like Pac Man, if you remember that game from way back, right, then we have the neutrophils. Now these are the reinforcements. They’re the most abundant type of white blood cell in your bloodstream and are called to action when there’s an infection. They also destroy pathogens through phagocytosis and release substances to kill the invaders. But there’s one thing about the innate immune system, while it’s fast and effective in the short term, it’s not very specific, and it doesn’t have the ability to tailor its response to particular invaders, which is where the adaptive immune system comes in. Now your adaptive immune system are your special forces. This is like your team of highly trained specialists. Think of this as your

Dr. Deb 4:03your what’s the name that I’m thinking of

Dr. Deb 4:07in the military, these are your special forces, right? These are the guys that come in, and they are stealth in nature. They take out the bad guys, and they’re in and out before you even know that they were there. So unlike the innate immune system, the adaptive immune system doesn’t respond immediately. It takes time to analyze the invader, figure out its weak spots and mount that precise attack. Now, the adaptive system relies on two types of cells, T cells, these are the field commanders. They orchestrate the immune response, directing all of the cells to where they’re needed to go. And certain T cells, called cytotoxic T cells, even destroy infected cells directly. Now your B cells.

Dr. Deb 5:00Is these are immune system weapon manufacturers. They produce antibodies, specialized proteins that lock into those specific invaders, marking them for destruction or neutralizing them outright. Here’s the coolest thing about the adaptive system. It learns so once it fights off a specific invader, it creates a memory cell which sticks around in your body. And these memory cells allow your immune system to respond faster and more effectively if you’re exposed to the same pathogen again in the future. This is the basis of how some vaccines are supposed to work. They train your adaptive immune system without exposing you to the full disease. Now here’s a really good example. Let’s talk about the common cold. When you are first exposed to the cold virus, your innate immune system jumps into action. The macrophages and the neutrophils work to contain the infection. They engulf, they destroy as many viruses as they can. This is why you might feel symptoms like a fever, body aches, stuffy nose. Early on, the innate systems, inflammatory response is in full swing. But if the virus manages to spread, your adaptive immune system steps in takes a little longer because your T cells and B cells need time to recognize the cold virus and create a tailored response. So B cells start producing antibodies that specifically target that strain of the virus, and the T cells attack infected cells directly. Here’s where it gets interesting. Once your adaptive immune system has fought off the cold, it stores the memory of that virus. So if you’re exposed to the same strain again, your body can mount a much faster response and a stronger response, often neutralizing the virus before you even feel sick. Now, one of the problems we have with this is that viruses mutate, and so they don’t have the exact same cell structure every single time once they’ve mutated, so sometimes your body will recognize part of that virus, but it may not recognize the whole thing, and that’s why people get sick every year with a different cold.

Dr. Deb 7:26So imagine you’re defending a castle. The innate immune system is like the guards on the wall repelling any attackers they see without worrying about who they are. The adaptive immune system is like a group of knights who study the enemy’s strategy, develop that tailored plan, and then they train the castle’s defenders to handle future attacks from the same enemy. Now your immune system isn’t just your defense system, it’s your body’s Memory Keeper learning from past battles to protect you better in the future.

Dr. Deb 8:04Now let’s look at something that surprises a lot of people. Did you know your brain has its own immune system? Why does the brain need its own immune system? Because of something called the blood brain barrier. This barrier is like an exclusive VIP club for your brain. Only select molecules like oxygen, nutrients and hormones are allowed to enter. It keeps out most pathogens, like bacterias and viruses, as well as some immune cells from the rest of your body. Now this is how this is like supposed to work. It’s supposed to keep things out

Dr. Deb 8:45however. We’ve learned over time that these infections, these bacterias, these pathogens, can cross the blood brain barrier, which has made chronic illness and neuro neurological diseases much more complex. Now, this level of protection is crucial, because even a minor infection in the brain could cause a catastrophic damage to the delicate neurons. However, the same barrier that protects the brain also isolates it, which means the immune system in the rest of your body can’t easily come to the brain’s rescue when something goes wrong. Now the microglia, these are the brain’s cleanup crew. This is where the microglia are the brain’s resident immune systems, or immune cells. I should say they’re tiny, but incredibly powerful, and they work around the clock to keep your brain healthy, patrolling the brain the microglia acts like the security guards, constantly scanning their environment for anything that doesn’t belong, damaged neurons, harmful proteins and debris from dead cells. So.

Dr. Deb 10:00Phagocytosis is when they find something harmful, the microglia spring into action engulfing and ingesting the threat in a process that we call phagocytosis. This keeps the brain clean and functional. Now the microglia also play a role in maintaining the balance in the health of the brain, they help prune unnecessary synapses during brain development and even regulate neural circuits in adulthood. In a healthy brain, microglia perform these tasks seamlessly, allowing your neurons, the true stars of the brain, to focus on transmitting signals that control everything from memory to movement.

Dr. Deb 10:47But what happens when the microglia go rogue?

Dr. Deb 10:51Well, the brain, the microglia, this part of the brain function, gets out of balance, and like any other part of the immune system, the microglia can become overactive, and that’s really where part of the problem starts. When the microglia are constantly activated, they release inflammatory molecules designed to fight off invaders, and this is useful in the short term, but if this activation becomes chronic, it can cause significant harm. The inflammation doesn’t just attack the invaders. It starts damaging healthy brain cells, particularly neurons. This chronic inflammation is a driving force behind neurodegenerative diseases. So in Alzheimer’s disease, overactive microglia failed to clear the harmful protein plaques such as amyloid beta, and these plaques disrupt communication between neurons and eventually lead to their death. In Parkinson’s disease, inflammation accelerates t...

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Deb  1:45 

Welcome to uncovering the truth in your food where we’re going to dive deep into what’s hiding in the foods we eat every day. I’m Dr Deb, a naturopath passionate about uncovering the truth about our food systems and making our system and people healthier. Today, we’re peeling back the layers on additives, pesticides and herbicides commonly found in our food, and exploring why these ingredients are more tightly regulated in places like Europe than they are in the US.

Deb  2:17 

So why is it that so many chemicals banned across the world are still widely used in America’s food supply, and what impact could they be having in our health?

Deb  2:30 

Many everyday food items are filled with substances that don’t just add color or prolong the shelf life. They pose real health risks we have known for decades that artificial food dyes are one of our well known examples that have been linked to behavioral issues in children. But dyes aren’t the only concern. Today. We’re also exploring some of the hidden toxins, like pesticides and herbicides that can affect our health in a subtle but lasting way.

Deb  3:04 

Robert Kennedy Jr has been very vocal about the need for tighter regulations, and he argues that our current food regulatory framework prioritizes corporate interests over public health, allowing chemicals like glyphosate and synthetic dyes to remain in our food despite evidence of harm. Glyphosate is the active ingredient in Roundup.

Deb  3:29 

It is one of the most widely used herbicides in the world, and in 2015 the World Health Organization’s International Agency for Research on Cancer classified glyphosate as a probable human carcinogen.

Deb  3:43 

So let me let that sink in for just a second.

Deb  3:47 

Why are we putting a active carcinogen on our food?

Deb  3:54 

And you may think that this doesn’t really happen, but it does our big farming, industrial farming, which I have no problem with farming. My family were farmers. They’re still farming. We farm, and I think it’s important for us to deliver healthy food, but putting a toxin on our food to grow a larger crop or produce more at the risk of increasing cancer in our people. I’m not willing to trade that. That’s just not worth it when we can do farming in a different way, and we can have different practices that will still yield us a lot of product,

Deb  4:41 

but without the toxins. Now, people might argue and say this isn’t true, but I’m going to tell you to take a look at the ads that run on TV if you granted thereby the legal system attorneys, if you’ve been exposed to paraquat, you.

Deb  5:00 

Call us if you’ve developed Parkinson’s disease. Well, paraquat is an industrial pesticide used by farmers, and people who are exposed to this in quantities that could be mild or moderate, can develop neurological diseases. Don’t believe me.

Deb  5:18 

Go read the back of the label. It will tell you all of the consequences that can happen. Go to the internet and look up the side effects of paraquat. It’s neurological conditions that occur after being exposed to a product like paraquat. Roundup has very similar things. You know, we spray roundup on our weeds, because we don’t want our weeds to grow. Well, when we spray it on our foods and on our land, that’s the same thing that happens. But we not only then disrupted the plant that we’re growing, we’ve also disrupted the soil for a number of years after that, because you cannot get those chemicals out of our soils immediately. Now Have there been ways that people have found to get that out of the soil quicker? Yes, they grow hemp on that land, and if they grow hemp on that land, the toxins grow up in the hemp, and then they can throw away the hemp, and a lot of those toxins can be pulled from the soil.

Deb  6:17 

Still, don’t believe me. What about water supply?

Deb  6:21 

We know that that round off roundup that grows goes on our land, will leach into our water fields, and if our water table is then disrupted with Roundup, and you’re drinking that water that was never an intended use of Roundup, but it’s happening. Test your water supply. There are many rural places that have a well that have roundup that has seeped into their water and into their water table, and unless you’re filtering it, you’re not getting that stuff out. And we don’t even know how well a filtration system will actually take that roundup out. Roundup is also known as a what we call endocrine disruptor, which we’ll talk about in a little bit, because I kind of went off on a tangent here. As you can see this, I’m very passionate about this, because it’s really a problem for us, so I want to try to get back on track. Let’s talk about the impact of glyphosate on health. Studies have linked long term exposure of glyphosate to the increased risks of cancer, including non Hodgkin’s lymphoma. These researchers from the University of Washington have also found that glyphosate exposure increases the cancer risk. Are you ready for this by as much as 41% in what they classify as high exposure groups? Well, high exposure group is going to be the farming community. Now, you may not farm, but you could live in a farming area, and if they’re spraying their crops and we have a windy day, research has shown that that chemical can blow up to 1200 miles on a given day.

Deb  8:09 

So we think we may be clean in some areas, but we’re really not. We’re getting exposed to these things all over the place. This glyphosate residue has been detected in many of our popular foods, from breakfast cereals to breads, and yet, unlike Europe, where glyphosate usage is being restricted, the US continues to allow it in our agricultural practices, this raises a lot of questions about the potential long term effects of Our health and the health of our future generations.

Deb  8:42 

Let’s talk more about pesticides, herbicides and what we call hormone disruptors. So beyond dyes and glyphosate, many common pesticides and herbicides disrupt the body in ways that go beyond cancer risk. Several of these chemicals are known endocrine disruptors, meaning that they can interfere with our hormonal balance, affecting everything from the growth and development to our fertility.

Deb  9:11 

Atrazine is a widely used herbicide in the US, but it’s banned in Europe due to its environmental and health impacts. Research from the University of California, Berkeley, has shown that Atrazine exposure can cause changes in reproductive development and in some cases even gender changes in animals due to the hormonal interference. So let’s question that for a second. Are we not seeing one of the highest ever rates of fertility that we have ever seen in this country. Yes, we are. Everybody knows somebody who’s touched by a fertility issue that never used to be the case, that never used to be a problem. You know, if we look back in our family histories, many of.

Deb  10:00 

Our grandparents and great grandparents had eight, 910, children. And I know there’s going to be people that are listening to this that are going to say, Well, that’s because they didn’t have use of birth control. Yes, that’s true, but they were also much more fertile than we are today. So what is going on with our fertility? There are a lot of things. I am not saying that it is just chemicals or just pesticides and herbicides. There’s a whole host of things that are disrupting our fertility right now. But what I am saying is that if we want to preserve our future and our generations to come, we have to start looking at this now. We should have been looking at this 1015, years ago, and we should not have let money and greed get in the way of this. So Dr Tyrone Hayes, who’s a researcher on Atrazine and the effects of Atrazine, has the ability, he believes, has the ability, to disrupt endocrine function at levels as low as 0.1 parts per billion, a concentration found in drinking water across the Midwest. Now I live in the Midwest, so this is rather frightening to me. So this raises significant concerns about its potential effects on our human health and on our hormonal system. So the fact that an herbicide could interfere with hormone function at such low levels is concerning, especially when this chemical is so prevalent in the US Food and water supply. It really brings home the i...

Do not miss these highlights:

03:44 Dr. Kessler’s journey on eating disorder and how it affected her life

09:35 What is an eating disorder

11:29 The behaviors are the consequence of what is going on in our heads

13:00 The certain things that Dr. Kessler found to be really helpful in her journey

15:34 One of the biggest problems is – Eating disorder is so secretive

20:01 How your mind plays a huge role when it comes to pain

20:32 How Dr. Kessler treated her back pain and managed it both physically and mentally

23:15 The power of the nervous system on your own healing abilities

25:44 For many people who suffer from chronic pain, there are a lot of trust issues in their own body as well as externally

28:26 How does medication play a role in blocking Sympathetic and Parasympathetic Nervous System from being effective

30:55 The connection between eating disorders and chronic pain

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About our Guest:

Dr. Kelly Kessler is a licensed physical therapist, wellness coach, and the founder of Optimal You Health and Wellness, LLC. Kelly teaches women who have a history of an eating disorder how to regulate their nervous system to achieve relief from chronic pain. Inspired by her own journey of recovering from an eating disorder and chronic back pain, Kelly has helped many women harness their profound ability to shift from survival mode to thriving. Kelly uses an integrative approach to healing including a personalized audit, education, community support, and actionable steps to create long-lasting results

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Transcription for episode: #157:

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. You’re listening to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb, today is February 4 2022. And my guest is Dr. Kelly Kessler, licensed physical therapist, wellness coach and founder of optimal you health and wellness, Kelly and I are going to have a conversation about eating disorders and chronic pain and we’re gonna talk about how the two are similar and how they can be linked together. And not only that, she’s going to give us some tips on how to live our lives in a chronic pain state.

0:49I’ve talked about this before on this show, and I have suffered for many years from an eating disorder myself. I was diagnosed at age 16, with bulimia and really struggled a lot throughout my life with an eating disorder kind of coming and going. And most of the time, it was surrounded by stressful events in my life. And finally, the last time that I actively had a eating disorder episode, I would say was about age 38. And from there, I’ve been pretty good at not reverting back to my old patterns. Although during really stressful times, I see those patterns coming forward again, and reaching for the chocolate or reaching for the things that make you feel good in a really stressful time of your life. And that can be a really big challenge for people. So I’m glad we’re having this conversation today with Kelly, I’m excited to hear some of her tips and tricks that she uses to help people navigate this world of eating conditions because they are very prevalent many times we don’t recognize them as eating disorders and it is a bigger problem than we all want to admit too many times. So we’ll give you a word from our sponsor, and then we’re going to talk with Kelly and dive right into this juicy topic.

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3:34Welcome back. I’m with Dr. Kessler today. And we are talking all about chronic pain and eating disorders. So Dr. Kessler, welcome to the show.

3:42Thank you very much.

3:44So tell us a little bit about who you are and how you got started on this journey.

3:49Sure. So it actually started in very much as a personal journey. So I struggled with an eating disorder for probably about six years of my life. It started basically my late teens and went through my early 20s, where it kind of progressively got worse. So I would, you know, just per summary on what calories I was taking in. And then basically it was just using exercise to combat any calories. So gradually, I would you know, exercise more and more and more to the point where, you know, I was exercising three, four times a day, you know, for at least like two hours at about, you know, each bout, and then it just again continued to escalate to a point where I couldn’t manage my calories with exercise alone. And so I started purging in other ways and part of that was vomiting. So that that was kind of more towards the later years of that eating disorder. So it really got to a point where you know, it just was kind of spiraling out of control. It was consuming my entire life. It was everything I thought about everything centered around my eating order. So I was withdrawing from people I was missing out on a lot of stuff. opportunities, and I’m just in a very dark place in my life. And basically, I can remember a time where, you know, it really got very much out of control. And I kind of, you know, say that’s more of like my turning point where I, you know, was in a really bad place, I had vomited twice, I was shaking, you know, I just was, I was just sitting on the floor, just crying. And I think at that point, I’m like, I can’t live like this anymore. And kind of from that point on, it took me obviously was not a linear journey, but took me many years to kind of get out of that spot, and to a place where I was in a little bit better spot mentally. But unfortunately, after that, I started experiencing chronic back pain. And that then became my next battle that I had to tackle. So again, it was it was kind of like that, you know, led into the chronic back pain. And then again, I had that for many years. And it took me many routes, a lot of dead ends. And again, same thing, not a linear journey, but finally found something that gave me relief and things that gave me relief. And I am now you know, years later, and much better place, mentally, physically, emotionally, and really have feel like I’ve come out of it and can live a great life again. And so that’s really what has inspired me to help other people who may be in the same shoes that I was in at that time.

6:29That I’m so glad that you’re sharing this story, because I think there’s a lot of different levels of eating disorder, right. And just before you and I were talking, I was doing our intro, I had shared the same type of thing. I had an eating disorder at age 16. My story is very similar to yours. It started with just obsessive about what I put in my mouth, and then Exercise Exercise, exercise four or five hours a day, and then purging and it just kind of spiraled. And still today, I’m 50 I won’t tell you exactly how many years I have 50 plus. And I still track my calories every day, I’m still tracking my exercise every day. And I’m not obsessive, like I was about it back in the day. But there are those moments where when you feel like you’re losing control in your life, you pull back to those habits, because that is something you have control over. So it can be a real significant challenge for a lot of us.

7:26Absolutely, yeah. 100%. Yeah, just like you just- speak on it, it’s like becomes that coping mechanism of like a place of comfort, you know, where you know, this, this is something that’s within your control. And, yeah, it is one of the things that you keep resorting back to that’s why it’s so hard to kind of be free from that entirely.

7:44Right. And it’s so easy, you know, exercise is healthy, right? So it’...

There's a quiet shift happening in healthcare right now, and most doctors aren't talking about it yet. People aren't chasing diagnoses anymore. They're exhausted by them. I see it every single day in my clinic. People who come in with stacks of paperwork, portals full of results, and a list of diagnoses longer than their grocery receipt, yet they're still not living their lives. And they'll say to me, Dr. Deb, I don't want another label.

Dr. Deb Muth 0:32

 I just want my life back. If you've ever been told this is just how your body is, if you've been diagnosed, rediagnosed, and then dismissed, if you've been handed labels but never handed a roadmap, today's episode is for you. Because we are officially entering what I call the post diagnosis era and it's changing everything about how healing actually happens. So grab your cup of coffee or tea and let's settle in to let's talk wellness. Now, before we dive in, we need to take a quick pause to thank today's sponsor. And when we come back, we're going to talk about why diagnoses are no longer the most important thing about you.

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Dr. Deb Muth 0:47

It was three years ago Christmas that I received my Ms. Diagnosis. And I remember it very clearly. It was the day before, two days before Christmas Eve, that I got the call and I heard the words, you have white matter brain disease. That's consistent with Ms. And I immediately stopped in my tracks and thought, okay, well, this is just the way it is. We're gonna fight this. We're gonna figure this out. And it led me down a deeper path of healing and spirituality and emotional growth. And there were some really difficult days ahead for me because I remember thinking, what am I gonna do? How am I gonna practice what's going to happen in my life? And every year at this time, I reflect back to that day that I got the call that really changed my life. And not for the worse, but for the better. It changed the way I was thinking about life.

Dr. Deb Muth 3:01

It changed the way I was complaining about things being ungrateful for all the amazing things that I have in my life. Not intentionally, but just living the American life. Right.

Dr. Deb Muth 3:14

And striving for more and wanting more and chasing more and doing more, and never really having the opportunity to just be present and just really think about life and enjoy what the Lord has given us and enjoy what's around me, the people in my life, the family that I have, the amazing practice that I have, and the amazing people I get to work with and change lives with. And it really changed me for the better. And I've watched diagnoses like this change people for the worse and for them to sink deep into a depression and give up and. And live to their label instead of living to their potential. And that's why I think this episode is so important for us, because we all have a choice in life. When we get dealt something kind of difficult, we can let it consume us and let it take every ounce of life from us, or we can allow it to become the fuel that makes us better, makes us contribute to life maybe differently, but in a better way. So, you know, I know that this idea of letting diagnoses lose their power can be really uncomfortable for some people, because there's people that are waiting for that diagnosis. I'm in some. Some social media groups, and I'm listening and reading to people who are saying, I'm so angry I didn't get the Ms. Diagnosis today. I'm so angry I didn't get the Lyme diagnosis today. I'm so upset that they can't find anything wrong with me. And I understand.

Dr. Deb Muth 5:20

I know the feeling of wanting to put a name to what you're feeling so that you have validation and you have power around this diagnosis, and you can prove to people that what you're feeling is not in your head. I get all of that. But for many people, the original diagnosis is meant to help guide treatment in the conventional sense. It's a created, shared language that we have, and it brings clarity. But for many people, you give that label and that name so much power and so much control over your life and who you are and what you're being. And that's not what the label is meant for. Somewhere along the line, medicine started confusing naming with healing. And today, we have more diagnoses than ever. We have more testing than ever. We have so many thousands of specialists, and yet people are sicker. They're more inflamed, they're more exhausted, they're more confused than ever. And that's not just a coincidence. That is how the system is meant to work. It's meant to confuse you.

Dr. Deb Muth 6:44

It's meant to keep you dependent on it. It's meant to. Meant to keep you on medical management for the rest of your life. And by doing that, we enrich the pharmaceutical companies to the point where their whole role is to continue to create drugs that you need to be on for the rest of your life. And the hard truth about all of this that I've seen in my practice is for many patients, the diagnosis really becomes their identity. They own it, they gravitate to it. It's who they are. It also becomes their prison because they only live confined inside the diagnosis. I can't do this because I can't do that, because if I do this, this will happen, because I have. They've capped their ceiling of life based on a couple of words that somebody gave them at a point in their life when they were so low and potentially so desperate that they needed that name to identify themselves and what was going on. And instead of asking, why is this happening?

Dr. Deb Muth 8:05

Why are these symptoms happening? What's causing these symptoms? They're told, this is what you have, and this is what you're going to have to live with. And instead of restoring function, these people become managed. Like I said, they're managed with drugs. They're managed inside the system. And instead of healing, they're monitored with this blood test and that blood test and this MRI and that mri. Instead of providing hope, they're handed a lifelong prescription with expectations that do nothing but decline. So you walk out of that room with this expectation that your life is never going to be the same, that your function is going to decline, your neurological disease is going to take over eventually, you're going to be put in a home, you're going to lose everything you have because you're not going to be able to afford the care that you need. And that's the expectations of our healthcare system today. When you're labeled with a chronic illness diagnosis, and for a woman, especially women, this is magnified because their symptoms are told to them as. It's stress, it's hormones, it's anxiety, it's aging, it's motherhood, and then, of course, it's perimenopause. Like that is some major traumatic thing that should disrupt your entire life. Yet it shouldn't, and it does, and it doesn't have to. And of course, my favorite is always, but your labs are normal. We don't know what's wrong with you. It must just be in your head.

Dr. Deb Muth 9:53

And this is why women are done being dismissed, why this shift is happening now that we are empowering women to take back Their lives, take back who they are and take back how they're being treated in the healthcare system. And it is one of the most important things that we can do right now is to give women their power back so that they can stand strong in who they are and in their intuition and fight and say, no, this is not happening to me right now. I am not accepting this label. I'm not accepting this diagnosis. I will fight, I will find answers, and I will do what I need to do to be the woman that I want to be. So why is this conversation exploding right now? Well, there's actually three big reasons, and first and foremost, it's over. Diagnosis, burnout. People are collecting diagnoses without solutions. Autoimmune labels, syndromes, vague neurological names, but no one's connecting the dots.

Dr. Deb Muth 11:02

You see, when you start to stack these labels on top of each other, one after the next after the next, you know, it's celiac disease, it's Hashimoto's, it's fibromyalgia, it's autoimmune. You know, rheumatoid arthritis. It's. Whatever it is, it's long haul Covid. These days, no one is putting these connections together to say, why are you developing so many diseases that are so similar in nature, ones that just kind of domino after each other? Nobody's looking at your immune system. Nobody's measuring it, Nobody's telling you how well it's working. No one's supporting it. They're just throwing these biological drugs at you. And if there's an autoimmune disease and sending you on your way and saying, this is what you have to look forward to for the rest of your life. But don't worry, these side effects are rare, including cancer. It does not make sense to me that we are not looking at the root cause for all of these crazy diagnoses that we are labeling people with today. And I am guilty of it myself, because within the system that we work, we have to label something in order for you to receive the care that you need, for your insurance, to pay for the treatment, for the tests, for the visits. There has to be a label. And that's what we call an ICD10 code. And if we don't have the appropriate label, none of what we're recommending gets covered for you. And that's the label game began. The second thing is long haul Covid. And post viral illnesses.<...

[01:23] DEB: Every cell in your body runs on the same fuel: oxygen. So what happens when your cells stop using it? Well. Well, they get tired, they get sick, you age faster. And here's the part that should make you really angry. We've had a way to measure this since the 1970s. And almost no one in mainstream medicine has ever offered it to you. Today I'm sitting down with a man who holds the actual patent on measuring mitochondrial function in a clinic. He is known as the godfather of ozone for a reason. He's been using 130-year-old therapy to help patients regenerate joints, recover from chronic infections, and reclaim their energy, decades before anyone else was willing to say it out loud. This is Dr. Frank Shallenberger. Stick around, this one gets into the biochemistry of why you're tired and what to do about it.

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[03:09] DEB: Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting edge regenerative medicine and empower you with the tools to heal. I'm Dr. Deb, and today we're diving into mitochondrial function, oxygen utilization,, and the decades-long story of ozone therapy in America with one of the pioneers who built this field from the ground up. If you've ever been told your labs are normal but you still don't feel like yourself. If you're dealing with fatigue, chronic pain, degenerative joints, or you've just always sensed there's a piece of conventional medicine it isn't measuring. This episode is for you. So grab your cup of tea, coffee, or whatever helps you unwind. Settle in and let's get started on the journey for deeper healing.

[04:07] DEB (Book promo): I know that story because it was my story too. I spent three years being told I had MS. Three years of fear. Three years of doubt. Three years of sitting across from doctors who had given up looking. Turns out, wasn't MS. It was something completely different, something treatable, something we could actually address but nobody was asking the right questions. That experience is what gave birth to Seen at Last, my book written for every woman who has ever walked out of the doctor's office feeling more invisible than when she walked in.

[04:45] DEB: My guest today is Dr. Frank Shallenberger. He's been practicing alternative and integrative medicine since 1978. Yep. I said that right. 1978. And he's a founder and past president of the American Academy of Ozone Therapy. Dr. Shallenberger holds the only patent on using respiratory gas analysis to measure mitochondrial function, a method he calls bioenergy testing. He's written two books on the subject. The Type 2 Diabetes Breakthrough and Bursting with Energy, and he's authored numerous peer reviewed papers on ozone therapy and oxygen utilization. He's also the developer of ProloZone, an injection technique used to help regenerate damaged joints, herniated discs, and degenerative soft tissue and he is the editor of the Second Opinion alternative medicine newsletter. Dr. Shallenberger, welcome to the show.

[05:51] FRANK: Yeah, I was a surgical resident, an absolute neophyte to medicine. And I just happened to kind of get lucky in the sense that I found out that I happened to be in the San Francisco area at the time. And Linus Pauling was having a study group with about like 10 other people, all of whom were like, very famous people in San Francisco and I just found my way into it and I started listening to all these guys talking about things like vitamins and imbalances, and he called it orthomolecular medicine, but you know, talking about all the imbalances. And his theory was those imbalances would cause all the problems. And so therefore the way to fix the problems is not with drugs to help with the symptoms, but to actually go in and look for the imbalances and repair the imbalances. And typically the imbalances are all natural things. He was focusing mostly on vitamin C and other vitamins, but it could be anything. It could be amino acids, could be sleep, it could be lifestyle habits, whatever. And I just got lucky and it started awakening up here saying, "You know what? All they taught me in medical school was really good stuff like biochemistry and physiology and so on and so on." But they never ever ever told me anything like this before.

[07:11] DEB: Isn't that something I think all of us who kind of stumbled into integrative or alternative medicine, whatever we want to call it these days, we all kind of feel the same way, right? Like we've learned all this biochem and we were like, Oh, thank God it's over. We don't have to think about it anymore. And then you get into the integrative space and you're like, Oh my gosh, that biochem meant so much. And now we know like the underlying cause of what's causing the cells to not be healthy, to that make us sick. But we didn't learn any of that part in medicine at all. We just learned the basics of it. And here's how to fix people.

[07:45] FRANK: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so that's how, that's how I got into it. I remember I just so much remember 1978, I read a book called Sugar Blues. And this book basically had the radical concept of maybe people ought not to be eating all that much sugar. And oh, by the way, taking B vitamins might be a good idea. So I said, okay, you know, I don't think anybody died from sugar deficiency or died from taking too many B vitamins. So I'm going to go ahead and give them those. And then about like 20, 25% of my patients started getting better. And then it started clicking.

[08:18] DEB: And did you just kind of gradually start doing more and more things as you learned then? When did you stop doing surgery? Because if you were a surgical resident, that's a big thing.

[08:28] FRANK: I did that for a couple of years. And so back in the late, late seventies, you know, I made the transition. I said, you know what, this is a whole lot more interesting than doing this other stuff. Not talking to people and just cutting on them. One thing about surgeons is surgeons, their mentality is straightforward. It's pretty obvious. You got a swollen appendix? I'm going to take the appendix out. We don't have to get into a big intellectual discussion about this. Whereas with the internist, not so much, it's always this or that. We don't always know what we're doing in internal medicine, but I got that surgeon mentality. I'm just looking for what's obvious.

[09:09] DEB: Right. That's why they call it all practicing medicine, right? Because that's what we're all doing. So you've said that the body is a self healing mechanism and it's really our lifestyle and our toxic load that breaks down, which then causes all these problems. Do you think you started learning that when you studied with Linus Pauling or when would you say that you started really noticing that as a big part of people's illnesses.

[09:34] FRANK: Yeah, way back then those guys were on it. I mean, they were focusing to a large extent on you know, certain vitamins, niacin, I remember, was one of them. There were also, you know, Linus was an interesting guy. He came in one time in one of the groups and he said, "I want to discuss urine therapy." Yeah, okay. If anybody else said that, probably we'd throw him out of the group. You know, Linus was — so he was open-minded. He thought about lots of things and yeah, for sure they were focused on diet back then and lifestyle choices and all that kind of thing.

[10:09] DEB: Awesome. So you are the godfather of ozone therapy, right? That is what you are known for. And ozone therapy has been around a lot longer than people think, over 130 years. But still today, you know, most Americans have never heard of it. They've never done it. What do you think — the reason is that it hasn't taken off to the mainstream like it has in different parts of Europe.

[10:33] FRANK: In the early 80s, a very famous German physician by the name of Horst Kief made this statement, "If...

In this solo episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb opens with a patient who started bioidentical hormones and, within three weeks, had panic attacks for the first time in her life. From there, she walks through the five systems that determine whether hormone therapy helps you or harms you and exactly what to address before you ever fill that prescription.

If you have been told hormones are a simple fix, this episode reveals why readiness matters just as much as the prescription itself and how getting it right can change everything.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Why estrogen has to be metabolized, and what happens when your liver cannot clear it fast enough

- How gut bacteria and beta-glucuronidase can recirculate the estrogen your body was trying to eliminate

- Why normal liver enzymes can still mean you are a poor estrogen metabolizer

- How estrogen can quietly make you functionally hypothyroid, and why TSH alone misses it

- The histamine connection behind hives, palpitations, anxiety, and panic on hormones

- The five-point checklist Dr. Deb runs before anyone in her practice starts HRT

What Dr. Deb says:

"The hormones aren't the problem. The problem is whether your body is actually ready to receive them."

"Imagine you're filling up a bathtub, but the drain is completely clogged. The water just keeps rising. That's what's happening when you add estrogen to a body that can't clear it."

Timestamps:

[00:01] A patient in tears: panic attacks three weeks into bioidentical hormones

[02:30] Why estrogen is not a magic bullet, and the clogged bathtub analogy

[04:53] Protective vs. problematic estrogen metabolites, and why testing matters

[06:00] The gut connection: beta-glucuronidase and estrogen recirculation

[09:42] The GI MAP, and why the gut has to be ready first

[11:00] Liver phase one and phase two detox, and where the bottleneck forms

[14:27] Thyroid: how estrogen can make you functionally hypothyroid

[16:53] Histamine: the overlooked driver of hives, palpitations, and panic

[20:00] The five-point checklist before touching hormones

[24:50] The patient's turnaround, and why HRT is a living protocol, not one and done

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In Episode 284 of The Peptide Files, Dr. Deb looks at thymosin alpha 1, the peptide that tries to send the instructor back to that training academy, including the big trial that said "not so fast."

This week, The Peptide Files takes on thymosin alpha 1, or TA1, one of the most well-studied peptides in the entire series. Unlike many peptides making noise online, this one has been used in clinical medicine around the world for decades, with a safety record described in the research as excellent. Dr. Deb walks through what TA1 actually is, a copy of a signal your own thymus makes, why it works as an immune modulator rather than a simple booster, and where the genuine research strength lies, from chronic hepatitis to cancer care.

And in keeping with this whole series, she does not skip the part the sales world leaves out: the largest, most rigorous trial of TA1 came back negative on its main goal. Honest science includes the word no, and that is exactly why this peptide is so interesting.

In this episode, you will learn:

- What the thymus gland does, and why immune function fades as it shrinks with age

- Why TA1 is an immune modulator that pushes toward balance, rather than a simple immune booster

- Where the research genuinely supports it, including hepatitis and cancer care as an add-on

- What the large negative sepsis trial found, and why naming it matters for credibility

- Where TA1 sits in the US today from a regulatory standpoint

Highlighted quotes:

"It does not just boost your immune system. TA1 is an immune modulator. It pushes toward balance."

"The sepsis trial is the proof that honest science includes the word no."

Timestamps:

[00:02] Your immune system's training academy: the thymus gland explained

[02:24] Where TA1 comes from: the first peptide ever isolated from the thymus

[05:00] The conductor, not a soloist: why it modulates rather than just boosts

[10:00] What the research actually shows: hepatitis, cancer care, and immune support

[13:30] The honesty centerpiece: the large trial that came back negative

[18:38] The honest scorecard: what is strong, what is uncertain, and the US status

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Speaker 2 1:20Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now. I’m your host, Dr, Deb, and today I want to share with you something deeply personal. It’s a chapter of my life that changed everything for me, how I went from diagnosis to healing, from fear to strength. This is a journey of navigating the unknown, facing the unsettling reality of chronic illness, and ultimately choosing a path that aligned with my beliefs and my values. My story is about facing the diagnosis of MS multiple sclerosis and going against the grain by choosing a different path for anyone out there feeling lost, isolated or misunderstood in their healing journey, this episode is for you. I hope that by sharing my experience, I can inspire others to take control of their health and find their own paths to healing. So let me take you back to the beginning. Life was really busy, and I was doing all the things I loved. I was running a busy medical practice. I have six businesses. My career in healthcare was flourishing. I was educating practitioners and training them in functional medicine. My children were grown, but I was loving every minute that I could with my grandchildren, and I was doing a ton of traveling and just really living my life to the fullest. But something wasn’t quite right. I started experiencing these strange symptoms that came out of nowhere, or so it seemed. It all began with this deep, relentless fatigue that no amount of rest could fix. Now it was easy to blow off the fatigue, because it was COVID, and I had been sick with COVID twice. I knew that post COVID Fatigue was a real thing. We were just learning about long haul COVID, and I was busy. I wasn’t sleeping much because I was busy and I was stressed and I had lots to do, but I’d sleep and I’d feel like I never even closed my eyes, there was this constant brain fog, this kind of mental exhaustion, where even the simplest tasks felt overwhelming. It took me much longer to accomplish things that it had in the past. Taken me half the amount of time, and then the tingling started. It began with my toes. I love to walk, so I would be walking, and all of a sudden realized that I couldn’t feel one toe then another toe. And as we all do, we can make excuses for it. I simply thought that my socks weren’t right and my shoes, so I’d stop and I changed them, and then it must have been my shoes. Maybe those were bad and I needed new ones. Or the ones I always walked with suddenly weren’t good anymore. Or maybe it was the road and I wasn’t used to it, because I wasn’t walking on the road as much I was walking in the woods more. And then that sensation started to spread. All of a sudden, it would be a brushing across my leg, and then the brush across the face that felt like a feather. My muscles began to feel really weak, and I felt like they could. Betray me at any moment, I kept pushing it aside, telling myself I was just overworked or maybe a little too stressed, but deep down, I knew that there was something else going on. It was like my body was trying to send me a message, one that I wasn’t quite ready to understand. As I tell all of my clients, if you don’t listen to your body, your body will begin to speak louder and louder to you, and eventually it’ll be screaming at you. And I knew that, so I didn’t put it off too long, but probably a little longer than I should have. I finally decided to see the doctor. And I went to see my orthopedic specialist, who I trust, thinking this is just a bad neck issue. I’ve damaged my neck before. I’ve had multiple car accidents, multiple whiplashes, and I have a lot of degeneration. It must just be a bad neck. When I sat down to tell him my symptoms, he looked at me and said, Deb, you’re a very smart woman. You know what’s going on?

Speaker 2 6:28my neck is bad, and I just need a little cortisone. I’ll be fine. When he sat down and pulled up next to me and closely got into my face and said, Deb, I think you have MS, and I remember looking at him very perplexed, because that was not on my radar anywhere. I remember feeling a little numb as the words sank in, and it was if the air had been sucked out of the room. At that moment, my husband looked at me, I looked at him, and I was filled with fear and dread, but I had to be strong for my husband. I didn’t want him to know how afraid I was, but I couldn’t help but think about what this would mean for my future, for my family, for my career, would I lose my independence? Would I become a burden to those that I loved? It was a devastating moment, one that I’ve had to share with clients numerous times, but it is very different. Sitting on the other side of the desk hearing those words, my doctor’s solution was very straightforward, let’s go get a brain MRI, let’s see if what I suspect is correct. And we laughed and joked about how he just wanted to see if I actually had a brain or not. I agreed, and I got in the car that night with my husband, not knowing what to say, not knowing how much to share. My husband doesn’t work in the medical field. He doesn’t know what’s coming if this is truly ms, but I do. We drove quietly for about 20 minutes, when he finally looked at me and said, What does this mean for you? What’s going to happen? And I sat back, and I shared with him what could potentially happen with Ms. I could lose function in my limbs. I could lose function of my brain. I could end up in a nursing home because no one would be able to take care of me, and that’s what we could be looking at right now.

Speaker 2 9:06And we drove quietly for another 15 or 20 minutes as we went back to my office. And as I always do, I put on a smiling face, and I went back to seeing my clients, pretending like none of this happened, all the while in the back of my head, truly being worried about what I had just learned. So I did the brain MRI

Speaker 2 9:37and December, 23 2020 22 i Two. I got the call from my orthopedic doctor who said, Deb, you have white matter brain disease. It’s in the prefrontal lobe, and this confirms, MS, I want you to go see the neurologist. And the good news. Is, this is early stage. You’re young, you’re healthy, and this can be treated with immunosuppressing drugs, and we can manage your symptoms. And I sat back and laughed and said, Thank you, but that’s not the route that I’m interested in taking in my world MS is a few other things until proven otherwise, their toxins, their infections and their nutrient deficiencies, mitochondrial deficiencies and viruses.

Speaker 2 10:40So I’m going to go this route, and I’m going to find out what’s actually causing my white matter brain disease before I take on an immunosuppressive therapy. He encouraged me to not wait to get treatment, but he understood, and as wonderful as he is, he shared with me his last bit of encouragement, and said, I’m here if you need anything, if it doesn’t end up being ms, let me know, and we’ll take a closer look at what’s going on physically for you. And at that moment, I had to call my husband and let him know that the diagnosis looked like it could be. Ms, and he immediately said to me, Deb, you know the most brilliant people in the world in this field, you know how to heal yourself. You’ve healed others. We’ve got this. And then he proceeded to tell everyone in my family and my friends that I had been diagnosed with MS, which I wasn’t quite ready to admit to people, but I also understood in that moment that he needed to share and he needed to have support, and he needed To know that things were going to be okay. So I did what I do best, and I began to do the research and look at all of the things that could potentially trigger ms, and take them one by one to identify what is the culprit? And what I realized after all these years of practicing, when we’ve been taught MS is tick borne disease, until otherwise proven that MS is so much more than that. It is infection, it is toxins, but it’s also traumatic brain injury and non traumatic brain injury, and it’s also a mitochondrial dysfunction. And all of these things put together, put us at risk for neurological conditions like MS and Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease and ALS, and we don’t aggressively address these soon enough, in my opinion, we treat what we can treat, and then we just kind of put that to the side and wait until symptoms come, instead of being proactive and looking at the brain every year and seeing what’s going on with it and what changes are happening with it, so we can catch these things sooner than later. A $300 MRI would have changed that day for me sooner than later. So here’s what I chose to ...

In this deeply personal episode of Let’s Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb shares a real-time update on her family member Kamren’s cancer case and the advocacy lesson inside it that every patient and family needs to hear.

Shared with Kam’s full permission as his case continues to unfold, this is a follow-up to his story. A second-opinion pathology review came back and shifted the picture in a meaningful way, reopening the question of where his cancer actually started, and underscoring why a single institution should never be the only set of eyes on a complex diagnosis.

Dr. Deb walks through what changed, why second opinions are a clinical necessity rather than a betrayal of your doctor, and why a finding that goes unexamined for years can turn out to be the most important detail in the room. This is a difficult, honest episode, and it carries a lesson that could protect other families navigating a confusing diagnosis.

In this episode, you will learn:

• Why two elite institutions can reach opposite conclusions, and why that is a reason to keep asking questions
• Why a second, independent pathology review matters in any complex or rare diagnosis
• Why “normal” on a test only means normal for exactly what was tested, and nothing more
• Why population-level data is not the same as your own individual biology
• The questions every patient and family should be ready to ask their care team

Highlighted quotes:“If you do not have someone in your corner asking the right questions, the system will not ask them for you.”“A normal test is only normal for what it was tested for.”

Timestamps:[00:16] Looking in the wrong place: the finding that went unexamined for years[04:18] Catching up on Kam’s case: the foundation for today’s update[07:00] When the ground shifted: a second opinion changes the picture[09:10] Why find the source: getting the diagnosis right before the treatment[31:20] Speaking directly to you: the questions every patient should ask[37:03] Why this case matters to all of us: advocacy as a necessity, not a luxury

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Hi there, how are you?

Bob Miller 00:00:10

Excellent! Pedaling as fast as humanly possible, but doing okay.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:14

Good, good. Well, I'm looking forward to our conversation today. This should be amazing.

Bob Miller 00:00:20

Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:22

Yeah, anything that's off-limits for you in, our conversation?

Bob Miller 00:00:28

No.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:29

Okay, anything you want me to make sure we cover for you?

Bob Miller 00:00:33

Well, I mean, is it okay if we put a little plug-in for our software?

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:35

Absolutely.

Bob Miller 00:00:36

Yeah.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:37

Absolutely.

Bob Miller 00:00:36

Yeah.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:37

Absolutely.

Bob Miller 00:00:38

Hey, can we… can we do a screen share? Yes, we can. Yeah, because I want to show you some maps, and…

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:43

Okay. Things like that, yeah, so… Perfect. So just let me know when you want to do screen share.

Bob Miller 00:00:48

Okay.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:49

And yeah, feel free to plug your software wherever you want to.

Bob Miller 00:00:53

Okay, well, good. Let me pull up a, a slide for that, and give me one second, I just want to shut the door to my office to get the noise down.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:01

No worries.

Bob Miller 00:01:16

And, how should I refer to you? Dr. Debb? Dr. Muth, what do you like?

Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:18

Dr. Deb is great, or Deb, either way, I'm pretty informal, so…

Bob Miller 00:01:22

Yeah, and… Bob is fine for me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Why people feel like they need this, son. Special name, it's like, seriously.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:33

Right? I agree.

Bob Miller 00:01:35

When I work with my clients, it's like, Dr. Millison, just, just bop, just, just bop.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:41

Yep, that's how I am, too. Just call me Deb, it's good.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:44

They feel a little awkward with that, you know? They're not used to that, but…

Bob Miller 00:01:48

Alright. And you're a naturopath, medical doctor.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:52

A nastropathic doctor and a nurse practitioner. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I got the best of both worlds, right?

Bob Miller 00:01:58

Yeah, damn. Okay. Alright, so here we go… There we go. Alright, so I got that ready, and then I will do a, I will do a screen share. I think you're gonna really, appreciate what we've come up with. We've come up with the concept of, Cellular CPR.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:23

Oh, nice!

Bob Miller 00:02:24

And that is, construct the cell membrane, Protect the cell membrane. And restore it if it's damaged.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:32

Love that.

Bob Miller 00:02:34

I love that. Yeah, so that's what we're focusing on, and then how, You know, we want to get to the point that, you know, most people think of genetics, they think of, like, 23andMe or Ancestry.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:44

Yeah.

Bob Miller 00:02:45

And then you have the professional geneticists who are looking at, you know, odd things that could create a disease. We're looking at functional genomics.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:54

Which is so much better.

Bob Miller 00:02:56

Yeah. Are you familiar with what we do here, or…

Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:58

A little bit, a little bit. So, it'll be new to me, too, so I'm excited.

Bob Miller 00:03:03

And how much time do we have?

Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:04

We have an hour, give or take a little bit on either side. Do you have a hard stop anywhere?

Bob Miller 00:03:10

No, no, I put a, I moved my clients around, and I don't have anybody till,

3.30, so we're good. Okay.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:16

Perfect. Alright.

Bob Miller 00:03:18

It's like we're getting started early as well, so…

Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:19

Yeah, we're getting started a little bit early, so that's good.

Bob Miller 00:03:22

Yeah, I just got my office cleaned up, so…

Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:23

Okay, good. All right, are you all set to get started?

Bob Miller 00:03:28

I'm good to go, my friend.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:29

I'm gonna just record a little intro and a little bit of a, hook for people, and then we'll get started. I'll ask you to kind of tell us a little bit about yourself, and then we'll just take this conversation wherever it's supposed to go.

Bob Miller 00:03:39

Okay, you got it.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:40

Alright, sounds good. So what if the reason you're not healing isn't your diet, your supplements, or your labs, but it's actually your genes? Dr. Bob Miller is uncovering how genetic variants, when combined with modern toxins, explain why some of us stay sick no matter what we try. Today, we're talking genetic pathways, detox blocks, and the new science every wellness warrior needs to know.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, exploring cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you to heal from the inside out. I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today, our guest, Dr. Bob Miller, is a true pioneer in functional genomics. He's a board-certified traditional naturopath and the founder of Neutrogenetic Research Institute. And he's the leading groundbreaking research on how genetic variants influence chronic illness, inflammation, and detoxification. His work has been recognized on international stages, uncovering links between genetic expression and conditions like Lyme disease, mast cell activation, or MCAS, and mitochondrial dysfunction. I'm so excited to talk to Dr. Bob today. He is gonna reveal some things that even I don't know about, so I'm excited to learn alongside of you guys. So…

Dr. Bob, let's get started. Tell us a little bit about yourself, and kind of how you got on this journey.

Bob Miller 00:05:04

Well, that's, that's interesting. I was sort of like a mid-career coming to the natural health field, because in my early 30s, I found myself with a severe case of ulcerative colitis.

Bob Miller 00:05:15

And I was in the hospital for 21 days. probably within hours of death, pleading to death. And they told me I've got one option, and that is cut out the colon and wear a bag. Didn't sound like a lot of fun.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:05:27

Not an option I would want.

Bob Miller 00:05:29

So, you know, the medical folks wasn't real happy with me, but I said, yeah, I'd like to explore some alternative things.Never thinking that I'd get into this field, and then I just, you know, worked with some herbalists and things that I found absolutely fascinating. So, that's how I got into this around 30 years ago. And, haven't looked back since, and just having a… having a blast as we now move into how our genetics impacts things. So, that's what we're gonna… that's what we're gonna talk about today.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:05:58

I'm excited to talk about this genetic thing. When you started over 30 years ago, what kind of patience and problems first inspired you to dig deeper into that root cause healing and kind of get into the genetic piece of it?

Bob Miller 00:06:10

Sure. Well, you know, as a… now, I'm in a part of the country called Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where there's a lot of Amish and Mennonite, and they gravitate towards these things.So, this is their first thing to do, and that doesn't work, then they'll go other routes. So, you know, back then, we just saw typical, you know, a little tired, constipation.

You know, a little bit of fatigue, arthritis, those kind of things. But things have changed dramatically over the years, as people are now getting more chronically sick. You know, it's worse than it's ever been. And what we're finding is the, the culprits

Primarily is mold exposure and Lyme disease.

When people get those two together, they're just… it's an inflammatory cascade that nobody can seem to unravel. So that's where we spend a lot of our time. And we're also spending a lot of time looking at mental health, like ADD, ADHD. And, we give… this year I'll be speaking at three autism conferences. And we can dig into that a little bit as to why we think we're seeing such a dramatic increase. And aside from autism, that used to be 1 out of 1,000, now it's 1 out of 33, or 23. You know, we're also seeing dramatic increases in ADD, ADHD. People are stressed out. And today, I think we'll have the time to actually go through and show how environmental factors combine with genetics to cause that to happen. So we'll… we should have a fun visit here today. And today, I think we'll have the time to actually go through and show how environmental factors combine with genetics to cause that to happen. So we'll… we should have a fun visit here today.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:07:37

This should be a fun visit. We can cover lots of topics. I am so excited. So, you founded Nutri Genetic Research Institute in 2015. What did you hope to accomplish, and what kind of surprised you in your findings so far about that?

Bob Miller 00:07:51

Well, you know, let's back up at what, you know, genetics is used for. Everybody's familiar wi...

Dr. Deb 0:29Today, we’re going to explore what the carnivore diet is, why it’s gaining so much attention, and how it might just be the key to healing your body, especially if you’re dealing with conditions like MS, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s disease, or other neurological challenges. I’ll share practical tips with you to get you started common pitfalls to avoid and why this way of eating is a game changer for your gut and brain health. So grab your favorite cup of coffee or tea, and let’s jump right in today.

Dr. Deb 1:08So what is this thing called the carnivore diet? Well, it’s exactly what it sounds like, a diet focused entirely on animal based foods, thin steak, chicken, eggs, fish, butter and organ meats. That’s it sounds like a man’s dream, right? Well, there’s no fruits, no vegetables, no grains, no plant based oils. Why? Because the philosophy behind carnivore is simple. Our ancestors thrived on nutrient dense animal foods, and by eliminating plant based foods that can trigger inflammation or gut issues, we allow our bodies to heal from the inside out. Now I want to talk a little bit with you about the history behind the carnivore diet. To truly understand the carnivore diet, it’s important to look at its historical roots. So for 1000s of years, humans relied heavily on animal based foods for survival. Early hunter gatherer societies prioritized hunting large game and fishing, and these provided the most calorie dense and nutrient rich sustenance available. These practices shaped our biology, our digestive systems and efficiently utilized animal proteins and fats. Even more recent history, certain cultures have thrived on predominantly carnivore diets. Inuit people of Arctic, for example, consumed a diet primarily consisting of fish, seals and whale blubber, not really my favorite idea of a dinner, but that’s okay. They had little to no plants, yet they remained remarkably healthy. Similarly, the Masaya tribe in East Africa traditionally ate a diet based on meat, blood and milk, boasting robust health and low incidences of chronic diseases. The resurgence of the carnivore diet in modern times is largely credited to advocates seeking relief from autoimmune conditions, obesity and metabolic disorders, and by looking back at these historical dietary patterns, we’re rediscovering the profound benefits of diet centered around nutrient dense animal based foods. So is there really science behind all of this? Well, there is the success of a carnivore diet lies in its ability to reduce systemic inflammation, stabilize blood sugar and repair the gut lining. When you eliminate carbohydrates from your body, it your body actually shifts to using fat for fuel through a process called ketosis. We know this very well from the ketogenic diet. This process actually reduces insulin levels and promotes cellular repair and animal based foods, particularly red meat and organ meat, provide all the essential amino acids, vitamins and minerals that your body needs without the interference of plant based anti nutrients. So for individuals with neurological conditions like MS, this shift is especially important. Studies show that ketones, the byproducts of fat metabolism, can have neuroprotective effects, and they fuel the brain cells more efficiently than glucose, and may help reduce oxidative stress, a key factor in neurodegeneration. Additionally, the high levels of omega three fatty acids found in fatty fish like salmon, support brain health and reduce inflammation. I.

Dr. Deb 5:00Yeah. Now why does this matter for people with neurological conditions like Ms? Well, because research is showing us that gut health is directly tied to brain health. If your gut is inflamed, your brain is likely inflamed too, and by repairing the gut brain axis through the carnivore diet, you may experience a reduction in inflammation, you may have improved energy and even fewer neurological symptoms. For my listeners with MS, this could be life changing. Imagine fewer flare ups, less brain fog, and more days where you feel like your best self. That’s the promise of focusing on healing your gut and brain with a carnivore approach. So why does carnivore diet help Ms flares anyway? Well, Ms Multiple Sclerosis is an autoimmune disease characterized by inflammation and damage to the myelin sheath, the protective coating around the neurons in the brain.

Dr. Deb 6:01These flare ups often result from heightened immune activity and systemic inflammation. The carnivore diet can help mitigate these issues in several ways. They reduce systemic inflammation by eliminating plant based anti nutrients like lectins and oxalates. The carnivore diet minimizes potential gut irritants that can contribute to the immune system’s over activation, especially things like gluten,

Dr. Deb 6:28ketones and neurological health. The ketogenic nature of the carnivore diet produces ketones, which serve as an efficient fuel source for the brain. Ketones have neuroprotective properties and can help reduce the oxidative stress, a critical factor in MS flare ups gut healing. A compromised gut lining can lead to increased intestinal permeability, or what we call leaky gut, which has been linked to autoimmune conditions like MS, the nutrient dense, easily digestible animal foods in the carnivore diet help repair the gut lining and reduce the influx of inflammatory molecules that enter the bloodstream.

Dr. Deb 7:09Let’s not forget stabilizing blood sugar. Blood sugar spikes and insulin resistance can exasperate inflammation.

Dr. Deb 7:17The carnivore diet stabilizes blood sugar levels, reducing one of the triggers for inflammatory processes, and we have enhanced immune regulation by supporting a balanced gut microbiome and reducing inflammation. The diet helps modulate immune activity, potentially decreasing the frequency and severity of MS flare ups. This is why the carnivore diet isn’t just about what you eat. It’s about giving your body the tools it needs to heal, protect and thrive. For our neurological patients suffering from MS, Alzheimer’s disease and Parkinson’s, it can mean fewer flare ups, better energy and high quality of life.

Dr. Deb 8:02Now, let’s get started on talking about what this carnivore diet actually looks like. If you’re curious about trying carnivore, here’s some good news. Getting started is simple. There are three easy steps. First, start with the basics. Stick to high quality animal foods like beef, lamb, chicken and fish. Eggs and butter are great, too. If you’re feeling adventurous, incorporate organ meats like liver and nutritional powerhouses. Eggs are powerful because they’re full of choline, and choline crosses the blood brain barrier and repairs the neurological damage that’s occurring in there. Choose organ meats that are organic. Actually choose any meat that’s organic and grass fed, this is where the Quality Matters. Organic and grass fed meats are not only nutrient dense, but also free from harmful toxins like antibiotics, hormones and pesticides that are commonly found in conventionally raised meats. Grass fed beef, for example, contains higher levels of omega three fatty acids and CLA conjugated linoleic acid, both of which support anti inflammatory processes. On the other hand, conventional meats may expose you to chemicals and residues that can disrupt hormones and increase inflammation, counteracting the healthy benefits of the diet. When we’re dealing with neurological issues, we’re trying to get these toxins out of the body, because most of the time, they’re overburdened in the body, or there’s a person that has a genetic defect that can’t eliminate these toxins. So adding them into your diet when all you’re doing is carnivore really defeats the purpose of doing carnivore.

Dr. Deb 9:49You want to ditch the processed foods. Say goodbye to anything added sugars, preservatives or artificial ingredients. Your focus should be on whole on.

Dr. Deb 10:00Processed foods. So when you’re shopping, only shop the outside edge of the grocery store, but avoid where the fruits and vegetables section is. For this part, we usually talk about just shopping on the outside. When you’re doing carnivore, you got to avoid the fruits and vegetable aisle. You want to make sure you really stay hydrated and mind your electrolytes. This is critical. As your body adapts to carnivore, you might lose water weight, which can deplete electrolytes. Adding salt to your food and sipping on bone broth can make all the difference in the world on how you’re feeling. I want to give you a pro tip. Keep it simple and listen to your body if you’re hungry, eat if you’re not, don’t force it. Carnivore naturally helps regulate your appetite, so you’ll find yourself eating more intuitively.

Dr. Deb 10:51And here’s a little bonus tip for my coffee lovers out there, if you’re struggling to give up cream and sweetener, try adding a bit of butter or heavy cream instead. It’s truly a game changer.

Dr. Deb 11:04All right, before we dive into something incredible like success stories and strategies for breakthrough

Dr. Deb 11:11and looking at our common challenges, let’s take a quick break and hear from today’s sponsor. Stick around because you don’t want to miss the tips I’m about to share with you. They’ll help you thrive on this diet, and you haven’t. If you haven’t already liked, subscribed or shared, it means a lot to me and kee...

Do not miss these highlights:

05:22 Men are very adept at hiding their fear, and they have done a marvellous job of convincing women that they are confident.

06:23 Power in an intimate relationship is very different from power in relationships in the world of work or in the external world. 

07:19 How women hold power in families and in relationships. 

09:27 The fascinating concept of pussy whipped.

10:23 The consequences of having most babies raised primarily by women.

14:20 How can we help men be vulnerable without having the fear of rejection?

17:49 How much it impacts women to understand men’s fears.

20:56 What’s the devastating cost of this problem not being repaired? 

23:36 Men and loneliness.

25:37 Why do men feel like women are too needy?

27:35 Outlets are there, it’s just that men are taught not to use them. 

29:24 Men not having other close relationships creates an enormous burden on a marriage.

31:52 How women can help men open up a conversation. 

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Weiss is a psychotherapist, an award-winning author, and speaker. His decade-long work on understanding the internal lives of men culminated with his recently published bestseller “Hidden in Plain Sight: How Men’s Fears of Women Shape Their Intimate Relationships. Dr. Weiss is a regular contributor to the Psychology Today website and offers workshops nationally about psychotherapy with men and helping men and women understand each other. He practices psychotherapy online from his home on an island in Midcoast Maine, specializing in psychotherapy groups for men and psychotherapy consultation.

https://www.avrumweissphd.com/

Do not miss these highlights:

04:20 How Dr. Ben got started in movement, and why is movement important to him?

18:08 How would somebody start a movement practice in their life?

19:38 2 reasons why you need to work with a good personal trainer.

22:05 Figure out the things you really enjoy doing, then it will be easier to incorporate the other things in.

27:50 People who engage in regular movement, not necessarily exercise, are more functional, happier and better capable of withstanding the stresses of aging. 

29:34 Our bodies are meant to move.

31:16 What you do will not only influence yourself, your spouse, and your kids, but also the people around you. 

32:26 The importance of moving to our brain function – it has a calming and stimulating effect.

37:16 Everything affects your lifestyle, and everything you do has a benefit or a disadvantage – you need to make a choice.

41:47 A lot of people have a tendency to be externally motivated because of peer pressure.

43:40 Your choices are going to have a direct effect on how you are able to live the rest of your life. 

46:31 Movement is a lifestyle.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Ben is a faculty member at Pennsylvania Western University, California. An exercise physiologist, he holds certifications from the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA), and the National Athletic Trainers Association (NATA). He has interests in injury prevention/performance enhancement for endurance athletes and using movement to enhance quality of life. After travels through Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama and Florida for school and work he has been in the Pittsburgh area since 2004. Ben is an active contributor to his profession, with work on a variety of committees of the NSCA, as well as presentations and publications both nationally and internationally. The idea for Moving2Live came from his interest in listening to long form movement related podcasts that were directed either towards professionals or the general public.

https://www.instagram.com/reutebh/?hl=en

https://www.moving2live.com/

Do not miss these highlights:

06:00  Thriving in the 21st century is about what you eat, drink, think and do.

12:40  What is typical today is harmful and not healthy.

13:21 How do you thrive and enjoy living today? Spend 5% of your time (72 minutes) on self-care.

16:58 Diabetes is a lifestyle choice. You can eat yourself sick, or eat yourself well.

18:07 Embracing physiology before pharmacology.

19:40 If you go with the conventions of today, all the convenience, fast food and processed food, you’ll suffer and die young. 

20:45 The role of hydration in detoxification

24:41 Top go-to nutrients – Nature’s Ascorbic. 

27:01 How do you determine a good supplement from a bad supplement?

32:09 What is the role of the immune system today in chronic health?

33:28  The signs of chronic scurvy. 

37:00 Reliving the trauma versus witnessing it. 

42:24 Be guided by nature, nurture and wholeness.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Russell Jaffe received his B.S., MD and Ph.D. from the Boston University School of Medicine, completed residency training in clinical chemistry at the National Institutes of Health and remained on the permanent senior staff before pursuing other interests, including starting the Health Studies Collegium think tank. He is the Founder and Chairman of PERQUE Integrative Health, LLC a company that offers the world scientifically proven, integrative health solutions that speed the transition from sick care to healthful caring. Dr. Jaffe is board certified in Clinical Pathology and in Chemical Pathology and the recipient of the Merck, Sharp & Dohm Excellence in Research Award, the J.D. Lane Award, and the U.S.P.H.S. Meritorious Service Award. Dr. Jaffe was honored as an International Scientist of 2003 by the IBC, Oxford, England, UK for his lifetime contributions to clinical medicine, biochemistry, immunology, methodology, and integrative health policy.

DrJ Website: https://www.drrusselljaffe.com/

DrJ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drrusselljaffe/

DrJ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrRussellJaffe

DrJ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrRussellJaffe

ELISA/ACT Website: https://www.elisaact.com/

PERQUE Website: https://www.perque.com

Do not miss these highlights:

[5:01] How Sol’s life changed from receiving “jack-cines”

[7:59] Utilizing the Regenetics method of sound healing to heal physical and emotional body

[9:30] The process of modifying human genetics through vaccines as described by Leonard Horowitz, author of Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse

[11:45] Studies show that 90% of the problems that manifest in an extremely physical way are emotional and perhaps spiritual

[12:56] Healing is really a process of empowering ourselves and becoming whole on the levels of physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. 

[15:38] The commonality for most people that the second chakra (the sex chakra) is leaking energy as opposed to redistributing it to the upper chakras in the body

[18:11] A look at how the his first activation of Regenetics positively affected his body

[25:27] The Gnostic concept of how the world came into being

[33:31] Receiving the inspiration for his novel from spirit pre-Covid

[35:24] A look into his character Cali who is the archetype of divine feminine energy

[40:49] A look at the vaccine scandals in history and how the French are currently protesting the immunizations

[43:59] We are in a state of evolution of sorts, where we’re moving from a mass centralized society around the world, to a networked decentralized society

[49:29] A reading from his book Cali the Destroyer

[54:07] The indeed to decentralize and empower at a grassroots level

[1:00:00] A look into germ theory and whether germs actually cause illness

Resources Mentioned

Books recommended: 

Peggy Hall https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/peggys-story

What Really Makes You Ill?: Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease Is Wrong by Dawn Lester (Author), David Parker (Author)

Not in His Image: Gnostic Vision, Sacred Ecology, and the Future of Belief by John Lamb Lash (Author) http://www.phoenixregenetics.org/

Phoenix Factor for High-Functioning Female Executives – https://debra-s-school-1b7e.thinkific.com/courses/phoenix-factor-protocol 

About our Guest:

A longtime researcher of shamanism and spirituality, Sol Luckman is an iconoclastic psychonaut devoted to exploring and exposing the truth about human history and potential—wherever that might lead. His new novel, CALI THE DESTROYER, Finalist in both the New Age and Visionary categories of the 2021 International Book Awards, is a page-turner of a sci-fi tale set in an Orwellian future seeded in the dystopian presents that radically rewrites Gnosticism as well as the origins of the earth and humanity. His previous novel, the multi-award-winning SNOOZE: A STORY OF AWAKENING, was a deep dive into Hindu mysticism, lucid dreaming, parallel universes, and cryptozoology. In his two international bestselling nonfiction books on the “revolutionary healing science” (NEXUS Magazine) of his own unique form of sound healing, the Regenetics Method, Luckman examined the critical role played by DNA and consciousness in healing, transformation, and evolution. On the lighter side, Luckman is also an acclaimed humorist. Of his multi-award-winning satirical lexicon, THE ANGEL’S DICTIONARY, Reader Views remarked that he “picked up where writers like Mark Twain and Ambrose Bierce had left off.” More recently, the forthcoming MUSING FROM A SMALL ISLAND combines fascinating memoir, hilarious comedy and inspirational philosophy in a stunningly self-illustrated coffee table book any Lowcountry lover or contemporary art aficionado would be proud to display. 

To learn more about Sol Luckman’s writing and artwork, visit:

personal website: www.CrowRising.com

blog: www.Snooze2Awaken.com

Regenetics: www.PhoenixRegenetics.org

Transcription of Episode #130:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16Welcome back to the show everyone. I’m so excited to be starting with a new guest saw Luckman. Today, we are going to talk about the feminine energy and the feminine power, and how it’s going to be our feminine energy that saves the world. Now we all know that things are crazy right now. Nobody knows what end is up, everybody’s getting to the point where they don’t know what to believe anymore. There’s lots of concerns about the jab. And do you take it? Do you not? Well, Sol has a really great perspective on jack scenes and how they cause autoimmune disease. And better yet, how we can use something called Regenetics that he has worked with for several years to heal the body on an emotional level, you guys are going to just love this conversation. It’s going to take lots of twists and turns and go in many different directions. But we’re also going to share with you some sources that you guys can reach out to and get involved yourself. But also I want to have you listened to this episode and just really engage in the power of femininity and the rise between the feminine energy and how that will truly heal the world in its masculine destruction. So, I want to give you a little bit of information about Saul himself here. Saul is a longtime researcher of shamanism and spirituality. He is agnostic, psycho not devoted to exploring and exposing the truth about human history and the potential wherever that might lead. He has a new novel called Kali, the destroyer finalist in both the new age and visionary categories of 2021 International Book Awards. This is a page turner of a sci fi tale set in the Orwellian future seated in the dystopian press presents that radically rewrites Gnosticism as well as the origins of the earth and the humanity. He has many, many different books that he has written. And he has created a unique form of sound healing called rejects method. And Luckman has examined the critical role played in DNA and the consciousness and healing transformation and evolution. I had the wonderful opportunity to have a conversation with him a few weeks ago, and he and I just really hit it off in our conversations about feminine energy and power of goddesses. And this re rejects method that he used to heal himself from a jack seen injury as he calls it. And I want him to be able to share that information with you. So this is going to be a different conversation for us that we’ve had for a while, but I think you guys are going to really love it. And check him out at the Phoenix Regenetics.org where he is works with his partner, Lee. And together, the two of them have helped many, many victims of heavy metal toxicity, Vaccine Injury, medical injury of all kinds with this, this form of sound medicine that he’s created. So can’t wait to share this with you guys. Let’s dive in right now.

Debra Muth 3:52Hi, everybody, this episode is brought to you by my very own Phoenix Factor coaching program. Look, we are all trying to create that absolute perfect life. Let me show you how to do that for free. In my virtual coaching strategy call. You and I are going to spend 20 minutes chatting about your desires where you want to take your business life, your health, and of course, your sex life. And then I’m going to give you tips and ideas and techniques on how to actually get that going. So you can have that absolutely perfect, amazing life you’re looking for. Now it’s super simple. All you need to do is click on my calendly link here in the podcast notes. And hop on pick your time, and let’s start creating that amazing life that you’re looking for.

Debra Muth 4:48All right, so welcome to the show, Sol. I’m so excited to have you here.

Sol Luckman 4:54Thanks for having me, Dr. Deborah.

Debra Muth 4:56So tell us a little bit about yourself.

Sol Luckman 5:01Wow. existential questions, huh? Yeah, well, I come from an academic background. And I was I was working on a PhD in literature when when I had some, I like to call them jack scenes, because that’s what I call them in my book. And I can avoid censorship sometimes that way. So I had some of those for travel for dissertation research, and I ended up getting really ill because of those. So I have first hand experience with what it’s like to have that kind of damage and to have my you know, one’s life torn apart by by that kind of invasive procedure. And I spent a long time trying to get well, I was very ill with an autoimmune, mysterious autoimmune situation that went on for the better part of a decade. And I ended up figuring out how to heal myself using energy and sound, sound healing, through a rather miraculous series of events, I detail all of this in one of my books called potentiate your DNA. I also talked about it in another book called c...

In this episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb sits down with Dr. Paul Heroux, a physicist and toxicologist, associate professor at McGill University's Faculty of Medicine, and vice chair of the International Commission on the Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields.

Together, they examine the research showing biological effects on human cells at levels far below what regulators call safe, and why those standards have not been meaningfully updated since 1996.

This is a thoughtful, science-forward conversation about the technology woven into daily life and how to think critically about it without giving up the modern world you rely on.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Why current safety standards are based on heat alone, and what that misses about living cells

- How electromagnetic fields can generate reactive oxygen species linked to chronic disease

- The connection between EMF exposure and diabetes, neurological conditions, and fertility

- What "dirty electricity," smart meters, and always-on Bluetooth are actually doing in your home

- Practical, low-cost ways to reduce your exposure without giving up modern life

What Dr. Heroux says:

"There is a difference between scientific reality and what is acknowledged as science when powerful interests are involved."

"It doesn't have anything to do with heating. It has to do with the fact that you, being alive, have these active currents. The interaction is extremely deep."

"I love technology. I think it's wonderful. But we should not use it to shoot ourselves in the foot."

Timestamps:

[00:06] The reassurance you've been given, and why it deserves scrutiny

[04:17] Dr. Heroux's path from physics and engineering into health science

[07:50] The lead-in-gasoline parallel: science vs. powerful interests

[13:00] Why cell phone safety standards trace back to military testing

[16:30] The flaw in heat-based testing, and what keeps cells alive

[19:25] Biological effects at fields far below "safe" limits

[23:04] EMFs, reactive oxygen species, and the diseases of civilization

[29:37] What dirty electricity is and where it comes from

[34:36] Smart meters, smart homes, and always-on devices

[42:16] Reproductive health and falling fertility

[45:20] Faraday cases, air-tube headsets, and what actually helps

[49:10] Practical steps the average person can take today

[57:13] What Dr. Heroux wants every parent, patient, and physician to know

Visit Dr. Paul Heroux's book: https://invitroplusnet.wordpress.com/home/textbook-health-effects-of-electromagnetism/

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What if your immune system isn't broken, it's just confused? What if chronic Lyme, the autoimmune condition, the food sensitivities, the exhaustion that never lifts what if those aren't separate problems but one problem? A misfiring immune system that nobody taught how to stand down. Today's guest has spent over 15 years doing exactly that, retraining the immune system from the inside out with a therapy so precise, so safe, and so effective that it has changed the lives of thousands of people who'd been written off by conventional medicine. Stay with me. This one changes everything.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we pull back the curtain on chronic illness, challenge outdated medical thinking, and hand you the real tools to heal from the inside out. I'm Dr. Deb, integrative and functional medicine practitioner, medical detective, and your straight-talking guide through the world of root cause medicine. Today, we're going to dive deep into the immune system, specifically something called low-dose immunotherapy or LDI, and also into some hormones, chronic fatigue, and what it actually looks like to treat the cause instead of suppressing the symptoms. If you or someone you love has been told there's nothing more we can do, this episode was made for you. Grab your cup of coffee, Settle in and let's get to work. Now, before we bring in today's guest, a quick word from our sponsor, and then we are diving straight in. I promise. Did you know sweating can literally heal your cells? Infrared saunas don't just relax you, they detox your body, balance hormones, and boost mitochondrial energy. I'm obsessed with my HealthTech Sauna, and right now you can save $500 with my code at healthtechhealth.com/dr-muth-req-25.

I want to start you with a story because this is one I've heard hundreds of times in my own practice, and I'm guessing you've either lived it or know someone who has. She's 42. She's been sick for years. Fatigue that doesn't lift with sleep, joint pain that migrates, brain fog so thick she can't finish a sentence, and a gut that seems to react to everything she eats. She's been to her GP, rheumatologist, gastroenterologist, maybe even an immunologist, and every single lab comes back within quote unquote normal limits. She's handed a prescription for something to manage the symptoms and sent home. Maybe she's been told it's anxiety. Maybe she's been told it's aging, or maybe and this one always breaks my heart she's told it's all in her head. That woman is not imagining it. She is not anxious and she's not aging poorly. Her immune system has lost its ability to tolerate things it's supposed to tolerate, and no one has offered her the therapy that could actually fix that. And what we're talking about today with my guest has been practicing integrative medicine for over 15 years. Ty Vincent holds a medical degree from the University of Washington. He completed his family medicine residency in Anchorage, Alaska, and since has built one of the most impressive clinical repertoires I've seen anywhere in this field: acupuncture, Chinese medicine, environmental medicine, bioidentical hormones, hyperbaric medicine, chelation, regenerative peptide therapy, psychedelic-assisted therapy, and nutritional medicine.

He lives and practices on the Big Island of Hawaii. He is married has 9 children. Oh my gosh, 9! And he has personally navigated type 1 diabetes, which, as you'll hear, is not separate from his mission. It actually is his mission. And most importantly, he is a world authority on low-dose immunotherapy, a therapy he pioneered in 2008 and since has trained over 200 providers globally and changed the course of chronic illness care as we know it. I have had the pleasure of learning from Dr. Ty Vincent. I have had pleasure of taking his low-dose immunotherapy course when he first started back in like 2008 or 2009. I remember doing it back then and learning more about it in 2011. And this is going to be a great conversation for us. So one quick ask that I have for you guys, if this sounds like something that you want to learn more about and you've listened to some of our shows, please share like, subscribe. It means a lot. It helps us grow our channel. It helps us continue to provide for you different topics, different speakers, and really give you what it is that you're looking for.

So without further ado, I'd like to introduce you to Dr. Ty Vincent. All right, so Dr. Ty Vincent, this is gonna be a great conversation. We were just chatting before we went live of my training with you guys way back in like 2015, and I'm excited to hear all the new things that you've got going on. But introduce yourself to the audience. Tell us a little bit about you, how you got involved in this, uh, where you're at, all that good stuff.

Tyvincent 5:29

Okay. I, uh, it's a long story, but some of the highlights, I guess I was born in Alaska in the early '70s and grew up there kind of wandering around in the woods with my dogs with no one around all day long. It was amazing. You don't get kids don't get that experience anymore. So you kind of learn to be an independent thinker, I think, you know, because latchkey kid, parents weren't home till 6 and you're on your own from early.

Dr. Deb Muth 5:49

That was a great time, wasn't it? Yeah.

Tyvincent 5:51

I mean, I have, I have 9 children now and none of them grew up like me. And despite my effort, I mean, I'd have to basically like helicopter them out in the woods and drop them off for a few hours for them to understand what independent kids today are so dependent and parents are so helicopter that, uh, it's changed. Anyway, I, I grew up just really liking science and really loving science, a huge nerd. And, um, and, uh, when I went into college, when I wanted to be a marine biologist and I thought that that was my passion of the ocean wildlife and all that, and then halfway through college, personal Couple things made me change my mind. It was a girl, you know, the usual. And I decided to go to school in Anchorage instead of going I was, I was transferring to Hawaii and I was going to study marine biology. And then, uh, my girlfriend moved back to Alaska where we were from. And I decided to do that instead. And then they didn't have a marine science program.

So I decided I'll just get a biology degree and go to medical school. I'm a smart guy. I can do that, but I had no awareness of medicine. I really didn't have any, you know, the passion some people have to be a healer and to go help people wasn't part of the calculus at all for me. I was kind of an Asperger's kid, so that really wasn't the way I thought, honestly. And then I went into medicine and I was really interested in the science, the biology, the biochemistry, all the stuff, the physiology. And before I started medical school, I was reading some Andrew Weil's books and I was, I decided to get a book on nutritional biochemistry because I naively thought that's what they were going to teach me, right? This is how you make people healthy. You figure out how it works and you give them the things that make their body work right. Yeah. And we all know that that's. Not been true for over 100 years now since the Flexner Report. And, you know, the rich people steered the government towards pharmaceuticals.

Dr. Deb Muth 7:26

Yeah.

Tyvincent 7:26

But that was my interest. And when I went through the first 2 years of medical school, I just really devoured all of the basic science stuff. And that was what I thought was the most important. And I honestly mastered all that. I scored in the top 1% in the country on all the exams and everything. And it was the top, in the top of my class at the University of Washington. And then you start doing clinical medical training and you discover that they don't use any of that knowledge anymore, really, unless it pertains directly to pharmaceuticals, and that pharmaceutical research is extremely narrow and reductionist, and they only want to try to prove one little effect, and it doesn't translate to real health. So as I got into clinical work and started residency, you know, by the third year of residency, I was like, they didn't really teach me how to help people with chronic illness. You know, I was, I went to family medicine residency, so I was delivering babies.

I was assisting with surgeries. I was in the ER. I was doing colonoscopies. I actually did colonoscopies in practice after residency, which family Doctors almost never get to do, but I'm a small town in Alaska. So I managed my own ICU patients and did everything, literally circumcisions in the office. And you're dealing with like hospice and end of life care, just both ends, right? Pregnancy to death. And so I'd realized that if I really wanted to do the job well, which was my goal, I needed to learn other things. And in my, in my third year of residency, I actually did the extra, like, like additional training in medical acupuncture that was put on by the Helms Medical Institute then with Joseph Helms.

And that was great. And I had to learn Chinese medical theory and I learned, I did the extra module on Chinese herbal medicine. And it was wonderful because I had to open my mind to a completely different way to evaluate people and illness. And I thought, okay, well then there's got to be more. And as I went, I just became this voracious consumer of broad medical knowledge, not conventional medicine. You notice how a lot of the conventional people call it traditional medicine?

Dr. Deb Muth 9:07

Yes.

Tyvincent 9:07

Which annoys the crap out of me because there's nothing traditional about something that's been around for 100 years. I mean, you need time, you need like an epoch to say something's traditional....

Imagine your body has a repair manual, instructions written in your cells that tell tissues how to heal, blood vessels, how to grow, and inflammation when to stop. But what if those instructions got lost somewhere along the way? Well, today I'm talking about peptides, tiny protein fragments that act like biological text messages. Two of them, BPC 157 and TB 500.

They're showing remarkable promise for gut repair, joint recovery, and tissue regeneration. But here's what nobody's telling you. Women respond differently to these healing signals, especially during hormonal transitions. And today, we're uncovering the science behind these regenerative peptides, who actually needs them, and why your doctor might not know about them.

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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal. I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective. And today we're diving into regenerative peptides BPC157 and TB 500. If you or someone you love is struggling with slow recovery from injury, chronic joint pain, gut inflammation that just won't quit,

or you just feel like your body doesn't bounce back the way it used to, this episode is for you. Grab a cup of coffee or tea or whatever helps you unwind, settle in, and let's start you on your journey to deeper healing. We'll do another sponsor break here.

Deb 00:01:52

So let's start with the question I hear constantly in my practice. Dr. Deb, I'm doing everything right. I'm eating clean, I'm exercising, I'm taking my supplements, but I'm still not healing. What am I missing? Well, that answer might surprise you. Sometimes it's not about what you're putting in your body. It's about whether your cells are actually receiving the repair signals they need. That's where peptides come in. Think of peptides as

The body's original communication system. These short chains of amino acids are like biological post-it notes carrying instructions from one cell to another. They tell your human system when to calm down, your blood vessels when to grow and your tissues when to repair. Now here's where it gets interesting for women specifically. We know that estrogen plays a massive role in collagen production, vascular health,

inflammatory response. When estrogen starts declining, whether that's perimenopause, postpartum, or even from chronic stress, our natural repair mechanisms slow down dramatically. You might notice it as my joints are aching more, I'm a little more fluid filled, you know, they hurt when I bend them, my injuries take twice as long to heal.

Gut issues that suddenly appear out of nowhere and no matter what you do, they don't seem to repair. Skin has lost its elasticity or just this general sense that your body isn't keeping up anymore. This is where BPC 157 and TB 500 entered the picture. So BPC 157, short for body protection compound 157, is a naturally occurring peptide sequence

found in your gastric juices. And according to a 2024 systemic review published in emerging use of BPC 157 in orthopedic sports medicine, this peptide promotes something called angiogenesis. That's the formation of new blood vessels and they deliver oxygen and nutrients to damaged tissues. Now TB 500 is a synthetic fragment of thymus and beta-4.

Deb 00:04:17

a protein your body makes naturally during wound healing and research published in therapeutic peptides in orthopedics in 2025 shows that it works like a cellular first responder rushing to injury sites and coordinating tissue repair through a process called actin regulation. But here's what makes these peptides different from just taking another supplement. They don't force your body to do anything.

they simply remind yourselves how to heal the way they used to. And for women navigating hormonal changes, autoimmune flares, chronic inflammatory conditions, that distinction matters enormously. all right, let's get into some of these mechanisms because understanding how something works helps you make informed decisions about whether or not it's right for you. So,

Let's look at the science. Do these peptides actually work? And if so, how do they work? Let's start with BPC 157. This works through multiple pathways simultaneously. First, it activates growth factor receptors that stimulate fibroblasts. Those are the cells responsible for making collagen and rebuilding connective tissue. And according to research published in Frontiers and Pharmacology in 2023, titled Regeneration or Risk,

BPC 157 also modulates nitric oxide signaling, which enhances vascular repair and reduces oxidative stress at the cellular level. So this is really important because many of us are nitric oxide deficient, especially as we get older, especially since the pandemic, we're seeing a lot of people being more deficient in nitric oxide and you're taking nitric oxide, many of you, to help with this process. But

if we're having other issues that don't allow that nitric oxide to get where it needs to go, that could render it completely useless. So in plain English, when we're talking about how BPC 157 helps the blood vessels work better and protects your mitochondria, big word for your energy factories and your cells from that inflammatory damage.

Deb 00:06:38

Now there's studies in musculoskeletal and gastroenterology models that show BPC157 decreases inflammatory cytokines like TNF-alpha and IL-6. And these are chemical messengers that keep inflammation turned on. So by dialing them down, BPC157 creates an environment where healing can actually happen. Now, where do we know about this?

TNFL and IL-6, well, we know it from viruses, we know it from Lyme disease, we know it from mold toxicity. These cytokines are turned up, they're creating a massive inflammatory response in the body, and you're struggling to get these things down because of that or potentially other reasons. So here's where it gets really interesting with women in perimenopause or menopause. When estrogen declines,

collagen synthesis slows down. And that's why we see increased joint pain, slower wound healing, and our changes in the skin's elasticity during this transition. We see the little wrinkles, the fine lines, we see the subcutaneous fat going away a little bit more. This is partially why this is occurring. And so from research shown in the Journal of Orthopedic Research in 2023 by Leibowitz and colleagues, that

they suggest that BPC157 affects on the endothelial layers. So the cells lining the blood vessels and these may mimic some of the estrogen's protective vascular effects without actually affecting your hormone levels. This is really huge because we know that as women lose estrogen, they have a higher risk for vascular events, heart attack, stroke, things like that. And if people have already had a heart attack or a stroke,

We typically recommend that they don't use estrogen because that could potentiate the risk for another heart attack or a stroke. But that means that you don't gain the benefits of estrogen either. So if we think about this, we could potentially use BPC 157 to give us some of the benefits that we lost from having estrogen and potentially not being able to use estrogen. And that would be huge for us.

Deb 00:08:57

And not to mention the reduction of inflammation and the joint pain and the wound healing and the energy and the gut feelings. I mean, there's just so many benefits to BPC 157 that we could talk about them all day long. But we've got to move on. So let's talk about TB 500. Now this peptide works very differently. Its primary job is promoting cell migration, essentially telling repair cells to go to this spot

and what to do when they get there. So it sends a signal, puts a little post-it stamp there and says, Hey, when you get there, fix A, B, C, and D. And there was a study in 2024 in cell biology international that demonstrated that TB 500 increases epithelial closure and improves tendon elasticity in models of repetitive strain injury. So let's think about that a little bit. What does that really mean?

That means faster recovery from exercise induced muscle damage, better healing of overuse injuries like tennis elbow or plantar fasciitis, improved scar tissue remodeling after surgery or a C-section, enhanced recovery from chronic inflammatory conditions affecting soft tissues. And I've talked about this several times. I have used these compounds post-surgical personally.

And I remember going back to see my surgeon at the two to three week mark for follow-up. And she was amazed at how well everything was healing. And when I asked her if she wanted to know what I was doing, her response was no, but keep doing whatever you're doing because it's working. And after three weeks of a major pelvic repair surgery that I had,

four hours in surgery, lots of sutures, not comfortable. I was actually walking a mile and didn't have pain and I was recovering really well and felt amazing. And that is just not typically heard of in surgical procedures like mine. It's usually a minimum of a six to eight week recovery before you're starting to do that again. And I give all of the credit to these two peptides.

Deb 00:11:17

In my clinical practice, I see this play out constantly. Women who train hard, whether that's CrossFit, running, yoga, or just trying to keep up with active kids, often hit a wall where their recovery can't keep up pace with their activity level. And TB 500 helps to bridge that gap by optimizing the body's natural r

What if the future of healing isn't about replacing cells, but about teaching your body how to heal itself again? We keep hearing the words stem cells and exoomes thrown around like they're interchangeable, but they're not. One is regulated, controversial, and often misunderstood. The other is rapidly emerging as one of the most exciting communication systems in human biology.

Dr. Deb Muth 00:33

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Dr. Deb Muth 01:02

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Dr. Deb Muth 01:28

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I'm Dr. Deb, your host. And if you've been following regenerative medicine, you've probably noticed the confusion. Patients are asking me every week, are exoomes stem cells? Are stem cells legal in the United States? I heard the FDA is shutting down all these clinics. Can I even get this therapy? Do I have to leave the country for treatment? Today, we're cutting through the noise. This episode is not hype.

Dr. Deb Muth 01:54

It's not sales. It's education so you can understand the science, the regulatory reality, and the clinical difference between stem cell therapy and exoome therapy. And here's what I want you to know right up front. Yes, these therapies are being used in the United States every single day. Yes, they're being offered by highly trained physicians in integrative and regenerative medicine clinics across the country.

Dr. Deb Muth 02:22

Some are being used in FDA registered clinical trials. Some are being used in observational studies and some are being used in clinical practice under physician discretion. The landscape is nuanced and you deserve to understand it. So, grab your cup of coffee or tea and settle in for a deep dive into the most understood therapies in regenerative medicine.

Dr. Deb Muth 02:43

what they actually are, how they work, the regulatory landscape, and how they might support your body's natural healing capacity. Let's talk wellness now. So, let me start by asking you something. When you hear the word stem cell, what do you picture? Most people imagine damaged tissues magically regenerating or a torn meniscus growing back, cartilage reforming it into an arthritic joint or damaged brain tissue being replaced with healthy new beautiful cells. It's a beautiful vision.

Dr. Deb Muth 03:15

And while it's not quite that simple, the reality is actually more sophisticated and honestly more beautiful. Stem cells are powerful and they absolutely work, but the way they work and the mechanism by which they support healing is far more elegant and more so than most people really understand. And if you're going to invest in regenerative therapy, you deserve to understand what you're actually receiving.

Dr. Deb Muth 03:44

So, let's start at the beginning. What are stem cells? At their core, stem cells are undifferentiated cells. That means they haven't yet decided what they want to be when they grow up. Unlike a heart cell or a skin cell or a bone cell which have already committed to a specific function, stem cells exist in this beautiful state of potential.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:05

They have two remarkable abilities. First, they can self-renew. They can make copies of themselves, maintaining a reserve of these powerful cells throughout your lifetime. Second, they can differentiate under the right conditions. They can transform into specialized cell types. Bone cells, cartilage cells, nerve cells, muscle cells, even blood cells.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:27

This is why they've captured the imagination of the medical world. The potential is extraordinary. Now, there are several types of stem cells and understanding the differences matters tremendously for both understanding how they work and understanding how they're regulated. Adult mezzenymal stem cells. We call these MSC's are the most commonly used regenerative medicine.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:54

These come from bone marrow, atapost tissue, that's fat, and other adult sources. They're what we can call multi-potent, meaning they can become several types of cells, but not every type. A bone marrow stem cell isn't going to become a brain cell, for instance. It has potential but it's directed potential.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:19

Then we have perinatal stem cells. These come from umbilical cord blood cord tissue or something called Wharton's jelly which is the gelatinous substance inside the umbilical cord. These cells are younger, more potent, and research by Weiss and colleagues published in stem cells back in 2006 showed that Wharton's jelly derived MSC's have superior proliferation and differentiation potential compared to bone marrow derived cells.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:48

They're like comparing a 20-year-old athlete to a 50-year-old athlete. Both can perform, but one has more reserve capacity, more vigor, and more regenerative potential. And this isn't this is very important because the perinatal sources umbilical cord tissue Wharton's jelly amniotic tissue these are what many regenerative medicine clinics in the United States are using today and they're using them because these tissues are incredibly rich in not just stem cells but growth factors cytoines and exoomes.

Dr. Deb Muth 06:21

Then there are embryionic stem cells. These are pur potent and they become any cell type in the body, but they're highly regulated, ethically controversial, and honestly, they're not being used in clinical practice in the United States outside of the very specific FDA approved research trials.

Dr. Deb Muth 06:41

So, when clinics talk about stem cell therapy, they're almost never talking about embryionic stem cells. Now, here's where it gets interesting and this is the part that changes everything about how we understand regenerative medicine. When you receive stem cell therapy, let's say someone injects umbilical cord derived messenymal stem cells into your arthritic knee, those cells do not typically engraft or become new tissue in any permanent way.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:12

They don't set up shop in your joint and start cracking out new cartilage cells for the rest of your life. So what are they actually doing then? Well, in 2011, researchers Arnold Arnold Kaplan and Dennis Korea published a landmark paper in stem cells translational medicine that fundamentally changed how we understand MSC therapy.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:35

They proposed that we should stop calling memal stem cells and start calling them medicinal signaling cells. Why? Well, because their primary therapeutic benefit doesn't come from what they become. It comes from what they secrete. Think of stem cells as incredibly sophisticated biological pharmacies. When you inject them into damaged tissue, that arthritic knee, that inflamed autoimmune condition, that injured brain, that don't just sit there passively, they sense the environment.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:07

They detect inflammation. They recognize the tissue damage and they understand that the immune dysregulation is present and they see that and respond. They start pumping out hundreds of bioactive molecules, growth factors that tell your cells to repair and rebuild, cytoines that modulate inflammation, chemocines that recruit your body's own healing cells to the area.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:32

And these tiny membranes bound packages called extracellular vesicles, including exosomes, which we're going to talk about extensively today as well. These secreted factors are giving instructions to your native cells. They're saying, "Let's reduce inflammation. Let's modulate your immune response. Let's promote angioenesis.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:53

" That's the formation of new blood vessels, bringing nutrients and oxygen. Let's stimulate your own resident stem cells to wake up and get to work. Reduce cell death in damaged tissue and restore normal cellular function. This is called paracrine signaling. It's the cellto cell communication. And this is where the real therapeutic power lives.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:14

The stem cells themselves, many of them die within days to weeks, but the cascade of healing they trigger, the signals they send, the programs they activate in your own cells, those effects can last for months or even years. Now, this understanding is crucial because it explains why both stem cell therapy and exoo therapy can be effective.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:38

The stem cells are powerful not because they become new tissue but because of the signals they send and exoomes are those signals isolated and concentrated. The biggest misconception in regenerative medicine is that stem cells replace tissue and in reality they coach healing more than they become healing. They're biological educators teaching your body to remember how it used to heal before chronic inflammation, toxicity, and disease turned off all those programs.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:12

So if stem cells don't exactly end graft and become the new tissue, if their power is in their signaling and then next logic

What if everything you've been told about getting healthy is backwards?

What if chasing symptoms with pills, procedures, and quick fixes is exactly why you're still sick?

Tired, inflamed, and frustrated.

Today, I'm sitting down with Dr. Holly Donahue, a naturopathic doctor who walked away from corporate burnout to discover the truth.

Your body already knows how to heal. You just need to remove what's blocking it, and give it what it's missing.

If you're done with Band-Aid solutions and ready for real, lasting transformation, this conversation changes everything.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal.

I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today, we're diving into the hidden truth about whole body wellness, and why treating symptoms will never give you the vibrant health you deserve.

I'm joined by Dr. Holly Donahue, a licensed naturopathic doctor with over two decades of clinical experiencing

Helping high performers heal from burnout, chronic fatigue, hormone imbalance, and stubborn weight issues.

She's the founder of Simple Health, and she's here to share the science-backed approach to root cause healing that addresses your body, mind, and spirit, not just your lab values.

If you or someone you love has been diagnosed with a chronic condition, or is struggling with unexplained symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, hormonal chaos, or chronic inflammation.

This episode is for you. Please share it with them.

So, as usual, grab your cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you unwind, settle in, and let's get started on your journey to deeper healing.

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All right. So, Dr. Donahue, let's start with the question that's on everyone's mind, right? How did you transition away from corporate and into the world of, naturopath… natural medicine, naturopathic medicine, root cause medicine, all the wonderful terms we're using for this these days?

Dr. Holly Donahue 02:56

Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me, Dr. Debb. I so appreciate it, and that is a beautiful question, and I will share with you my health journey and why I got into this, and…

how I got to do this amazing work, right? Because I always believed, for me, my higher being is God, and it walked right into me, right? Because I was pretty happy in the apparel industry. So, just as you said, I was in the apparel industry, I, my education doesn't really matter, but double, like, marketing and textile marketing, and I was in design, and I was working in design.

from LA to London to the East Coast.

And 2 days after September 11th, to sum it up, I got laid off. Even though I had been pulled out of a job where my vice president of the company was like, I want you to come down here with me, and the apparel industry, you're switching every two to three years. For those that don't know it, that's just how the journey works, and I was known as a changemaker in the field.

And so, here we are two days after September 11th, and I was seeing a naturopath, and I was, let's see, 29 to 30, right? And so, prior to that, the reason why I searched out for a naturopath was because in my teenage years, and…

Up until that time, I was suffering with horrible menstrual cramps and horrible depression, hence why I moved to LA, thinking if I was in the sun all the time, my life would change, which we all do, change our place, change our time, things will change. Had nothing to do with family or roots, but I thought, if I'm around sunshine all the time, I won't be depressed. Well, wherever you go, there you are, because it went with me, right? So I had my foot down to the ground, and I was

just like, I am committed to not living life like this, right?

even at 7 years old, I had strep ear all the time, and my mom's like, we're gonna have your tonsils out, and I'm like, no we're not. And she goes, no, you're gonna feel so much better, no more strep ear. And I'm like, God gave them to me for a reason, you're not taking them out. She's like, okay, like, I was really strong.

And so, let's wind up to 2 days after September 11th. Prior to that, I had started to retake chemistry and biology, because I haven't taken it since my textile years, which was a different chemistry, right? And so, I thought, well, I'll just start and see where it goes, because my naturopath at the time.

Dr. Dadama was like, we need more naturopaths, and I'm like, I'm really good where I am. I love what I do, I love corporate America, I love designing, I love product development.

And he's like, no, no, no, so he kept talking. Well, when this all fell…

And 2 days after September 11th, I raised my hand and I said, God, I hear you. I went off to naturopathic medicine school in my 30s.

And I never looked back, and I just really believe the gift of healing was, put together for me in so many ways. And so, why do I love talking about natural medicine, naturopathic medicine? Because I was not gonna just take an antidepressant, which is what the medical world… they wanted to give me a pill for a nail, that's what I call it. I didn't need to be on birth control. I wasn't sexually active.

Right? So none of that made sense to me. And it wasn't until I really changed my nutrition, began to understand who I am as a person, and what my body really needed, did I heal.

Dr. Deb Muth 06:20

Isn't that amazing? Like, I think so many of us enter into the alternative quote-unquote world.

Because what is happening over here in what is known as the traditional medicine world

isn't working for people, and no one's listening to them, and we just follow the traditional protocol, whether it makes sense or not, this is the protocol, everybody gets it. There's no individuality, no personalization, nothing that happens in that world.

And so, people tend to go looking for that… that uniqueness that natural medicine and naturopaths allow to happen. And that's where true healing actually begins, for so many people.

Dr. Holly Donahue 07:02

Yes, and honestly, once my hormones were healed, hence why I talk about hormones all the time, and my thyroid was healed, and I was eating the right nutrition, and for those of you that are listening, please stop playing with nutrition, like, get on that… get on that connection of what works for you. And I'll be honest, like, none of us as doctors can… we can guide you.

what's really good in eating, but figuring it out for yourself is important. And the other naturopath that I saw.

Never healed me.

I only got so far by just taking supplements and herbs. And I speak that into that, that's why I'm so driven around the foundation of our medicine. I am not just saying this, is your nutrition. And until I changed my nutrition, and I figured out what workouts work best for me, and I took all the toxicity and mucus out of my body, I was just inflamed, and I didn't really

it. I was eating all the wrong foods.

Right? My body can't do searches and simple sugars, hence why I talk about it, and so many people are addicted to sugar, and they deny it.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:11

Yeah.

Dr. Holly Donahue 08:11

It's a comfort food, right? So, I always say, I can't heal you until I fix your nutrition and your sugar, and if that's not something that you're willing to work on with me with love, I am not the right practitioner.

Because I remember it didn't heal me.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:29

Yeah.

I think we forget that nutrition is our medicine, right?

Food is thy medicine. And it's so easy for us to just say, but it's easier to just take 10 supplements than it is to change my diet, cook for the whole family, and then cook for me.

Nutrition is really, really difficult for people, because so much of who we are is born into nutrition, right? All of those family traditions of what we make at Christmas, or Easter, or what do you do for a celebration, when all of that changes, you kind of… you have a loss for things. So how do you work around that with people?

Dr. Holly Donahue 09:12

Yeah, so I look at that as, I'm always suggesting to individuals in all these different celebrations, like, if you're the one, kind of.

that is the pinnacle that's creating the celebrations, could you change that, right? So maybe you always have people over for your children's birthday parties, and you have cake, and, you know, you have a spaghetti dinner, whatever it looks like. I'm not judging, I'm not here to judge, I just know what works, right? Then maybe you get to change that. How about doing an outdoor activity with the children? Maybe choosing to go on a hike to the beach where they're

active.

And then, you know, you do a healthy treat with them, or do we always have to have these celebrations around sugar? And I'm talking America, because I never saw this when I lived in Europe, like, the way it is here, right? Or, as adults, we're celebrating with alcohol all the time, right? I removed sugar and alcohol from my diet years ago just because I knew I just didn't feel good with it. I'm not judging that that's what you need to do.

So, back to your question, the other suggestion I say, if you can with your family, because I know there's all sorts of…

Hidden rules, quiet rules, ways you have to do things to be fit in. First of all, stand up for your own health, so I suggest that. And secondly, how about if you bring something to that meal that you can share with everybody that you know that you can eat? If that doesn't work, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty confident,...

Well, welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I am your host, Dr. Deb. And what is the most talked about peptides in functional medicine? aren't actually FDA approved. Not because they don't work, but because no one's funded the research to prove it yet. The truth is some of the compounds that dominate wellness forums, BPC-157, TB-500, thymosin beta-4, epitalin occupy a fascinating space between breakthrough science and unregulated experimentation. In today's episode, we're stepping into that gray zone, the world of investigational peptides to separate mechanism from marketing. I'm going to walk you through the science that actually actually shows and where it stops, how to evaluate claims when human data don't yet exist and the quality, purity and safety red flags that you need to recognize. I created in a previous episode,

Dr. Deb Muth 01:06

so go check that one out. And why honesty is the most important prescription in peptide medicine. If you've ever wondered whether these research-only peptides are the frontier of healing or the next functional medicine fad, this episode is for you. So grab your cup of tea or coffee, get comfortable, and let's talk about what it really means to use peptides that are promising, but still under investigation. So we're going to break just for a second here and have a word from our sponsor. It is because of them that we stay on the air. So thank you for this. And we will be right back. Did you know sweating can literally heal your cells? Infrared saunas don't just relax you. They detox your body, balance hormones and boost mitochondrial energy. I'm obsessed with my Health Tech sauna. And right now, you can save $500 with my code at healthtechhealth.com slash dr-muth-req-25.

Dr. Deb Muth 02:15

All right, guys, welcome back. Let's dive into investigational peptides, the evidence gap. So the following peptides we're about ready to discuss are extensively in integrative, functional and regenerative medicine circles. They may have intriguing mechanisms and promising preclinical data. However, they lack FDA approval and the evidence quality varies dramatically. from interesting preliminary research to essentially no human data at all. And this distinction is really critical for maintaining scientific integrity. So let's talk about immune-modulating peptides. There's thymus and alpha-1, and this is an international story on the thymic peptides. Thymusin alpha-1, known as TA1, is marketed internationally as zidaxin.

Dr. Deb Muth 03:16

It's a 28 amino acid polypeptide originally isolated from thymusin fraction 5, which was extracted from bovine thymusin tissue. Modern production uses synthetic peptide synthesis. The thymus gland is located behind the sternum and is the primary site for T cell maturation and thymic peptides like TA1 play roles in the human system development and regulation. Now, I love thymus peptides. I love thymus glandular products. I've used thymus glandular products for decades. Ground up animal thymus gland is basically what it is. There's a couple of different supplement companies that I've used over the years that are amazing with this. and they do a fantastic job and they really do help to support the immune system. So when thymus peptides came out, it was really exciting because it took the whole idea of thymus support to a new level.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:17

The mechanism actually behind the thymus in alpha-1 is complex and involves multiple aspects of immune function. At the cellular level, TA1 enhances T cell maturation and differentiation, particularly the development of helper T cells and cytotoxic T cells. It modulates T cell receptor expression and can influence the balance between Th1 cell-mediated immunity and Th2 humoral immunity responses. And it also enhances the natural killer cell activity and modulates dendritic cell function, which are critical for antigen presentation. and initiation of adaptive immune responses. And on the cytokine level, TA1 influences production of interleukin-2, IL-2, interferon gamma, IFN-Y, and interleukin-10, IL-10.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:19

These create immune modulatory rather than simple immune stimulatory effects. This is a very important distinction because TA1 appears to help balance the immune system rather than simply ramping this up which theoretically makes it safer in conditions where immune overstimulation would be a problem, such as an autoimmune disease. Hashimoto's, autoimmune, lupus, Sjogren's, any of those autoimmune diseases, we don't want to overstimulate their immune system. So you want to use a product like this that's non-stimulating. Now, the regulatory status on TA1 is geographically variable and represents one of the challenges in discussing this peptide with patients. It is not FDA approved in the United States. However, it is approved in several other countries for specific conditions.

Dr. Deb Muth 06:19

In Italy, it's approved for treatment of chronic hepatitis B and hepatitis C. In China, it's approved for chronic hepatitis B and adjunct immune compromised patients receiving vaccinations or suffering from certain infections. It has orphan drug designation in the United States for certain cancer indications, but its designation does not constitute approval. It simply provides regulatory incentives for further development. So the evidence base for thymosin alpha-1 is substantial in some areas but comes primarily from non-US populations and research groups, which creates challenges in evaluating quality and generalizable information. So in hepatitis B and C, multiple clinical trials, many conducted in China and Italy, have examined TA1 as an adjunct to antiviral therapy.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:21

A meta-analysis by Wu and colleagues published in the Journal of Viral Hepatitis in 2013 examined 23 randomized controlled trials, including over 2,000 patients with chronic hepatitis B. The analysis found that combining TA1 with nucleoside analogs like LAMVDUDE or an and TCAVAR improved the hepatitis antigen seroconversion rates by HBV DNA clearance compared to its nucleoside analogs alone. And the effect sizes were modest but statistically significant with the HBE-AG seroconversion rates improving from about 24% with antivirals alone to 38% in combined therapy. Now in hepatitis C, early trials before the development of direct acting antivirals showed that TA1 combined with interferon alpha improved sustained virology responses and compared to interferon alpha,

Dr. Deb Muth 08:30

furon alone, particularly in difficult to treat populations like those with a genotype one or a high viral load. However, the advent of highly effective direct acting antivirals that achieve SRV rates, sorry, SVR rates exceeding 95%, the role of TA1 in hepatitis C has become less clear. Now in sepsis and critical illness, More recent interest has focused on TA1 in severe cases of sepsis and septic shock. Ren and colleagues published a systemic review and meta-analysis in the Frontiers of Immunology in 2022, analyzing 18 randomized controlled trials, including 1787 patients with severe sepsis or septic shock the pooled analysis showed that ta1 administration was associated with reduced 28-day mortality relative risk at 0.70 meaning a 30 reduction in mortality compared to the standard care alone and the effect appeared

Dr. Deb Muth 09:39

most pronounced in patients with sepsis-induced immunosuppression measured by HLA-DR expression in monocytes. Now, this is amazing because going forward, we're going to talk about something that's commonly known as cytokine storm. Now, cytokine storm really became apparent since 2020 with the viral infection that we're dealing with in the world today. But they were already looking at this kind of cytokine storm produced by sepsis or sepsis-induced immunosuppression. And it triggered this hyperinflammatory response called the cytokine storm. And many patients who survived the initial phase of the immune suppressed stata, characterized by a T cell exhaustion, reduced antigen presentation, and increased susceptibility to secondary infections. Thymusin alpha-1, TA1, may help restore this immune competence in this phase. However, it's important to note that patient selection and timing are critical.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:43

Giving this immune stimulant during a hyperinflammatory phase could theoretically worsen outcomes. So you don't want to give it to them while they're in the flare up or the sepsis or the infection, but given to them during the immunosuppression phase afterwards might be beneficial. Now there is also some cancer immunotherapy that we see with TA1 and has been studied as an adjunct in cancer treatment with the hypothesis that it could enhance immune surveillance and response to tumors. And a comprehensive review of Garci and colleagues published in Expert Opinion on Biological Therapy in 2007 examined multiple trials in melanoma, lung cancer, hepatocellular carcinoma, and other malignancies. And the results were mixed. Some trials showed improvement in the immune parameters, increased CD4 in T-cells. improved lymphocyte proliferation responses and some actually showed trends toward improved progression free survival but overall survival benefits were inconsistent and the heterogeneity of the cancer types treatment protocols and outcome measures makes a definitive conclusion difficult as a vaccine adjunct several studies particularly from china have examined ta1 as an adjunct to enhance vaccine responses

Dr. Deb Muth 12:11

in immune-compromised populations, including the elderly, dialysis patients, and transplant recipients. The rationale is sound. These populations often mount suboptimal antibody responses to vaccines, and TA1's immune-enhanci...

Welcome back to let's Talk Wellness. Now, I'm your host, Dr. Deb. If you're a woman who's doing everything right, eating clean, exercising, taking supplements, yet you still feel exhausted, inflamed, or like your body suddenly stopped cooperating, this episode is for you. Today's conversation challenges one of the biggest myths in women's health. That midlife struggles are just about hormones or worse, just part of aging. My guest today is Dr. Deb Heald, a naturopathic physician with one of the most fascinating backgrounds I've ever encountered. Yeah, she's got a really diverse background, which is kind of exciting. She's been an ER nurse, a stockbroker, a Silicon Valley data analysis, teaching machines to learn from microbiome research. And yes, she holds an mba, too. But it was her own menopause crash that changed everything. When the protocols she had been teaching stopped working for her, her, she didn't double down on templates or trends. She did what she was trained to do. She followed the data and what she discovered reframed menopause, metabolism and women's longevity in a completely different way. This isn't about willpower. It's not about another diet, and it's definitely not about copying what worked for someone else. It's about learning to listen to your body and finally understanding what it's been trying to tell you and all along. So grab your cup of coffee or tea, settle in, and let's dive into this amazing conversation about women's health and menopause. And right after our guest is arriving with us, we're going to get a word from our sponsor quick here. And then we are going to come right back to having this conversation with Dr. Deb Heald. Ladies, it's time to reignite your vitality. Primal Queen supplements are clean, powerful formulas made for women like you who want balance, strength, and energy that lasts. Get 25% off@primal queen.com Serenity Health. Because every queen deserves to feel in her prime. But okay. All right. Welcome back, everybody. I am here with my new friend, Dr. Deb Heald. And she has such an amazing background, like I shared with you a few minutes ago. But I would love for her to give us her insight in how she got where she did, because it's rare that you find somebody with a data background and a medical background. So, Dr. Dove, welcome.

Dr Deb Heald 2:30

Thank you. I am so glad to be here, and it's a real privilege to meet you.

Dr. Deb Muth 2:34

I feel the same way.

Dr Deb Heald 2:35

Yeah, it's. I think that the more of us that start to think and practice this way, the easier it's going to be for women going forward. Because it's not easy.

Dr. Deb Muth 2:44

It is not easy. I mean, I've been in this industry a long time, over 25 years. And every time I think it's getting easy, it's getting harder for a variety of reasons. It's the medical system, it's the. The clients we work with are sicker. It's taking longer to get them to a place where they feel good. There's just so many variables these days. So tell me a little bit about what got you here.

Dr Deb Heald 3:06

Well, I made the decision when I was graduating from high school to be a nurse instead of a teacher, because those were really still the two options that were common for women. I thought about medicine at that point, but my sister convinced me that if I would spend all that time learning and practicing medicine, I might not be as good of a mom. So I took the path of nurse, because nurse works around kids schedules and that sort of thing. I'd only been practicing about six months before I thought, oh my gosh, there has to be more to it than this, and toyed with the idea of starting med school at that point, but then married and started having children, and I just sort of fell into that pattern. But I typically work emergency room. There was a short stent in the post anesthesia recovery room as well. And emergency room was a place where western medicine actually shone. Right. People come in, they are no longer capable of functioning, they're having a heart attack, they lost limb. Whatever else, they do need the, the bells and the whistles of western medicine. But when you think about it, western medicine was derived out of the Civil War where you didn't have to say what's the cause of the problem. It was a bullet or a bayonet, and it was, it was about patching up the soldiers and getting them back on the front line so they could continue to fight. And naturopathic medicine, which had been a lot around for an awful lot longer than that, just didn't work in the battlefield then. The assessment was done in the early 1900s as to which style of medicine got people back to work faster. The Flexner report was all about how corporations could maximize the value of employees. And naturopathic medicine didn't win because nutritional fixes take a long time. Taking away somebody's stress so that they can just function more capably is. It's a, It's a big ask, right? So the funding of naturopathic medicine went away and western medicine became all that we knew. So in context to the emergency room, it worked. But when I saw the same person coming in, having their third heart attack, I just thought, how is this happening? Has no one told this person what, what's going on in their lifestyle that's creating this environment for them to continue to have heart attacks? And so that's when I made the switch. And that was after 17 years in practice as a nurse to head on over to the naturopathic side. There was a little bit of a, a segue there, but we'd need a much longer interview to get into the details of that. I was a stock broker for six years. Anyway, when I jumped into the idea of med school, it didn't make sense to be practicing the same thing that was already being practiced because I saw where it worked and I saw where it was failing. So hopped into the naturopathic tract. I also had one child that had a lot of physical and emotional ailments that western medicine couldn't solve. Their answer to everything was putting her on amoxicillin. And I, I just absolutely could not convince the medical system that she didn't have a deficiency of antibiotics, but that was their only solution. And so while she was on the antibiotics, her sinuses were clear, her sleep apnea was not an issue, and she appeared better, but her microbiome got decimated. She was on antibiotics for seven years. So, yeah, so my pursuit down the naturopathic pathway was in large part to try and figure out what else could be done for my daughter. And I did take her to a naturopath or I embarked on the field myself. And her GP threatened to call social services. Oh my gosh, yes.

Dr. Deb Muth 6:22

You hear these stories, I've heard these stories from clients before over really dumb things that they're going to call CPS for. And it always blows my mind that we think it's appropriate to call CPS on somebody who's truly not injuring their child.

Dr Deb Heald 6:38

So anyway, that started my 17 year path in the naturopathic realm. And after, after I've been in practice about 10 years, an opportunity came up to move to Silicon Valley and research the microbiome and then take what we were learning from the microbiome and program it into AI. So I did that for a few years and it was amazing. There was a huge disconnect between the funding model and what its expectations were and what the research was able to do. There was a time gap, there was a funding gap. And so I thought, medicine doesn't understand what's important to business. And Business isn't understanding what's critical to research. So I went and did my MBA and wanted to be able to be the translator between those two worlds. And then the pandemic hit and then.

Dr. Deb Muth 7:24

Everyone'S life got turned upside down, right?

Dr Deb Heald 7:26

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm back in private practice. My, my practice always tended to be more autoimmune focused, which is predominantly women and predominantly middle aged women. But through my own experience of menopause and looking at how I assisted people that were in menopause before I was, you know, that the success rate wasn't as high as it needed to be. And I started to really drill down into the biochemistry behind what was going on and then also realized that my menopause was very different than even my sister's menopause. There we were, the same genetic template, the same lived environment, though very different lived experiences in that environment. And realized that we have to find ways to make it relevant to the person in front of us. And it's not so much which herbs will or won't work historically, it's how is this person's body responding in the immediate term to the diet we've put them on, to the nutritional plan we've suggested to the supplements, and because we've come so far in the data world, our whoop straps or aura rings or whatever else, there's so many devices that are actually able to let us know whether somebody's burning carbs or fat in this moment or ketones. We can see how an individual's body is responding and course correct right now. And it isn't that a ketogenic diet may not be helpful down the road. It's right now it's actually putting more stress on your body than it's already under, which puts you into fight flight, which stops you from burning fat. So, and it's not just the burning fat, it's the inflammation. Right. So our food is completely void of nutrients. And we used to have 24 inches of topsoil, now we've got, so who's eating four times the number of vegetables that we, we used to eat to get the same number of nutrients? We're just not. And our environment is so full of plastic and chlorine molecules and just toxins that our liver says, I have no idea what that is, I have no idea how to detoxify it. And we can't,...

Today's guest is someone I'm honored to call both a friend and a mentor, and one of the most trusted voices in medicine for patients with complex chronic illness. Dr. Neal Nathan is a board certified family physician who has spent decades caring for patients who don't fit neatly into diagnostic boxes. Patients with mold related illnesses, Lyme disease, mast cell activation, and profound nervous system dysregulation. These are the patients who are often told their labs are normal and their symptoms are anxiety or that nothing more can be done. Instead of dismissing them, Dr. Nathan listened and he asked better questions. His work, including his landmark book, Toxic, has helped thousands of people finally feel seen, believed, and understood, and more importantly, has given them a path forward when medicine failed them. This conversation is for anyone who reacts to supplements or medications, for anyone who has gotten worse instead of better with treatment, and for anyone who knows their body that something deeper is going on, even if they've been told otherwise. Dr. Nathan, I'm deeply grateful for your mentorship, your integrity, and the way you continue to advocate for the most vulnerable patients. I'm so glad to have you here today. And before we begin, grab a cup of coffee, tea, or whatever grounds you, because this is the conversation you'll want to settle into. Now, before we go onto this conversation, we need to hear from our sponsors. So give us just a quick moment and then Dr. Nathan and I are going to dive in to his story and how this all started for him and leave you with some nuggets of wisdom that you can help yourself with. Ladies, it's time to reignite your vitality. Primal Queen supplements are clean, powerful formulas made for women like you who want balance, strength, and energy that lasts. Get 25% off@primalqueen.com Serenity Health that's PrimalQueen.com Serenity Health because every queen deserves to feel in her prime the right places and then we can get started. All right? So, Dr. Nathan, like I said, I'm so excited to have you here today. Tell us a little bit about how did you start your career? Because you didn't intend to work with the most complex and sensitive patients, I'm sure when you started out. But what did you notice early on that made you realize medicine was missing something?

Neil Nathan MD 3:03

You know, Deb, actually, I did start out wanting to work with the most complicated cases. My delusional fantasy when I started was I wanted to help every single person who walked into my office. And so when I left medical school, I realized pretty quickly that the tools that I learned there were not adequate to do That I needed to learn more. So I started on a passionate journey of discovery, if you will, in which I started studying with anyone who had anything interesting about healing to talk about. And I want to emphasize that I was interested in healing, not in what I'll call medical technology. So medical school taught me to be a good medical technologist, but it didn't teach me about healing. I graduated a long time ago. I graduated from Medical School in 1971. And the word holistic wasn't even a word back in those days, but that's what I was looking for over many, many years. I studied osteopathic manipulation, homeopathy, therapeutic touch, emotional release techniques, hypnosis. If it's weird, I probably have studied it at some point. I wasted some weekends studying things that I don't think were particularly valuable. And I've had some remarkable experiences with true healers that taught me how to expand my understanding of what healing really meant. So early on, when I first started practice, I would invite my colleagues to send me their most complicated patients because that was my learning. That makes me weird. I know that. I love some problem solving. You know, I'm the kind of person who I get up in the morning and I do all of the New York Times kinds of puzzles. That's. That's my brain wake up call. So actually I did invite my colleagues to send me their complicated patients, and they did. So, I mean, they were thrilled to have me in the community because these were people they didn't know what to do with. And I was happy as a clam with all these complicated things that I had no idea what to do with. But it pushed me to keep learning more, to keep searching for this person's answer. And this person's answer, that constant question is, what am I missing? What is it that I don't know or understand? What questions am I not asking this person that would help me to figure it out? So sorry for the long winded digression.

Dr. Deb Muth 6:14

No, I'm glad you shared that. I'm very similar to you. I didn't seek out working with the most complex, but as I started that, I was always very curious as well. So I was the same as you. Every weekend I would learn something and hypnosis and naturopathic medicine, homeopathy, and all these quote unquote weird things, right? And there's always a pearl that you learn from something. You never not learn anything, but some of it, you kind of take or leave or integrate or not. And, and I think it, it makes you a better Practitioner, because you have all these tools in your toolbox for helping people that nobody else has been able to help. And. And it's just kind of fun learning. I mean, I'm kind of a geek that way too. I like to learn all those things.

Neil Nathan MD 7:00

Learning is my passion. One of my greatest joys in life is going to a medical meeting and getting a pearl. Literally. I'm not one of these people at medical meetings that have a computer in front of me listening. And I have a pad of paper and I'm writing down ideas next to people that I'm working with. So that, oh, let's bring this up for these people. Let's bring this up for these people. So it's like, oh, great. Can't get right back to the office on Monday so I can start, have some new ideas about what I'm missing.

Dr. Deb Muth 7:38

Yeah, I do the same thing. I have my pad of paper and I do the same thing. And as I hear something, I'm thinking about a person that's in my office that I haven't been able to help, or we've been stuck on something, and I'm like, oh, there's a new thing we can try. And it's so exciting. I love that. Let me ask you this. Was there a time when you finally thought, like, if I don't listen to these patients differently, they might not ever get better?

Neil Nathan MD 8:04

That's a very complicated question. The people that I was treating that weren't getting better were the ones that got my greatest attention. And one of the questions that constantly troubled me still does is, is this person not getting better because of some feature of themselves, or is it because of something that I don't know? So I've wrestled with that for a very long time. My answer to it now is, For a long time, I've been able to see what I will call the light in a person. Call it a healing spark and energy. It isn't truly light. There's just something about that person when I work with them where I know this person will get well if I stick with them long enough. And then when I don't get that, I don't think I've helped any of those people over the years. Yeah, so it was a very long process of really not helping people for five years daily. And I would. I would ask those patients, I would say, you know, I haven't helped you. We've been doing this for a very long time. Why are you still here? And they would say, because you care. And I would. Back when I was Younger, that was enough for me to go. That's true. Okay, I'll keep working at it. But as I've gotten older, caring isn't enough. It's. I'm not sure I'm the right person for you. And so as I've gotten older, when I don't see that spark, when I don't get that sense of someone, I'm more inclined early on in the relationship to tell them I'm not the right person for you. Yeah, you know, see if you can find someone else who can understand what you're going through and help you. Because I, I'm not it.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:16

Yeah, you, you kind of know that you can help them or not. Yeah.

Neil Nathan MD 10:21

I don't know how to define that sense, but it's very clear to me. I call it like seeing the inner light of another being. If it's not there, and maybe it's not there for me to see as opposed to someone else can see it.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:41

That's interesting. So you're known for working with patients who are highly reactive. They don't tolerate supplements, a lot of times medications, or even some of your most gentlest protocols. Why are these patients so often misunderstood?

Neil Nathan MD 10:59

Because they appear to their family and to many other physicians to be so sensitive that the thought process of families and other physicians is often. Nobody's that sensitive. This has got to be in your head. And that is what is conveyed to those patients. And they're told it's gotta be in your head. Go see a psychiatrist or a therapist. But I can't help you. And unfortunately, we have learned in the last 20 years a great deal about, is making our patients so sensitive. It is a true reaction of their nervous system and immune system, and it is in response to various medical conditions they have. So again, as we've been talking about, those were the people that got sent to me for many years. And I, I have never believed that the majority of any. Anything that someone has experienced is in their head. Yeah, Almost everything I look at is real. I may not understand what is causing it, but for me, doubting a patient's experience is not something I've ever done. And that's what's helped fuel what I've learned and what you learned over the year. That, okay, if this is real, and it is, I'm sure it is,...

Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now. I’m your host, Dr Deb Muth, and today we’re diving into one of my favorite healing tools, infrared sauna therapy and how it’s transforming detox, longevity and recovery. If you’ve ever struggled with fatigue, brain fog or stubborn inflammation. You’ve probably heard me talk about how toxins can overload your body systems, but what if you could accelerate your healing, improve circulation and support your mitochondria, all while still sitting in a warm, peaceful environment that feels like self care instead of like a treatment. My guest today, Tiffany Dubeck, from health tech sauna, is here to help us understand how this powerful technology works and why not all Infrared Saunas are created equal. We’ll talk about the science behind full spectrum infrared therapy, why detoxing through skin is one of the safest, most effective ways to reduce toxic burden, how to choose the right sauna for your home or practice, and how you can use this therapy to support longevity hormones and brain health. So grab a cup of tea, settle in, and let’s explore how heat can heal with Tiffany Dubeck from Health Tech saunas, Tiffany, Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now. Can you start sharing a little bit about your background, how you got involved with health tech sauna,

Tiffany Dubeck 1:34

working with high tech health I’m part of the Science Advisory Board, medical advisory board here, and we, you know, we’re very research based company, and it’s just perfectly in alignment with what I love to talk about, what I love to educate about, what I believe in. You know, the natural healing capability of the body and the Saunas are, yeah, just perfect for that. So I head up the practitioner program here, I like to educate our customers with the sauna usage. We do a lot with the science and the data. And, yeah, it’s, it’s amazing. It’s the best company out there. So

Dr. Deb 2:12

that’s, I love the health of tech sauna. I’ve had one for well over Oh, I’m going to age myself probably two decades, at least 20 years, and I love my sauna. I’ve never had a problem with it ever. That’s what makes it so awesome, and it’s so easy to put together.

Tiffany Dubeck 2:29

Yes, I know. And you know, a lot of people, I didn’t even realize this when I got into practice, how easy it is to incorporate an infrared sauna into your home. I you know, I would just use it at the gym, or there was different, you know, health facilities I would go to, but, yeah, I didn’t even think of having it in my home till I was like, you know, actively in my own practice, and, and educating people about that. And, and, yeah, and I love, love it. It’s so convenient. It’s amazing. Doesn’t use up a lot of electricity, and you’re able to be more consistent with it, so then you can get all those wonderful benefits.

Dr. Deb 3:09

Absolutely. You know, for those who’ve never experienced it, what exactly is an infrared sauna, and how does it differ from a traditional sauna?

Tiffany Dubeck 3:19

Good question. Yeah. People are very familiar with the traditional saunas, the finished style saunas. It’s different because it uses a different method of heat delivery. So traditional saunas will use convection. It’s relying upon the air temperature to get really, really hot, so anywhere between 170 usually 200

Dr. Deb 3:43

degrees, like our oven, like a convection, like our oven, right?

Tiffany Dubeck 3:49

Exactly, yep. And then that’s going to indirectly heat the body, raising the core body temperature, and then you get those healing benefits with an infrared it’s unique because it has a direct method of heat. It uses radiant heat, and it has the ability to directly penetrate, interact with the water molecules, raise our core body temperature, and then leads to all of those benefits. So it’s a wavelength from the sun, right? We get it from the sun, the wonderful healing light from the sun. This is invisible, but we experience it as heat. So if you go outside on a cold day, but the sun is out, the warmth that you feel on your skin, that’s the infrared, and it I like to use the comparison, like if you’re outside on a really hot summer day, and it’s 100 degrees outside, and you go in the shade, that’s like a traditional sauna. If you step out into the sun, that is infrared, right? And you experience it as a lot it’s a lot hotter, um. You get those benefits faster. Core body temperature is raising quicker and but you’re able to use them in the sauna at much lower temperatures to get those same benefits. So radiant heat, it accounts for about 50 or 60 degrees. So if you’re using the infrared sauna at 130 it’s pretty comparable to a traditional sauna at, you know, 171

Unknown Speaker 5:25

80 degrees.

Dr. Deb 5:27

That’s a huge difference. I love that the the room temperature in the sauna doesn’t get that hot, like you can be in there at 140 degrees, and it doesn’t feel that hot. And if it does get a little warm, you just kick the door open just a smidge, let a little bit of cool air come in to calm the temperature down a little bit so you can tolerate it, but it’s still completely penetrating your body. And I

Tiffany Dubeck 5:50

love that, yes, and you’re getting that infrared exposure within two minutes of starting your sauna. So some people like to get it in right away. We recommend heating it up to around 100 degrees and then getting in it’s you use it differently as well than a traditional sauna, but yeah, so much more comfortable. You’re not your lungs aren’t feeling all that heat and feeling very uncomfortable. I love to crack my door open to every once in a while, but we have a unique feature in our saunas, the active ventilation, the fresh air fan. So when you’re using that, it’s decreasing the carbon dioxide build up by 46% and it’s really eliminating those symptoms of feeling stuffy or claustrophobic that you usually get in the sauna. So again, it’s just however it’s like to make it more comfortable and however people can use it more consistently to get those long term benefits that are associated with sauna therapy.

Dr. Deb 6:48

Yeah, I love that. Can you explain? How does the infrared light support the actual detox pathway on a cellular level?

Unknown Speaker 6:56

Yeah, great question too.

Tiffany Dubeck 7:00

It uses has the unique ability to mobilize toxins out of the fat cells and directly out of the body. So you’re going to get a lot of, you know, cellular health benefits. That way, you’re removing a huge toxic load out of the body. It’s very effective for that. And I think, you know, really just raising the core body temperature is going to create some physiological adaptations in the body. When you use your sauna, consistently, over time, you’re going to become more heat acclimated, and then you’ll get the production of what’s called Heat Shock proteins. And these are like the special helper proteins in our body. They decline with age, and when you use sauna, you’re getting more of a production of them. And they’re, they’re going to go in and repair and fix any damage to the cell, so, so that it can’t lead to, you know, so it doesn’t lead to disease. So you get, yeah, using your sauna more consistently, you’re getting that, that great protection for your cells by heat shock protein production. One of the

Dr. Deb 8:08

things a lot of our clients ask is, what happens to me if I go in the sauna and I don’t really sweat?

Tiffany Dubeck 8:16

Yes, so that’s one of the other things. That’s one of the we have that happen a lot a lot of people don’t sweat easily, or they have a really high toxic load in their body, so it takes time, and that’s again, associated with becoming heat acclimated. So that happens by using the sauna consistently, you know, repetitively, over time, and one of those adaptations that happen, the changes in the body that leads to the benefits, are sweating more and at lower temperatures. So when you become heat acclimated, you will notice you will sweat more as the body becomes more efficient at cooling itself down. So it takes time. You know, some people have a condition, I guess, where they aren’t able to sweat, and those we usually don’t recommend, you know, in a sauna, or you work with the healthcare practitioner to address the root cause of that. But for general population, being consistent in your usage, you will notice you’ll be more effective at detoxing, and then you’re getting that huge load of, you know, the heavy metals, the arsenic, the mercury, cadmium, lead, a lot of the phthalates that we’re exposed to, the plasticizers,

Unknown Speaker 9:34

persistent organic pollutants. I mean, all the things, right?

Dr. Deb 9:37

85,000 chemicals that we can count to date, right?

Tiffany Dubeck 9:42

I think the EPA reported there’s like 20,000 of those that can’t be really readily eliminated from our body, because we don’t have those efficient like the detox pathways for them, so they just linger in our cells, mostly in our fat tissues, right? And that’s why Saunas are so great. Because they mobilize the toxins out of the fat cell, out of the body, and there’s data that shows where they tested that right? The bus studies, I don’t know if you’ve heard of that, the blood, urine and sweat studies, and there will be really high measurable levels of those heavy metals and toxins in the sweat that don’t show up in blood or urine. So sweating is extremely effective, and I should say to passive sweating through like the infrared sauna, because you’re not using you’re not making the byproducts of like that. You wouldn’t use it or make an exercise. So it’s even more effective at ridding the body of that high toxic ...

Courtney Jarman02:30Thank you for having me.

Dr. Deb Muth02:32So tell us a little bit about who you are, and how you got involved in this.

Courtney Jarman02:37Yeah, sure. So my husband and I built a house because we were always scared ofmold problems. And you know, inheriting a house that has, like all different types of, you know, vocs. And so we built a house, and a few years later we noticed some symptoms like Lyme disease symptoms. I had some Lyme disease symptoms. I actually couldn’t walk after the birth of my second child, and my husband had a horrible sinus infection that lasted like 3 weeks, and it wasn’t going away. So at the time I happened to be talking to a friend of mine who he’s a mycologist.and he was basically telling us that we have a fungal problem in our house, like, based on our symptoms. And I was like, it’s like a new house like you’re just wrong about this. He’s like, just call pure maintenance. He could, because he had a fungal problem in his house in Colorado, and him and his girlfriend were getting really sick, and so they called pure maintenance, and they did like a free inspection. They found out there was like some toilet ring that was leaking which you can’t see. You know those are things that you can’t see in your house.They found it, and you know they removed it, and they treated the house. He felt much better, so he told me to call pure maintenance, and we got an inspection, and I had a really high spore level in our home. And I was like freaking out, of course, because I have 2 young kids, you know, and so we had them treat the house, and our symptoms went away. Our symptoms went away beforehe treated the house, because we opened the windows. We went outside. We took antifungals. So we kind of like figured out what it was. So my lyme disease symptoms started to like go away little by little, and then, when we treated the house. We haven’t had any symptoms after that.Oh, can you hear me or no?

Dr. Deb Muth04:21We can hear you. Yep.

Courtney Jarman04:22Okay.

Dr. Deb Muth04:24Can you hear me? Okay? Still.

Courtney Jarman04:25I can hear you. Yeah. Same. Okay, let me know if I’m too loud, because I can adjust it here. But

Dr. Deb Muth04:30Oh, you’re good!

Courtney Jarman04:31Okay, cool. So yeah, we we got a house treated, and I had to ask the guy to come up from Illinois. So I like, you know, booked a bunch of my friends houses to like. Let’s just check your house from old.and he ended up treating a few houses, and you know, I started to investigate because I was a general contractor on our house build. I learned how to build houses. I was like, really into building science, and I found out in our house we had logs that we brought in from outside that I just like left out like that’s fine. Let’s bring them in. They’re dry. There’s no mold right? It’s dry. The house is dry. There’s no mold that’s like the misconception, right? Or like, yeah, there’s like a little mold patch. Here we spilled something on a window, but, like.you know, it’s not a big deal, andended up that we had like a window sill that. A few window sills with moisture on it, plus these logs, and we closed our windows. We kind of live in a cabin, so we have no Hvac. That’s like circulating air. So the combination of the the high spore level, and like probably high humidity, and like low air, flow in our house caused a mold problem. So I started educating myself on this. Andyou know I realized that there was nobody else. Nobody in Wisconsin doing this, and you know, every time this guy came up from Illinois is charging like a travel fee which is good for him. You know he has to, you know, travel a few hours. But I thought people needed this in Wisconsin. So it was my background. And you know, medical physics and building. And I just love to be like an active person and helping people. I’m really into like general health and wellness, I thought, well, this is like a perfect thing for me to do.

Dr. Deb Muth06:02Old? Was your house at that point.

Courtney Jarman06:05What’s that?

Dr. Deb Muth06:06How old was your house at that point.

Courtney Jarman06:08Like 2 and a half years old.

Dr. Deb Muth06:10Oh, my gosh! So you know that that is the mystery. Right? We treat a lot of patients, too, and they’ll say I have a brand new house. It’s 3 or 4 years old, and they don’t realize that those wood beams, the logs, all the building materials sit out all summer, or sometimes all winter, and they get wet, and when the contractors come in they put it up.and if it’s damp or moist they still put Drywall over the top of it. And this is a lot of times how we end up with mold behind the walls that we don’t recognize. It’s not always a damage that comes in most of the time it is, but sometimes it’s not, and this is how our brand new houses can still be sick buildings.

Courtney Jarman06:49Yeah. And that’s a big, that’s a good point about closing in the walls when they’re wet, which actually, I was very picky about our walls being super dry, and it’s sometimes the interior building materials like you don’t know what happened in the factory, you know, when you get into this. You just hear stories. I’m sure you hear stories and stories, you know, like, how could my house have mold in it? And I was recently in a house that was 7 years old. They’ve never had any water damagethat they know of, like none. It’s just like, you know, it’s perfectly dry. And they did an Ermi test because they actually got a blood test for Mycotoxins. It was a urine or blood test.

Dr. Deb Muth07:24Hmm.

Courtney Jarman07:25This lady’s an Md. So she recognized it, and her daughter got the test, and it came back really high for Mycotoxin. So they did an Ermi test which is like the whole house test. It was.

Dr. Deb Muth07:34J.

Courtney Jarman07:34Super hot this off the charts just off the charts, you know, so it’s like aI didn’t have a motion, you know, to come in and sterilize it. Essentially.Yeah, there’s nothing wet you gotta take out. There’s nothing really. You have to fix.So. And so we should talk about how mold works in a building right? Because people when they think about mold, they’re like, Oh, there’s some visible mold, or like the house is dry. And this was like, I was confused on this for a long time.So basically, once you have mold you have spores, it’s spores are like the seed of the mold. Essentially it sends out the spores various times, not always. But then those spores mix into your house’s dust, your house’s air. They get into your house’s building materials, and they’re very, very small submicron, I think, like, between like 300,000 and 1 million can fit on the head of a PIN, you know. So they’rethey can be everywhere. And then, you know, you essentially, when you have a whole house problem eventually, because you have little pockets here, little pockets there, a little thing here. And so your spore level just goes up and up and up. And once you deal with these spores they’re not going to go down. So that’s kind of like the premise for the technology. Instead of, you know, ripping out little spot treatments here, cleaning this cleaning that we deal with the spore level and the whole mold level in the house.So that’s you know that was what that was what was confusing to me. When Iinto this and dormant mold, even though it’s dry, dormant mold, you know, it’s basically it can last for thousands of years those right? And so you breathe that in it finds moisture in your body. It finds moisture in your dishwasher. It finds moisture. You can’t even see it a lot of times.So.

Dr. Deb Muth09:05It’s so hard, you know, so many of these building materials, too. For a while we had contaminated Osp back in the early 2 thousands that came in from overseas, and people would put Osp up in their house and not know that it was contaminated with mold spores. So when we worry about how we get some of this. We don’t always know what comes in. I love the analogy that you’re giving. You know, we can cut things out. We can put holes in walls, we can dig for things, we can find things.but we’re still not eliminating the mold spores, and if those mold spores are still there, dead or alive, they can still make us sick.So can you talk a little bit about your dry tech techno...

Dr. Deb 3:39Women, your age, hear this again? Women your age often get anxious about their health. Have you considered therapy? These dismissals aren’t just frustrating, they’re dangerous. Now let me share some shocking statistics a John Hopkins study published in the BMJ quality and safety found that medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the United States, and misdiagnosis plays a major role when it comes to cancer. Specifically, the statistics are alarming. Studies published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology show that approximately 12% of cancer patients are initially misdiagnosed for certain cancers like lymphoma, sarcoma and melanoma. Misdiagnosis rates can reach up to 44% According to research from the Journal of the American Medical Association, even more concerning a 2020 JAMA Network open study found that one in five patients seeking a second opinion at a major medical center received a substantially different diagnosis that changed their treatment. Treatment plan entirely. The average autoimmune patient waits four years and sees five doctors before receiving a correct diagnosis. According to the American autoimmune related disease Association, the diagnostic journey for specific conditions is even more troubling. Multiple Sclerosis patients typically wait an average of seven years from symptom onset to diagnosis, with many being told they have psychiatric issues or stress. According to a 2022 study in the multiple sclerosis journal, Parkinson’s disease, patients often experience a two to three year delay in diagnosis, with up to 25% initially misdiagnosed with conditions like essential tremor or stress related symptoms, as reported in a 2021 study published in the Journal of Parkinson’s Disease. Lyme disease patients face some of the longest diagnostic journeys, an average of 1.9 years. I’m going to say that’s incorrect, because the clients I see are much longer than that, sometimes five to 10 years. And many of these visits, according to the Journal of Medicine, five healthcare providers before a correct diagnosis. My clients that I see are closer to 50, with many being labeled as having chronic fatigue syndrome or fibromyalgia, according to research from the International Journal of Medicine, women, you get to win on this one,

Dr. Deb 6:43women are diagnosed with anxiety and depression at twice the rate of men, even when presenting with identical symptoms of physical disease, as found in a landmark study of the New England Journal of Medicine. Behind these statistics are real people whose lives have been forever changed by medical gas lighting. Now I want to tell you a story about Sarah. She spent six years being told her debilitating fatigue was just depression. I couldn’t get out of bed. I had brain fog so bad I couldn’t remember my address. Every doctor I saw prescribed antidepressants or told me to exercise more. One even suggested I was enjoying the sick role. Finally, a rheumatologist tested me for Sjogren syndrome, an autoimmune disease my labs came back with some of the highest antibody levels she’d ever seen. Six years of my life gone, all because no one would believe me. Sarah said,

Dr. Deb 7:51Sarah’s story isn’t unique. Let me share another patient’s experience. This is James, who was 42 when he first noticed a slight tremor in the right hand. James says my primary doctor told me it was an essential tremor and probably stress related. When I mentioned that I was also experiencing stiffness and balance issues, he suggested I try yoga. It took three years in a chance appointment with a neurologist who specialized in movement disorders to finally get my Parkinson’s diagnosis. He says by then he had lost his job because people thought he was drinking and he lost work due to his unsteady gait, those years of dismissal cost him his career. And then there’s Lisa, whose symptoms of Lyme disease were dismissed for nearly five years. Lisa says the joint pain started after a camping trip, then came the debilitating fatigue and the cognitive issues. I was diagnosed with, everything from fibromyalgia to depression. One doctor actually said chronic Lyme disease doesn’t even exist. It’s not real. She had another doctor tell her that Lyme doesn’t exist at all. All of this when she just simply asked to be tested for Lyme, because her symptoms started after a camping trip, when she finally found a Lyme literate doctor, her test came back positive, five years of her life spent in bed, unable to function, told it was psychological. She lost her entire 30s to medical gas lighting. These patient stories break my heart. They highlight how different conditions face unique challenges in the diagnostic process, but there’s a common thread medical. Dismissal that costs years of life and well being, not to mention 1000s of dollars. But what’s causing this widespread problem? Let’s explore these underlying factors. Medical gaslighting isn’t usually malicious. Most healthcare providers genuinely want to help. So why does this happen so frequently? Well, it’s the seven minute visit. The average primary care appointment lasts just 18 minutes with only seven minutes of actual doctor patient interaction, complex system, symptoms can’t be properly evaluated in that time frame, and the insurance model allows you to discuss one symptom at each visit. I’ve actually had clients tell me that their doctors have stopped them after them talking about three symptoms because it’s not allowed inside the healthcare system, they would have to make another appointment if they want to talk about more symptoms than that. Now, as a naturopath who specializes in complex chronic illnesses, I’ve seen this firsthand. I had a colleague once share with me, we’re working in a broken system. Doctors are expected to see 25 patients a day, document everything in real time, and somehow provide thoughtful care. Medicine has become a conveyor belt when faced with complex symptoms that don’t really fit neatly into a diagnostic box. It’s faster to attribute them to stress or anxiety than to dive deeper. It’s not defensible, but it explains why good doctors sometimes make terrible mistakes the elephant in the exam room. Well, research consistently shows that medical gas lighting disproportionately affects certain groups, women, especially those of reproductive health concerns, people of color, particularly black women, patients with obesity, who often have all of their symptoms attributed to their weight, and patients with existing mental health diagnoses, ultimately, the GET OUT OF diagnose free card for many doctors. So I want you to hear Marcus’s story. He’s a 32 year old black man whose appendicitis was repeatedly dismissed as drug seeking behavior. Here’s a story. I went to the ER with the worst pain of my life. The doctor barely examined me, asked if I needed something for pain, and sent me home with a diagnosis of constipation. I returned 12 hours later in septic shock. My appendix had ruptured. Later I saw my chart for the first time, and it said I was drug seeking and dramatic. I almost died because of their assumptions. Marcus’s story is unfortunately, not unusual. It happens more often than we think. Medical education focuses heavily on common condition...

Dr. Deb 0:27So you know, it takes about eight to 12 months, sometimes even years, to see a specialist. In that time, people are left waiting, suffering or searching for answers on their own. I know firsthand. I waited two years to see a neurologist,

Dr. Deb 0:45only to be told, Deb,

Dr. Deb 0:48I don’t think you have MS for two years, I lived with that possibility. I almost sold my business, I almost sold my homes, and I questioned my future. Now, deep down, I believed my symptoms were caused by Lyme, mold, toxins and other root causes, but that lingering, what if, haunted me. How many people have gone through the same thing? How many are told that they have a neurological disease, when in reality, no one has investigated the true cause.

Dr. Deb 1:28I have seen this firsthand with many of my clients who’ve been waiting 678, 1012, months to see the rheumatologist, the neurologist, the cardiologist. It is very sad, and it is very hard now, could I have seen a neurologist sooner? Yes, I could have, but my schedule got in the way. I had to cancel my appointment, and then as soon as I canceled my appointment, I had to get another referral, then I had to wait for the referral, then I had to wait for the appointment again, and it was another six months, and then the doctor had to cancel, and then we were back and forth and stuck in all of this mess. And it’s frustrating as the client. It’s frustrating as the practitioner. Why should I have to send a referral three times to the same doctor for the same patient because their appointment was canceled. That shouldn’t have to happen. It shouldn’t have to happen to the client. It shouldn’t have to happen to the provider.

Dr. Deb 2:30You know, it’s it is a struggle, and it is the system that we’re working within today. And it’s my opinion that our healthcare system is failing us. We don’t have enough providers. Wait times are too long, and when we do get to the office, there’s barely enough time for a provider to truly listen. We are the sickest nation in the world, and yet, 90% of our healthcare funds go to treating chronic disease, According to Robert F Kennedy Jr,

Dr. Deb 3:04so what do we do? Do we wait for the government to fix this, or do we take our health into our own hands, the broken healthcare system? Why is it actually failing us? Well, the problem of long wait times, the impact of delayed diagnoses and treatments on patient outcomes. How many illnesses worsened during the waiting period?

Dr. Deb 3:29Overworked and understaffed? Why are there so few providers? How did we get here? Insurance and pharmaceutical industry influence? Are patients being steered towards pharmaceuticals rather than true healing, a true lack of preventative care? Why do we focus more on treating symptoms rather than preventing disease in the first place? These are all questions that we need to answer if we’re truly going to take back our health, and we’re truly going to make a difference in the world of health and wellness.

Dr. Deb 4:10All of these aspects are contributing factors to the unhealthiness of our country, but they are not the only thing. They are not the only reason, because we have power as our own individual, as the freedom we have in this country. We have power to take care of our families, of our homes, of what we put into our body.

Dr. Deb 4:38And in this next segment here, I’m going to show you how you can take back control of your own health, because the good news is we can start at home. Even if we want true wellness, we have to clean up our environment, our food and our bodies. And here’s how

Dr. Deb 4:56you know you have to detox your home, remove toxic.

Dr. Deb 5:00Cleaning products and replace them with good natural options like vinegar and water and baking soda. Try brands like Grove Collaborative for non toxic household products. I have used Grove for, oh my gosh, probably well over 10 years already. They make great products that are natural, they’re not toxic. They make your environment smell good. They clean well, and you don’t have to worry about exposing your children, your grandchildren and your pets, yes, your pets to these toxic chemicals. We do not need them in our environments. Very easy ways get rid of the scented candles and the plug ins, they emit harmful chemicals, and instead, use things like essential oils for a freshness or a natural scent, lavender, lemon. I use a lot of lemon in my house. I love the way lemon smells. It smells clean to me. I add it to some of my natural cleaning products. I diffuse it in the air. It’s just a great, fresh, clean scent. You can get essential oils from places like dolterra or Young Living oils. They are very great, high quality essential oils, and they can be used in a lot of different fashions you want to reduce your EMF exposure. Well, what the hell is EMF exposure? It is electromagnetic field. It is everywhere around us. We talk a lot about 5g

Dr. Deb 6:34that is just one big part of it. But do you know you live in a sea of EMF every single day for me just recording this podcast, I have two computer screens, I have a monitor, I have a computer, I have a phone and I have a

Dr. Deb 6:52stereo speaker. All of those things will emit this electromagnetic field, and unless things are hardwired into your wall. You’re using what’s called Wi Fi. Wi Fi emits a ton of electromagnetic magnetic field. You know, you can buy an EMF meter, and I did this in my office and realized that the sea of what I was floating in was crazy. I was putting off just my computer system stuff. Was putting off over 500,000

Dr. Deb 7:29watts of EMF, and I was sitting at that computer for 12 hours a day, that is not healthy, that is not safe. So I had to find what was it that was emitting that much EMF for me,

Dr. Deb 7:45and the biggest component of it was my printer and was my serial speaker. Those two things emitted so much EMF, and as soon as I made sure I turned off the Bluetooth, made sure I turned off the Wi Fi for them that went way down, went down to, like, almost 6000

Dr. Deb 8:07it was crazy how much I was sitting in front of this causing these issues, and I was wondering why my body was buzzing and why I was getting a headache and why I couldn’t see well. And as soon as all of that was taken away. Those symptoms went away. So it is not a small thing. It is a big deal, and you want to really check what is going on in your phone. You want to use what’s called a safe sleeve. That’s what I have here on my cell phone. A safe sleeve is a

Dr. Deb 8:39cover that goes onto your phone that helps block the EMF, and when you use this, make sure you put your safe sleeve towards your body when you stick it in your pocket, because that’ll really protect you. These kinds of things create a lot of issues for us. We were not meant to be part of this electromagnetic field for 1012, 1415, 20 hours a day, and yet we are now. There’s also something you can do. You can install what’s called a Stetzer meter. This blocks dirty electricity so all of our outlets have dirty electricity floating around in our environment. And if you hold that right there, I’m going to grab one for you so you can see what see what it looks like. Sorry, you probably didn’t hear me so well when I walked away from you. But this is a Stetzer meter. And along with this Stetzer meter, comes a electro reader that you can actually plug into your outlet, and it’ll tell you how much dirty electricity is running through that electrical circuit, and it does that because somewhere in that line, things are not grounded properly, and that dirty electricity is going to cause a lot of symptoms for you, headaches, blurred vision, numbness, tingling, all of those kinds of things when.

Dr. Deb 10:00You find your outlet that’s a problem. You stick one of these Stetter meters inside of there, retest it, and you would be amazed at how low that dirty electricity level goes to. It can go down to nearly nothing. All of these kinds of things are going to help you feel better. Are they costly? No, like a pack of 20 of these Stetzer meters is about 800 bucks, not horribly expensive, and it makes a big difference for you. You want to run air purifiers in your home and crack your window a little bit to really improve your air quality, you have to be mindful of the toxins in our home. We’re in our home a lot. We’re in our work environment a lot. You know, fight to have these things installed in your work environment. Get them in your home environment. It makes a big difference. Why do we want air purifiers there? Because our air is toxic. Now, I know you guys are going to say to me, but I live in a brand new home. Well, so did I and you know what I found in my brand new home,

Dr. Deb 11:04extremely high toxic levels of formaldehyde. Why do we have formaldehyde? Well, formaldehyde off gasses. Everything that’s new that we bring into our brand new home, off gasses, our flooring, off gasses, the stain, the paint, the new furniture that we brought in, all of those things contained formaldehyde, and formaldehyde is a chemical used for embalming fluid. Yes, it’s embalming fluid. And do you want to breathe that every day? No, so you run the air purifier and you crack the window a little bit, and that will help remove those high levels of formaldehyde until the off gassing is done. Now, guess how long it tak...

Dr. Deb 1:20Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now, the podcast where we uncover the latest trends, tools and tips to empower you to take charge of your health and well being. I’m your host, Dr Deb Functional Medicine Practitioner, naturopath and advocate for natural healing. Today, we’re diving into a topic that impacts every aspect of our lives, our neurotransmitters, these tiny, little chemical messengers in the brain influence our mood, energy, focus, sleep and even how our body processes pain, understanding how they work and what happens when they’re out of balance, can give us A whole new perspective on achieving optimal health and wellness. So let’s get started. So what are neurotransmitters Exactly? Well, think of them as the brain’s way of sending text messages to the rest of the body. They’re chemicals that relay messages between nerve cells and impact how we feel, think and act. Some of the major neurotransmitters you may have heard of include serotonin, dopamine, GABA and norepinephrine. Each one has a specific job, and together, they keep us functioning at our best or not, depending on their balance. So let’s break down the big players. Serotonin, known as the feel good neurotransmitter, it affects mood, sleep and appetite. Dopamine, the one that controls the reward and pleasure center, but also plays a big role on focus and motivation. Now dopamine also controls our mood. When dopamine is off, we can behave in somewhat of a bipolar manner when it’s too low, we’ll see symptoms similar to Parkinson’s disease and GABA. Think of that as your brain’s calming force. It helps you reduce anxiety and improves sleep. Norepinephrine is your alertness and energy, and we rely heavily on this neurotransmitter. It’s a neurotransmitter that is produced by the adrenal glands, and when it’s off, it controls some of that fight or flight response that we see epinephrine is another neuro adrenal transmitter that affects appetite and energy and focus. Now, these sound pretty important, right? So let’s take a look at what happens when these neurotransmitters are out of sync. When neurotransmitters are out of balance, the effects can ripple across the body. Low serotonin, for example, is often linked to depression and anxiety. A deficiency in dopamine may make you feel unmotivated or stuck in a mental fog. And GABA levels when they’re low, you can experience a heightened anxiety, or even insomnia and norepinephrine, too much can lead to high stress and panic, while too little can cause fatigue and brain fog. But what causes these imbalances to begin with? Well, it’s not just one thing, factors like stress, poor diet, inability to absorb nutrients from the gut, lack of sleep, toxins and even our genetics can influence how these neurotransmitters are produced and how the body uses them. Now, a stressful lifestyle, for example, can deplete serotonin and. Dopamine levels over time, as well as norepinephrine and epinephrine, making it harder to manage that stress effectively, chronic illnesses like thyroid disorders, adrenal insufficiency, autoimmune disease, these all impact our neurotransmitter production, and we all know about the chronic issues of gut health these days, often referred to as our second brain plays a huge role here too. Did you know that about 90% of the serotonin is made in your gut, and this is why gut health is so important and mental health is so deeply connected today, if you don’t have enough serotonin in your gut, you can’t utilize that in the brain, and it can’t make you stay asleep longer. It can’t make you feel good. And oftentimes, these antidepressants are reliant on the amount of serotonin we have in our body to work efficiently. So if you’re taking an antidepressant and it doesn’t feel like it’s working, it may simply be because you don’t have enough serotonin to begin with, and adding serotonin back in, and getting your gut to absorb these and create these neurotransmitters from our amino acids more efficiently, can actually make your antidepressants work more efficiently and be better for you. Now the good news is that we can optimize these neurotransmitters. We can take steps to balance our neurotransmitters naturally. Now let’s talk about a few ways that we can do that. Nutrition is key. It always is. It’s where we start in the world of keeping our bodies whole and balancing things properly. Your brain needs the right building blocks to create these neurotransmitters. So for example, foods high in tryptophan, like Turkey and nuts support serotonin production. Tyrosine rich foods like eggs and fish help boost dopamine and magnesium found in leafy greens and nuts are crucial for calming the nervous system. Quality sleep is essential for neurotransmitter balance, but it’s a double edged sword, because if you don’t have enough of certain neurotransmitters, you’re not going to sleep properly. For instance, if you’re deficient in serotonin, you need serotonin in the brain at its highest point in order to keep us in a nice, deep REM sleep. So without enough serotonin, you can have sleep disturbances. One of the ways that we determine if this is an issue is what time you wake at night. So typically, people who wake between one and three in the morning have a liver issue. Their liver is not clearing their toxins appropriately. However, people who wake between three and five have a serotonin issue, and that’s what’s causing their disruption of sleep and giving them more serotonin, especially at night, can keep them in that deeper sleep and make sleep quality improved. Now, certainly stress reduction, we all talk about that. It’s really important. Most of us are under a lot of stress, whether we feel it or not, so doing practices like meditation or mindfulness, or even spending time in nature, can lower the stress hormones and boost that calming neurotransmitter like GABA. Now GABA is known as nature Xanax, right along with L theanine. So if you’re struggling with anxiety and you’re taking medication and it’s not working. You really want to look at these neurotransmitters and see if you’re deficient in some of them. And they can actually help balance your neurotransmitters, raise up that GABA level, so that you’re not so anxious and not so nervous, and that way we may not have to use medications like Xanax in cases like this, I love a product called Gabi tracks, which you can find on our full script link for anxiety. It works very fast. It’s a chewable. I oftentimes recommend it to people who have trouble when they fly, because you can take two GABA tracks. They’re chewables. They taste great, and it just takes the edge off. It takes that calming, or gives you that calming, relaxed feeling. It takes the edge off without making you feel groggy. There’s no addiction to it. There’s no concern for overdosing on this product. It’s really a nice supplement. It’s just an amino acid, it works beautifully. Exercise is another really important thing. Regular movement increases dopamine and endorphins, and it helps you feel more energized and more motivated. We oftentimes find people who have problems with addiction, whether it’s gambling or. Sugar or alcohol or drugs have an imbalance in their dopamine, and if we can get their dopamine levels up, they’re not looking for those addictive hits anymore. And when people have addictions and they’ve been struggling in overusing alcohol or drugs or things like that, doing a neurotransmitter tests can be extremely

Dr. Deb 10:23effective in us finding the neurotransmitters that are out of balance. And then we can also look to see if there’s a genetic component that’s contributing to some of these issues as well. And you can actually test for these neurotransmitters. Neurotransmitters can be tested by blood or by urine. Now, from a functional medicine standpoint, they’re much better tested via urine because we’re seeing functional issues from a diagnostic disease issue. We want to look more at blood testing that gives us a different aspect of things. So using these tests appropriately can really help identify different medications that might be helpful, or different supplements that might be helpful for you. In some cases, we may supplement with amino acids like five HTP for serotonin, this is a precursor to serotonin, or L tyrosine for dopamine. These are very helpful in increasing these amino acids that make these neurotransmitters and can be used safely with medications, if you’re working with providers that really understand how to utilize these amino acids so that you don’t overdose on them, and then there’s some really exciting areas of research now in ...

Deb 1:12Thank you for tuning in. We hope you find this episode both insightful and thought provoking. Listener discretion is advised. Now for the show, Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness now. I’m your host, Dr, Deb, and I’m thrilled to have you here together. We’ll explore the cutting edge of health and wellness, uncovering powerful strategies to help you look, feel and live your best at any age,

Deb 1:35from alternative medicine to integrative therapies, functional nutrition to mind, body healing. We’re here to challenge the status quo and empower you with knowledge. As a nurse practitioner, naturopathic doctor, shaman and someone who’s walked the path of healing firsthand, I’m passionate about helping you thrive. So let’s dive in and discover the tools you need to unlock a vibrant, healthy life. This is your journey, and I’m honored to be your guide. Let’s talk wellness. Now today, we’re diving into a fascinating and critical topic about how symptoms in our bodies often serve as red flags for infections. Understanding these connections is essential for both timely diagnosis and effective treatment.

Deb 2:25Symptoms that our bodies show us in our ways of signaling something’s wrong, but often they can be misunderstood or misdiagnosed, and by connecting these dots, we can uncover hidden infections that are driving chronic health issues.

Deb 2:44You know, I’ve treated chronic illness now for over 20

Deb 2:49plus, maybe 25 years, close to that somewhere, and

Deb 2:55it always presents in very similar patterns of things, and unfortunately, what ends up happening are the symptoms that people go to their primary care doctors with often, I believe, overwhelms them. And we’re taught that if somebody has multiple symptoms to think about depression and anxiety versus thinking about an infection or something chronic in nature and in our naturopathic world, we’re taught that the body is a whole and as a whole, every symptom gives us another answer or another glimpse into exactly what’s happening. So symptoms of infection are quite common, right? We know fever, fatigue, pain or swelling, that these are not necessarily the problems themselves, but these are the things we pay attention to. And if you remember having the flu. We’ve all had that, right? You feel achy, you feel tired, you feel flu like this, what we call it. But what if you felt like that more times than not? What if your symptoms kind of ebbed and flowed? They were here for a couple of days, and then they were gone. They were here for a week or two, and they’re gone. And you’re trying to find that pattern that

Deb 4:30trigger, so to speak, that makes these symptoms present or makes them worse. And that’s where you become the medical detective. That’s where I’ve become the medical detective, and it’s learning to identify those symptoms between acute and chronic symptoms in nature. So acute symptoms tend to be fever, sore throat, rash,

Deb 4:56they’re usually linked to short term colds and.

Deb 5:00Lose. But you can have these symptoms as chronic things as well. Or, like I said before, they can come and go in patterns. Typically, when we see chronic symptoms, it’s chronic fatigue, fatigue that can be so debilitating that you can’t get out of bed. Or maybe it’s just fatigue. When you wake up in the morning and you don’t really feel rested, you don’t feel like you’ve slept, you’re not ready to hit the floor running and get going through the day like you used to. And then there’s brain fog, that fog over your head where you’re just not quite remembering things properly, or something that we call word finding. You can’t find the right word. You’re looking at an object, and you know what the name of the object is, but you can’t quite grasp the word for it, or you’re mixing up words. You’re calling a chair, a table and a table, a bench. You can’t find a person’s name like you used to we tend to think that’s common with age, but it’s really not. Or what about the joint pain or the muscle pain that comes and goes one minute, it’s your wrist or your finger, and it’s a knee, then it’s an ankle, then it’s my neck, then it’s my shoulder, then it’s my elbow. That type of migratory is what we call it, joint or muscle pain is not common. It’s not normal aging process. It’s a red flag for us and tells us that something’s going on. What about symptoms like numbness and tingling that come and go, or the feeling is, though something’s creeping and crawling inside of your body. We call that the circulations. These are all symptoms that are not normal symptoms as we age, chronic headaches where you feel like somebody’s just driving a stake or a spike in your head, the blurred vision that comes and goes, the floaters, those squiggly lines that happen inside of your eyes, or the eye pain, jaw pain,

Deb 7:17these are just some of the symptoms that we see with chronic illness. What about the bladder? Symptoms that happen, that urgency, that frequency, or that pain in the bladder, that burning in the bladder, or food sensitivities. One minute you can eat something like gluten, and the next day you can’t you’re feeling sick from it. Or one day you can have tomatoes, and the next time you have tomatoes, your joints are on fire. These are all signals of a bigger problem, a bigger thing. Now, oftentimes it is infection. It’s something like Epstein Barr or chronic strep, which gets now diagnosed as pans pandas. It could be Lyme disease or some other tick borne disease. And these are all symptoms of Long Haul COVID as well. These things that come in waves about every two weeks, you see a pattern arising. These are chronic symptoms, and their chronic illness, things and they really, truly debilitate people’s lives and keep them from working, keep them from doing the things that they absolutely love in life. Now, viral infections like Epstein Barr Virus can create a lot of these same type of symptoms, this chronic fatigue, the swollen lymph nodes that come and go, the low grade fever.

Deb 8:51These are very debilitating. Some of these conditions, like Epstein Barr and HHV six, which is a herpes family virus can actually lead to bigger problems, like autoimmune diseases, thyroid disease, diseases like Ms. The literature is very clear that these things play a role in autoimmune diseases, the HHV six and CMB. So HHV six is a herpes family virus and CMB is cytomegalovirus. These are definitely linked to neurological symptoms, chronic pain and even cognitive decline. HHV, six for years, has been known to be a culprit in fibromyalgia, that sore muscle achiness that just doesn’t want to leave the body. And unfortunately, we’ve kind of gotten away from looking at these viruses as being culprits for the symptoms that we have, and instead we’re looking at, how do we treat the symptoms, instead of, how do we get to the root cause of these symptoms? Now there’s other bacterial infection.

Deb 10:00As well. Lyme disease is one of them. I mentioned that a little bit earlier, this typically in an acute setting, will start like flu, like symptoms, joint pain, possibly a bullseye rash. But according to people like Dr Horowitz, we know that the bulls rash only appears in about 20% of the population of people, so that’s not always a telltale sign. Or if you get bit in an area where you wouldn’t necessarily see the bullseye rash like maybe on your head, it could also be missed. Now, some of these symptoms can evolve into neurological issues, numbness and tingling and even seizures. We see chronic pain is a very common one, and Lyme disease actually can mimic diseases like MS and other autoimmune diseases like lupus, and these symptoms can go on for decades, undiagnosed and untreated. And we have some other tick borne diseases as well, like Bartonella, which is commonly associated with psychiatric symptoms, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, there’s a common term that we use called Bart rage that will cause people to be totally normal one minute, and they go from zero to 100 in seconds, like they’re fine, they’re angry, and then they’re fine again. This is very common with a Bartonella infection, and then we have bacterial infections like chlamydia pneumonia that can directly affect the cardiovascular system and cause a lot of cardiovascular symptoms like syncope or blood pressure issues or pots uh, postural tachycardia orthostatic or sorry, Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. And this can be very debilitating for people, because their heart rate goes up very high, sometimes to as high as 180 or 190 and then comes back down right away. So these bacterial infections can be very devastating. When they’re not diagnosed and they don’t continue t...

Deb 1:19Hello and welcome to today’s episode estrogen and MS, how hormones impact neurological health and symptom management. I’m Dr Deb, and today we’re diving into a fascinating and complex topic, the link between hormones, specifically estrogen, and neurological health in women, particularly as it relates to MS or multiple sclerosis. Today, we’ll explore how declining estrogen levels in women may not only trigger ms, but also impact the severity and the progression of symptoms. Estrogen is more than just a reproductive hormone. It’s plays a crucial role in our immune system and the nervous system health. This intersection of hormones and neurological Health offers insights that may lead to improved management and treatments for women with Ms. So to provide some context, estrogen is a hormone that does more than govern reproductive functions. Research shows that estrogen plays a protective role in the brain, and it can reduce inflammatory responses, promote cell repair and support overall neurological function. It’s fascinating to consider estrogens far reaching impact on the nervous system, and as we’ll see, the effects are particularly relevant in the context of MS. MS is about three times more common in women than in men, and research suggests that hormonal fluctuations significantly influence both the risk and expression of MS symptoms. This gender difference points to hormones, and especially estrogen as an area worth closer examination. So let’s dive deeper into the science to understand why estrogen is such a significant factor in an in Ms. So estrogen as a neuro protector really well, it’s true, estrogen provides significant neuro protective benefits by modulating inflammation and oxidative stress in the brain, and studies have shown that estrogen can decrease levels of pro inflammatory cytokines while enhancing antioxidant defenses, creating a protective environment for neurons. Research has shown that women with higher estrogen levels tend to have lower markers of neuro inflammation, which is critical, because inflammation in the brain can lead to damage over time, and this protective effect of estrogen helps keep the brain in a healthier state, which is particularly beneficial for managing conditions like Ms. Now, estrogen has an impact that goes even further than that. It’s called myelin. So myelin is the protective sheath, or the coding around the nerves, and it’s essential for nerve communication, and estrogen plays a direct role in supporting this myelin repair. So let me explain a little bit more about myelin, because I think it’s important for us to understand if you think of your nerves as an electrical wire, we’ve all seen electrical wires that go behind the walls, right, and you pull out that wire, and if you’ve done any kind of remodeling, you may or may not have seen somebody strip away that plastic coating. Sometimes it’s yellow, sometimes it’s blue, and inside there are a couple of wires. Sometimes there’s one, sometimes there’s two, sometimes there are three, and. So think of that plastic coating as the myelin that protects your own nervous system. And what happens in MS and and sometimes other neurodegenerative diseases is that protective coating that myelin becomes disrupted or becomes damaged. And when it becomes damaged like that is when the nerves can be exposed, and when the nerves can be exposed, they can become irritated, and that’s kind of what we’re talking about with what happens on a very low scientific level with Ms. But I think everybody can understand when we’re talking about that what exactly is happening there? So estrogen, which is one of my favorite hormones, by the way, and I have been promoting hormones my entire career. I started learning about hormones when I was in my mid 20s. I worked for a reproductive endocrinologist, and became so in love with hormones, and so fascinated by them and what they can do and how they affect us. And I really believe that over the years, hormones, especially estrogen, have gotten a really horrible rap,

Deb 6:14and they didn’t need to be. So I’m a proponent of it. I do not like synthetic hormones. I really love bioidentical hormones, and you can find an episode here in the beginning of my series that goes back a couple of years, that talks about all the hormones and why I love them so much, and what’s the difference between bioidentical hormones and what’s the difference between synthetic hormones. It’s all there for you. So go back and check those out. But let’s get back to to the episode today. It’s so easy for me to get off on a tangent. I’m so sorry you guys. So estrogen stimulates the cells, and these are called oligodendrocytes, which are responsible for myelin production. Animal studies have actually shown that estrogen can increase myelin thickness and even support remyelination, a critical process for people with MS, where myelin damage is a core part of the disease, and this finding gives hope for ways to support or restore the nervous system’s function, actually in MS, and so there is a huge gender discrepancy between women who develop MS and men. It is something that affects women more commonly than men, and particularly during those reproductive years. This suggests to us that female hormones influence this disease and symptoms of MS often vary with hormonal changes such as puberty, pregnancy, menopause, leading further to the support of this idea that estrogen plays a significant role in how MS manifests and progresses. So hormonal decline can disrupt the immune system. We call it immune dysregulation. As estrogen declines during menopause, the immune system changes, and it becomes apparent. We all know that as we get older, our immune system doesn’t work as well. This is why everybody’s advertising to the elderly population to get your vaccines and to do this and to do that, there are much easier ways to stimulate the immune system than that, and I can talk about those in in a different series as well. But today I want to focus on how estrogen, the decline of estrogen, can actually lead to an immune dysregulation, increasing the risk of autoimmune activity, which can amplify MS symptoms. A study from the Journal of immunology found that postmenopausal women with MS tend to have higher levels of pro inflammatory markers, which can lead to worsening symptoms like fatigue, pain, cognitive difficulties. And this means that estrogen decline doesn’t only affect the body in general, but may also directly impact ms symptom intensity and estrogens anti inflammatory role. So estrogen naturally has an anti inflammatory property to it, and when estrogen levels drop, pro inflammatory cytokines rise, leading to increased brain inflammation, which may worsen cognitive issues and sensory disturbances in Ms. And research has published in neurology in 2020, found that women with MS who had lower estrogen levels, they showed higher inflammatory markers, correlating with more intense symptoms, and these patterns offer insight into why women may experience a surge in MS symptoms as estrogen declines. Now there’s also compelling evidence that Ms relapse rates increase during perimenopausal time, a time that marked is. Marked by fluctuating and declining estrogen levels. There was a review in the British Medical Journal that found that women in their perimenopausal age experienced a 30% increase in relapse rates, which researchers attribute largely to that estrogen drop. Now is there clinical evidence supporting hormonal replacement Yes, there is BHRT has a potential therapy in MS, and I believe other neurological diseases as well, hormone replacement therapy, or bioidentical hormone replacement therapy, has shown promise for alleviating some MS symptoms in menopausal women by stabilizing estrogen levels. So for some women, BHRT can improve symptoms like brain fog, fatigue, cognitive decline associated with Ms. And there’s another study published in Multiple Sclerosis journal that found that women receiving hormone replacement therapy reported better cognitive function, less fatigue than those who didn’t receive it. These findings offer hope for using hormone replacement therapy as a part of the MS treatment plan for women in menopause. So how does hormone replacement therapy actually work to help MS symptoms, while we know that hormones may reduce inflammation, protect the nerve cells from damage and even support myelin repair, and this combination of benefits means that women on hormone replacement therapy could experience fewer symptom flare ups and potentially a slower disease progression. In a small clinical trial published...

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09:52 What happens when your body adapts to chronic stress

12:36 Stress is so important to manage  and deal with

15:09 2 types of stressors: internal stressors and external stressors

17:38 Our thoughts are patterns

20:40 If you want to reduce the stress, you have to learn to let go

22:29 Before you respond, stop, take a breath and make a choice. 

25:22 The importance of putting some boundaries and taking some rest

30:00 Today, everybody expects you to respond instantaneously

35:49 When we have pain in our body, one of the key things that our body is doing is protecting us

36:50 If you’re in a constant state of inflammation, your body will not know what non-inflammation feels like

39: 22 Once you get out of pain, you’d never want to go back

42:17 Look around at the people you’re spending your time with and what you’re taking in

43:03 If you are holding on to anger, and resentment, and you’re not forgiving people, it affects you, it doesn’t affect them. 

43:51 Movement is important. It doesn’t have to be hard and difficult to be effective

46:22 It takes a village for us to be healthy too

48:59 Don’t let that crisis happen before you make a change because the truth is, sometimes when those things happen, they’re not reversible.

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I’m a Pain Reduction Coach, Fibromyalgia Warrior, Author, Speaker and Body-Positive Personal Trainer and I’m passionate about teaching people how to live pain-free and learn to love movement. I teach my clients to identify their triggers, reduce stress, set boundaries, and stop caring about what other people. They learn easy-to-implement strategies and tools focusing on mindset, movement and nutrition and can finally move easily throughout their day knowing their bodies will cooperate with them. 

I had a 16-year teaching career and the high stress level put me in bed for 4-months with stress-induced vision loss which made me readjust how I defined “living” and make serious changes to my lifestyle. I don’t want anyone else to succumb to the stress demon and am on a mission to help people effectively manage stress and learn to love moving their bodies in whatever way makes them happy. All of the challenges I have faced has made me realize that self love and body acceptance is key to thriving.

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08:28 How PTSD is affecting our veterans.

12:00 Why does abuse and trauma keep on coming back?

14:23 The abuse that is happening on social media.

15:34 How do we maneuver mental health and socialization together?

18:53 Overview of Faust books. 

20:08 Few tips on how to deal with anxiety.

22:40 Why you need to get away from social media.

24:30 Drug companies are not selling the drug, they’re selling you a drug culture.

28:43 Side effects of medication.

33:43 How we’ve lost all the tools that we had before.

34:22 We need a process for our life too. 

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Faust A. Ruggiero’s professional career spans almost 40 years. He has consistently established cutting-edge counseling programs in pursuit of professional excellence and personal life enhancement. He is a published research author, clinical trainer and a therapist who has worked in settings that have included clinics for abused women, prisons, nursing homes, substance abuse centers, businesses and major corporations, and inpatient facilities. He continues to provide counseling services for veterans, first responders, law enforcement and other emergency personnel, and businesses and corporations, nationally, and internationally. During his tenure as the President of the Community Psychological Center in Bangor, Pennsylvania, he developed the Process Way of Life counseling program, and has adapted it into the formal text presented in The Fix Yourself Handbook. The Fix Yourself Handbook has received the Gold Award from Literary Titan, the Silver Award from The Nonfiction Authors Association, and the Bronze Award from Reader’s Favorite. It is available in paperback, as an e- Book, and an audio book. 

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06:53 The biggest reason that’s getting in the way of people eating healthy these days.

07:30 Why does diet soda cause weight gain?

08:11 Our bodies are 60 to 70% water – Drink more pure water and stay hydrated.

09:53 Direct correlation between being dehydrated and being overweight.

10:51 How we’re setting up our kids to have adult-stage diseases when they’re children.

11:47 Type two diabetes is preventable and reversible.

16:53 The problem with advertising and commercials for medications.

19:07 The nine golden rules for weight loss

26:18 Diet is like a sprint, but lifestyle is a marathon that should be done consistently. We didn’t gain weight overnight, we’re not going to lose it overnight. 

31:08 Form habits that you like, that you enjoy and that will work for you, because we’re all different. 

34:05 Unhealthy foods are scientifically engineered to make it addictive – Don’t start or it will make it hard for you to stop.

35:47 Breaking the chains of dieting – Don’t go on a diet, just change your lifestyle.

37:32 How David prepared himself for climbing Mount Kilimanjaro.

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David Medansky, known as The Diet Contrarian, was born, and raised in Chicago, IL and now resides in Phoenix, AZ with his beautiful wife Debra of 7 years. He graduated with a bachelor’s degree from the University of South Florida and has a Juris Doctorate from the University of Arizona Law School. David practiced Law for thirteen years and retired in 2005. David is an international best-selling author of ‘Discover Your Thinner Self’, ‘If Not Now When?’, ‘Break the Chains of Dieting’ and many more. 

At age 61, David was obese and told by his doctor that he had a 95% chance for a fatal heart attack. David’s doctor told him to find a new doctor because he did not believe David could lose weight and he did not want him dying on his watch. That was the pivotal point, where David realized the severity of his condition and decided to find a way to lose the weight and keep it off. During the next four months David was able to shed 50 pounds, which was 25% of his total body weight. 

David spent his legal career seeing both sides of the fence. Honest people and dishonest people. And during his weight loss journey he realized that when it comes to the food and weight loss industries, sadly there are more dishonest people than there are those telling the truth. That’s what makes losing weight so difficult. David learned 9 Golden Rules to reduce weight without going on a diet, counting calories, or exercising and is on a mission to share this message with the world. At age 67, David hiked up Mt. Kilimanjaro. 

David Medansky now travels the world both to Live and Virtual events helping men and women understand the deception of the weight-loss industry and promoting the value of being healthy and having a healthy lifestyle

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06:31 Fad diet versus flexible diet.

10:14 The importance of tracking your nutrition.

11:09 Food is your fuel.

13:30 We don’t realize how bad we feel until we start getting the proper nutrition. 

14:27 Our bodies change as we get older, and we need to change with that.

15:12 The concept of Energy Flux.

17:17 The components of high-level metabolism.

20:12 Can we turn the fat we have in our body into muscle?

22:38 If your body composition is perfect, you have too reason to worry about what the scale says. 

24:49 How to manage your hunger when you’re going through a changing diet, and you’re exercising more.

27:16 What does being healthy means for Philip.

29:58 Of all the fitness attributes, strength is the foundation to everything. 

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Philip Pape is a Certified Nutrition Coach, Body Composition Expert, and host of the Wits & Weights podcast. Through his personal transformation to become the strongest, leanest, and healthiest version of himself, Philip learned the effectiveness of using evidence-based nutrition and strength training to optimize body composition. 

Philip’s approach emphasizes sustainability and self-mastery of both body and mind to upgrade and optimize your health even with a demanding lifestyle. He helps high-achieving people use their wits to build their best body, reclaim their time, and become their most capable, confident selves in the gym and in life so they can show up and make an impact.

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07:21 Getting to know more about Dr. Maull.

11:58 How getting into federal prison became Dr. Maull’s huge wake-up call. 

14:06 Seeing the tremendous suffering in the maximum security federal prison hospital, Dr. Maul realized he was there for a reason.

16:27 While in prison, Dr. Maul was involved in deep spiritual practice and service work.

18:55 How embracing radical responsibility and ownership for his circumstances brings positivity to Dr. Maul’s life in prison.

22:20 Learning to navigate human relationships in a negative and dangerous environment.

24:10 The importance of acceptance and taking ownership for self-regulation when struggling with negativities and difficulties.

29:57 We need to train ourselves to sharpen life in a way that’s going to be beneficial for ourselves and others.

34:29 Embrace everything in our life. We don’t need to reject anything in our experience or any part of ourselves, it’s our treasure.

36:56 Dr. Maul wants the people he’s working with to get the 2 principal things.

42:49 Mindfulness is a human trait, and we can increase our default level of mindfulness.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Fleet Maull, PhD and author, is a renowned growth mindset teacher who delivers his training programs and seminars around the world both in-person and online through Heart Mind Institute. He’s a meditation teacher, executive coach, seminar leader, social entrepreneur who works at the intersection of personal and social transformation.

Fleet founded the Prison Mindfulness Institute and National Prison Hospice Association, catalyzing two national movements, while serving a 14-year mandatory-minimum federal drug sentence, 1985 to 1999. Dr. Maull developed the Radical Responsibility empowerment model that embraces 100 percent ownership for each and every circumstance we face, free of blaming oneself or others. 

Fleet is a Roshi (Zen master) in the international Zen Peacemaker Order and Acharya (senior Dharma teacher) in the global Shambhala meditation community. He is the author of Radical Responsibility: How to Move Beyond Blame, Fearlessly Live our Higher Purpose and Become an Unstoppable Force for Good in the World.

Social Media & Website: Radical Responsibility Book: www.radicalresponsibilitybook.com

Fleet’s main website: www.fleetmaull.com

Heart Mind Institute (Fleet’s courses): www.heartmind.co

Neuro-Somatic Mindfulness course: https://www.heartmind.co/nsmfoundation

Prison Mindfulness Institute (mindfulness for prisoners): www.prisonmindfulness.org

Center for Mindfulness in Public Safety (mindfulness for correctionals officers & police): www.mindfulpublicsafety.org

Engaged Mindfulness Institute (trauma-informed mindfulness teacher training): www.engagedmindfulness.org

National Prison Hospice Association (hospice care for prisoners) www.npha.org

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Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/fleetmaullTwitter Handle https://twitter.com/fleetmaull?lang=en

Do not miss these highlights:

01:41 Why do many women put aside self-care?

07:51 It will be a game changer if we can influence the West through Eastern wisdom.

08:18 Dr. Gupta’s journey to healing.

13:42 Always remind yourself of self-love and self-care – it needs to be ingrained in you.

14:51 Have those conversations with your body – know what motivates you to achieve your goal.

17:15 How you can make those daily self-care rituals a rhythm.

20:24 Our job is to live a life of moderation, balance, beauty and joy. 

21:23 The story about how Dr. Gupta realized that all of the world’s problems could be solved in a garden.

24:33 The process and struggles of Dr. Gupta on launching her supplement products. 

31:53 Do your annual blood work to understand where your body’s at, and listen to the signals of your body.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

As a busy wife and mother of two, I understand the challenges modern women face when it comes to putting their health and wellbeing first. Unfortunately for many women self-care has become a dirty word and yet another unrealistic expectation on our never-ending to-do list.

I created my revolutionary Modern Ayurveda program and Fusionary Formulas to fuse east and west practices for self-care, digestion, stress reduction and metabolism. My goal is to ensure no more women sacrifice their health for the life they deserve. 

Success and self-care go hand in hand. The more you care for yourself, the happier you will be and less likely to reach for things that aren’t good for you. Self-care doesn’t need to be one more thing you add to your to-do list. Finding a few extra minutes each day can have a profound impact on health.

I am dedicated to sharing the healing properties of Ayurveda and bridging the gap between our hectic modern lives and applications of conscious living. As a renowned Ayuvedic leader my speaking topics range from organic pregnancy to the influence of Ayurveda on western medicine. My previous speaking engagements include over 50 physician conferences, educational events and women’s symposiums across the U.S.

https://shivanigupta.com/home-backup/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shivaniguptafl/

https://www.instagram.com/dr.shivanigupta/?hl=en

Do not miss these highlights:

06:03 How technology helped Stephen’s daughter and grandsons get better from Lyme disease.

15:42 Upon testing people from California and the Bay Area, it came out that over 90% of the people with Lyme also had mold. 

17:20 How these frequencies get into the body and support the body in dealing with symptoms.

20:27 The difference between wearable WAVE 1 frequency to other frequency technologies.

26:06 Stephen’s team is currently doing a trial in changing the program to make it easier and accessible to people.

28:58 The device is as small as the size of a small cell phone, making it easy for people to do their normal daily tasks while wearing it.

31:30 Why there are people out there saying that it didn’t work for them. 

33:38 The future of Wave 1 in the world of Lyme and in the other diseases that go along with it.

37:03 Getting to know their two amazing technologies – Wave 1 and Nikki. 

43:19 Today, it’s not working the same way, we need to start thinking outside the box to heal. 

46:24 How Nikki works with Stephen’s grandson in overcoming stress and anxiety

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Stephen Davis is a serial entrepreneur, venture capitalist, seasoned inventor & a healthcare pioneer with over 35 years in the global business economy. He has a deep passion for and involvement in mission-driven companies and organizations that seek to promote social good and greater access for all. As a pioneer in health & wellness, he has co-developed a cutting-edge proprietary device, waveforce ONE, that utilizes frequency emission technology to temper and – in some cases – completely eliminate the symptoms of chronic Lyme disease and other debilitating ailments. This is a product Mr. Davis feels uniquely tethered to as the conception of the waveforce ONE stemmed from his own personal struggles with chronic Lyme disease having witnessed it upend the lives of his daughter and two grandsons. Beyond the overall hopelessness, the immense financial strain of sustaining the costly medications and treatments prompted Davis to seek out alternatives. Fortuitously, he connected with Stuart Gross who would introduce him to the groundbreaking frequency emission technology that would ultimately stave off the symptoms of his daughter and grandsons, as well as lay the foundation for the revolutionary and affordable waveforce ONE wearable device. 

FREmedica – WAVE 1 Lyme Disease Frequency Software

Do not miss these highlights:

08:10 The two main categories of stress in simple form: Eustress and Distress.

09:07 The certain things about stress we can avoid – transforming from Distress into Eustress.

11:54 The reasons why mental health issues are skyrocketing in the last 2 to 3 years.

14:04 We have to set limits and unplug. So much information at one time will be a burden to the brain, resulting in restlessness, irritability and anxiousness. 

16:44 Why most of the modalities we have in medicine today to help people with depression and anxiety, don’t seem like they’re working.

19:15 Source of Healing comes from within us.

21:21 If you just rely on the medicine alone, taking it as a shortcut, you won’t get better.

22:16 Understanding wearable technologies: Gen1 Wearables versus Gen2 Wearable versus Gen3 Wearables. 

31:33 How Psychedelic Medicine works – Bringing people out of their chronic depression and anxiety in a different fashion than what we’re used to seeing in mental health today.

38:07 With how far technology has come and how far we’ve come with an understanding of how to safely use psychedelic medicines to heal people,  we now have the ability to get very significant response rates.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Dave Rabin MD, PhD is a board-certified psychiatrist, neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and inventor who has studied resilience and the impact of chronic stress on our lives for over 15 years. Dr. Rabin and his team collaborate with clients at the Apollo Clinic, empowering clients to take control of their mental and physical health by tapping into our abilities to adapt and heal ourselves. In addition to focusing on integration therapy, plant and natural medicines, couples therapy, and medicine-assisted psychotherapy, Dr. Rabin specializes in treatment-resistant mental illnesses including depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), psychosomatic disorders, personality disorders, chronic pain disorders, insomnia, and substance use disorders using minimal and non-invasive treatment strategies.

David Rabin MD, PhD (drdave.io)

Do not miss these highlights:

00:37 How John got into spiritual transformation.

06:42  Sometimes you don’t know what you don’t know, but who knows what tomorrow will bring, there’s a Divine timing.

08:32 The dreams that are trying to show John what a black-and-white view of life is really like.

10:15 what happened over the last 20 years is a complete embrace of my feminine side

10:32 Balancing your masculine and feminine side –  understanding the value in the masculine and the value in the feminine.

12:26 Is being more masculine or feminine is something that we’re born navigating to or something that we’ve learned as a defence mechanism?

14:22 Navigating and balancing the feminine and masculine in your business success.

16:51 Not every person can wear all the hats in an organization – know your strengths, your weaknesses and surround yourself with people that keep that balanced throughout.

17:35 How John’s transition has changed or transformed his world for better or worse. 

23:30 What was it like to go from being this masculine, highly structured CEO to a more feminine approach in life.

28:15 Listen, somebody needs to be heard. 

30:04 Overcoming the fear of death.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

John David Latta is a mystic, author, teacher, and former founder and CEO of a multimillion-dollar consumer products company. He shares intimate and personal stories and teaches workshops on leadership, healing, transformation, awakening, love, synchronicity, and wisdom that unite and expand human experience. He lives with his wife, Wendy, in Redmond, Washington 

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Do not miss these highlights:

05:15 Ricky’s experience with a midwife who had double the experience of the doctor.

12:14 How Ricky and his wife cope with her postpartum depression.

14:09 How Dr. Jones helped Ricky’s wife recover.

18:09 How having low testosterone affected Ricky’s life

19:37 Ricky’s mission of creating a clinic,  an environment where they attracted doctors who want to make a difference

21:22 Insurance is a business, it’s limiting people’s belief of what’s possible.

28:48 It is unfortunate how doctors get hung up on this protocol insurance – Our healthcare system is a business.

33:27 The Hippocratic Oath

37:37 Natural hormone versus synthetic or bioidentical hormone.

39:30 Hormones control other hormones in the body. Right hormone balance will extend your life and the quality of your life .

50:13 Calling them patients versus calling them a client.

51:33 Why women need testosterone.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Ricky Brandon is a health and wellness advocate. He and his wife Candy started Hormone Balance Centers because they could not find the high level of care they desired for their own family. After years of searching, thousands of hours in training, research, and trial, and error, he has finally landed on the process and system that mixes traditional medicine with alternative medicine and helps people feel great again and live younger and longer with natural hormone replacement therapy.

Website: https://www.hormonebalancecenters.com

Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/Hormone-Balance-Centers-103144779026810

Transcript of Episode 193

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have with me today, Ricky Brandon. Ricky is a Health and Wellness Advocate. He and his wife, Cindy started hormone balance centers because they could not find the level of care they desired for their own family. And after years of searching 1000s of hours in training, research, trial and error, he has finally landed on a process and a system that mixes traditional medicine with alternative medicine, and helps people feel great again and live longer with natural hormone therapy. So I want to talk to Ricky today because you guys know that I am an advocate for bio identical hormones. And I have been for a very, very long time. I’ve been in this industry 25 years, I’ve used and prescribed bioidentical hormones for that entire time. My love started out in fertility work. And so understanding hormones has been such a gift for me. And helping women look and feel their best has made such a huge difference in my life and the lives of so many people that I work with. And I’m so blessed to have this background and this knowledge. So being able to talk to Ricky today about what they’ve found in the bio identical hormone world. And coming from an advocate perspective, I think is amazing. Because, you know, this is the biggest thing is we have to learn to advocate for ourselves for our own health and well being. And for all of the things that we want in our lives and all of the things that we want our life to be, whether it’s health, whether it’s work life balance, whether it’s finances, whatever that is, that’s where we want that to be. So I’m going to bring Ricky on we’re going to have this conversation without any further ado, let’s get started chatting with him. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head, or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health, tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold, toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care. center.com. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m so glad to have my guest here with me today. And as you guys know, we talked briefly before we brought him on. We’re going to talk all things hormones, which is one of my favorite topics. So welcome to the show.

Ricky Brandon 3:57Awesome. I’m so excited to be here. And I can’t wait. I can’t wait to have this conversation with you because I love it.

Debra Muth 4:03I do too. I love it. And I love what you guys are doing and what your mission stands for and why you’re doing the things that you’re doing. So, Ricky, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started and your journey.

Ricky Brandon 4:19Yeah, so by by trade actually long time ago, I’ll call it my past life, not a literal past life. But the other life I lived I was in the entertainment industry. And I worked for magicians in Las Vegas and it was exciting and all of that. And then I met my wife and we got married and we had our first kid. And while we were having our first kid his name’s Carter, he’s now 16 We we were on the fence of what to do right I kind of dabbled in hormone on not hormones but in natural medicine and herbs and I had lots of friends in the herbal and industry. And, and I had heard that midwives give great care, this is a little different story than the one you’ve read, I’m giving you a little more because I feel prompted to. So I’m gonna do that so. And so we’re about to have our first kid and my wife was worried because she had had back surgery in a snowboarding accident. And she was, she was told that when she had back surgery that she would never carry a child fault, or that she would be on bed rest and all of this stuff. She was also told that her back would have to be fused within five years. And it never was, she just, she just did everything she was supposed to do and took good care of herself. And she never had to have a fuse. Now it’s been 20 something years since then. And she’s still going strong. And we’ve had four kids. But this this first story, right? We’re going to the doctor, the regular doctor, and I’m not anti doctor, so please, nobody get that idea. As I tell these stories doctors save lives. And they’ve saved one of my child’s lives. And so, but we’re going to I heard you get great prenatal care from a midwife. So our plan was go to the midwife for prenatal care, and deliver in the hospital with a doctor, because my wife was scared to have her first baby because of her back. And as we’re going along, I am asking questions, right? Both of us are asking questions. And we go to the doctor, we ask a question. And he would say something like that. Don’t worry about it. That’s my job. And we go away with all this doubt and anxiety, right? Then we’d go to the midwife a couple days later, and I’d ask the same question. And she would take 40 minutes, and teach us. And all of a sudden, our anxiety and fear would go away. Yeah. And the longer we went on, I’m like, Man, the doctor just kind of dismisses us. And the midwife empowers us. And as we got closer, I said to my wife, you know, we asked the midwife Do you think? Do you think she could deliver her baby at home? Do you think we could do that? And she says, Well, yeah. And what about her back? She goes, No problem. And then then we asked how many babies she had delivered. And we asked the doctor, how many babies he had delivered. And the midwife had like, double, double the experience of the doctor. Wow. And then we’re talking to her and she goes, she says that it was awesome. She goes, Look, kids, and she has an older lady, she goes, Look, kids, I, if I lose a baby, I don’t work anymore. If the doctor loses a baby, he has a an insurance claim. And maybe some discomfort going to court or something like that. She goes, I care about you. I’m not anti Doctor, I’m going to be the first one to call a doctor, if we’re in trouble. She goes, but if everything’s going fine, your body was made to deliver babies. And she taught me all of this stuff about about why doctors induce and about how they, what the what the water sack does and why it’s there. And, and all of this stuff. So I found myself the reason the entertainment part is important. All these girls, the showgirls who I worked around, some of them were having their first babies. And within, I don’t know, I would come to work and I would talk about all this stuff that I was learning. And I would have ...

Do not miss these highlights:

01:56 What is Ivermectin and how has it been used?

03:26 Antibacterial or Anti Parasitical actually have Antiviral properties to them. 

05:49 The history of plant medicine has been available to us for 1000s of years. 

07:13 A plant comes with different chemical compounds, when you manipulate it and remove one active compound,  it’s no longer intact, and we can have more side effects.

08:57 Several other recent plant-derived chemicals or compounds have undergone development and have been marketed as drugs.

10:56 Few examples of drugs that have been created by nature over the last several decades. 

13:08 Having an understanding of which plant to use is vital to the treatment of disease and accessing really high-quality plants and good manufacture and storage is critical.

17:46 Echinacea – What it treats and how to find a good quality of it.

20:54 Ginseng and its several varieties.

23:20 Ginkgo Biloba has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for 1000s of years and remains a top-selling herbal supplement today.

25:23 Elderberry & St. John’s Wort – What it treats and its safety uses.

27:53 Turmeric, Ginger, Valerian & Chamomile – What it treats and its safety uses.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

Transcript of Episode 188

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today we’re going to talk about essential medicines that come from flowering plants. Did you know that 11% of the WHO List of 252 essential medicines were from flowering plants, professor, Dr. City, and I’m going to not say this name properly Vera Sham, wrote in a 2012 paper nature, the master craftsman created almost an index array of molecular entities. It is an infinite resource for drug development, novel chemo types and pharmacophores that can create efficacious drugs for many diseases and other bio active agents. I think this is really interesting, because you know, we’ve been talking about plant based medicines for 1000s of years. In the alternative world, we use a lot of plants to treat different conditions. And we now finally have somebody saying, look, the majority of our plants have come or the the majority of medicines have come from plants for a very long time. And they’re very useful. And they’re admitting that these things have power, and they can actually do things. Now unfortunately, they will say that they need to be manipulated in order to be effective, but that’s not the case. So let’s go on and talk a little bit more about this study that was produced. Dr. O’Meara spent most of his career scouring nature for useful molecules. ivermectin was just one of the many drugs he actually discovered. It was used to treat river blindness, elephantitis, and flavor viruses along with tick borne encephalitis, dengue fever, a lot of different things. Now, I’ve been treating tick borne diseases. for about 18 years now. ivermectin has been one of the medications that we have used for a very long time in treating tick borne illnesses, using it very safely, very effectively, with very minimal complications from it. So this is really interesting to read some of his research as it’s come out. It’s also been demonstrated to be a broad spectrum inhibitor against several RNA viruses by blocking viral proteins. It’s also been shown to have a potent antiviral action against HIV one. Yes, honestly, HIV, this is not in the mainstream. Now, this is a study that goes back to 2012. And we can assume that he is known about this much longer than that. And I remember many years ago, and you’ve those of you who listen to me, you’ve heard me say this before. There’s many things that we’ve used that we didn’t understand were antiviral until the whole COVID flare up. And now we’re starting to realize that a lot of the drugs that we thought were antibacterial or anti parasitical, actually have antiviral properties to them. And that’s why when we treat patients with ivermectin and doxycycline, and is that through myosin and some of these other meds for different conditions, they don’t get typical flu viruses or they don’t get typical colds because they have that antiviral component to them.

3:54So ivermectin is very inexpensive and with a top safety profile obtained from ready for this one guys. 250 million doses given annually for decades, yes, 250 million doses, given annually for decades. And this is why Monash decided to investigate it for the possibility against COVID. And until recently, plants were an important source of novel pharmacological activity, compounds with many blockbuster drugs, being derived directly or indirectly from plants. And despite the current preoccupation with synthetic chemistry as a vehicle to discover and manufacture drugs, the contribution of plants to disease treatment and prevention is still enormous. Even at the dawn of the 21st century. 11% of the 252 essential drugs on the WH o database come from plants. This is a really big because when we talk about plants being our medicine or food being medicine, this is actually true in the conventional world, it’s just that the majority of the practitioners prescribing these drugs do not realize that they came from plant sources to begin with. It’s just very simple that way. Now, up to 50% of the approved drugs during the last 30 years are from either directly or indirectly from natural products and in an area of cancer over the timeframe from about the 1940s to date of the 175 small molecules 85 actually being either natural products or directly derived from a natural plant or product. You know, the history of plant medicine has been available to us for 1000s of years. The plant derived compounds have a long history of clinical use, better patient tolerance and acceptance. And to date 35,000 to 70,000 different plant species have been screened for medicinal use. This is a lot of plants, and a lot of plants that could turn into potential drugs down the road. Now we want to remember that a natural substance cannot be patented. So if it cannot be patented, how do we get it to be a drug? Well, let’s talk about that a little bit. So there’s a study thumb from fabricant and Farnsworth from 2001. And they reported that 80% of 122, plant derived drugs were related to their original ethnopharmacological purposes. And current practices for creating medicines for plants work by isolating a specific molecule. This is how they’re allowed to patent it, they can isolate a particular molecule inside the plant, extract that out and say, This is the active ingredient, this is what’s actually working. Now, we all know

7:10that that’s not true. When you have a plant, a plant comes with a lot of different properties, and a lot of different chemical compounds. They were derived in nature to work a very specific way, when you manipulate that, and you remove one active compound from it and say, here’s the saving grace, here’s the here’s the ingredient that works, but the rest of the plant doesn’t really matter. God doesn’t work that way, right, he creates everything for a reason. And so that’s why when we extract things out, we can have more side effects, we can have more complications, we can have new diseases occur, because we thought we were smarter than God, and that plant has a complete compound in itself intact. But when we manipulate that it’s no longer intact. Many of our cancer drugs have been derived from plant based substances using this very specific process. Now, the first pure, commercially made drug from plants now pure meaning in its whole form, nothing manipulated, was actually morphine. And that was created back in 1826. The next semi synthetic drug was produced by bear and that was aspirin in 1899. And we say it’s a semi synthetic drug because it’s not completely taken from its whole, it’s been manipulated. Now, these drugs actually lead to other compounds from nature being isolated and created into early drugs such as cocaine, codeine, digitoxin, quinine, and pilocarpine. And which some are still in use today. And several other recent plant derived chemicals or compounds have undergone development and have been marketed as drugs, which include perhaps the tussle and taxes for lung and ovarian as well as breast cancer Artemesia, which is from a traditional Chinese plant Artemi Xion or Artemesia, you’ll call them two different things are used to combat multi drug resistant malaria, and you can buy artemisia or Artemisian as a whole plant instead of taking it as a commercially available drug. silymarin, which is also known as known as milk thistle in our world was extracted from the seeds of Silybum and for the treatment of liver diseases, so we will often use milk thistle or silly margarine to help clear toxins from the liver to help get rid of excess hormones from the liver. If somebody’s liver is struggling to clear toxins, we will give them silymarin or milk thistle as well. You can also use this to help you sleep. A lot of times when people wake in the middle of the night between one and three o’clock, it’s because their liver is dumping toxins. And when it does that, it can struggle sometimes. And so if you take silymarin or milk thistle at night before you go to bed, becau...

Genetic makeup can also determine what disease we are predisposed to BUT NOT destined to get. We can change the outcome if we understand epigenetics.

Annie Bush and Dr. Deb share a conversation about biohacking your genes using safe and effective lifestyle changes. But first you must know your genetic make up and then you can hack it. 

Do not miss these highlights:

• use your genetics to develop that optimal health program for you specifically
• it is your environment, the foods you eat, the things you drink, the toxins that you’re exposed to, that determines which genes get switched on and which ones stay switched off.
• Annie’s personal story of how she went from the legal world to health and wellness and to cognitive decline 
• Younger cases of cognitive decline are due to a toxic root case
• People don’t understand about things like mold and heavy metals. Unless you affirmatively detox that mold out of you, it stays in your body
• The importance of genetics and how it should just be your blueprint for life.
• The effect how quick or how slowly metabolizing caffeine will have on a person
• Difference between 23andMe and 3×4 genetics
• When you’re having trouble with that conversion you can take exogenous ketones, which means outside the body in a drink, like in a powder that is already been converted is already in that beta hydroxy butyrate form.
• Stem cells activation technology patches

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

After spending over 10 years as a Federal and State Prosecutor, Annie Bush changed her focus to health and wellness education, and connecting the physical body with the spiritual mind. Over the last decade, her mantra has been, “It’s hard to have a clear thought with a toxic body.” As a nationally-recognized Certified Brain Health Coach under both Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Dale Bredesen, she helps clear the physical brain of cognitive conditions such as ADD, Anxiety, Depression, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Dementia, and customizes holistic protocols addressing these conditions. Using 3X4 Genetics, she utilizes your own DNA as your blueprint to drive your lifestyle choices regarding exercise, nutrition, sleep patterns, etc. for your optimal health. She uses photobiomodulation to stimulate the production of your own stem cells using the Lifewave stem cell activation patches.

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Transcript for episode #177:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb, and today we’re going to talk about biohacking someone’s DNA to heal things like add anxiety, depression, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s, dementia, and so much more. My guest, Annie Bush, is here to talk about the brightest thin protocol and actually using someone’s DNA to heal the body to create that blueprint blueprint for lifestyle changes and choices, exercise, nutrition, sleep patterns, you name it, we can use your genetics to develop that optimal health program for you specifically, she’s also going to chat with us about using photo immune modulation to stimulate the production of one’s own stem cells to heal the body. Now, interestingly enough, Annie has not always been in health care. for over 10 years, she worked as a federal and state prosecutor. And she changed her focus to health and wellness education, learning how to connect the physical body with the spiritual mind. And I’m interested to hear all about how that actually happened. One of Annie’s mantras over the last decade has been, it’s hard to have a clear thought with a toxic body. So let’s learn how the body becomes toxic. Let’s ask Annie, how do we get to a clean body so we’re not toxic anymore? And then last, but not least, how do we take those genetics and really utilize them for an individualized approach to help heal not just your brain, but your mind, body and spirit all together as one?

Debra Muth 2:09Have you seen 20+ medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head? Or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenityhealthcarecenter.com.

Debra Muth 3:19Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I have Annie Bush with me today. And I’m excited to talk to her all about genetics and Dr. Bredesen, Dr. Ayman protocols, and how are we going to biohack our way into being healthier longer, you know, avoiding those neurological things. But if we also have anxiety, ATD, ADHD, some of those kinds of things, this technology and this protocol can also work for those types of illnesses as well. So Annie, welcome back to the show.

Annie Bush 3:56Well, thank you, Dr. Deb, I’m so happy to be here. And you know, so much ground to cover, but eloquently it’s all connected.

Debra Muth 4:04It is, it’s so amazing. When I started studying genetics, about 15 years ago, I was blown away how people could have such different genetics, even within families, right, like parent, I’ll tell a story in a little bit. But you know, even parents and kids can be so different and present so differently. Even if they have similar patterns. Everybody seems to present a little bit differently with that.

Annie Bush 4:29And that has to do with their epigenetics because it is your environment, the foods you eat, the things you drink, the toxins that you’re exposed to, that determines which ones those genes get switched on and which ones stay switched off.

Debra Muth 4:47It’s so amazing, and we don’t think about it that way at all. Any tell us a little bit about yourself before we dig into the nitty gritty of genetics.

Annie Bush 4:57Well, by the time you get to be about our age, you’ve been through a few career changes, as if you were to you know what I always say every hole every career you’ve had, just adds to your skill set. And I started out in a legal path, I was a journalism major in college, went straight into being a legal clerk, that a paralegal, and then I ultimately became a prosecutor from the Department of Interior in the National Park Service. So I went into a legal track, went to law school. And the one thing that law school teaches you is how to read a lot of information, remember a lot of information and then how to apply it. So with that skill set, and then I became an assistant state attorney here in the state of Florida for six years. And then the term came in most of us in the wealth, health and wellness space. You know, we get here through either our personal journey, that something happened or through family members, and it was my parents. They both got cancer first, my dad got cancer, and then he passed and then my mom got cancer. And I moved in with her and I was taking her to her chemo treatments. And I saw how the traditional medical industry was treating her or not, yeah. What what was happening is I would take her over to her chemo, which for anybody who has ever never experienced that she basically went to go to a hospital setting, they have Lazy Boy chairs, and they hook you up on these IVs these PICC lines well, right next to where they had her seated. He had cookies and candy and cupcakes and all this sugar. And I didn’t know a lot then. But I knew that sugar fed cancer. So I went from being really confused as to why they’re feeding reverse chemo to kill the cancer giving her sugar at the same time to being really angry. And then I decided, okay, I wanted to do something about it. And that’s when I made the switch from being an illegal career to in health and wellness, I became a personal trainer, a health coach. And then I saw my personal training clients, with their parents suffering from cognitive decline, and how they were being treated or not treated by the traditional medical industry at all, you know, that’s what I made that turn into being really concentrating on cognitive decline and how that happens and what we can do to stop it and reverse it.

Debra Muth 7:43Such a big problem right now. I mean, it’s not just your 70 and 80 year olds that are having issues with cognitive decline. It’s our 30 and 40 year olds, now I see it every day ...

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39:59 One of the big NOs and one of the worst EMF exposure is having something like electronics that’s right on your body.

41:40 Things or gadgets that could help block or lessen EMFs exposure

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About our Guest:

Peter Sullivan is the founder and CEO of Clear Light Ventures, Inc., as well as an environmental health funder who focuses on toxins and wireless safety. He has spent the last 17 years focusing on environmental health. Peter’s work on detoxification and EMF (electromagnetic fields) have been featured in the book Toxin Toxout, Mother Jones magazine, Paleo Magazine, and CNN’s Morgan Spurlock: Inside Man. He is an executive producer of the documentary “Generation Zapped”, about the health effects of wireless, and co-executive producer of the film “The Devil We Know” about Teflon pollution. Peter serves as a board advisor to Pure Earth (pollution.org), and the International Institute for Building-Biology Ecology. Previously, he worked as a software designer, making software easier to use at Netflix, Inc., Interwoven, Inc., Excite@Home, and Silicon Graphics. He also served as an Executive Officer and pilot in the United States Navy. He has a B.A. in psychology from the University of Detroit and an M.S. in computer science from Stanford University

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About our Guest:

Some may call him a mad scientist but don’t let the lab coat fool you! Chris Burres is the owner of SES Research, the first company to deliver carbon nano materials, and MyVitalC, the world’s first nano antioxidant. Chris has an extensive background in a diverse range of areas including Mechanical Engineering, Comedy Improv Artist, Oil and Gas Explosives and Competitive Soccer to name a few. He’s also the co-host of the most popular internet marketing podcast on iTunes since 2009. When Chris realized a Nobel Prize-Winning chemical tested by NASA had been proven to almost double the lifespan of mammals, he decided to make ESS60 into a household item. He’s now on a mission to help people live longer, healthier and pain-free lives one dose at a time.

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Transcript for Episode #176:

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

0:15So today on Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m going to have my guest Chris Burres back, and we are going to talk about his product, my vital C, which is a nanotechnology particle supplements. And if you guys haven’t listened to his first podcast, go ahead, hop on, check it out (Episode #171). It’s amazing. He’s going to talk about this new anti aging supplement. And today we’re going to talk about my experience using his product, how I felt about it. And what are some of the interesting things that I found about the product that I didn’t think we would find. So let me tell you a little bit about Chris himself. Chris calls himself the mad scientist and don’t let the white lab coat fool you. Chris Burres is the owner of S E S research the first company to deliver carbon nanomaterials and my vital see the world’s world’s first nano antioxidant. Chris has an extensive background in the diverse range of areas including mechanical engineering, comedy improv artist, oil and gas, explosives, and competitive soccer to name just a few. He’s also been the co host of the most popular internet marketing podcasts on iTunes since 2009. Chris realized a Nobel Prize winning chemical tested by NASA had been proven to almost double the lifetime span of mammals, he decided to make ESS 60 into a household item. And now he’s on a mission to help others live longer, healthier, pain, free and happy lives. So let’s talk to Chris find out a little bit about what he’s up to today. Find out a little bit more about his product. And then you’ll hear my experience with his product line.

2:08Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health, tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold, toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care. center.com.

3:28Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have Chris Burres with me today. Today we’re going to have a little bit different podcasts because normally Chris is going to tell us all about his stuff. And that’s what we’re going to talk about. But today we’re going to talk about Chris’s wonderful product and my experience with this product. And just so you guys know, he has no idea what I’m about to say about his product. We didn’t even talk about this yet. So this will be exciting for everybody. Welcome to the show, Chris.

3:53Dr. Deb, thank you so much for having me. People are probably already intrigued already. What I’m going to say first is go back and listen to the first podcast. There’s some really good information. I’ll kind of summarize that real briefly. So you know, if you don’t have time, because we know we’re all very busy these days, Dr. Deb and I were talking about how busy we are and how many clones we need, give or take. I think the number is 10 Give or take. So go back and listen to the podcast. But we’re going to be talking about a molecule and if you’re watching I’m holding up a model of the molecule. And if you’re just listening imagine a soccer ball where the lines on the soccer ball represent the bonds between the carbon atoms. So we have a spherical molecule of 60 carbon atoms. It was discovered in 1985. The scientists who discovered it won the Nobel Prize in 1996. And they actually for various reasons thought it wouldn’t be toxic. They put it in a toxicity study, and the results of that study were published in 2012. Instead of this molecule being toxic the test subjects they gave it to in this case it was Wistar rats lived 90 percent longer than the control groups have the single longest longevity experimental result in human history. And and that kind of was the pivot point for my business partner I to change from being carbon nanomaterials scientists and and serving this the carbon nanomaterials scientific community, really for 31 years now. That pivot point, shoved us in the direction of getting into the supplement industry. And it really was an industry if you go back and listen to the the first podcast, you can hear that it was kind of painful for us to get into it. We didn’t. We tried very hard not to get into the supplement industry.

5:38I can understand why. The regulations, the cost, the everything, it’s not an easy feat. So you guys got into the supplement industry you created this my vital see, and in our in our last podcast. So again, if you guys have not listened to go back and listen, but we’ll talk about this a little bit. You actually started taking this product yourself sharing it with family and friends and realizing there was some unique experiences?

6:04Yes, yeah. Well into kind of cover like as soon as you hear a 90% extension of life, some people’s first response is like, well, well, how might this be working? Right. And the current medical community looks at aging as an oxidative and an inflammation process, right. And so it’s interesting that our product ticks both of those boxes, and I have to be very careful. The first one is the antioxidant. There’s peer reviewed published papers out there that say 125 times more powerful than vitamin C, there’s one ad hoc study on the internet that says 172 times more powerful than vitamin C. And I actually want to talk about the theories that we’ve been working in, there’s some research that’s kind of supports it about it not, not exactly being an antioxidant. But let me come back to that. If you look at inflammation, so that’s the other kind of indicator or cause of aging, not indicator, but cause. What we can say is that our product is good with inflammation, at least as it relates to exercise inflammation, what the FDA restricts us from saying is talking about any other types of inflammation in the body. And we can say that it’s, it really does fit perfectly in the anti inflammatory diet. That’s a diet known, what about the blue zone people take, that is their diet, the diet. And these people tend to have reduce incidences of stroke reduces cause of heart attacks, and actually tend to live longer. So we’ve got that. Now let’s circle back to the antioxidant. And we’re working on on a phrase, boss, it’s kind of like Ess 60 is the boss. And it’s just B O S, and that’s buffer oxidative stress. So imagine if you’re in a cell, and the body is one of the body’s jobs is to provide antioxidants, because there’s always this process of creating ATP in the c...

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08:40 The conditions that are very commonly seen with zinc deficiency, and the common drug muggers for zinc.

09:13 People who are suffering from leg cramps at night or muscle spasms, memory loss and fatigue can be a deficiency in CoQ10,  a life-sustaining antioxidant. 

10:01 The health issues that can be tied to low glutathione.

11:00 Weight gain, depression, fatigue, anemia, nerve pain, and a sensation of pins and needles, any of these could be related to one or more deficiencies of B vitamins.

12:58 Zinc deficiency is huge

14:03 Vitamin C is a water-soluble antioxidant, it helps sweep away toxins in the body. This prevents you from having cells damaged as a result. 

15:11 The reason why young, happy, healthy 20 to 30-year-old women are  overweight, tired, depressed and anxious

16:23 Dangerous drug-food interactions and what can happen.

20:32 Anti-acids are aluminum and magnesium hydroxide, and you want to be very careful with aluminum because it can get to the brain and cause focus concentration issues.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

Transcript of Episode #167:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:15Hi, and welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb and today I want to talk to you about the drug muggers. And I’m not talking about the people that mug you for your medication for your pain medication. I want to talk to you about drugs that deplete nutrients from our bodies, and how we can become nutrient deficient without even realizing that that’s actually happening.

Debra Muth 0:42So here’s a word from our sponsor. Have you seen 20+ medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head? Or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations. Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health. Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme, COVID long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. Give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenityhealthcarecenter.com.

Debra Muth 2:04So welcome back, you’re listening to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today I’m talking about the drug muggers. And what I’m talking about is a medication that depletes nutrients within your body or from your body and can cause you to have multiple side effects that we think might be side effects of the medication. But ultimately, it can be side effects because you’re nutrient deficient in something. Now, this is a really common problem that most of this time doctors don’t talk about. And it’s it’s so important to understand which nutrients are being depleted from your body when you’re taking these medications. They literally steal your nutrition and steal your nutrients. So I want to point out just a couple of pieces of medications that can cause problems for you today. And then now as a naturopath and a nurse practitioner. I’ve been prescribing pharmaceuticals for 25 years. And I can tell you, they can be extremely helpful. You know, they can help get you out of pain, they can help you breathe better, they can help alleviate allergy symptoms and seizure activity, which is all huge and it’s all very important for us. But while we’re fixing one problem with a pharmaceutical, we can oftentimes create another problem. And also ultimately the effects of nutrient depletion can leave us with nagging aches and pains and focus and concentration issues as well. You see, there’s about there’s millions of people slipping through the cracks every single day with drug cause nutrient deficiencies, and they get sicker and sicker each and every year, the system gets so out of whack that people think it’s normal to see eight or nine different medical practitioners for the same ailment. And I’ve literally seen patients see 50 to 100 doctors for the same problems and not get any answers. And sometimes it’s a single nutrient that’s deficient and sometimes it’s an infection that’s causing these problems for you. And so I think it’s really important if you’re on pharmaceutical medications to understand which nutrients might be depleted as a result of that medication that you’re taking. As we all know, people get started on one medication and then they get another medication and another medication and another medication and before you know it there could be four or five medications given simply to alleviate a side effect that’s been created by one particular.

Debra Muth 5:00So the RDA or recommended daily allowance is set up by a regulatory agency to tell us how many nutrients we should have every single day of B, vitamin C, iron, sodium, potassium, all of those things. Now, this was set up back in the 50s. And it has never been changed. So the same levels of nutrients that they thought we needed in the 50s is what we need today. Now keep in mind, our soils are extremely depleted of nutrients. And most of the food we consume is nutrient deficient. It’s junk food, it’s not it doesn’t have a lot of nutrients in it. But yet, we’re still saying we need the same daily allowance as we needed in 1950. And I’ll tell you today, that if you were to consume a bowl of spinach from 1950, to get the same nutrient levels that you had, then you would have to consume 20 to 30 bowls of spinach today to get the same nutrition value that we had back in the 50s. So it’s very different. And we are not getting a lot of these nutrients in our foods and in our food supply. And then we’re taking a whole bunch of medications these days that deplete those nutrients on top of things. So I want to encourage you guys to get there’s a book actually called Drug Muggers. And it’s really great. It’s written by Susie Cohen. And she goes through all of the different medications and lists each and every nutrient that’s depleted from these medications. Now, the word “drug mugger” is actually a noun. And it applies to over the counter medication and prescription medications not just pharmaceuticals that are prescribed but over the counter medications as well. That can get rid of these vitamins, minerals, hormones, nutrients, things like that.

Debra Muth 7:08For instance, if you take an acid blocker, something like proper said Pepcid, Tagamet, Zantac, those kinds of things, they actually deplete our zinc level and smoking itself. So the nicotine from smoking depletes vitamin C. And you can see that a lot of these things are going to deplete different nutrients and sometimes many of the same. So we’ll go through just a couple of them here for you to give you an example of what it’s like when you’re looking at medications and which supplements you need to be replacing.

Debra Muth 7:44So I thought I’d start out with some common diagnoses and what some of the deficiencies are. So if people are suffering from depression, osteoporosis and irregular heartbeat, these are typically a mineral deficiency, specifically magnesium, and magnesium depletes female hormones. It’s depleted in diuretics, something called a VISTA, which is what we use for bone loss, anti inflammatories, and aspirin. All of these things deplete our mineral magnesium, and when minerals like magnesium are depleted, we don’t sleep as well. We’re more anxious, we have leg cramping. There’s all kinds of problems heart problems, specifically like heart palpitations, heart racing, this heart feels like it’s pounding through your chest that can all come from a single simple magnesium deficiency. Now, people who have bald patches in their hair, they have a loss of taste or smell. They have erectile dysfunction and chronic diarrhea. And these are all individually they’re not all together. These are conditions that are very commonly seen with zinc deficiency. And common drug muggers for zinc are anti inflammatories, antibiotics, and acids, ulcer, heartburn, medication, diuretics, and some estrogen products can do that same thing. Now for people who are suffering from leg cramps at night or muscle spasms, memory loss and fatigue. Any of these conditions can be a deficiency in CO q 10. And CO Q 10 is a life sustaining antioxidant. It gets demolished by hundreds of medications including things like statin...

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17:23 In more than 98% of those cases with a structural variation diagnosis and scheduled for surgery, the actual issue creating the symptom was muscle

21:17 Muscles are the tissue responsible for function

27:11 Getting revisions is now more plentiful than the original surgeries

29:22 When did this concept of medicating the pain or this concept of masking symptoms medication start

32:25 If you keep treating the structural variations, but the muscle tissue continues to be in distress, it continues to elicit your pain – Therefore, you have chronic pain

34:58 People now equate Chronic pain with chronic illness, but chronic pain and chronic illnesses are completely separate issues

36:37 The reason you’re having chronic pain is probably because you received the wrong initial diagnosis 

37:26 What is the primary thing to do to understand disease

42:31 Strengthen the muscle until its force output is greater than the force requirement

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About our Guest:

Dr. Mitchell Yass is the creator of the Yass method which has been utilized to resolve the pain of thousands, including those who had surgery to resolve their pain with no improvement afterwards. He has been treating patients for almost 3 decades using his unique approach of interpreting the body’s presentation of symptoms to identify the tissue eliciting the symptoms versus the false premise that the cause of pain can be identified by diagnostic tests like the MRI. Dr. Yass has authored three books; The Yass Method For Pain-Free Movement, The Pain Cure Rx and Overpower Pain. He performed a nationally televised PBS special which ran from 2015- 2017 called The Pain Prescription. Yass has been recognized for his work on many nationally syndicated radio interviews and in many publications including Bottomline Health and was given a cover story in August, 2016, March 2017, January, 2018 and May 2019 in What Doctors Don’t Tell You (this magazine is sold in 20 countries and translated into 14 languages). His method is now being utilized virtually and has helped people in multiple countries reclaim their lives. His goal is to see his method become the standard of care in diagnosing and treating chronic pain so people worldwide can see their pain resolved and a return to normal functional capacity achieved. http://www.livewithoutpains.com

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16:06 We have an existential immune system, an infinite potential – There is no such thing as being helpless or being without options

16:48 Every human experience is translated into thoughts and feelings – Feelings are much more important than thoughts in terms of being able to survive

19:33 It’s about mastering chronic pain, not managing

22:30 It’s hard to be a doctor dealing with chronic conditions because they are trained to cure

25:13 Patients are partners in treatment

34:00 How people with chronic illness who are being left hopeless could survive emotionally and physically

37:07 Thriving is living in possibility, Surviving is living in helplessness, But there are always possibilities

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About our Guest:

Dr. Alan Weisser, JD, PhD, and his group at New Options, Inc., a pain management practice, has an extensive background in working with the psychological problems people face when they are living with complex and chronic pain problems. Working at New Options, Inc., he has participated in multi-disciplinary teams that has forged successful collaborations between patients, claim managers, medical practices and agencies including The University of Washington Rehabilitation Department, Puget Sound Sports and Spine Physicians, Labor and Industries, other physicians, rehabilitation specialists and community resources. He has presented on New Options approach to care to physicians at the University of Washington, Labor and Industries, the National Society of Spine Surgeons, the Trial Lawyers Association, and numerous medical and rehabilitation practices. By focusing on collaborative and realistic goals, and practices, within a coherent clinical model, his practice has provided support that empowered chronic pain patients to transition from dysfunction and disability to empowerment and recovery. He looks forward to sharing concepts and techniques for working with people suffering from chronic pain and medical conditions.

Dr. Weisser is uniquely qualified to lead others in experiences of self-discovery. When he was 12 years old, he broke his neck in a diving accident at a local swimming pool. Though he nearly died, he developed an unshakable belief that he could and would recover. During this two-year recovery, he came to understand that it was not just physical pain that affected him. The injury had caused a high level of emotional suffering and self-confidence was severely shaken. His former approach to life, based on taking risk and challenging himself, seemed entirely out of reach. In reaction to this, he engaged in many growth-related activities including becoming a trial lawyer and taking up martial arts, which eventually led to an emerging need for a more profound change in his life. 

Back in New York City with his life reimagined, he began his pursuit of a degree in clinical psychology. His studies led to working with the chronically mentally ill in a state mental hospital for many years. This work deepened his understanding that treating any kind of human pain required understanding and treating a person’s whole life. To do that you need to learn what is meaningful and inspiring to them. 

A move to Seattle in the late 1990’s led Dr. Weisser to applying his evolved awareness, skills and knowledge in dealing with chronic mental, emotional, and physical suffering. In 2002 he founded New Options in Seattle where he has become a highly respected clinician working with patients who suffer with chronic physical and emotional pain. He has developed a systematic way to help them discover their potential and their abilities, and master chronic conditions. 

Website: newoptionsinc.com 

Book: “New Possibilities: Unraveling the Mystery and Mastering Chronic Pain”: https://tinyurl.com/2v6eskzy 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-weisser-434541122 

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Transcript of Episode #158:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Hello, hello, you are listening to Let’s Talk Wellness Now Podcast. Welcome if this is your first time finding us, welcome back if you’ve been with us before, today we’re talking about chronic pain. More than 50 million adults in the US suffer from chronic pain, costing the nation roughly $635 billion annually to treat chronic pain. Chronic Pain is a crazy thing for people to live with. And everyone’s threshold in dealing with pain is very different. For some people, a little bit of pain, puts them out, leads them to looking for medication, or alcohol or marijuana, all kinds of different things to help alleviate that pain. And for other people, we can see them suffer with such severe pain, and never take an Advil for it. So the question is, why do some people need medication? Why can some people get away without medicating? And how do we deal with this extreme chronic pain syndrome that we’re dealing with in our country today? Because it is one of the biggest reasons why we have addiction. Because people are looking for a way to medicate themselves. So they can continue their daily activities. And this has been a major problem in our country, both from an addiction standpoint and a financial standpoint. And from a standpoint of people just losing their livelihood, losing their ability to do the things that they love, and the things that are so important to them. Their families miss out their children miss out there’s just so many complications that are resulting from chronic pain. So my guest today, Alan Weiser is a pain specialist, a chronic pain specialist, where he works in Seattle to help people overcome and master the pain management situation, master the psychology around it, master the pain itself. And he’s going to share a story with us about him being 12 years old and diving off a swimming pool. You can imagine what comes next after this if if he went down the road of dealing with chronic pain. So Dr. Alan Weisser is joining us today from new options Inc, a pain management practice. He has an extensive background in working with the psychology psychological problems people face when they’re living with complex and chronic pain problems. So we’re gonna bring on Dr. Weisser in just a second. First we’re going to go to our sponsor, and hear a quick note from them.

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Well, welcome back to the show. I have Dr. Alan Weisser with me. Did I say that? Right?

Alan Weisser 4:38You got it.

Debra Muth 4:39Perfect. So Dr. Allen, tell us your story. How did you get involved in treating chronic pain?

Alan Weisser 4:45Okay, really quickly. I’m a clinical psychologist, and I’ve specialized in chronic pain for the last 20 years. And before that spent almost that amount of time working with a chronically ill And Leo 10 of those in the state mental hospital in New York. But the story actually begins in my own childhood. So what the work that I do is is not just clinically it’s also it’s also personal to me. And anybody who’s suffered with any persistent or chronic condition can probably relate to this story. So I’m 12 and a half. And as a child, I was what would have been called headstrong. I kind of wanted to figure things out for myself, but I was pretty good at risk taking. So I had this idea that I wanted to learn how to do trick diving on the board, and the swimming pool. Did you know when you do a backflip on a board, you’re supposed to dive out? Not straight up? Oh, I must have missed that lesson. Mm hmm. So I did it incorrectly. I hit the board. I broke my neck. Right. Now, here’s where that story r...

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11:42 The six essential pillars to heal from Lyme Disease

15:39 What Emotional Alchemy is

18:10 One of the most difficult decisions that Catherine had to make in order to regain her health, was to quit her nurse practitioner job

21:23 The Energy Equation =  How we generate energy + How we invest energy, divided by the energy leaks

22:35 What is Energy Leaks

26:32 How does one recognize they have these energy leaks

29:17 How a practitioner like Catherine, could help someone having energy leaks

32:44 Reprogramming the subconscious mind – Reprogramming fear and negative thoughts

35:12 All of the memories that we have been imprinted into the subconscious mind

37:51 Working with the body and mind together, bring a whole new level of wholeness and healing

40:16 The most crucial step for somebody to take, is to go from victimhood to captain of their ship

Resources MentionedWhether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com

About our Guest:

Catherine is a Mind-Body Healing Practitioner and Master NLP Transformational Health Coach who works with people who are tired of being tired and worried.She can hear, see and feel the emotional and physical “energy leaks” in people and help them “plug” these leaks. As a result, her clients regain sustained physical/emotional energy, recover faster from illnesses, attain mental clarity, self-confidence, feel more at peace with themselves and happier in their relationships.Catherine is a hang glider pilot certified as an Applied neurosciences Practitioner and holds a Nurse Practitioner diploma. She’s currently pursuing a doctorate in Natural Medicine and studying the Ancient Wisdom of Siddha Veda that stems from Ayurvedic medicine. As a chronic Lyme disease survivor who healed in record time, she also developed a unique expertise tohelp Lyme disease sufferers regain their health and life without losing their time or money.

www.missionlyme.com/home

www.catherinegagnon.ca/en

https://www.facebook.com/CatherineGagnon.TransformationalCoach

If you wish to book a discovery session with Catherine, follow this link: https://calendly.com/catgagnon/discoverysessiondecouverte

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Transcription of Episode# 155:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb And we’re discussing Lyme disease. Lyme disease is a very problematic condition everywhere in the country, not just in the Midwest, but I’m happy to be talking to a master NLP transformational health coach, body, mind and healing practitioner Katherine who works with people who are tired of being tired and worried. She can hear see and feel the emotional and physical energy leaks in people and help them plug these leaks. As a result her clients regain sustained physical emotional energy, recover faster from illness and attain mental clarity, self confidence, feel more at peace with themselves and happier in their relationships. Catherine is a hand gliding pilot certified as an applied Neuroscience practitioner and holds a nurse practitioner diploma. She’s currently pursuing a doctorate in natural medicine and studying the ancient wisdom of Siddha beta that stems from the RU Vedic medicine. As a chronic Lyme disease survivor who healed in record time she has developed a unique expertise to help Lyme disease sufferers regain their health and life without losing their time or money. This is going to be a great conversation for us to have because so many people that suffer with Lyme disease end up financially broke because a people don’t recognize what their problem is in the beginning. And so they end up seeing, you know, 50,60,100 Doctors at a time, they spend a lot of money out of pocket. They do a lot of therapies that people promise will make them better, and unfortunately, sometimes it doesn’t work. So talking to Catherine today, I’m excited to hear about her five bodies of health roadmap model that she’s created to help people heal from Lyme disease. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head? Or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health, tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as Chronic Lyme COVID, Long Hollers Autoimmune disease, Mold toxicity, and Hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at serenityhealthcarecenter.com Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I have Catherine Gagnon with us. Did I say that right? Yeah. I knew I was gonna not do that. Well. Catherine is with us today. And we’re going to talk about Lyme and energy and the energetics and epigenetics how they all play a role. So our last couple of episodes that we’ve been doing, have been talking about epigenetics and exercise and individuality. So now we’re going to spread this along some chronic illness and how to heal and so I’m super excited to bring Catherine to you guys today. Welcome to the show.

Catherine Gagnon 4:19Thank you so much, Dr. Deb for having me on the show today. I’m very excited to to be here with you.

Debra Muth 4:26Well, welcome. So tell us your journey around Lyme disease.

Catherine Gagnon 4:31Yes. So it’s, I’m going to try to make it succinct because as you know with chronic illnesses, it can be a long journey. So it was in 2016 that I started to feel very sick, you know tired, probably, you know digestive issues. Deep chills in the middle of summer and heart palpitations pains everywhere. I mean, it goes on and on and on. And I was working as a nurse practitioner back then. And I was, I mean, working in the medical field trying to find some answers, and my colleagues were trying to help me out and things were just not evolving. So I kind of took matters into my own hands and started to study functional medicine. And anytime I’d learned something, I would order some test and some supplements, but we I really didn’t know what I was dealing with. And, and it was really bad after dead like, I felt like there was something eating up in my body. And remember when my doctor said, Well, we did a couple of tests and we can’t find anything. You know, your hemoglobin might be a little bit low sigh But you’re a woman. It’s just stress. Katherine, I said, No. in 36 years of living in this body, it’s never felt like something is eating it up from the inside. So I kind of rolled up my sleeves, and I understood I was buying on my own on this journey. And I thought, wow, okay. I didn’t come this far to, to die, basically, because that’s how it felt. And I research research research did a lot of studying despite my declining health, and it took me eight months to find the diagnosis that it was actually Lyme disease. And then just through my research, I was able to kind of track back to when I acquired it, which was 16 years prior to this flare up, which was when I was 20 years old, traveling in Australia, backpacking, I was not even yet a nurse yet. And, and I remember having this little bug here that wouldn’t leave when I’m, you know, swishing it away. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, the legs are like, I panicked, and I took it out. And I had all the signs and symptoms of the primary infections of Lyme disease. And you know, the flu like symptoms, fatigue, and even some weird anxiety, panic stuff. And then, incidentally, or serendipitously, a couple of weeks after I got, or months, after I got bitten, I traveled to Thailand. And the prophylactic medication for malaria was doxycycline, at the time, once a day, but the treatment for acute Lyme in the conventional medicine is Doxycycline, twice a day. So it’s like, I got half treated for a month. And I remember bo...

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13:37 – We don’t really have an expert in Autoimmune Diseases, so we need everyone to be team players 

17:10 – Autoimmune disease doesn’t just happen one day, it happens over the course of time from different things

21:12 – What is Hashimoto Disease and what are its symptoms

22:43 – Epstein Barr Virus is the virus that causes Mono and can trigger autoimmune diseases

28:24 – When you start changing your lifestyle, the social aspect of things is a challenge

29:56 – Just because it is healthy does not mean it isn’t delicious

32:25 – How Elaine’s journey to wellness from her autoimmune disorder got started

35:54 – Women have so much to give after 50

40:57 – Keeping your blood sugar steady is a big part of getting through menopause

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Elaine has worked in the wellness industry as a certified pilates instructor for the past 16 years. Nine years ago she developed Hashimoto’s and guttate psoriasis which took her on a health journey of finding the answers to put her autoimmune illnesses into remission. Radically changing her diet reversed her symptoms of fatigue, weight gain, hair loss and dry skin. Supplementing with collagen gave her a whole new head of hair and glowing skin. Coming out on the other side of this gave her an unshakable belief in the profound interconnectedness of health and beauty. In 2015 she launched a collagen water having no previous experience in the beverage industry. In 2019 she relaunched with powdered collagen under the new name, Elaine Wellness. 

https://elainewellness.com/

https://www.instagram.com/elainewellness/

Transcription of episode #152:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m your podcast host, Dr. Deb, and I am with Elaine Morrison today, Elaine has worked in the wellness industry as a certified Pilates instructor for the past 16 years. Nine years ago, she developed Hashimotos and psoriasis which took her on a health journey of finding answers to put her autoimmune illnesses into remission. radically changing her diet reverse her symptoms of fatigue, weight gain, hair loss and dry skin. Supplementing with collagen gave her a whole new head of hair and glowing skin. I can’t wait to hear from Elaine how she did this. Because so many people are suffering from autoimmune disease and having these challenges that it’s it’s really becoming a problem. We have more autoimmune disease now than we ever had before. We’ve had more chronic fatigue than we have ever had before in this country. And statistics actually show that 49% of the people who have been sick with COVID are going to suffer from a long term chronic fatigue, along with other complications. And I think that some of the things we’re going to talk to Elaine about today can really help those people who are suffering from chronic fatigue not only from COVID, but also from other viral illnesses, other bacterial infections, things like that, that leave us ridden with chronic ailments after a acute illness.

Debra Muth 1:59Have you seen 20+ medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health, tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long hollers autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenityhealthcarecenter.com.

Debra Muth 3:18Elaine, welcome to the show.

Elaine Morrison 3:20Oh, thank you to have it’s a pleasure to be with you today.

Debra Muth 3:23So Elaine, I was introducing you before we got started and having you on and telling a little bit about your story. But will you tell us your story like how did you get involved in looking at autoimmune disease and on your journey of looking at a healthy lifestyle?

Elaine Morrison 3:40So it started in 2013 I was teaching Pilates full time I was managing two Pilates studios for a private club and working out and eating well. And all of a sudden I found myself sleeping 10 hours a night and feeling still exhausted. I gained 10 pounds in three months when nothing about my diet or exercise had changed. My hair started falling out and and breaking. My skin was insanely dry. And I went to my doctor and told her this whole list of symptoms and I basically got the pat on the head of like well, but you’re 44 years old. And this is just kind of the norm. Kind of like here you go sign sign on the dotted line. This is what you’re signing up for in midlife and she would only test my TSH. She wouldn’t do a full thyroid panel and she said I absolutely will not test you for thyroid antibodies for Hashimotos. Wow, did she explain why she didn’t. She didn’t and the only reason I had even known about Hashimotos was I started reading one of Sara Gottfried books and That’s where I read about it. And I thought, gosh, you know, a lot of these symptoms, I’m having sound like Hashimotos. But I’ve literally, I had never heard of it before. So that’s where I started. So I was immediately put on level five rock scene and sent on my way. And I did initially start to feel better once I started taking the level of Iraq scene. And then about six weeks later, I broke out in guttate psoriasis from my scalp to my ankles.

Debra Muth 5:33Wow.

Elaine Morrison 5:34Yeah. And I just actually read something the other day that there is a big correlation between thyroid issues and psoriasis, which I just learned that today. Um, and so, again, I was sent for, like, I spent so much money on allergy testing. They thought maybe it was the binders and the level thyroxin. So I was immediately taken off of the level of Iraq scene. And then I’m just curious by nature, so I just started reading, I literally, I went online and started reading, I started reading, I believe her name is Isabella Wentz book, she’s a pharmacist, who wrote a book about Hashimotos. And I just refused to accept the answers that I was being given. So I, I removed gluten from my diet, I was already vegan. And now looking back, I think that was actually part of the problem. I think I was very, very nutrient depleted. So when I went to an endocrinologist, and I was like, all excited, I had my book and I had highlighted and again with my piece of paper in my notes, and again, I kind of got the pat on the head of like, well, if you want to remove gluten and dairy and all of that, that’s fine. But there’s really no science behind it. And I just like a light bulb went off in my head, and I thought I’m not I’m not coming back to her.

Debra Muth 7:02So Well good for you for a doing your own research and trying to figure out what’s going on. And I hear this a lot in my practice, too is people are told A) we’re not running this test B) it doesn’t matter, C) honey, it’s okay. It’s just your age, you just gonna have to learn to live with it. There’s nothing we can do about it. And it’s unfortunate that practitioners out there feel that way. And that’s the answers that we’re getting. And but but kudos to you for not taking that as an answer and digging in and finding the truth for yourself. Because ultimately, that’s unfortunately, what we have to do. Ultimately, it’s all about you and how you feel. And I really want people to understand that if you’re not getting the answers that you need from your practitioner, it is okay to seek out someone else to find someone that aligns more with you. So many people need that permission to do that. And you’re paying them, you know, whether it’s an insurance payment or cash, you’re still paying them because you pay the premiums. So they should be working for you to do the best for you. But unfortunately, many of them don’t.

Elaine Morrison 8:13Oh, my gosh, I wrote a blog post about this, that you’re literally hiring a consultant, but I are so trained in our culture, to put a doctor on a pedestal that they somehow have all the answers. Whereas, you know, I’ve been fortunat...

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[13:15]  Sometimes you have to confront the situation  and just be pleasant to stop it

[16:40]  When you have to put on a fight, you gotta fight to win

[26:46 ] The closer you are to crime, the more likely you are to be a crime victim

[27:25]  How to get  through a traumatic incident and get out of that victim mentality

[31:06]  Trust yourself and go look after yourself

[33:53]  Traditional martial arts gets your body more aligned and a good traditional school will teach you social skills as well

[37:45] There are so many things that we do without even thinking, that are compromising our senses for us to be safe

Resources Mentioned

What if you could improve your health & increase your productivity? Find out how with the Vibrant Female Coaching Program at https://vibrantfemale.com/traning

About our Guest:

Doug Setter is an award-winning author who draws on his background, education and vast life experience to write books that change his readers lives. His time as a crime reporter, UN peacekeeping soldier and paratrooper and kick-boxing title champion inspired him to train people in fitness, martial arts and self-defense as well as write books. Doug is the author of One Less Victim: a personal protection manual, Reduce Your Alcohol Craving, Flat Gut After 50 and Fit Femme After 50. His first novel about crime and childhood bullying, “Selo” won first place Global eBook award for teen literature. When he is not writing, he spends his time training clients and enjoying the west coast.

www.2ndwinbodyscience.com 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougsettertrainer

Transcription of Episode #136:

Debra Muth 0:00Welcome to Let’s talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Hello and welcome back to let’s talk wellness. Now everybody, this is Dr. Deb, I’m your host today. And I bring to you a guest that is going to change your thought process from being a victim to having power and control over your situation. So I am bringing Doug setter to you today. And the title of our conversation or our show today is overcoming victim mentality. Doug is an award winning author who draws on his background education and vast life experience to write books that changes readers lives. His time as a crime reporter U.Npeacekeeper, soldier, paratrooper and kickboxing title champion inspired him to train people in fitness, martial arts and self defense as well as writing books. Now Doug is the author of one less victim, a personal protection manual to reduce your alcohol cravings flatten your gut after 50 Oh my gosh, I’m so there and fit them after 50. His first novel about crime and childhood bullying. cielo won first place global ebook award for teen literature. When he’s not writing, he spends his time training clients and enjoying the West Coast. Doug is from Canada. So let’s welcome him today everybody. It is great to have you here today, Doug, welcome. Today’s episode is brought to you by vibrant female. Now we’re all trying to build a fulfilled life. One that’s exciting, fun, and leaves us fulfilled and energized. But we don’t all have the energy the drive or the bodies we want. So I’ve created the vibrant female coaching program. And you know, I have just recorded a training on how to supercharge your life with maximum brain function, optimal energy. And yes, I’m going to say it, mind blowing sex and reawaken the female goddess inside of you. Now, who wants this amazing free webinar, if you do, just hop over to vibrant female.com slash training, and it’ll be in the show notes here as well. And you can get access to this free program where you can learn all about the things that I did to regenerate my life, get the body that I want. And yes, have mind blowing sex as well, while running a business, taking care of clients and raising my family. So check us out. It’s the vibrant female health program. And it is that vibrant female.com and for your free webinar training. It’s vibrant female.com slash training. Welcome back to the show everybody. This is Dr. Deb you’re listening to let’s talk wellness now and I am with Doug setter. I’m so excited to have a conversation with him today. So Doug, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Doug Setter 3:35Yeah, I was in the army. I did some peacekeeping over the UN. I was one of these, you know, original, weak teenagers. You see the ads for I was like 116 pounds trying to get the army and I get knocked around a bit and then I eventually got healthier and stronger. And I learned kickboxing and I competed in Canada. I competed in Hong Kong and got very fit and I noticed certain things about self defense and it wasn’t just fighting it was just being your awareness like we did in the military. We always had, you know protection and we always we did patrols we thought ahead. And so I found that entrance I wrote a book called one less victim guide to crime prevention. And I taught first self defense and I taught some local women’s kickboxing is a lot of fun, by the way, really good turnout for that and that’s about it. I just I do Personal Training, I write books I stay ahead of the game, but I have found health and people’s attitude. Were very important. And you know, as I noticed as people got stronger and fitter, they took less nonsense, if you will. So it all ties in your self esteem, your self worth your health.

Debra Muth 5:00You You were a crime reporter for a while

Doug Setter 5:03Yes.

Debra Muth 5:04What did you see? I’m assuming you saw some patterns to things and just before we came on live we were talking about that victim mentality Can you tell us a little bit about where you see that victim mentality coming from and what it does to people when they can’t get out of it?

Doug Setter 5:22That’s a good point. You know, one thing I used to do in my students is let’s look at a crowd and immediately people are consistently picking out that that that victim and they’re the person who awkward head down they sometimes have physical disability like the lamp they’re just right away you can see there’s a predators praise it’s quite sad really. And there’s a process and you want to break up this process and I found it’s interesting because yesterday I just got approached I almost got scammed. And I thought Wait a minute, I’m being scammed here and there’s a process first there’s a bad intention you have someone who’s you can tell right away I can usually pick some of them I’ll etailers someone up to no good and the other part I learned the hard way as a kid was what they call self defense experts call the interview and you’re being interviewed being checked out you’re being like a you know when a stray dog come up to you and he kind of sniffs trying to decide whether or not they can you know intimidate you or attacking you so that’s the most important part and this can be in case of women unfortunately I see some guys be very aggressive with them and see where they can push right they do these subtle things and I noticed that and with guys sometime your mind your business someone throws an insult at you and and I’ve had to bite my tongue because well can you see there’s three of their friends standing off to the side so they’re trying to set you up they’re trying to steal your racket and if I go yeah okay no time how you doing Hey nice shirt there’s look a disappointment right and then we get into positioning already decide so usually if someone wants to do harm they want to be in a situation where they don’t get hurt you know they don’t they will try to get you somewhere private if you will. And then they want an escape route and this is something I’ve noticed and and I know in the bar scene guys would tell me as someone intimidates him the next thing you know we get two or three guys Malina is one guy, no setup, so we want to watch the positioning we don’t want to go somewhere alone. We don’t want to get stuck in the stairway want to not go into our apartment? If you suspect someone’s doing it you go back to your car you know if you suspect a friend of a friend has bad intentions leave you you drive the police station whatever but you go away from that situation and what we do is we a lot of times you’re very very oh I don’t want to offend people all you know and yesterday I had a bit of that guy trying to take money off me and he was being very more he was trying he said he was selling or he was looking for donations for the Red Cross. Well I’ve been overseas the Red Cross they go into disaster if they don’t ask for money and became very aggressive and I then I kind of clicked in wait a minute this this this person they’re not being legit and so I kind of sent it back to them then call the police but it was interesting so I digress we’re in now we’re in positioning so you’ve got two or three people and you have a stronger male you know maybe it’s I’m gonna be very blunt with you it’s probably the college football captain who was intimidating this young you know university student and no

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About our Guest:

Alison Keith is a holistic skincare expert changing the conversation around premature aging. In 2019 Alison and her husband Steve co-founded Whole Story Skin Care. With family ties in custom skincare formulation, they launched their direct-to-customer brand selling premium quality plant-based products. 

Alison saw a gap between the misinformation from beauty industry marketing & advertising vs. what science says about preventing & reversing the signs of aging. It was then she decided to tell the Whole Story. “Our holistic approach shares the same principles as functional medicine, targeting the root cause of aging for long term results.”

Alison is in her 40’s, she has never opted for cosmetic injections, nor is she a self-professed “product junkie.” Alison has learned from cell biologists, chemists, and skincare industry pioneers. Her passion is advocating for a more natural way of aging well without harsh invasive chemical procedures.

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Transcription for Episode #128:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16I have the pleasure of interviewing Alison Keith today, who is a holistic skincare expert, and she loves changing the conversation around premature aging. In 2019, Alison and her husband Steve co founded fullstory skincare. with their family ties they’ve created and launched a direct to consumer brand selling premium quality plant based product. Alison saw a gap between the misinformation from the beauty industry marketing and advertising, to what actually was happening with science, and what they were doing to prevent and reversing the signs of aging. I’m so excited to be talking with Alison today. Because she is in her 40s she’s never opted for cosmetic injections. Nor is she self professed product junkie. And she has learned from cell biologists, chemists and skincare industry pioneers. Her passion is really about advocating for a more natural way of aging, without the harsh intensive chemicals, and procedures. So Alison and I are going to have this conversation today about skin and what’s really happening with the aging process. Hi, everybody, this episode is brought to you by my very own Phoenix factor coaching program. Look, we are all about trying to create that absolute perfect life. Let me show you how to do that for free. In my virtual coaching strategy call. You and I are going to spend 20 minutes chatting about your desires where you want to take your business life, your health, and of course, your sex life. And then I’m going to give you tips and ideas and techniques on how to actually get that going. So you can have that absolutely perfect, amazing life you’re looking for. Now it’s super simple. All you need to do is click on my calendly link here in the podcast notes. And hop on pick your time. And let’s start creating that amazing life that you’re looking for. Welcome back to the show everyone. I’m your host, Dr. Deb with let’s talk wellness now and I have a wonderful guest for you today. Alison Keith and Alison is going to talk to us about skincare and aging could not be a better topic for all of us. Because the reality is we’re all aging, right. And we want our skin to age gracefully. And we want it to look and feel as healthy and good as possible without having to do a lot of crazy things to make us look younger. Right. So Alison, welcome to the show. I’m so happy to have you. Hi, Dr. Deb. Thank you. I’m so glad to be here. So Alison, tell us how you got started in skincare and looking at this from an aging perspective. Yeah, so

Alison Keith 3:15I consider myself a holistic skincare expert. And but five years ago, I got involved with my husband’s family who has family ties in skincare. And I just started to kind of dive in and learn about it. And what I realized is there is a big gap between a lot of misinformation that’s coming to us from marketing and advertising in the beauty industry. And then what science says about how our skin is aging. And so from that about two years ago, my husband and I started our own brand called the whole story. Because even though I am you know passionate about skincare, my real passion is educating women who are getting misinformation that you know, possibly cosmetic procedures or, you know, really extreme, you know, measures to to prevent the signs of aging. And I think what I’ve learned when looking at the science is that our skin is incredibly resilient. It knows how to reverse the signs of aging when it’s healthy. And so we started the whole story we have about 14 skincare products, we have an essential system and then we have some anti aging systems as well but it’s really formulated for sensitive skin to prevent and reverse premature aging. Now lump that’s when I’m talking about premature aging. I am not talking about our genetics. Now all of us our skin started to age at about age 20. And about every year after that we lose about 1% of collagen and As we age, the natural functions of our skin just start to break down. So we start to make less hyaluronic acid, well, that causes less moisture in our skin, we start to make less acidic water, which causes our skin to become dehydrated. And so all of this is naturally happening. Now, what’s going on in our skin today is that due to the standard American diet due to our lifestyle, and due to environmental toxins, our skin is starting to age prematurely, which means all of these natural functions of our skin are now going to war with things like excessive sun exposure, or environmental toxins or toxic particles in the air. If you live, you know, in a in a large city, that combined with what we’re putting in our bodies, like, you know, gluten and dairy, and alcohol and sugar, all of that is actually causing our skin to possibly look up to 10 years older than our actual age.

Debra Muth 6:07Wow, that is a huge difference. Because you know, people don’t talk about this kind of thing, we talk a little bit about what we put in our bodies and how it reflects our skin. But you rarely hear people talk about the toxins. And I think that’s important because too, when we look at traditional skincare lines, they’re full of all kinds of toxic chemicals, or chemicals in that nature, if we want to just call it that things we can’t pronounce. And those things can’t possibly be good for our skin can they?

Alison Keith 6:38No and then also, you know, when you talk to women, you know, 20s 30s 40s, they are being told the message that our culture is getting is to inject your skin, with Botox or with fillers, and to use, you know, really harsh anti aging chemicals to really shock your skin and to stop it from showing signs of aging. And what we know now is that the body doesn’t necessarily respond well, you know, to being shocked. And sometimes I compare the skincare industry to Western medicine, where it’s kind of popular to put a bandaid on the problem, or write a prescription or do something immediately to make the symptoms go away. And that’s not how the body responds, and the skin is no different. So as a company as a brand, I really want to change the conversation around skincare and really align our brand with functional medicine, which goes to the root cause and addressing the root cause to really stop. You know, the problem from persisting and getting worse, I like to kind of explain it, like getting your teeth professionally whitened because they look beautiful, and they look clean and radiant. Well. It’s, it’s a cosmetic procedure, it’s your teeth have been, you know, professionally whitened. But you still need to brush, you still need to floss and you still need to get your your cleaning. And so that’s kind of how we can look at what’s going on in procedures, and then how you can actually reduce and prevent premature aging in your skin on a daily basis.

Debra Muth 8:28So awesome. You know, and I think one of the things that people don’t realize is, skin is an organ of our body. It’s actually the largest organ of our body. And when we’re talking about skin health, we’...

Do not miss these highlights:

[05:58] How a Pediatric dentist saw oral-facial muscles impacting Karese’s children sleep

[09:44] If you haven’t gotten restorative sleep during your youth, that’s going to compromise your health and your immune system

[10:44] Signs that you may have issues with sleep

[13:41] Do sleeping patterns or habits impact breathing?

[16:49] What is the difference between a home sleep study vs sleep study in a facility 

[18:00] There’s over a 70% overlap between sleep deprivation and those signs and symptoms in ADHD children 

[18:44] Few tips that parents can do at home that might help them start to make some sleep changes 

[22:43] Benefits of using humidifiers in a dry room

[23:52] Dietary changes that can help sleep better

[25:32] When you’re eating so late at night, your body is so focused on digestion and not on rest

[26:46] What is myofunctional therapy

Resources Mentioned

Serenity U – Gain access to a searchable library of health tips and strategies with Dr. Deb – https://debra-s-school-1b7e.thinkific.com/courses/serenity-u 

About our Guest:

Karese Laguerre, like many parents, suffered in silence while her children struggled with the symptoms of undiagnosed sleep and breathing issues. One visit to a pediatric dentist changed the trajectory of their lives. Already a Registered Dental Hygienist (RDH), Karese, trained with Sandra Holtzman, Lois Laynee and Sarah Hornsby to establish her orofacial myology knowledge. With this initial training and numerous others, in a few short years she has not only resolved all her children’s issues but helped hundreds of patients, children and adults alike, discover how great life can be functioning on full. Her private practice, The Myo Spot is now a leader in the quest for myofunctional therapy awareness and public education.

Her latest published book, Accomplished, delves into how to sleep better, eliminate burnout, and execute goals. Karese’s mission is to transform and positively impact as many households as possible through dynamic breath, brain and bodywork.

Connect with Karese:

www.themyospot.com

www.airwaymatters.blog

Book: “Accomplished: How to Sleep Better, Eliminate Burnout,and Execute Goals”

Transcription of Ep #127:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to let’s talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb.

Debra Muth 0:20I have a very special guest with me today Karese, who like most parents she suffered in silence while her children struggled with the symptoms of undiagnosed sleep and breathing issues. Once she visited the pediatric dentist, it changed the trajectory of their lives. She was already a registered dental hygienist and crease trained with Sandra Holtzman, Louise laning, and Sarah Hornsby to establish her oral facial myology knowledge. That’s a mouthful, guys, but this is going to be an amazing training for you. So her initial training with numerous others in a shoot few short years, she had not only resolved all of her children’s issues, but helped hundreds of patients, children and adults alike discover how great life can be with functioning at their fullest. She has a private practice called the Myo Spot is now a leader in the quest for myofunctional therapy, awareness and public education. I’m really excited to have priests with me today as we talk about the benefits of oral dental appliances and various therapies that you can use to help obtain better sleep, which will eliminate burnout. So much of what we talked about here on the show. And her mission is really to transform and impact as many households as possible through her dynamic breath, brain and body work. So I am going to turn this show over to crease and let her tell us everything she knows so that we can all sleep better, and have healthier, happier and more fulfilled fulfilled lives. While we are getting improved sleep.

Debra Muth 2:12I’m Dr. Deb, founder of Serenity Health Care Center. I want to thank you for joining our let’s talk wellness now podcast, it has been such a pleasure to share our knowledge. With so many people. We are averaging about 25,000 downloads an episode. And that is amazing because it’s showing us how much people want to learn about health and wellness. Outside of the health care center, we have had the pleasure of changing lives for over 8500 clients, both men, women and their children. As a result of this, I have created serenity you a university Learning Center where you can access all of my knowledge that I have developed over 25 years of practice at your fingertips in an easy to find index library, you will have access to this dashboard 24 seven, it will be like having your own personal natural path at your beck and call any time a day. I’d like to encourage you to check it out at Serenityu.com.

Debra Muth 3:28Everybody, this is Dr. Deb from let’s talk wellness now and I have Karese Laguerre here with us today. And we are going to talk about sleep and what she’s done with her children. And this amazing center that she’s created as a result of something that she went through. So welcome to the show.

Karese Laguerre 3:49Thank you for having me. It’s so such a pleasure to be here. Thank you.

Debra Muth 3:53So Chris, tell us your story. I always love to start with people’s stories, because that’s where all the meat and potatoes is. Tell us about your story and your children because they were they suffered some sleep issues. And that’s kind of what got you on this journey. Correct?

Karese Laguerre 4:08Yes, absolutely. So I think that as a parent, that’s always going to be the Spurs so many wonderful adventures we wind up on is definitely the children. But I started my career as a registered dental hygienist and in working as a registered dental hygienist. I was working for this fabulous pediatric dentist who kind of put together some dots for me. So what I think as parents we tend to do is we hold a lot inside so somebody will come by and they’ll ask, you know, how’s everything and you tend to just give them all the good stuff like yay, Johnny’s doing great and soccer and you know, we’ve got ballet on Monday for Susan, something that’s so light and fluffy and it makes your world sound amazing. But the reality of my personal situation was that my son, my eldest and my only son had a big issue with impulse and behavioral control ADHD and for a long time, we ignored it. And it got really bad to the point where now we had to medicate it and really pay heavy attention to it. And then my oldest daughter had every sleep issue under the sun. I mean, you name it, she suffered with it. So whether it was sleepwalking, sleep talking night terrors, bedwetting, everything and it was consistent every single night, there was something going on for 10 years, the first 10 years of her life, it was major. And then the younger two, we just felt like we you know, my husband, at one point told me that we should just ask for a keg on the prescription for the antibiotics because we’re just back and forth so much with them with the year and throat infections and constant constant congestion. But it was my pediatric dentist that actually was the one who kind of put together all that. So while there were a myriad of things going on in my home, and it manifested in different ways. He was the way in which they were breathing and using their oral facial muscles that were really impacting their upper respiratory system, their sleep, and therefore everything else declined as a result with their health. So that sent me down a rabbit hole, and got me into what I do now. myofunctional therapy and helping both children and adults alike, discover functioning on full from better sleep better breathing.

Debra Muth 6:27That’s amazing. And you know, so many times we don’t ever think of our oral facial muscles impacting our sleep. So it was really just kind of a blessing that your pediatric dentist saw them and kind of uncovered this.

Karese Laguerre 6:44Yes, absolutely. Working with a lot of stuff, so a lot of different appliances and so forth. Because right now, I think dentistry is going on that trajectory where they’re starting to work more with sleep and different appliances. But very little do we think about the impact that that might have as a youth, on children, their sleep matters to their at these critical stages where, you know, they don’t get in that stage three of sleep, that’s the only time when human growth hormone is secreted. And so they’re missing a lot of their growth potential. There’s a lot of impact and be just on their sleep or their behavior, but actually their growth and development if they’re not actually cycling through the way that they should in their sleep stages.

Debra Muth 7:29Absolutely. You know, and there’s so many kids that struggle, like you said, with the bedwetting and the walking and the night terrors and all of these things. And we keep looking for infections or neurotransmitter imbalances, or are they on the spectrum somehow, but we don’t look often to what’...

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10:28 We’ve all had some metabolic damage, and for a lot of us, it’s not actually your fault, you’ve been duped by misinformation.

11:02 You have to get healthy in order for your body to drop fat.

12:19 The three key things to a better metabolism and a healthy body -Body Composition – Blood Sugar Balance – Great Sleep.

13:06 Toxins circulating in your body are damaging, they storm in your fat and make you more insulin resistant.

15:31 If you’re doing things and they are not working, that’s actually just vital information.

16:34 The sicker you are the farther back in your ancestry, you have to go.

17:26 Your body is not supposed to be eating all the time, you’ve got to have this time for your body to get past digestion, and start restoration.

22:16 Build a plate that starts with protein first because everything builds around protein.

27:48  Why some people that have done great on keto, have greatly lost weight, but later on started gaining weight, and starting Keto doesn’t work again.

32:53 If you’re eating well and exercising, but you’re not sleeping, you’re at risk for obesity.

34:24 Some don’t differentiate fat carbs and protein. They just focus on how many calories they burn, and that would lead them into a spiral problem.

41:38  Focus on having a healthy body and not on how you lose weight because a healthy body burns stored fat for fuel, a healthy body holds on to a built muscle, and a healthy body detoxifies.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

JJ Virgin CNS, BCHN, EP-C

Triple-board certified nutrition expert and Fitness Hall of Famer JJ Virgin is a passionate advocate of eating and exercising smarter. JJ helps people stay fired up and healthy as they age, so they feel the best they ever have at age 40+.

JJ is a prominent TV and media personality, whose previous features include co-host of TLC’s Freaky Eaters, 2 years as the on-camera nutritionist for Weight Loss Challenges on Dr. Phil, and numerous appearances on PBS, Dr. Oz, Rachael Ray, Access Hollywood, and the TODAY Show. She also speaks regularly and has shared the stage with notables including Seth Godin, Lisa Nichols, Gary Vaynerchuk, Mark Hyman, Dan Buettner, and Mary Morrissey. 

JJ is the author of four NY Times bestsellers: The Virgin Diet, The Virgin Diet Cookbook, JJ Virgin’s Sugar Impact Diet, and JJ Virgin’s Sugar Impact Diet Cookbook. Her latest book, Warrior Mom: 7 Secrets to Bold, Brave Resilience, shows caregivers everywhere how to be strong, positive leaders for their families, while exploring the inspirational lessons JJ learned as she fought for her own son’s life. 

JJ hosts the popular Ask the Health Expert podcast, with over 11 million downloads and growing. She also regularly writes for Rodale Wellness, Mind Body Green, and other major blogs and magazines. JJ is also a business coach and founded the premier health entrepreneur event and community, The Mindshare Summit.

https://jjvirgin.com/

Do not miss these highlights:

04:15 How Rafi works with a team at the Department of Veterans Affairs in developing an integrated or multidisciplinary approach to pain management.

08:25 The BioPsychosocial Approach to pain management.

14:20 Pain is a sensory and emotional experience that is a creation of your brain based on the real or perceived tissue threat.

16:04  Sometimes our brain and our sensory system get those calls wrong,  getting a series of misinterpretations over time.

17:58 If the pain is real, all we need to do is retrain that sensory system that this isn’t dangerous, so you can start moving pain-free.

19:39 The greater issue is, patients are losing hope because they’re not being given hope by the medical system.

22:44 For the longest time, healthcare and third-party payers have kind of viewed healthcare service delivery as almost industrialized.

24:56 If you’re still experiencing pain, find somebody who is talking about Neuroscience and Pain Perception.

27:37 Other kinds of practitioners that can help you with pain management.

30:28 One of the great benefits of Telehealth is that it removes this potential danger of becoming clinician dependent.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Rafael E. Salazar II, MHS, OTR/L (Rafi) is the Principal Owner of Rehab U Practice Solutions, a leader in patient retention strategy. He has experience in a variety of rehab settings, working with patients recovering from a variety of injuries and surgeries. He worked as the lead clinician in an outpatient specialty clinic at his local VA Medical center, where he worked on projects to improve patient & employee engagement and experience throughout the organization. In that role, Rafi led a team to roll out a patient engagement initiative rooted in relationship-based care. 

After leaving the VA, Rafi began working as a healthcare consultant, on a multi-million-dollar project for Georgia’s Department of Behavioral Health & Developmental Disabilities. This project involved work related to the transition of individuals out of state institutions to community residences and establishing statewide mobile integrated clinical services for individuals on the state Medicaid waiver program. As part of that project, Rafi developed and launched a large internal marketing & communications campaign aimed at increasing awareness for internal stakeholders about integrated clinical services within the state. 

He also developed protocols and systems to coordinate and manage interdisciplinary collaborative care within the State’s Medicaid Waiver system as well as clinical and operational guidelines for case management & telehealth and virtual service delivery.

Rafi also has experience as an assistant professor at Augusta University’s Occupational Therapy Program,, as a Licensed Board Member on the GA State OT Board, has served on several committees for the national OT Board (NBCOT), and as a consultant working for the State of Georgia’s DBHDD. He is also on the Board of Directors for NBCOT. He owns and operates Proactive Rehabilitation & Wellness, a multi-specialty outpatient clinic that treats patients experiencing musculoskeletal and orthopedic conditions as well as chronic pain.

At Rehab U Practice Solutions, Rafi helps clinics, health systems, and healthcare companies improve patient engagement & experience leading to increased revenue & lifetime patient value. He envisions a world where skilled, competent, and caring clinicians serve and care for engaged patients to promote better clinical outcomes, unmatched patient satisfaction, and lasting relationships. 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafaelsalazarii

https://pro-activehealth.com

https://rehabupracticesolutions.com

Transcript for Episode #170:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb and today I’m talking with Rafi Salazar, and we’re going to talk about chronic pain and the importance in relationships between health care providers and patients. So Rafi is the principal owner of rehab you practice solutions a leader in patient retention strategy. He has experience in a variety of rehab settings working with patients recovering from various injuries and surgeries. He works as a lead clinician in the outpatient clinic at his local VA medical center, where he works on projects to improve patient and employee engagement and experience throughout the organization. Rafi led a team to roll out patient engagement initiative rooted in relationship based care. After leaving the VA right, Rafi began working as a healthcare consultant on a multimillion dollar project for Georgia’s Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Disabilities. This project involves work related to the transition of individuals out of state institutes to community residents and establishing statewide mobile integrated clinical services for individuals on the state Medicaid waiver program. Rehab you practice solutions, helps clinics health systems and health care companies improve patient engagement and experience leading to increased revenue and lifetime patient value. He envisions a world where skilled, competent and caring clinicians serve and care for engaged patients to promote better clinical outcomes, unmatched patient satisfaction and lasting relationships. You know, I’m just going to say here, this is such a wonderful mission statement, because in today’s day, where it seems like everyone cares only about money and not about people. This is such an amazing vision. And I don’t think this country has always been in this mindset. I really do think health care people in general, were always out to help one another. And somewhere along the trajectory, things changed. And I’m not exactly sure where that was that it changed. But we became very money hungry and driven by money and things. And it’s very difficult to move away from that mindset, because we’ve been raised with that for so many years. So hearing Rafi talk about how he wants to engage patients and promote good clinical outcomes. So patients don’t keep spending their money and not getting any benefit of what they’re doing. And he wants to see patient satisfaction, this could completely redefine healthcare as we know it. And I really think this is where healthcare needs to go. And where we need to take a stand on healthcare is looking at actual patient outcomes and cost benefit ratios where everybody wins in the benefit of health care. So with that, I’m going to bring on my guest, Rafi and we are going to chat about how he’s looking at doing this.

Debra Muth 3:48So, welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I’m with Rafi cells are today. And we are going to talk about chronic pain and things that you can do to help with chronic pain as well as how to establish and execute your relationship between healthcare providers and patients. So Rafi, welcome to the show.

Rafi Salazar 4:09Hey, thanks for having me.

Debra Muth 4:10Thanks for joining us. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Rafi Salazar 4:14Sure. So I’m an occupational therapist by trade and I guess my work in chronic pain and life started back in when I graduated, I went and worked with the Department of Veterans Affairs and saw a lot of veterans that were experiencing chronic pain and the time I was there was that whole 2012 through 20, like 1516 timeframe where the VA for a long time had been promoting. Basically because they had too much too many patients and not enough clinicians. They weren’t they were doing a lot of opioid treatment for pain and then all 2012 and on, it’s kind of when the FDA said no, this opioid epidemic is what it’s being called now is out of control with us. are cutting people back. And they began. Some of the stories are, were pretty horrendous. There were people have been receiving fentanyl, fentanyl patches and things like that for 15-20 years, and they went into their PCPs office. And they were basically told we have to cut you off. So these patients have, at that point builds up a dependency on these medications to manage their pain and their chronic pain. And then we’re being basically cold turkey. So-

Debra Muth 5:26yeah, no weaning process or anything with that. How terrible,

Rafi Salazar 5:31it was it was pretty rough. Sometimes there was some stuff down, but a lot of it was the the physicians themselves are scared about prescribing opioids, because they began being monitored and watched and all of that. So in an effort to keep veterans from being just dropped, right, the VA really invested a lot of time and energy and research into non pharmaceutical methods for managing chronic pain. And I was able to work with the team to develop we call it an integrated or multidisciplinary approach to pain management. And that’s kind of where where my work with pain got started. And through that, ...

Today on let's Talk Wellness now, we're diving into the most cutting edge and misunderstood frontiers in chronic illness treatment. Induced native Phage therapy, or INPT and induced native microbial therapy. My guest is Dr. David Jarrigan, one of the country's most innovative minds in biologic and bioregulatory medicine. Dr. Jaragan is widely known for his pioneering work in the treatment resistant Lyme disease and chronic infections and for pushing the boundaries of what's possible when we stop fighting the body and instead learn how to regulate it. He is the inventor of multiple advanced diagnostic and therapeutic technologies including biospectral emission sequencing, matrix interface testing, chrono quantum testing, and most recently INPT and inmt, technologies that aim to activate the body's own native intelligence to restore balance and eliminate chronic infection. Dr. Jaragan is the author of five books, including the best selling Beating Lyme Disease and trained extensively in Europe, Biologic Medicine and under Thomas Rao at the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland. His work challenges the conventional infectious disease model and raises an important question. What if chronic illness persists not because we haven't killed enough pathogens, but because we haven't restored regulation? This is going to be a fascinating and paradigm shifting conversation. But before we dive in, let me remind you this podcast is about empowering you with knowledge to make the best choices for your health. So grab your tea or coffee and let's talk Wellness Now. So for those of you who have heard me before, you're going to recognize my voice is a little froggy today. I've been fighting a little laryngitis for the past couple of weeks. So forgive me for my voice sounding a little bit off. You may see me drink a little bit on this episode just to kind of moisten my voice. I am totally fine. I'm not sick. I am just fighting this laryngitis that just will not go away. So it is clearly telling me something. But I'm going to keep pushing forward, bringing you amazing guests like Dr. Jarrigan today and I am so excited for this conversation. For those of you who know me, I've been treating Lyme for 20 years. So this is going to be an amazing conversation for me as well as you and we are going to learn some some great things together. So right after we get back from our sponsor, we are going to bring Dr. Jaragan on and we are going to have this amazing conversation. Today's episode of let's Talk Wellness now is brought to you by Health Tech Sauna. One of my absolute favorite tools for detoxification and cellular healing. If you've followed me for a while, you know I talk often about the importance of supporting your mitochondria and removing toxins, especially if you're healing from chronic illness, mold exposure or hormonal imbalance. The HealthText sauna uses advanced full spectrum infrared technology that penetrates deeply into the body to help release stored toxins, reduce inflammation and boost circulation. All from the comfort of your own home. I personally use and recommend the HealthTech sauna in my own home because it's medical grade, low EMF and built for serious healing, not just relaxation. And right now my listeners can save $500 off their own sauna by going to healthtech health.com doctordr muth req 25 so run over there right now and get your $500 off your own sauna because healing starts with detox.

David Jernigan 4:12

All right. I'm Dr. David Jernigan, and I own the Biologic Center for Optimum health in Franklin, Tennessee. And I've been in practice for over 30 years. I shook Willie Burke Derfer's hand, if anybody knows who that is. It's kind of infamous now with some of the revelations that have happened about Lyme being bioweapon weaponized. But you know, I've been doing this probably longer than almost anybody that's still in the business in the natural realm. It chose me. I did not choose Lyme. Matter of fact, there were many times in my career that I was like, you know, cancer is easier because of the fact that everybody agrees, you know, what we're dealing with. And in the 90s, it was a whole different reality where nobody actually understood that you could have Lyme disease and not be coming from New England. I had actually the first documented case of a Lyme disease CDC positive patient that had never left the state of Kansas before. So they couldn't say that it wasn't in Kansas. And so, so she had actually been pregnant with twin boys and they were born CDC positive as well. So it is transmitted across the placenta. We know. So the history of how I did all this was in the 90s, probably 1996, probably somewhere in there. 97 with this woman. I if you go into Robin's pathology books from back then, which we all used medical doctors and everybody else studying, you know, there was basically a paragraph about Lyme disease. And on the national board tests, as you recall, it was probably like, what causes or what is bullseye rash associated with? And you had to guess Lyme disease, of course, but that was, you know, considered to be more in New England illness. And you Would never see it anywhere else. But here was this woman. I knew nothing about Lyme beyond what we had gotten taught in college, which was, like I say, next to nothing. And she would not let me stop feeding me information. I mean, you gotta remember, the Internet wasn't even hardly in existence.

Dr. Deb 6:36

Yeah.

David Jernigan 6:36

Years. I mean, it was brand new. It was supposed to be this information highway. And so I started purchasing like a lot of doctors do. Even now, they start purchasing every kind of new supplement that's supposed to work for bacteria. There was no product in those days that actually was Lyme specific. I mean, nobody was really dealing with it naturally. It was always a pharmaceutical situation and.

Dr. Deb 7:05

A very short course at that.

David Jernigan 7:06

Yeah. Two weeks of doxy in your period, whether your symptoms are gone or not. Which she'd had the two weeks of doxy, and her symptoms and her son's symptoms were not gone. And so I absolutely just purchased everything I could find. Nothing would work. I mean, I could name names of products and you would recognize them because they're still out there today. Which is kind of a sad thing that natural medicine is still riding on these things that have the most marketing.

Dr. Deb 7:37

Yeah.

David Jernigan 7:38

Sometimes the things that actually have the documented research behind it. I am a doctor of chiropractic medicine, and I specialized all these years in chronic incurable illnesses of all types. That may sound odd to a lot of people, but doctors of chiropractic medicine are trained just like a GP typically would be. The medical schools, as I understand it, got together decades ago and said, wow, if all we did was crank out general practitioners for the next 10 years, we wouldn't have still enough general practitioners to supply the demand.

Dr. Deb 8:17

Right.

David Jernigan 8:18

Everybody in medicine, in medical schools wanted to be a specialist because that's where the money was. It was easier kind of also to just focus on one part of the.

Dr. Deb 8:28

Body and specialize in that, be an expert in that one area.

David Jernigan 8:32

Yeah. So we all now have the same training. We all go through pre med. We got a bachelor's degree. I got my bachelor's degree in nutrition through Park University in Parkville, Missouri. And so, you know, when I ran out of options to purchase, I just used a technology that I developed, which was an advancement upon other technologies, but I called it bioresonance scanning. And I coined the term back in the 90s. It was a way to kind of like a sensitive test. You know, like you might think of applied kinesiology, then clinical kinesiology, then chiroplus kinesiology. Then, you know, you can just keep going with all the Advancements that were made, well, this was an advancement upon those things. So I developed, I was the first in my known world of doctors to develop a way to detect adjunctively. Obviously we can't say it's a primary diagnosis adjunctively detect the presence of given specimen. So we can say, thus, say if my test, it's highly likely you have Borrelia Burgundy for a. But I had to have the specimen on hand to be able to match what I call frequency matching to the specimen, which was a brand new concept in those days. And so I was able to detect whether or not my treatments were successful or not. This is something even now that's really difficult for doctors because antibody tests, even the most advanced ones, it's still an antibody test, it's still an immune response to an infection. And accurately. Some doctors will slam those tests saying, well, that doesn't mean you actually have the infection. That just means your body has seen it before. Which is a correct statement, kind of. So being able to detect the presence and even where in the body infections are was a way huge advancement in the 90s, for sure. It's kind of funny, I think about a conference I went to because I'm kind of jumping ahead because I ended up developing my own formula just for this woman and her children. And it worked. And I was like, wow. Their symptoms were gone. All the blood tests came back negative in those days. We were using the Igenx Western blot eventually. And the what was called a Lyme urine antigen test. I don't know if you remember that because it only decades later did I meet the owner of Igenex, Nick Harris, in person. I was like, whatever happened to the Luwahat test? Because they took it off the market after a while. Honestly, we lost the antigen and couldn't find. Find it again.

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Dr. Deb 0:43What if your body already contains everything it needs to heal? In this episode, I’ll explore how regenerative medicine is revolutionizing the way we treat chronic illness by harnessing your body’s own remarkable healing abilities. If you’ve been told you’ll just have to live with it or that medication is your only option, this information could change everything for you. The truth is, conventional medicine often focuses on managing symptoms rather than addressing what’s actually causing your health problems. But regenerative approaches are different. They aim to repair, restore and regenerate damaged tissues at the cellular level, targeting the root causes of your own symptoms. Today, I’m going to break down the science behind these groundbreaking therapies, share inspiring patient stories and offer insights into how these treatments might help when traditional approaches have failed you.

Dr. Deb 1:48You’re going to learn in this episode how regenerative medicine differs from conventional symptom management, the science behind cell therapy and who it might help, why platelet rich plasma PRP, that’s a mouthful. Therapy is offering new hope for chronic pain and the latest research on regenerative approaches for autoimmune conditions, how these therapies might help with previously untreatable conditions, questions to ask your doctor about regenerative options and so much more. So let’s start by understanding what the heck is regenerative medicine anyway? Unlike conventional treatments that often rely on medications to mask symptoms or surgeries that remove damaged tissues, regenerative medicine focuses on actually repairing and restoring function to these damaged tissues and organs. It’s exactly what we talk about on this show all the time, finding and addressing that root cause rather than just managing symptoms. And that’s precisely what makes regenerative medicine so revolutionary for chronic illness. This field encompasses several innovative therapies, but today I want to focus on two of the most promising approaches, cell therapy, also called stem cell therapy and platelet rich plasma treatment, or PRP. First, let’s talk about stem cell therapy, or cell therapy. Stem cells are essentially your body’s raw materials. They’re cells that can transform into many different types of specialized cells, from heart muscle to brain tissue to bone, and when introduced into damaged areas, they can promote repair and reduce inflammation and kick start your body’s natural healing processes. What makes this particularly exciting, though, is that in many cases, we can use your own stem cells harvested from bone marrow, adipose tissue or fat tissue that help reduce the risk of rejection and harness your body’s own healing capabilities. We can also use other people’s stem cells, in the case of umbilical or placental stem cells that come from donated participants, to help regenerate your own tissue as well. Dr Raphael Gonzalez is a leading immunology expert in this field, and explains that stem cell therapy can help repair a fatigued immune system, potentially reversing age related decline and restoring balance after illness or injury. This has profound implications for conditions ranging from autoimmune disease like multiple sclerosis rheumatoid arthritis to neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease as well. We’re even seeing promising applications in cardiovascular disease, diabetes.

Dr. Deb 5:00And chronic pain conditions. I recently spoke with a patient named Bob who had been living with debilitating rheumatoid arthritis for over a decade, and after trying nearly every conventional treatment with limited success, he underwent stem cell therapy. Six months after his treatment, he was able to reduce his medications by half. The morning stiffness that used to keep her in bed for hours decreased dramatically, and for the first time in years, he could open jars and button his own shirt without pain. While it wasn’t a miracle cure, it gave him quality of life that he looked after forever,

Dr. Deb 5:43his experience isn’t unique. Many patients are finding relief where conventional medicine fell short at the best part, these treatments are typically minimally invasive, often performed on an outpatient basis with relatively little downtime. Now let’s talk about PRP platelet rich plasma therapy. This treatment uses a concentration of your own platelets, tiny blood cells that play a crucial role in healing, to accelerate the repair of damaged tissues. And here’s how it works, a small sample of blood is drawn and placed in a centrifuge, a device that spins your blood, which separates the platelets from the other blood components, kind of just like we do when we take your blood for a normal blood test, but this concentrated solution of platelets is rich in growth factors. It’s then injected to an area that needs to repair or heal.

Dr. Deb 6:41PRP has shown remarkable results for joint injuries, arthritis and soft tissue healing. Athletes have been using this therapy for years to speed recovery, but now it’s becoming more accessible to everyone dealing with chronic pain and degenerative conditions. The benefits are compelling. It’s minimally invasive, has little risk of rejection, since it uses your own blood and can significantly improve symptoms, sometimes reducing or eliminating the need for surgery or long term medication. Beyond stem cells and PRP, researchers are developing exciting new approaches, small molecule drugs that can activate the body’s own stem cells to repair tissue affected by age related diseases are showing great promise. These therapies are being developed for conditions like osteoarthritis, inflammatory bowel disease and even heart failure. Dr ADIL KHAN, another pioneer in the field, emphasizes that the combination of stem cells, exosomes, which are tiny vesicles released in the cells that facilitate cell to cell communication, and peptides, can regenerate damaged tissues, reduce inflammation and either slow the aging process itself. What excites me most about regenerative medicine is how it’s changing our approach to chronic illness from resignation to hope by focusing on tissue repair and immune system balance, these therapies aim to modify or even reverse disease progression, not just manage your symptoms. The treatments are personalized to each person’s condition and biology, and while they’re not a cure all, many patients experience lasting improvements in pain, function and quality of life, especially for conditions that previously had limited treatment options. So what does the future hold for Regenerative Medicine? Clinical trials are currently exploring stem cell therapy for chronic fatigue syndrome, Long Haul covid and various autoimmune diseases. These researchers are also working to make these treatments more accessible and affordable. As Dr Khan puts it, we’re at the beginning of a new era in medicine, one where we don’t just accept chronic illness as inevitable, but actively work to reverse it by harnessing the body’s own healing capabilities. If you’re someone living with a chronic condition, what should you take away from today’s episode? First, regenerative medicine offers genuine hope, not for symptom management, but for actual healing. Second, while these treatments are becoming more mainstream, they’re still evolving. It’s important to research thoroughly consult with specialists who have specific training in regenerative medicine and have realistic expectations. And finally, the field is advancing rapidly. Treatments that seem cutting edge today may be standard care in just a few years. Remember, healing is possible when we address the root cause, and regenerative medicine is giving us a powerful new tool to do.

Dr. Deb 10:00Exactly that.

Dr. Deb 10:02Thank you for joining me today on Let’s Talk wellness. Now. If this episode resonated with you, share it with someone who could benefit from learning about regenerative medicine and its potential for chronic illness. Remember, wellness isn’t just about feeling good, it’s about thriving in every area of your life. If you’re ready to explore how regenerative medicine and functional medicine can help you visit us at Serenity healthcare center.com, or reach out to me directly through functional mbi.com,

Dr. Deb 10:34until next time I’m Dr Deb, reminding you to take care of your body, mind and spirit. Be well, and we’ll see you on the next episode. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Let’s talk wellness now brings expert insights directly to you. Please note that the views and information shared by our guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of Let’s Talk wellness now its management or our partners, each affiliate, sponsor and partner is an independent entity with its own perspectives. Today’s content is provided for informational and educational purposes only, and should not be considered specific advice, whether financial, medical or legal. While we strive to present accurate and useful information, we cannot guarantee its completeness or relevance to your unique circumstances. We encourage you to consult with a qualified professional to add...

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04:18 What is Mast Cell Activation Syndrome?

07:42 People are sicker now, and we’re living in this incredibly toxic soup of a world. 

10:43 The timeframe of MCAS treatment.

14:14 Defining Mast Cell Activation.

19:52 The symptoms of Mast Cell Activation Syndrome.

26:11 Mold is the hardest thing people go through and for many people it’s traumatizing. What’s the remediation?

31:45 It is, and there’s no, there’s no one solution that works for everybody. It’s about looking at each individual person. So we also have a mold inspector who consults as a third party.

32:51 And then the other thing I share as you’re checking people out, is if a company tries to sell you that they can remediate your home only with a fogging solution and you don’t have to remove the mold. Runaway, please don’t give them any money. Because that doesn’t work. All it does is improve your air quality temporarily and locks you into having to have that treatment done again and again and again and again. 

36:03 why children and pets are more heavily affected 

37:56 How do you find a specialist to help you with Masel Activation?

44:49 only 10% of people are being diagnosed. So it doesn’t mean you don’t have it. If you don’t have a diagnosis. 

46:05 the mold toxicity because of how destructive mold toxins are.

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I’m Beth O’Hara, and I work with clients with Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. I am a Functional Naturopath and Functional Genetic Analyst. I have a Doctorate in Naturopathy specializing in Functional Naturopathic Approaches and a Master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy. I found my own root causes contributing to my MCAS and have been able to heal. I can help you find your root causes too. 

After decades of seeing traditional health care practitioners, I felt like I was at the end of my rope. The medications often made me worse. Being given the wrong supplements didn’t help either. Finally, I discovered a three part approach that helped me get well: Genetic Analysis, Functional Naturopathy, and Emotional Wellness. Combining the three approaches allowed me to explore genetic root causes underlying my MCAS. I analyzed my lab testing to better understand imbalances in my body. This helped me choose supplements personalized for my individual needs. Stress reduction techniques form a big part of my self-care as well. These things all allowed my body to heal. Since then, my passion is working with others with MCAS to find their root causes and support their healing. 

I have been in practice for over 10 years and have helped hundreds of clients. I can help you too. Together, we will identify your unique root causes, analyze your lab results, and develop a customized healing plan based on your needs, goals, and lifestyle. I’m really looking forward to meeting you on this journey and guiding you in regaining your health, wellness, and full potential. 

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Transcript of Episode 192

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have with me today Beth O’Hara, who’s a functional naturopath and a functional genetic analyst. And we are going to talk about mold exposure, mast cell activation, and How To Detoxify mold. This is a huge problem since 75% of our buildings today in the US are affected with some kind of mold issue. People do not realize how sick they can get from mold. So you’re gonna want to stay tuned and listen to this episode, and learn about how mold toxicity can cause problems for you and what you can do about it. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head? Or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations. Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care center.com. So welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now. I’m Dr. Deb. I am going to be speaking with Beth O’Hara, who is a naturopath and she works with clients with mast cell activation. She’s a functional naturopath, a functional genetic analyst. She has a doctorate in naturopathic specializing in functional naturopathic approaches, and a master’s in marriage and family therapy. She found her own root causes contributing to her issues with mast cell activation, and was able to heal them. If you cannot find the root cause you cannot treat it. So after decades of seeing traditional healthcare practitioners, Beth felt like she was at the end of her rope. Like so many of us who’ve had chronic illness, and with wrong diagnoses, wrong supplements, wrong medications, she finally figured out for herself what was causing her problems and was able to heal. So now she combines three approaches that allow her to explore the genetic root causes underlying her own mast cell and her clients to better understand the imbalances and help them heal. So without further ado, I’m going to bring on Dr. Beth O’Hara, and we’re going to talk about mast cell and mold toxicity. So Beth, welcome to the show.

Beth O’hara 3:49Thank you so much. I’m really excited about it. And I find over and over. This is a big lightbulb conversation for people with chronic illness. And it’s so common.

Debra Muth 3:59It is extremely common. You and I probably see it because that’s where we specialize in. But the unfortunate part that I see and I’d love to hear your opinion on this, too is how many people we see in the general public are who are seeing regular doctors over and over and over again for complications of things. And nobody is linking it back to their house being sick, or them having a chronic infection, or them even understanding what mast cell is because I find so many doctors don’t understand what mast cell is or how to treat it or anything. Can you talk a little bit about your experience with that?

Beth O’hara 4:36Well that’s exactly right. And I have a lot of clients. Not a lot but I’ve had a handful clients in medical school. And so they’re getting the like most up to date what’s being taught and they come in and say we had a one hour lecture on mast cells and mast cell activation syndrome still not being taught and we know it only got a diagnosis code in 2016 and It usually takes 10 to 20 years for medical school to catch up with the research for various reasons. The population studies that were done pre-COVID showed that 17% up to 17% of the general population has mast cell activation syndrome. That’s including healthy people. And then we know that COVID is a huge mast cell trigger that’s been established. And so all these people develop mast cell activation syndrome post-COVID. And don’t realize it. I think this is where we’re getting into all these issues with long COVID, which is a whole other conversation we can touch on. But because the mast cells aren’t being properly addressed, and when they’re being addressed in our clinic, we’re not seeing long haulers. So that’s been great. But I think this that 17% is now much higher, and we need new population studies, given what we’ve just been going through. And then when I talk with my colleagues in this area, we’re estimating that over 75% of people with chronic illness are dealing with mast cell activation syndrome. And this is a big thing that’s tying together going, you know, the GI symptoms and the neurological symptoms and the cardiovascular symptoms. But people are running from specialist to specialist, somebody has to tie it in. Yeah, what’s going on underneath? And then the biggest triggers, why are these mast cells dysregulated have to be identified and know that’s what we’re going to unpack here.

Debra Muth 6:31Yeah, absolutely. And I would agree with you, so many people that have chronic illness, have some degree of mast cell, I mean, it may not be full blown dysfunction, you know, they they have a major issue, but there’s some degree of it. And we’re seeing more and more of it than we ever have before in our chronic illness. I started treating Lyme disease and mold toxicity 25 years ago, we didn’t see the mast cell stuff back then the way we see it now. And maybe we just didn’t know it was there. And we didn’t know what to call it. Back then we called a lot of it chemical sensitivity. That was the big term back then. And now I look at it and go. I think that chemical ...

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00:19 What is Thermography and how it works in our body.

02:44 Thermography allows us to see changes in breast tissue much sooner than Mammogram.

05:17 If you do not want to follow conventional standards, Thermograms can guide how natural therapies are working and help to determine the changes in those treatment plans.

05:29 How thermograms can be used to detect disease early.

06:55 How Dental Thermography works.

07:47 Some of the most common signs and symptoms of a disease.

09:15 Thermography uses the body’s sympathetic nervous system. So it’s a reliable way of monitoring immune function, as well as a reliable way to monitor the response of treatment and rehab over days.

10:47 Thermography can be used to determine exactly where to place the needles to reduce the pain and can be used to identify problems with stiffness, pain and inflammation.

11:26 Stress fractures can be identified by seeing a hypothalamic pattern on the bones, even long-term fractures or tears can be seen by Thermography.

12:33 The indication that there is a regional pain syndrome going on.

16:33 Thermography is a great tool to detect disease. It should be our first-line therapy, not the last resort.

17:18 Find a thermography practice or practitioner in your area and make sure they only use a medical grade Thermography camera.

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Transcript of Episode 187

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb and today I want to talk about Thermography. Thermography is a non-invasive pain and radiation-free monitoring of the body for various conditions. It’s best known for use and it’s breast management. And some related disorders we can monitor are things like arthritis, dental inflammation or infection, thyroid conditions, chronic nerve injury complex regional pain syndrome, also known as RSD, fibromyalgia thrombosis, which is a blood clot, fractures, pain, referred pain, soft tissue injuries, Fortune injuries, muscle-skeletal syndromes and diabetes. Thermography is used to identify inflammatory conditions prior to disease, and it can be used to assess treatment outcomes, assessing and staging of various dysfunctions. It is unique in its qualitative and quantitative assessment and helps to monitor the progression of disease. You see, the human body is thermally symmetrical, and our normal heat or thermal patterns are constant and repeatable topology, which will cause synthetic change in most instances. And these thermal differences can be seen on digital infrared thermal imaging, also known as DITI D I T I. And it’s a highly sensitive and totally non-invasive clinical imaging procedure for objectively detecting and monitoring many injuries and conditions in the human body. Because the human body is thermally symmetrical meaning the same, we can use comparative views left to right to detect physiological dysfunction. Clinical thermography is just a simple test of physiology that lies on the sympathetic nervous system to breathe out the bad skin, and blood vessels and the ability of the sympathetic system to respond and react to pathology anywhere in the body. It is controlled by the central nervous system and pathology is seen in long strips of skin called Dermatoids, and digital thermography of the breast takes only about five minutes and is a valuable tool for alerting your healthcare practitioner to changing conditions in your breast way before it becomes apparent on film or on a mammogram. It notices those symmetrical colors and the breast images change.

3:06It’s possible to see active cancer cells double in the patient under the age of 50. We noticed that cancer cells may be present for eight years prior to the mammogram, detecting it thermography allows this visualization of changes much sooner than that. So typically, you will see changes in thermography. Seven to 10 years sooner than what you’ll be able to detect in mammogram. Mammogram has gotten very good at detecting very small conditions. But with thermography, what we’re actually detecting is that inflammatory change underneath the breast tissue that occurs long before tumors set in, so we can see those changes relatively quickly by using thermography. If we monitor the breasts that have a condition present, every three to six months, we’ll be able to see that change much faster, and it’ll look like a hot or a warm area. Oftentimes breast cancer loves to develop in that upper outer quadrant of the breast. So when we see those changes, and they’re different from side to side, and it’s warm, it’s it’s orange or red or white, white is our hottest color. We already know that there’s something going on in that area. Now, by using thermography. We can start mammograms earlier or if the mammogram doesn’t detect anything, we can push for breast MRI, which can detect things even sooner and smaller areas than mammogram can. Typically, breast MRIs are not covered by insurance unless there’s a very strong family history or a personal history of breast cancer. However using demography See if we could push to get that covered sooner if there was something that was going on that we were concerned about, and we could prove that it was happening multiple times over. So, once the something can be identified, it can be biopsied and then it can be addressed. If people do not want to follow conventional standards thermograms can guide how natural therapies are working and help to determine that change in those treatment plans. demography can show indicators several months before any clinical changes are seen, like I had mentioned, especially in inflammatory breast disease, we will see split discoloration, swelling or pain and inflammatory breast disease cannot be detected by mammogram. And it’s most commonly seen in younger women. The prognosis is very poor because it can’t have early detection in mammogram, like other breast cancers can and 1% of the breast cancers are found in men, the survival rate is much lower in men than there is in women simply because of early detection. And by the time male breast cancer is identified, it’s already in an advanced stage. Now the skin is an organ and has specific regions called dermatomes. That through the autonomic nervous system relate to every internal organ and structure and images can be seen showing hyperthermic asymmetry over the left lower chest indicating coronary artery disease even. And if there’s a decreased blood flow to the heart, it typically reflects in a blue circle. So as we’re doing breast thermography, we can see some of these cardiac stages as well. When we’re looking at dental thermography abscess teeth can be seen via a red and white inflammation around the mouth or the gum tissue. And it’s possible to see dental inflammation that even your dentist cannot detect by visualization or X ray. I’ve sent many patients to the dentist for things that we’ve seen on thermography. And the dentist takes an x ray and they can’t find anything. When the patient shows them their thermography the dentist confirms that there is something going on in that tooth, even though they can’t see it. We typically see a lot of this when there’s root canals involved. And oftentimes there can be infection underneath the root canal harboring, which can cause problems, you might not even feel pain, but that’s low grade infection that is infecting your body and causing you to be ill.

7:47In the case of low back pain, this is really interesting because there can be referred pain that comes from different areas, we can see inflammation in the abdomen, indicating that there might be kidney dermatomes that are infected, which can cause refer back pain. We can also see neuropathy that is due to pinched off nerves in the spine. Those are also common things that we can see. Now the legs are really interesting to look at too because we see varicose veins, nerve and circulatory issues from our thermal imaging. And when these are identified, vascular interventions can be done with minimally non invasive procedures and when people have had pain for many years, and other methods of testing have not identified the reason for their discomfort. Oftentimes, the thermogram can indicate something different because it detects that inflammatory condition that appears seven to 10 years before disease can actually set in and our traditional imaging can see it. I had a patient who had knee and leg pain for over three years, but had a full range of conventional testing. And nothing was found they even did a nerve conduction study Wait, mg could not find anything wrong with the leg that was causing the pain. thermographic study confirmed the diagnosis of phlebitis. And you know thermal thermography uses body’s sympathetic nervous system. So we can see all of these different things. It’s the control of the skin’s blood flow is a window into that autonomic nervous system. And a compromised immune system can also be seen on thermography by looking at a distinct area over the spine called T1 and T2 which is at the top of the spine or at the base of the neck, and it’ll look like a giant big blue bullseye. And that indicates to us that there’s an un...

[01:24] DEB: What if a simple urine test could reveal hidden clues about gut health, nutritional deficiencies, mitochondrial function, and even factors contributing to neurodevelopment changes. Today, we're speaking with William Shaw, PhD, a pioneering biochemist whose research has helped shape the field of functional laboratory testing. We'll explore autism research, the organic acid test, and why understanding metabolism may be one of the most important keys to personalized health care.

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[02:30] DEB: Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I'm Dr. Deb and today's conversation explores the fascinating intersection of biochemistry, functional medicine, and personalized health. Our guest is William Shaw, PhD, biochemist, researcher, author, and the founder of the Great Plains Laboratory, now known as Mosaic Diagnostics. For more than three decades, Dr. Shaw has researched metabolic disorders, autism, gut microbiome imbalances, nutritional deficiencies, and environmental toxicology. His work helped popularize the organic acids test known as OAT, a laboratory assessment used by many functional and integrative medicine practitioners worldwide. So, as normal, grab your cup of tea, coffee, or whatever helps you unwind and settle in to another amazing episode. Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I have the pleasure of having Dr. William Shaw, PhD with me today. And I'm excited for this conversation. We were just chatting before we went live and we've got some great topics for you. But I want to first start by hearing his story about what got him interested in this type of medicine. So you've been a biochemist for quite a while. Tell us your story.

[03:56] WILLIAM: So the story was I was doing research at the Centers for Disease Control to try to find out about a really abnormal thing, which was: all the thyroid testing in the whole world gave falsely elevated values. And so I was given the mission of finding out why. It was bizarre. At the CDC, I was given the direction to find out this was why all the thyroid testing in the whole world gave falsely elevated values, so that nobody got the correct thyroid value, no matter where they were in the world. They were getting erroneous values. And the strange thing is if you put purified thyroid hormone and you stored it, it would go down with time, but if you put serum and then measure the thyroid, it increased with time. So there was the blood was giving high values whereas purified thyroid hormone declined. So there was something about the serum that was making the values go up. And so I found the cause was fatty acids, fatty acids that were not attached to glycerol or some other things. So in other words, free fatty acids, not fatty acids that were part of triglycerides. They were okay, but fatty acids that were separated, if you added them to serum, it made the values go up. And so I wanted to find out what the mechanism of that was. And it was that the free fatty acids denatured all the proteins in the body. And the protein that measured thyroid hormone was also being denatured. So the way it worked, that made high values occur. So that was a major thing. And of course, this was before the internet. So nobody in the world knew about this, except the people who read my scientific paper, you know? But so everybody, probably for a period, maybe of five years, everyone who did thyroid hormone tests got a falsely elevated value. And this finding put an end to that. And so shortly thereafter, a new neighbor moved in next to me and I went over to the neighbor to introduce myself, and the woman — she and her husband were mid-20s, and she said, "I've been meaning to come over, but my husband is extremely sick. He has juvenile diabetes. And he has extreme kidney failure." And the physician has told him, "If he doesn't get a transplant, he's going to die soon." And so what I thought about was the same phenomenon was going on in her husband. So her husband had juvenile diabetes so he had no insulin and his kidney function is measured by something called creatinine clearance, which is a measure of the filtration ability of the kidneys. So a normal value, a good value is about 120. His value was 0.5. So it was less than 1% of the normal. And he was already on dialysis. He was far down on the transplant list, so it was in effect a death sentence. And I said, I think I know something that might help. And I said you could take high doses of niacin. So niacin has no effect on glucose. So almost every medical practitioner in the world, if you ask them what does insulin do? They'll say it helps to control glucose. Probably less than 1% of them will know it also helps to decrease free fatty acids. But that was my focus of my research, so I knew that. And I said, if you take high doses of niacin, it won't do anything for your husband's glucose, but it'll dramatically decrease his free fatty acids which is probably the thing that's destroying his kidneys. So I told her to give him 500 milligrams three or four times a day. And so this was the first time I'd ever recommended any treatment for any patient. And then I didn't hear anything from her. So I thought either her husband had died or that was the most likely scenario, but I thought maybe she would have come over and told me about it, but she didn't. And so I got extremely agitated wanting to know what happened. And so after about three weeks, I couldn't stand the suspense anymore. And so I slowly started walking up to the front door. And I knew if I saw her crying or something, I would know that he didn't make it. But when she opened the door, she had a big smile on her face. So she said, "I was meaning to come over and tell you, but I've just been so busy, but my husband's completely recovered. So, he recovered so much, his kidney function went completely back to normal, and his kidney doctor told him he didn't, he was taking him off the kidney transplant list because the kidneys were completely functional now." So I felt like a baseball player who has never been in a game before and they put him in the World Series with three men on base and they put him up. He's never swung a bat before and he hits a home run. That was what, so I thought, "Gee, I'm pretty good at knowing how nutritional therapy can be extremely helpful for some people." And I still think that's something that almost no physicians know about, and fatty acids are at high levels are one of the most toxic things there are, that almost nobody pays attention to. And that's one of the things that niacin is very good at doing. It does nothing for, won't affect blood sugar at all, but it has a profound effect on reducing toxic fatty acids.

[10:34] DEB: Wow. So you've spent some decades studying complex chronic conditions. What led you to focus specifically on autism and metabolic abnormalities.

[10:45] WILLIAM: Well. So I guess partly it was that experience I had previously. And what happened was I was working at the Children's Hospital in Kansas City and a colleague of mine had a test for organic acids at the medical school that was across the border just a few miles away. He was a pediatric neurologist and he had a family come to him. It was a mother and two children, and both of the children had severe autism. But they also had other abnormalities as well. They had kidney problems and they also had muscle weakness, extreme muscle weakness that even though they were three or four years old, sometimes they would get out of bed and their legs would just collapse underneath them. And they had been tested at almost every medical center in the United States. Their medical record was about this high. There was... They'd been tested at Johns Hopkins and Mayo Clinic and nobody could find what was causing it. I was originally focused on the severe muscle weakness and actually I didn't find out until later that they also had the severe autism. And so Dr. [Chavez] at the KU Medical Center had a mass spectrometer, but it was an old model and he knew I had a new, fancy, up-to-date model for the time. And so he said, "...

When your body speaks but no one listens, when your pain is dismissed as all in your head, when you're told it's just stress for the fifth time while your health deteriorates, you're not crazy. You're being medically gaslit. Did you know women in America are up to 30% more likely to be misdiagnosed than men? Or that when experiencing a heart attack, women are seven times more likely to be sent home from the ER? This isn't just about feeling heard, it's about survival.

Dr. Deb 0:56

And what if I told you that mysterious symptoms you've been battling for  years have real physical causes, and that you've been overlooked because of your gender?  But I'm pulling back the curtain on one of the most dangerous epidemics in healthcare,  the systemic dismissal of women's health concerns,  and what you can do to finally be seen, supported, and strong. Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic  illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal.  I'm Dr. Deb, and today I'm diving into medical gaslighting and the epidemic of misdiagnosis that affects millions of women.

Dr. Deb 1:41

If you or someone you have been diagnosed with that you love with a chronic condition or are struggling with unexplained neurological symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, numbness, or chronic pain, this episode is for you. So grab a cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you unwind and settle in. Let's get started on your journey to deeper healing.

Dr. Deb 2:03

So today's episode, Silence and Dismissed, Breaking Free from Medical Gaslighting in Women's Healthcare. What if your symptoms aren't your true diagnosis? Today, I'm exploring how women's health concerns are systemically dismissed, misdiagnosed, or undertreated in our current healthcare system. I'll reveal the shocking statistics and historical biases that have created a dangerous epidemic of medical gaslighting.

Dr. Deb 2:36

Many of you know, three years ago, I found myself on the other side of the exam table. After experiencing troubling neurological symptoms, I was diagnosed with MS. And for three years, I lived with that diagnosis, constantly wondering about my future. But recently, in June of 2024, a new MRI revealed something different.

Dr. Deb 3:06

My brain wasn't showing the progressive lesions typically of MS. Instead, my neurologist now believes I experienced post-COVID peripheral neuropathy. Crazy ride, isn't it? I have lesions in my brain. They're not progressing like MS, but they created some damage in my brain.

Dr. Deb 3:30

In October of 2024, I did a brain MRI with a researcher, Dr. Goodenow, who you guys have heard me talk about before. And after being on a protocol that he and I developed together to help my condition, my brain lesions have not only not progressed, but I have increased or grown my gray matter of my brain by 1.4, 1.5. Sorry, I got to give that little extra point in there. This is amazing because as we age, we lose gray matter.

Dr. Deb 4:01

We know that. And up until now, there's really been no way for us to show or even know if we've improved brain health or not. Well, this new MRI technology that he's utilizing has been able to document the protocol that we're doing is actually working and it is growing my brain instead of allowing my brain to shrink with age, which would typically happen.

Dr. Deb 4:30

We are stopping those lesions from progressing. MS or post-COVID peripheral neuropathy, it doesn't really matter what the name of this problem is. The lesions are there.

Dr. Deb 4:43

They're affecting my prefrontal lobe. And I am trying to prevent any consequences or any symptoms that could result of that. So what this journey has taught me is essentially the truth that I share with my patients.

Dr. Deb 4:57

True health lies not in chasing a diagnosis, but in pursuing wellness itself. You know, the statistics around women's healthcare are truly alarming. When a woman enters an emergency room with severe abdominal pain, she'll wait 33% longer than a man with identical symptoms.

Dr. Deb 5:20

Approximately 66% of women report receiving a misdiagnosis in the last two years. Think about that. Two thirds of women are being told that they have conditions they don't actually have.

Dr. Deb 5:35

While their real health issues remain untreated, and the condition that they were told they had either isn't treated at all, or they're given the wrong medication because it's the wrong diagnosis. This is not about incompetent doctors. It's about a system built on incomplete science.

Dr. Deb 5:57

Did you know until the 1990s, women were routinely excluded from medical research and clinical trials? The assumption was that the male body was representative of the human species. So why study women separately? You know, women are not small men. Their bodies function differently at a cellular level.

Dr. Deb 6:20

And even today, this knowledge gap persists. Medical textbooks still primarily focus on how diseases present in men, while women often experience entirely different symptoms. Take heart attacks.

Dr. Deb 6:34

Men typically feel crushing chest pain, while women more commonly experience fatigue and shortness of breath, or pain in the jaw, the neck, the back. And when women feel symptoms that don't match the classic male pattern, they're dismissed, as you've guessed it, anxiety or stress. You're just too overwhelmed with raising your children.

Dr. Deb 6:56

You're burning the candle at both ends. And while some of that may be true, that is not the reason for your symptoms. This misdiagnosis epidemic isn't just frustrating, it's deadly.

Dr. Deb 7:11

It leads to delayed treatments, worsening conditions, unnecessary procedures, and preventable deaths. And for conditions like endometriosis, did you know the average delay in diagnosis is 7 to 10 years? Not months, years. For autoimmune diseases, which affect women at rates up to three times higher than men, that diagnostic journey can span a decade or more.

Dr. Deb 7:42

Now we're going to take a break here and have a word from our sponsor, and we're going to be right back to talk more about medical gaslighting and its roots. Welcome back, everybody. What is medical gaslighting anyway? Well, this happens when health care providers dismiss, minimize, or psychologize physical symptoms.

Dr. Deb 8:09

It's when you're told your debilitating fatigue is just depression, your crushing chest pain is just anxiety, or you're disabling pain. It's got to be all in your head. According to recent surveys, about 72% of the millennial women report experiencing medical gaslighting.

Dr. Deb 8:35

And for women of color, the statistics are even more alarming. While research showing they face compounded biases at every level of care. But why does this happen? The roots run deep, all the way back to ancient Greece, when Hippocrates first used hysteria as a formal diagnosis.

Dr. Deb 8:58

And throughout history, women's bodies have been viewed as mysterious, unpredictable, and fundamentally flawed versions of the male body. What a crock. This bias isn't always conscious.

Dr. Deb 9:16

Even well-meaning doctors operate within a system that has trained them to view women's symptoms through a skeptical lens. And the problem is compounded by several factors. First, there's the knowledge gap.

Dr. Deb 9:30

As Dr. Mark Gordon, a leading expert in neuroinflammation has demonstrated, male and female brains respond differently to identical triggers. The same is true for hormonal systems, immune responses, and even drug metabolism. Yet most medical protocols don't account for these differences.

Dr. Deb 9:53

Second, there's time pressure. The average primary care visit lasts a little longer than you probably think, but just 17 minutes. Barely enough time to address one concern, let alone a complex constellation of symptoms that don't fit neatly into a diagnostic category.

Dr. Deb 10:15

When I see clients for the first time, we're spending well over an hour just having a conversation, and another hour in doing diagnostics in my office, so that we can understand individually what's happening with each client that we see, male or female. A far difference from the 17 minutes. Did you know that practitioners are taught that if someone complains of more than two symptoms, it must be depression or anxiety? That's how our medical system is training these days.

Dr. Deb 10:54

When I was training, it was completely different, and I was blessed to be trained by a pioneer in medicine who was trained even differently than I was, and trained at a time where we didn't have a lot of medications, we didn't have a lot of testing options, so your conversation, your history, your exam had to tell you what was going on with that client. It makes a huge difference today. This is just, I don't know, it's craziness to me at this point.

Dr. Deb 11:25

Thirdly, there's implicit biases. Studies show that healthcare providers of all genders consistently rate women's pain as less severe than men's, even when the reported pain levels are identical. Women are twice as likely to be diagnosed with mental health conditions when presenting with symptoms that suggest a physical cause.

Dr. Deb 11:53

This kind of gaslighting creates a vicious cycle. Women begin to doubt their own experiences, become hesitant to seek care, and lose trust in the medical system. They may stop adv...

Welcome back to another episode of Let’s Talk Wellness Now, and I’m your host, Dr. Deb, and today we’re pulling back the curtain on a topic that barely gets a whisper in conventional medicine. Chronic bladder symptoms, biofilms, and the hidden genetic drivers that keep so many women stuck in a cycle of pain, urgency, and infection that never truly resolves. My guest today is someone who is not only brilliant, but battle-tested, like myself. Dr. Kristen Ryman is a physician, a mom, and the author of Life After Lyme, a book and blueprint that has helped countless people reclaim health after complex chronic illness. After healing herself from advanced Lyme, she has spent her career helping patients recover their most vibrant, resilient selves through her Inner Flow program. Her Healing Grove podcast, her membership community, and her deep dive work on bladder biofilms and stealth pathogens. And what I love about Kristen is that she teaches from lived experience. In 2022, she suffered a stroke. And not only survived it, but rebuilt her brain, resolved lateral strabismus, restored balance, and regained her ability to multitask That journey uncovered her own genetic predisposition to clotting, the very same patterns she sees in her chronic bladder patients. And that personal revelation ultimately led to her Introducing this groundbreaking work that we’re talking about today. So let’s get into it, because bladder biofilms, clotting genetics, stealth pathogens, and real recovery is the conversation women have been needing for decades. And we’ll get started. Where did this one go? There we go. Alright, so welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I have Dr. Kristen with me, and I am so excited to talk to her for multiple reasons. A, she’s got a fabulous story, and B, she’s an expert in a topic that nobody’s talking about, and I want to learn from her, too. So, welcome to the show.

Kristin Reihman 3:07

Thank you! I’m so happy to be here, Dr. Deb.

Dr. Deb 3:10

Thank you. Well, let’s dive right in, because we have so much to talk about, and you and I could probably talk for hours. So, let’s dive into this conversation, and tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got involved in this.

Kristin Reihman 3:23

Well, I mean, like so many people, I think, on this path, I had, had to learn it the hard way. You know, I had to find my way into a mystery illness, a complex, mysterious set of symptoms that sort of didn’t fit the… the sort of description of what, you know, normal doctors do, and even though I was a normal doctor for many years, nothing I’d been trained in could help me when I was really debilitated from Lyme disease back in 2011, 20212, 2023. And so I kind of had to crawl my way out of that, using all the resources at my disposal, which, you know, started out with a lot of ILADS stuff, you know, a lot of the International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society, resources online, found some Lyme doctors, and then my journey really quickly evolved to sort of, like, way far afield of normal Western medicine, which is what my training is in you know, I think within a year of my diagnosis, I was, like, you know, at a Klingheart conference, and learning all sort of, you know, the naturopathic approach to Lyme, and really trying to heal my body and terrain, and heal the process that had led me to become so, so ill from, you know. A little bacteria.

Dr. Deb 4:29

Yeah. Yeah, same here. Like, I’ve been an ILADS practitioner for over 20 years, and when I got sick with Lyme, I was like… how did I not realize this? And I knew I had Lyme before I even was ILADS trained, but when I got really sick and got diagnosed with MS, I never thought about Lyme or mycotoxins or any of that, because I was too busy, head down, doing what I’m doing, helping people. And I, too, had to take that step back, not just physically, but more spiritually and emotionally, and say, how did my body get this sick? Like, what was I doing, and what was I not doing? That allowed this to happen, and now look at this from a healing aspect of not just the physical side, but that spiritual-emotional side as well.

Kristin Reihman 5:13

Totally. I have the same… I have the same realization as I was coming out of it. I was like, wow, this wasn’t just about, sort of, physically what I was doing and not doing. There was something spiritual here as well for me, and I… I feel like it really was a wake-up call for me to get on the path that I’m supposed to be on, the path that I’m on now, really, which is stepping away from the whole medicine matrix model and moving into, you know, working with really complex people. Listening to their bodies, understanding intuition, understanding energy, understanding all these different pieces that doctors just aren’t trained to look at.

Dr. Deb 5:46

Right? We don’t have time to learn everything, right? Like, you have time to learn the body and the medical side of things, and that’s a whole prism of itself, but then learning the spiritual energy medicine, that’s a completely different paradigm. That’s a full-time learning aspect, and it’s so different than what we learn in conventional medicine.

Kristin Reihman 6:04

Yeah, it’s a complete health system. Like, it’s a complete healthcare system.

Dr. Deb 6:10

Yes, and nobody takes it that seriously, but I, for myself, I’ve been spiritual healing for decades, and it wasn’t until I got really sick that I dived deeper into that and looked at what is it in this world that I’m owning, what belongs to generational things that were brought to me from childbirth and other generations in my family that I’m carrying their old wounds. And how do I clear some of that so that it’s not still following me? And then how do I help my kids so that they don’t have to carry what I brought forth? And it’s just… a lot of people, that may sound crazy, but that’s the kind of stuff that we need to be looking at if we want to truly heal.

Kristin Reihman 6:54

Yeah, and I think it’s also, it’s inspiring, you know, because when people… and I would tell this to my patients with Lyme and these sort of mystery illnesses, like, look, you are on this path for a reason, and this is going to teach you so much that you didn’t necessarily want to learn, but you need to learn. And this… nothing that you learn or change about your lifestyle or the way in which you move through the world is gonna make you a worse person. Like, it’s only gonna sort of up-level you. You know, it’s gonna up-level your diet, and your sleep habits, and your relationships, and your toxic thinking, like, it’s all gonna change for you to get better, and that’s… that’s a gift, really.

Dr. Deb 7:27

It really is, and I tell people the same thing. Like, we can look at this as… something that’s happening to us, or we can look at this as something that’s happening for us. And that’s how I looked at my MS diagnosis. This was happening for me, not to me. I wasn’t going to be the victim. And you have a very similar story, so tell us a little bit about your story and what kind of catapulted you into this in 2022.

Kristin Reihman 7:52

Well, by 2022, I was, like, 10 years out of my Lyme hole, and I had been seeing patients, you know, I had opened my own practice, and I was working for another company, seeing, families who have brain-injured children. I was their medical director, still am, actually. And so I was doing a patchwork of things, all of which really fed my soul. You know, all of which felt like this is, like, me, aligned with my purpose on the planet. And so, based on a lot of my thinking, I sort of figured, okay, well, I’m good now, right? Like, I’m on my path now, like, the universe is not going to send another 2×4. And then the universe sent another 2×4. And in 2022, I had an elective neck surgery. You kind of still see the little scar here for my two-level ACDF. Because I had crazy off-the-hook arm pain for, like, a year and a half that I just finally became, like, almost like it felt like I was developing fasciculations and fiery, fiery pain, and I just got the surgery, and the pain went away. But when I woke up, I was different. I didn’t have a voice. Which is a common side effect, actually, of that surgery that resolves after a few months, and in many cases, and mine did. But I also didn’t have, normal balance anymore, and my right eye turned out a little bit, and I couldn’t multitask. And my job is all about multitasking. As you know, with very complex people in front of you, you’re hearing all these pieces of their story, and you’re kind of categorizing it, and thinking about where they fit, and you’re making a plan for what to work up, and you’re making a plan for what to wait until next time. It’s like all these pieces, right? You’re in the matrix. And I… I couldn’t hold those pieces anymore. And I didn’t realize that until I went back to work a couple months after my, surgery, because my voice came back and was like, okay, well, now I’m going back to work. And then I realized, I can’t do simple math. In fact, I can’t remember what this person just said to me, unless I read my note, and I can’t remember taking that note. What is going on? And so I had a full workup, and indeed, I had some neurological deficits that didn’t show up on an MRI, so they must have been quite tiny. Possibly were even low-flow, you know, episodes during my surgery when my blood pressure drops really low with the medicines that you’re on for surgery. But I, basically had, like, a few mini strokes, and needed to recover from that. So that was sort of the… that was the 2×4 in 2022.

Dr. Deb 10:09

Wow. So, what are, what are some of the things that you learne...

Speaker 1 6:33I spent time delving into therapies that in some ways were controversial and not widely accepted. I focused on reversing MS symptoms with methods that emphasize the whole body, treatments that look at infections, nutrient deficiencies, mitochondrial function and even emotional healing. And I’m thrilled to share that this journey has been truly transformative. I can sit here with you today and say I feel stronger, more vibrant and more committed than ever to this path. So where does that leave us? What’s the next step for let’s talk wellness now. Let me tell you, I am more excited than ever about the direction that we’re taking. Moving forward, this podcast will be bringing you deeper, more detailed conversations about health. We’ll be diving into cutting edge topics, many of which you may not hear in mainstream, and that’s by design. My goal is to bring you information that can empower you, topics that are evidence based yet bold topics like mitochondrial health, stem cell therapy, advanced hormone therapies and strategies for managing chronic conditions like autoimmune disease, our episodes will still feature relevant guests, experts and practitioners who are doing groundbreaking work in their fields. I’ve been inspired by people like Dr. Dan Gooden now who are on the forefront of health research, and I want to bring that kind of inspiration and depth to you, but I’ll also be guiding you through solo episodes where we’ll explore some of these powerful health strategies step by step. I want each episode to give you actionable insights, whether it’s a new perspective on familiar health issues or an entirely new tool that you can apply to your life. Let’s talk wellness now will be about more than just listening. It’ll be about learning and implementing real solutions. And I want to emphasize this. Let’s talk wellness now is not just a podcast. It’s a community. It’s a space for like minded people to learn, explore and ask questions, and I want you to feel empowered to take charge of your health journey. If my journey has taught me anything, it’s that knowledge and empowerment are everything. So whether you’re tuning in for information on cutting edge treatments or seeking encouragement on your own health path, you’ll find it here. We’ll tackle question like, what’s the science behind using peptides for immune support? How can mitochondrial health influence chronic disease, and what role does our emotional and mental health play in physical healing? We’re going to get into the details, the real nitty gritty of wellness, and make sense of what truly helps the body heal. I invite you to join me as we move forward in this new chapter. Each episode will be designed to inspire, inform and. Hopefully empower you. I’m honored to be back with all of you and more committed than ever to sharing what I’ve learned, both as a practitioner and as someone who has been on my own healing journey. So as we relaunch, let’s talk wellness now I want to thank you again. Thank you for your patients, for your loyalty and for your belief in this work together, we’re going to keep uncovering the truths about health and wellness that everyone deserves to know. So stay tuned for next, next week’s episode where we’ll dive into the common misdiagnosis in healthcare, and remember, you’re not alone on this journey. We’re in this together.

Do not miss these highlights:

03:31 Sandy’s story and how she got started in this journey

08:48 How medicine fails many people

10:33 The struggles of benzo withdrawal

13:37 It will take time for the brain to repair

15:24 We can balance the brain normally with patients who are not on any medications or have no previous medication use

17:11 Genetics is huge – it makes all the difference in the world 

17:39 Labs is going to give a really good picture of what the brain needs for support, or what the detox pathways need for support

18:18 A lot of things clear up when the brain is calm and state

18:56 Unfortunately, so many of us have bad detox genes and poor pathways, and we’re exposed to all these chemicals that are everywhere in our environment

21:57 You can’t just look at one gene, you have to look at the entire pathway and run some labs

23:25 Labs is like a window into the body. Without labs, you’re just guessing

26:43 When it comes to creating supplement protocols, we want to see what the body needs to heal in the right form for the body

29:35 5g is going to damage cells beyond an ability for us to repair, it if we’re not careful

31:02 It’s not just about the chemical and the toxin exposure, we have to reduce all levels of stress

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Sandie Gascon is an Integrative Healing Practitioner, Author of Heal Yourself and Founder of The Integrative Healing Academy. She is a pioneer who is changing the shape of healthcare and has helped guide thousands of people from over twenty-five countries on their healing journey. After suffering severe side effects from medications during her twenty-year battle with chronic migraines, when she was diagnosed with Lupus she committed herself to healing naturally. Through her experiences, she developed a whole body, mind, and spirit approach that addresses the person in a truly holistic manner. She takes the guess work out of the equation by running functional lab work to see what the body needs. She healed herself of migraines, depression, lupus, interstitial cystitis, and cystic acne. Her purpose is to help educate others on the importance of shifting focus to rebuilding and rebalancing the body and removing internal and external stress so the body can heal itself. 

Sandie lives in Ontario, Canada, for the summer and spends the winters in central Florida with her husband Eric and son Kaiden. She has a passion for riding horses and spends much of her free time at the barn with her horses Bee, Jack and Vala. She loves playing with Kaiden, spending time with family and friends and hiking with her dogs. 

www.sgintegrativehealing.com

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/motivated2heal

Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/motivated2heal

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sandie.gascon/

Do not miss these highlights:

02:29 Not every person can get off thyroid medication, 

12:48 How Gin got on this journey of a clean eating diet and linked it to hypothyroidism.

17:47 Why doesn’t the same diet work for other women?

22:34 Accountability needs to come in when it comes to losing weight

26:14 With every single decade, your body’s changing,  your body shape is changing. But it doesn’t mean that you cannot be in your best shape. 

31:22 Whatever comes in the box (processed food), put it back! 

32:53 Well cooked over raw for leafy vegetables.

34:42 Whatever it takes,  your health is your number one priority. 

38:59 A lot of people that have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism have questions that need to be answered, but nobody has time for that.

43:32 If you don’t like the answers you’re getting, seek the care of someone else. You don’t have to stay, find somebody else.47:53  If you don’t want to take medications, that means you have to follow a strict diet and really work on your diet, because it’s going to be nutritional support versus medication support. 

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

I’m Gintare and I’m Certified Ketogenic Wellness and nutrition coach. All my life I was interested in nutrition and always have been a healthy eater. I’m that type of person who never orders take away or buys precooked meals. As I moved to another country to live in my early 20s. I discovered different cultures with different types of cuisines. Also I started to notice that by tasting and trying new food I started to gain weight.This was something new to me and I started to go deeper into the nutrition side. This is where my true passion was born and I end up focusing on. I need it to understand what I need to do to stop my weight gain. And in the last few years my world was shaken when I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and as a side effect I started to gain weight, it was hard for me to control it considering I am a nutritionist coach. It took a while to figure out what was working and how I maintained it. So now I’m on the mission to help women with their weight loss who’ve been affected by hypothyroidism.

https://www.ketogenic-wellness.com

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Transcript of Episode 181

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb and today we’re going to talk about how diet can overcome hypothyroidism. You know, thyroid is such a big problem for many women, men more or sorry, women more than men. And as we age, that problem tends to get worse and worse. And so many of us are looking for a solution to getting off medication. Now, I have been a proponent for many years with my clients to say, if you’ve been on medication for 20, 30, 40 years, unfortunately, the likelihood of you getting off medication is very slim. Does that mean that it can’t happen? It depends really, you know, I after our last episode on thyroid, I had some clients get upset with me that I’ve told them, there’s no way to get off of medication. And here’s the reality. For some people, there’s been so much damage done to the thyroid, that the thyroid just no longer functions. And you’ll know that because you’re coming down on the medication and your TSH starts to rise. And you start to have symptoms, weight gain, water retention, bloating, fatigue, brain fog, things like that. When that occurs, it really does not matter how much diet nutrition supplementation you do, you will always need some amount of thyroid, it may not be as much as you’re used to. Because with a clean diet, we typically need less thyroid. And that’s always a good thing, the smaller amount of any medication that we can get away with the better. But what I want listeners to understand is that when we’re talking about nutrition and lifestyle changes, to heal the thyroid, you still should do these things, whether you’re taking medication or not. I understand the goal is to get off medication, I would love to see everyone be able to do that if possible. But in all honesty, the reality is not every person can get off thyroid medication, again, because there’s just too much damage done to that thyroid, and it doesn’t work anymore. So I may sound kind of crabby about this. But I want people to truly understand what it is we’re talking about. And I don’t want people to be misled, to think that all of these wonderful topics that we’re talking about are going to fix their thyroid problem 100% Because it may not, but it will make the communication from the brain to the thyroid work that much better. You will have better weight loss, you will have better sleep, you will have better cognitive function, you will have better mood. All of these things are things that we want to have in our life, whether we’re on thyroid medication or not, probably the biggest concern that I hear from people is I’m on thyroid medication, but I still don’t feel any better. That is because of all these other things that need to happen along with being on the thyroid medication. Now, one of the other complaints that I’ve heard from my clients about doing these podcasts is why don’t you teach us these things when we’re in with you in an exam room?

Debra Muth 3:54Well, here’s the reality. Ladies and gentlemen, this is why I do these podcasts. If you listen to an hour of this podcast, and us talking about all the lifestyle changes, all the dietary changes all the supplementation that we’re doing, I could talk about that in the exam room with a client and I can share all of that with you. However, in doing that, we don’t get to address your individualized needs and purposes for being in my office, unless you have a two or three hour visit, which most people don’t have time to do. That is why we created let’s talk wellness now, so that we could share this information in a different fashion. Without you having to pay my time to teach you that you get this information for free. You get to consume it multiple times. You get to hear it over and over again as often as you need it. You get to hear other people’s opinions. You get to hear my opinion. You get to hear what we’ve seen work what other people have seen work, and I think it’s a better utilization. for education, yes, we will teach you the main things in your appointment with us. But I can’t spend hours like I get to spend here and serve you the way you want to be served first. So for those of you who are upset with me, that you’re hearing information like this for the first time, again, I apologize. However, there is a reason to the information we discussed with you in your exam. And there’s a reason we put this information out today, for you to consume and hear. And for those of you who are not upset, I appreciate that. And I appreciate all the support you’ve given me, and the encouragement you’ve given me to go forward with creating, let’s talk wellness now and this platform to share knowledge and ideas with you. Because it’s so important for us to be able to share all the different pieces of what we’re doing in health and wellness education. So again, thank you for all your support. Thank you for being there for me. And I hope everyone understands why it is we produce what it is and how we produce that. So without any further delay, I would like to talk to our guests today with Gintare, I think I said her name wrong. And she’ll correct me for sure. But we’re gonna talk about hypothyroidism and how to overcome this. And she is a certified ketogenic wellness and nutrition coach. And her entire life, she’s been interested in nutrition in ways to be healthier, and eating a better diet. And she’s also the type of person that never orders take away or buys pre cooked meals. So this will be an interesting conversation. She has currently moved to another country to live in in her early 20s and discover different cultures, different types of cuisine, and also started to notice that by tasting and trying new foods, she started to have weight gain, does that sound so familiar to so many of us, and she had never suffered from weight issues before. So she started to dig deeper into nutrition and find what was causing the problem for her. And this is where her true passion was born. To focus on healthy eating, and to stop her weight gain. And so many of us can relate to that so many of us are in that pattern of it doesn’t matter what we eat, it doesn’t matter how we exercise, it doesn’t matter what we take, the scale just continues to either go up or not budge at all. And then we get frustrated, we give in, we eat the things that we shouldn’t eat, which creates a lot of inflammation for us. And that inflammatory weight gain can be just as bad as any other weight gain. And I’m here to tell you, I’m right there with you. I’m in the same boat. I’ve never had a weight problem in my life.

Debra Muth 8:13Until I wen...

Dr. Deb 0:01welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness now. I’m your host, Dr, Deb, and I’m so thrilled to have you with me today. If you’ve been searching for answers to mysterious health issues, whether they’re unexplained fatigue, brain fog or persistent headaches, then today’s the episode for you. We’re diving into a silent epidemic that’s affecting millions of people around the world, but often goes unnoticed. Mycotoxins and mold illness, these sneaky little saboteurs can hide in your home, your workplace and even your body, silently undermining your health in ways you might never have imagined. As serenity Healthcare Center, we specialize in uncovering these hidden causes of chronic disease, and today, I’m bringing that expertise directly to you. We’ll explore what mycotoxins are, how they wreak havoc on your body and especially your brain, and most importantly, what you can do to heal. So stick around to the end of this episode, because I’ll share a powerful case study that shows just how life changing it can be to uncover and treat mold illness, plus I’ll give you actionable tips to protect yourself and your loved ones. So grab a cup of tea, get cozy, and let’s talk wellness now. So what are mycotoxins and why? Honestly, should we care about them? Let’s start with the basics. Mycotoxins are toxic chemicals produced by certain types of mold. These aren’t just molds you see growing on food or in damp corners of your bathroom. These are microscopic airborne particles that can infiltrate your home, your body and even your brain. Now, mycotoxins have no odor to them, so often times you have no clue that they’re even present. Molds like Aspergillus and Stachybotrys, commonly known as black mold and Penicillium produce these toxins, and when you inhale, ingest, or even touch them, they can cause serious health problems. And the scary part, you don’t need to see the mold to be affected by it. I remember when I was suffering with mycotoxin illness. A few years ago, I was doing some gardening, and I was pulling weeds, and I didn’t have any problems ever in the garden, and all of a sudden I broke out in hives, and I couldn’t understand what was happening, because I knew I didn’t get exposed to anything that I was allergic to. But it was every time I went outside to garden, I would break out in hives, and it didn’t matter if I had long sleeves on, it didn’t matter if I had gloves on, I would be covered in hives within about 30 minutes of gardening. And I really thought my gardening days were over, but it was when I found out that I was colonized in the nasal passages with mold that I learned that was what was causing my reaction to being in the garden. It wasn’t that I was allergic to something, it was the mold that was there that I was disrupting that was creating a histamine response in my body and causing me to have this allergic response, or at least what seemed like an allergic response, and these hives would last for weeks, and they were so itchy. Oh my gosh, I remember how terrible they were, and there was nothing I could do, Benadryl, hydrocortisone cream, none of it worked. None of the oral stuff worked. Even prednisone really didn’t touch it, and it was so intense. But when I got the mycotoxins out of my nasal passages and got the mold out of the nasal passages and started to clear my body, I could suddenly go back out to gardening again and not have any problems with it. So it is a huge response, and it is part of what triggers mast cell activation syndrome for people, or what we call MCAS, which is a histamine reaction. So anyway, I digress. But why should you care about mold or mycotoxin illness? Well, mycotoxins are linked to some of the most debilitating health issues, neurological conditions like brain fog, migraines, depression and unfortunately, even neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, MS, they can all cause hormonal imbalances, chronic fatigue and immune system dysfunction. It’s not uncommon for us to see people who are sick with mycotoxin illness have hormonal disruptions, where their estrogen levels and progesterone levels are falling well before menopause, where men have testosterone levels that look like 80 years old and they’re only 30 or 40.

Dr. Deb 5:00This can become a real problem when you’re young, and you’re losing your hormones at such an early age, because that loss of hormones can add to other illnesses down the road, like osteoporosis and more cognitive issues. We know that there’s a decline of hormones from traumatic brain injury that can lead to early onset menopause, which can also then lead to triggering neurological diseases. And if traumatic brain injury does this well, mycotoxin illness or mold illness is just a non traumatic brain injury, and this is very well documented and known in the literature, that these things can create many, many complications. Now, have you ever felt like your health was on a roller coaster, like no matter what you do, you can’t get better? Well, mycotoxins might be the hidden culprit, because mold isn’t just a nuisance, it’s a silent saboteur, quietly undermining your health.

Dr. Deb 6:01Now here’s where it really gets fascinating and honestly frightening. Mycotoxins don’t just make you sneeze or give you a rash like they did in my condition. They cross the blood brain barrier and attack your nervous system. And when mycotoxins reach the brain, they can cause inflammation in the brain, which disrupts the way the neurons communicate, leading to brain fog, memory issues and difficulty concentrating. They damage our neurotransmitters. These are the chemical messengers in your brain responsible for mood, energy and focus. If you want to learn more about this, go back and check out our episode that we did on neurotransmitters, mycotoxins can disrupt dopamine and serotonin, contributing to depression and anxiety. They mimic other diseases. These mycotoxins are really sneaky, and they can create symptoms that look like multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia and even chronic fatigue syndrome, making it incredibly hard to be diagnosed properly. One of the most understood effects of mycotoxins is their impact on the pituitary gland, a small but mighty gland in your brain that controls all of your hormones. When this gland is compromised, you might experience unexplained weight gain, fatigue and even fertility issues. This is crazy to think that this chemical, this mold that we take for granted, that we know is everywhere that people don’t take seriously, can damage our pituitary gland and damage our hormonal function and give us symptoms like MS and fibromyalgia, but yet nobody’s really talking about it in the conventional world, and nobody’s looking at it in the conventional world. This is crazy to me, and I wonder how many people have been misdiagnosed with these types of conditions simply because they’re living in or have been exposed to an environment that had mold at one time that the mycotoxins are still present and they just haven’t left the environment. Now, have you or someone you love ever been misdiagnosed or felt like the diagnosis didn’t quite fit well. This is why we need to dig deeper and ask the right questions. I was diagnosed with MS in December of 2022

Dr. Deb 8:30in my world, I know that MS is usually something else, until proven otherwise, unless you truly have monoclonal antibodies in your spinal tap, if you’re diagnosing ms solely by white matter brain disease on an MRI,

Dr. Deb 8:46I would seek a second opinion, because these toxins that we talk about on the show, these infections that we talk about, all can cause white matter brain disease. They can all cause symptoms that mimic ms Parkinson’s disease, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, all of these things could be explained potentially, and you could get better without having to take drugs that you really don’t want, that you really can’t afford. And if we get to the root cause, we can make things better for you. Now, sometimes the answer isn’t in a pill, it’s in the air you breathe and the environment around you.

Dr. Deb 9:29Now let me share my personal story. Years ago, my husband Dennis and I decided to remodel this quaint little Riverside cottage. It was the dream project until we discovered the mold in the house, there was a roof leak, there was black mold in a closet, there was a foundation leak, there was mold in a bedroom and the bathroom. So we decided to tackle the remediation ourselves, and after six grueling months of.

Dr. Deb 10:00Work, I started to notice some really strange symptoms. My energy was gone. I couldn’t sleep. I was constantly irritable. But the most alarming change was the rapid weight gain. For me. I gained 25 pounds in just two months, for someone who has always been able to eat whatever I want without gaining an ounce. This was shocking. Now I know don’t be mad at me. I can’t help it. I had really good genes at one time for this,

Dr. Deb 10:28but this weight gain happened around the time we started to remediate this home. And as a practitioner, I immediately suspected mold toxicity. I ran tests and discovered my Gliotoxin levels were three times the normal limit. Gliotoxin is a mycotoxin that specifically targets the pituitary gland, which explained a lot of my symptoms.

Dr. Deb 10:52This experience taught me that mold illness doesn’t just affect the body, it impacts the mind, the emotions and even your sense of self. Now, I had worked in another building many years before that that was moldy, and I was there for 10 years, and I knew the building had mold. I could smell it, and I would get sick every time I would go in the building.

Dr. Deb 11:17And I had talked to my partners. They didn’t want to remediate. They didn’t want to d...

Do not miss these highlights:

05:03 –  The traumatic story of Jodi when she lost her daughter, Marley,  due to a car accident 

11:02  – The doctor said she would be in the hospital recovering for 10 months but she’s out in just  four months

13:22 –  There’s a big difference between getting stuck in your diagnosis and trauma versus grief and moving through it

15:20  – What Jodi did to start preparing her body to heal differently than what’s recommended by the doctors and nurses

17:17 – There’s a big difference between pain that is doing you harm and pain that is going to help move you through

19:57  – Knowing what foods would cause the body more pain helped Jodi to survive and heal

22:01 – The alternative knowledge and education that has helped her recover

32:50 – The importance of learning to compartmentalize things, and be able to deal with them a little by little because not everything needs to be dealt with at once

About our Guest:

Since 1996 I have been in the alternative field. It has been a wonderful experience witnessing the changes throughout the decades of that whelm. I am so grateful I was educated on how the body heals before my accident. I needed EVERYTHING in my toolbox so that I could enhance my recovery mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually.

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Facebook Profile: https://www.facebook.com/jodi.sagert.7

Website: https://www.elementsofwellness.org/

Transcription of Episode #147:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Have you ever wondered why sometimes life delivers us a path that we didn’t ask for? One that we wouldn’t have wished for or wished on our worst enemy. A part in our life where everything feels like it’s upside down, and you don’t see a way out. I’m sure all of us have been in that position. At one point or another. We’ve all had our dreams shattered. Whether it’s a big major dream. I remember when my son was in high school, it was his senior year and he was playing football. And he was so excited because he was being evaluated by D one school to play college football. And their very first game of the season, which was a scrimmage game. He was asked to play a different position, he was asked to pay play running back and he was a frontline men. And during that game, somebody hit him just right. And he injured his knee. Now he didn’t just injure his knee, he tore his ACL, MCL LCL, PCL, his knee was gone. And he was 17 years old. And his dream of playing college football, and becoming a coach someday was shattered. And luckily, we had a great surgeon here in Madison that worked for the Madison football team. And he repaired his knee. But he gave him option that day and said, You’re going to have two choices to make. Walk when you’re 40 or play college ball, you get to choose as one of the hardest decisions my son had ever had to make. And it took a long time. But he finally made the decision to walk away from football. It was his love of his life, it was the only thing he knew. And that can certainly be a challenge for all of us. We’ve all had those points in our lives, where those things that happen to us change the decisions that we make, and put us on a different path. And my next guest, Jodie Hardy, is going to talk to us about living that life. When things change. How do we get through the difficult times? How do we rebuild after something shatters us? How do we support ourselves and others who are going through a loss, even when we may not understand the loss or may not understand how they feel or may not see it as a loss to us at all. But to them, it’s a tragedy. So I want to give you this gift today in talking to God and learning how we can walk through this path with not just grace, but with pride and with strength. And without having it completely destroy everything we know. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness out. I have my wonderful guest, Jody Harty with us today. And we are going to talk about an amazing topic for you guys. It is different than what we’ve done in the past. So if you’re listening and you want to view what she’s showing, just go over to YouTube because she’s going to show some slides with us today. But she’s going to also talk you through all of those. So get ready, hunker down and listen in. Jody, welcome to the show.

Jody Harty 4:29Hi, thank you for having me. I’m super excited to be part of your show today. It’s been a long time. We’ve been trying to do this forever, it seems.

Debra Muth 4:38Yes, it has been and you know, crazy times busy lives, but I’m so glad we were able to connect today.

Jody Harty 4:45Yes, absolutely.

Debra Muth 4:47So Jody, tell us your story. You have a trauma story, that you’re trying to get out to the world so people understand and know how to navigate things and how to protect themselves, but also how to heal as well.

Jody Harty 5:03Yeah, um, so it was three and a half years ago. It’ll be well, almost four, and it’ll be four in February. So 2018 I was supposed to be going to see my husband in Fort McMurray, because that’s four hours away. He worked out of town. And we just had a massive snowstorm. And I was really worried about the roads. And I talked to my husband Mike about this. And he said, The roads were fine. They were dry and clear. And he was a manager of a trucking company back then. So he was an expert at assessing road conditions. And he was an expert at knowing my driving capabilities. And he wasn’t worried. So February 3, came, got into our vehicle. My daughter and I were super excited to go and we called Mike and Marley piped up and said, Daddy, are you excited to see your favorite four year old little girl? Because she had three sisters. So she knew she had to make the distinction here. And he said, I sure am sweetheart. And they ended the phone call saying how much they loved one another. And they said goodbye. She was so excited afterwards. She was wiggling and giggling in her seat like little kids do little four year olds do because she had a surprise for him. She was wearing overalls. And her dad loved overalls, but they were for boys. She never wore overalls. But she found this pair and she loved them. So she was wiggling and giggling and super excited. The next thing I knew I was leaning over hunched over my steering wheel, knowing not to move. I heard a man’s voice and I said call my husband call my husband. But inside I thought I can’t hear Marley. I don’t know how she is. But I can’t hear Marley. I heard my voice. And I asked him Mike, is it Saturday? Yes, it is sweetheart. Where are we coming to see you? Yes, your honey. Mike can hear Marley. I don’t know how she is. I can’t hear Marley. The next thing I knew I was waking up. And a mother’s heart knows when something is wrong. And I was intubated. Couldn’t talk, but they gave me a pen and paper. And I would write husband, Marley girls, and then we get all the answers except for Marley. Finally, after three days of trying to keep me in a chemically induced coma, they realized that I was having none of that. And I needed to be told. So on the third day, Mike lovingly sat beside me. He couldn’t even lay his hand on the bed because I could feel the vibration of people’s breathing through my shattered bones. And he told me that Marley had died instantly on impact. So this is Marley. She was our little dancer and she loved Poppy. And that was the last Halloween that she was alive. They told me that I would be in the hospital recovering for 10 months. I told them they were wrong. I mean, I had had clients with knee and hip replacements and they were fine after six weeks. I actually only had broken bones like I was in the alternative field for 24 years prior. I was a massage practicing massage therapist at the time. I knew my anatomy, I knew how the body works, you know, broken bones, six weeks, you’re done, you’re healed. I have titanium rods and all of my long bones from the hips down. I had multiple compound fractures of the right tibia and a shattered fibula. My left femur had multiple complete breaks. And again, shattered fibula shattered tibia.

Jody Harty 9:42I needed external structures to hold me together before I was stable for my first surgeries. So not only was I recovering from the injuries of the accident, but I was also recovering from the injuries of the surgeries that were keeping me stable. So in these images, you will See that the first one is the metal rods that they screwed into me to keep me in place. And then on the I think it is my right, I hope it’s not reversed for you guys, you will see the femoral head, and you’ll see that it’s nearly snapped right off. So all of the impact of that accident because my foot was on the brake just went right up like like, accordion just No. I now am titanium. I have titanium rods in all of my bones, except for my left tibia, I have that plate removed or right before COVID in February 2020, you’ll see that I have a bilateral hip plate now that holds that femur in place. So I’ve got limited mobility now. But the thing here, ...

Do not miss these highlights:

05:33 Dr. Cowden’s transition from allopathic medicine to a natural approach – the herbal world.

08:57 How detoxifying toxic emotions could lead to healing and make you healthy again.

11:32 The benefits of understanding perception versus reality. 

14:00 The Magnet Therapy.

20:14 Where to find quality herbal products.

27:05 How to find out about herbal supplements.

28:34 Chinese herbs – One of the best herbal supplements.

32:58 Ways to prevent the clots from causing disability, strokes, heart attacks and death.

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Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

W. Lee Cowden, MD, MD(H), is Chairman of the Scientific Advisory Board; Professor of the Academy of Comprehensive Integrative Medicine (www.ACIMconnect.com ). He has been a USA board-certified cardiologist; internist and a licensed homeopathic medical doctor, but recently retired in 2019 from patient care and is now teaching full-time. He has been studying integrative medicine on his own since he was in medical school at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston in 1975-78 and while doing internal medicine residency and cardiology; critical care fellowship at St. Louis University Hospital Group from 1978-84. Dr. Cowden has co-authored six books, contributed to several other books and is internationally known for his knowledge and skill in practicing; teaching integrativemedicine. He has pioneered successful treatments for cancer, Lyme disease, atherosclerosis, cardiomyopathy, various neurological conditions, silicone implant disease and many other illnesses, but he gives credit to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the ultimate source of all healing.

www.DrLeeCowden.com

Transcript of Episode 179

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. I’m excited today for you guys to meet Dr. Lee Cowden. I’ve known Dr. Cowden for over 20 years and I’ve had the pleasure of working with him at standard process, which is a nutraceutical company here in Wisconsin, and I’ve learned so much from him over the years. Today we’re going to have a conversation about herbs and chronic infection. Dr. Cowden is a medical doctor. He is the chairman of Scientific Advisory Board professor of Academy of comprehensive integrative medicine. And he has been a US board-certified cardiologist internist and licensed homeopathic medical doctor recently retired in 2019 from patient care, and is now teaching full-time. He’s been studying integrative medicine on his own since he was in medical school at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston in 1975 through 1978 and while doing his internal medicine, residency and cardiology critical care fellowship at St. Louis University Hospital from 1974 to 1984. He’s going to tell us his story about why he no longer practiced allopathic medicine after that residency and fellowship. Dr. Cowden has co authored six books, contributed to several other books and is internationally known for his knowledge and skill in practicing teaching integrative medicine. And he has pioneered successful treatments for cancer, Lyme disease, arterial screw sclerosis, cardiomyopathy, and various neurological conditions, including things like silicone implant disease, but he gives credit to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as the ultimate source of all healing. This conversation that Dr. Cowden and I are about to have is very candid and has some great information for people who are looking to heal and protect themselves from what’s happening in the world around us today with viruses and bacterial infections, and how to evaluate proper nutraceuticals to know whether or not they’re actually going to work for you. So I hope you stay tuned. Listen in Dr. Cowden is amazing I’ve learned from him for many years. And he is just a pleasure to have a conversation with. So stay tuned right after this message from our sponsor. We’re going to be back with Dr. Lee Caldon. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care. center.com Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have with me Dr. Lee Cowden, who I have admired for years. I worked with him at standard process many many years ago. And today we’re going to talk about herbs, how to find quality herbs, what to look for, and what kind of herbs you can use on a regular basis to keep yourself healthy. Lee, welcome to the show.

Dr. Lee Cowden 4:34Great to be with you.

Debra Muth 4:37So Dr. Cowden. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Dr. Lee Cowden 4:40Well, I’m a medical doctor, got my medical degree at the University of Texas Houston. Did the internship residency in two fellowships at St. Louis University Hospital group in St. Louis. And practice many years. You but but only one year with allopathic medicine After one year of allopathic medicine, I said, this is not for me, I gotta do something else.

Debra Muth 5:05So, to figure that one out,

Dr. Lee Cowden 5:08yeah, I’d already been studying integrative medicine from 1975 until 1986, when I made that decision. And so I already had experience with using natural medicine on myself, my family, my friends. And so I didn’t feel uncomfortable expanding that to the use with my patients.

Debra Muth 5:31Wonderful. So when you transitioned from allopathic medicine to a more natural approach, did you go into practice for a while? Or did you go right into teaching?

Dr. Lee Cowden 5:42I went into allopathic medicine with a fellow that went through the training institution at the same time, for one year, one year. And we set up a critical care cardiology combined practice. And we were on staff at seven hospitals, and we rounded in 11 intensive care units twice a day, every day, for that year. And we were on call every other week, night and every other weekend. And so at the end of the year, I decided several things that said, if I keep this up, it’ll kill me prematurely. I said, if I keep this up, I will not know my wife nor my children. And, and if I continue to continue this, I’m going to be completely miserable. Because I saw that there was so much better way, you know, this was crisis or crisis intervention medicine, intervening at the very end of the stream, you know, we need to be intervening at the very beginning of the stream.

Debra Muth 6:37Yeah, talk about a way to set up for total burnout with physicians and practitioners, right? I mean, there’s no healthy living in in that type of practice at all. And we wonder why we make mistakes in that type of practice. Because there’s, there’s no time there’s no rest, there’s no nothing for people to even take time to think or refuel their bodies or rest or do any of the things that we need to do to stay healthy ourselves to take care of others.

Dr. Lee Cowden 7:04Yep. Yeah.

Debra Muth 7:06Unfortunately, today, that’s that type of practice isn’t much different than allopathic medicine, it’s pretty much the same model.

Dr. Lee Cowden 7:14Yeah, in the training institution, they made it illegal for residents to be on call too many hours out of a week. So that’s, that’s a plus. But I mean, there were times in the training institution when I went 36 hours without sleep. And that’s just crazy. Yeah, you you miss you miss things, you make mistakes, you risk the life of the patients that you’re trying to take care of. Yeah, absolutely.

Debra Muth 7:40So when you left allopathic medicine, I mean, you are an amazing doctor, in the herbal world, in teaching, you’ve gone on to teach, I can only assume 1000s of other practitioners in the herbal world. Tell us about that practice that you’ve been doing for quite a long time. I mean, I’ve known you at least 20 years in the standard process world. So you’ve been doing this a very long time teaching and educating people on a natural approach to life and healthy living and lifestyle.

Dr. Lee Cowden 8:11Yeah, I started learning about first western herbals. And that came 76. And I learned about Eastern articles in 1977. And started applying that in my life and in the life of my family and friends. And when I finally decided that I wasn’t going to stay in allopathic medicine, in 1986, and...

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07:50 We are sometimes comparing ourselves to someone and trying to be like them

10:44 How comparison and self-assessments becomes helpful and not

12:36 How we have been kicking ourselves

16:12 We don’t realize that we’re participating in our own abuse and participating in our own gaslighting

17:37 People pleasing is an important life skill, it exists for a reason but you should know how to do it

18:57 We push ourselves down with the expectation that other people will reciprocate in some way, but then when it doesn’t work, the pendulum swings to the other side

19:35 Outsourcing our satisfaction, our power, our decision making to other people will make  us  powerless  in our own life

21:25 Being a good girl is a learned behavior. Not following that arbitrary set of rules, is also a learned behavior.

23:43 How to change and give yourself permission to do the things you want to do in life now

30:57 We have to be able to do something to make those affirmations happen and we have to be willing to take action to change something inside of us

31:10 How journaling can be beneficial 

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I teach coaches, therapists, healers, and other service-based entrepreneurs how to tune out all the fear-based bullshit that paralyzes them and how to tune in to a fun, fulfilling, fuck-yeah business — without overcomplicating things, making them do things they dread, or burning them all the way the fuck out. I spent almost two decades as a miserable success before deciding to burn it all down to go after what I wanted instead of what the world told me I was allowed to have. I had the house, the husband, the kids (twins!), the careers — all of it. And I still felt like I was slowly being crushed alive by the pressure to do everything and do it all perfectly. It was the perfect trap, and now that I’ve gotten out I’m going back for the others. 

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15:47 How can you figure out what your body type is?

17:21 How do we understand the human body and begin to understand why it’s so many different shapes?

19:21 Can chiropractic care help you with underdeveloped vertebrae?

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23:59 The disadvantages of not having muscle and muscle mass on your body.

27:17 As you get up over age 40, your cellular regeneration process becomes less efficient. 

31:02 What is Scientific Biotype Quiz and where you can take it. 

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Lead scientific researcher at Fellow One Research. I have pioneered Body Type Science (The Four Body Types – genetic scientific body type) since 2003, creating the only Online Worldwide Science-Based Health Community Website which offers the Scientific Body Type Quiz including science-based Metabolism, Diet, Exercise, & Lifestyle Health Score as well as Scientific Weight Loss Programs (Basic and Advanced). Our website offers free public access to the scientific health knowledge base & research data, including science-based diet, exercise, lifestyle, metabolism, BMR, Body Mass Index (BMI), fat, skinny fat (normal weight obesity, cellulite, thin fat, saggy skin, loose skin, crepey skin), obesity, vertebrae & muscles/muscle mass development, and genetics/DNA information. We are the ONLY scientific body types in existence. All other body types are unscientific. There is a direct scientific correlation between body type, skinny fat, excess fat, being overweight, and obesity. Our mission is to help wrangle and overcome the global health crisis including the obesity epidemic. Body Type Science is based on genetics, particularly vertebrae and muscles/muscle mass development (or lack thereof) relative to skinny fat (cellulite, thin fat, loose skin, saggy skin, crepey skin, normal weight obesity) and excess fat (being overweight or obese). It is a scientific/genetic fact that any part of the human body can be underdeveloped, to whatever degree, including vertebrae and muscles/mass. Just as it is a genetic fact that each vertebra houses a specific set of muscles, and muscle(s) directly affect posture and metabolism.

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Welcome to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I am your host, Dr. Deb.

And today, I have the pleasure of meeting with Dr. James Greenblatt. I've known Dr. Greenblatt for a very long time. We, started lecturing together, gosh, over 15 years ago.

And he is an amazing practitioner. Dr. Greenblatt is dual board certified in psychiatry and internationally recognized.

as a pioneer in functional and integrative psychiatry. He's widely regarded as the leading expert on the clinical application of low-dose lithium for mental health.

Dr. Greenblatt has spent more than 30 years advancing precision medicine-based approaches that move beyond symptom management to address the root causes of mental illness.

And after earning his medical degree at George Washington University.

Dr. Greenblatt completed his psychiatry and residency there as a fellow in child and adolescent psychiatry.

Joined John Hopkins Medical School, and he currently serves as an assistant clinical professor of Psychiatry at Tufts University. He is a prolific author. Dr. Greenblatt has written 9 books, including his newest book, Finally Hopeful.

in… available in January of 2026. We can ask him about this today.

And his bestsellers finally focused the breathwork, natural treatment plan for ADHD,

Answers to anorexia, Functional and Integrative Medicine for Antidepressant withdrawal, and nutritional lithium, and Untold tale of Mineral and Transforms Lives, that heals the brain.

He has founded, in 2019, the Psychiatry Redefined, a leading educational platform training clinicians worldwide in functional and integrative psychiatry. He is a sought-after international speaker. Dr. Greenblatt regularly lectures

On nutritional psychiatry and the transformative role of functional medicine.

I am super excited to have him here with us today. This is going to be a pleasure. You guys are going to love this conversation that we are going to have.

And I am going to pick his brain today on functional and integrative psychology and psychiatry, and combining nutrition, biochemistry, and lifestyle with mental health care.

I'm really, really happy to have Dr. Greenblatt with us, so I am going to bring him on, and we are going to have this amazing conversation with my friend.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I'm your host, Dr. Deb, and I have with me Dr. James Greenblatt, who I have followed for… we were just chatting about this for over 20 years.

He is amazing in what he is doing, and we are going to have this conversation today about integrative psychiatry and the future of mental health. So, welcome to the show, Dr. Greenblatt.

James greenblatt md 03:20

Thank you, Dips, good to be with you.

Dr. Deb Muth 03:22

Now, you've been pioneering this integrative psychiatry for decades. What really inspired you to bridge nutrition and psychiatry long before it's become mainstream?

James greenblatt md 03:35

You know, I developed an interest in college, you know, studying nutrition, and then I remember writing papers on orthomolecular psychiatry, high dose, vitamin B3 for schizophrenia.

So, I really did not think I'd be a psychiatrist. I wanted to be a pediatrician when I went to medical school, but, just early interest in nutrition and brain function.

And it's been my career now for 30-plus years.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:05

Wow. Can you define what integrative psychiatry actually means, and how it's different from traditional psychiatry for most people who wouldn't be familiar with that term?

James greenblatt md 04:17

Sure, I mean, I have to add the word functional as well. I mean, I think, you know, I call myself a functional psychiatrist, but for most of my career, and every book, and everything I did, I would have to use words like functional and integrative.

Medicine for mental illness. And, you know, I define integrative medicine as the… Adjunctive lifestyle, mindfulness.

And diet, sleep, and exercise.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:46

Mmm.

James greenblatt md 04:46

And I kind of use the term functional for kind of a deeper root cause dive, looking at nutritional deficiencies, looking at hormones, looking at genetics. And, you know, to treat patients with mental health challenges, we need both integrative and functional medicine.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:05

That's awesome. You know, in our integrative space, we often kind of joke that there's no such thing as a Prozac deficiency, right? Can you explain to our listeners how nutrient deficiencies, gut health, or inflammation can play a role in mental illness?

James greenblatt md 05:23

Sure, I mean, I think the most important

Beginning of this conversation would be that, you know, 10 people with depression, there might be 10 different underlying factors.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:35

Yeah.

James greenblatt md 05:35

And we do know that there's not an antidepressant deficiency, so we have to look deeper. And… and that's,

just different than our current psychiatry model, where it's just symptomatic-based medicine. Everyone who's depressed.

It's an antidepressant.

And by looking at functional integrative medicine, we're looking at B12 and vitamin D and zinc and magnesium. We're looking at hormones, we're looking at the gut, and we're trying to determine what might be either causing or contributing to that person's depression.

Dr. Deb Muth 06:10

Is there a particular,

flavor that you see more commonly with others, like depression versus anxiety versus bipolar. Is there a particular underlying factor that you see more commonly than others?

James greenblatt md 06:27

Well, the short answer is no, and that's why this work takes time, because you have to think.

You know, every patient that walks in the office is different. I mean, I think the overarching umbrella is nutritional deficiencies, you know, whether… regardless of weight, regardless of diet. I mean, I have people coming in who've been eating…

You know, these ketogenic or paleo diets, you know, perfect organic foods, and are profoundly nutritionally deficient.

So I think nutritional deficiencies would be number one, and then, you know, the whole host of, you know, infections and hormone problems and inflammatory issues related to celiac disease is really common in the mental health space that's ignored.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:14

Yeah. Celiac disease is really not paid attention too much, other than thinking that it's damaging the gut. They don't really think about all the other aspects of the body that are being affected by the gut not being able to absorb the nutrients properly and then utilize them properly. It's really sad.

James greenblatt md 07:34

we find out… and there's research to support it. That's the tragedy. This is not something, as clinicians, that we found. We have many, many years of research showing high rates of anxiety and depression,

you know, amongst those with, celiac disorder because of this chronic malnutrition, and many patients present without any GI symptoms, just mental health complaints, but nobody's looking at celiac.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:02

Yeah. You know, I'm sure there's people that are listening to us thinking, there's no way that

Everybody who's depressed or anxious has a nutritional deficiency. When we're… live in a country where there's so much abundance of food, and the obesity rates are high, and most people are very plump, how could those people be deficient in nutrients? What do you say to people who think like that?

James greenblatt md 08:28

Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, we have,

what's called high caloric malnutrition, so regardless of weight,

I would say the vast majority of patients with a mental health issue

I would say my best guess would be 90-plus percent.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:47

Wow.

James greenblatt md 08:47

We would find nutritional deficiencies.

Dr. Deb Muth 08:51

And part of this, we've discovered, is genetics.

James greenblatt md 08:56

People having, kind of, genetic needs for Higher amounts of certain micronutrients.

Some of it is just the kinds of foods people are eating. The kind of ultra-processed food actually strips the body of micronutrients.

So, it is just so common, and many of these tests are pretty simple that your primary care doctor could do in the office.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:22

So, traditional labs can identify some of these nutritional deficiencies. They don't necessarily have to invest thousands of dollars in advanced nutrient testing to find these things out.

James greenblatt md 09:35

Absolutely. I mean, I think, you know, oftentimes when we're working with a patient who has failed traditional psychiatric treatment, we do need some functional, testing, but

I'm quite convinced we could change the trajectory of our mental health epidemic in this country by some labs that are covered by every insurance company on the planet. Like, people think of vitamin D as, you know, building bones or immune function.

It has dramatic relationships to mental health problems, demonstrated over 30 years of research. So vitamin D and B12 and folate, all simple blood tests that are covered by all health insurances.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:18

You know, with the change of genetics, MTHFR is so popularly known these days. It's probably the most popular genetic mutation that people know of.

And in the mental health space, it plays a significant role as well in that absorption of B12 and folat

What are the answers to your child's chronic allergies, ADHD, or autism?

weren't just in another prescription, but in restoring balance to their body chemistry. Today's guest has spent nearly two decades uncovering those answers through integrative and biomedical medicine. That's a mouthful, isn't it?

Helping children heal when nothing else seemed to work.

This is the conversation about science, compassion, and changing the future of pediatric care.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now.

The show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore regenerative breakthroughs, and empower you with the practical tools to heal. I'm your host, Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today's episode is one every patient should hear.

My guest is Dr. Anu Usman Singh, Medical Director of True Health Medical Center in Naperville, Illinois, and the owner of Pure Compounding Pharmacy.

And for over 17 years, she has been pioneering evidence-based integrative interventions for children with ADD, autism, allergies, and complex gastrointestinal and metabolic disorders.

She's not only a practicing physician, she's a researcher who's investigated copper-zinc imbalances.

metallonine dysfunction, biofilm-related infections, vitamin D in pregnancy, and hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

Dr. Usman serves on the executive board of TACA, and is a faculty member at MAPS, training other practitioners in pediatric integrative care. So get ready for a conversation that will open your mind and heart to the possibilities of when medicine truly becomes holistic.

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Well, welcome back. I'm so excited to have Dr. Usman with me today. I have known her for, oh my gosh, 15, 17 years, something like that. We're aging ourselves.

Anju 02:32

Oh, yeah, when we were in our 20s, right?

Dr. Deb Muth 02:35

Yes, exactly. So, welcome back, and I am so excited for you to be here, because you have literally helped thousands of families over the years.

But I'd love for you to share a little bit about your journey, kind of who you are, what drew you into exploring integrative and biomedical approaches for helping children and families.

Anju 02:58

I think my journey is similar to a lot of you out there, the audience. I mean, we're looking to help our families, and our kids, and ourselves, and I was doing my residency at Cook County Hospital, downtown Chicago, in the 80s.

And I thought, oh my goodness, if I could take care of the sickest patients, then I can take care of anybody. So I came from Indiana, and I went to Cook County, and my children, my eldest daughter, started having, severe allergies and asthma, really, really at a young age.

And I went to, like, my residence, and I went to my attendings, and I said, this baby is wheezing. And they told me, babies don't have asthma.

And I said, she has all the symptoms of asthma. She has asthma.

And I remember with, in her crib, I would just nebulize her, you know, and I was like, what is going on?

And I figured out that she had a lot of food allergies, and I was nursing her, eating the foods that she was allergic to, and back then, in the 80s, you know, we didn't have the internet, we didn't have Whole Foods, and I just…

being a doctor, and I didn't even know what to do, and I felt so hopeless. And I thought, gosh, you know, I'm a doctor, I have these, like, skills, I have… people I can talk to, and I still feel so… it's so difficult. And then this… my particular daughter, the oldest one, her name is Priya, and she developed severe, asthma, and I couldn't figure it out. She was in junior high. Every time she would walk into the lunchroom, she would have a severe asthma attack.

And I'll be like, what's going on? What's going on? I kept her home over the weekend, she was better. I sent her back to school, she was bad again.

And we figured it out that it was other people eating peanuts.

Dr. Deb Muth 04:54

Severe peanut allergy.

Anju 04:56

And I went to the school, and I said, she…

can you, like, put her somewhere else? Can… they said, oh, no, that's not fair to other kids and their food. And this was in the 90s.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:10

Yeah.

Anju 05:10

And so, I just…

You know, my heart goes out to families who are struggling to find answers for their kids, and my daughter Priya, the one I told you about, she ended up passing away from a peanut allergy.

And so, I've just…

Dr. Deb Muth 05:26

Yeah.

Anju 05:27

My heart goes out to parents and my own kids and their illnesses.

And so I just started working with families, with kids, and

It just kind of grew from there.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:40

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I think being a mom who went through that yourself, and…

was seen but not heard, and turned away from the traditional medical community, you're forced to start finding answers on your own. And we always feel like we're on an island by ourselves in the medical world when we're doing that.

Anju 06:01

Yeah, I, it was really hard when I found out, you know, about…

Integrative medicine, and just different…

ideas and approaches to diet and supplements, I thought, how come I wasn't trained in any of this?

And…

Dr. Deb Muth 06:21

So angry when I learned some of the things that I learned in the beginning. I was like, same thing, like, how did they not teach us this? And then I think, you know, it's my fault, was I asleep, was I not paying attention, whatever. And then you just realize, like, there's this whole part of the human body.

That they just didn't teach us.

Anju 06:42

Yeah, so then I… I, probably like you, we had to learn it on our own. There weren't, like, classes or any way to learn this stuff

And I just reached out. There's a clinic that,

I don't know if you've heard of the Pfeiffer Treatment Center?

Dr. Deb Muth 07:00

No.

Anju 07:01

Do you know Carl Pfeiffer from the attendees.

He has a clinic called the Pfeiffer Treatment Center in New Jersey. It was called the Princeton Brain Bio Center.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:12

And in the 70s, they did orthomolecular medicine for patients with ADD.

Anju 07:18

And schizophrenia.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:20

Mmm…

Anju 07:21

and depression.

And they used to categorize them in 3 categories, and at the time, they called them histopenics, histidelics, and pyrolurics.

Dr. Deb Muth 07:31

Okay.

Anju 07:32

Histapenix were low histamine patients.

Delix were high histamine patients, and pyrolurics were their own kind of category. We added another category of copper-zinc imbalances, and then we would categorize that population into high histamine, low histamine, pyrolurics, and copper-zinc.

Now we talk about under-methylation, over-methylation. Sure. So, under-methylation is the, you know, the high histamine people, they can't clear the histamine. And the over-methylators are, you know, what we call about low histamine now.

And, and then pyrolurics and copper zinc. So…

I lost my train of thought, but in the 80s, when I was going through this, in the 90s, I reached out to the Pfeiffer Treatment Center.

He's like, can I calm and just hang out and, like, see what you guys do? Because I need some answers.

And I started working there and, started doing research on copper-zinc imbalances, and I did it in children with autism.

And that's how people started coming to me, and I kinda got, like. not famous, but I, you know, the word spread about, okay, we could talk about it, and Dr.

Walsh was the, you know, PhD there that did a lot of the research, so we worked together for 8 years.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:05

Isn't it crazy to think that we knew about histamine issues way back in the 70s? You know, I got the pleasure of being trained by, environmental medicine doctors. Dr. Wayne Konetsky and Glenn Toth taught me about environmental medicine, and what we called histamine issues that we call it today, mast cell, right? But when I was learning in the early 2000s, it was labeled as chemical sensitivity. And so it was just people that would react to everything, and we really didn't know why, and they didn't necessarily have this very specific allergic reaction, but we knew they were reacting, and we would try to treat them, to lower the histamine way back then. And it's taken all these years, 25 years, to get to a point where we understand mast cell activation now, and histamine issues.

And it's really sad to me that it's taking this long for us to identify things.

And we've all got our journey, and I loved back in those days, too, because as I learned, I would call people up and say, hey, I just got a patient from you, and they told me this great story, and I have other people, can I come see what you were doing? And back then, everybody was very open. They were like, yes, please, come, learn. Now everybody's like, oh, we can't teach you, we can't give you our secrets, but…

Or pay me $20,000 to come learn with me. But back then, I mean, everybody was just… we were all in the same boat. We were all just trying to learn from each other.

Anju 10:36

Oh, yeah, oh yeah, and any bit of knowledge you got, you're like…

Dr. Deb Muth 10:41

Yes.

Anju 10:41

God, you know, I learned this piece, and…

Dr. Deb Muth 10:43

Hmm?

Anju 10:44

We just kind of built from that. I keep thinking about b...

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05:16 Water exists in chaotic state, technology brings order, creates liquid crystalline structure, improves biological systems.

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21:52 Watering land with their Analemma Water led to an explosion of biodiversity in the soil and retention of nutrients necessary for plants to grow. 

32:39 It takes one year and five phases to create and the coherence lasts indefinitely, with a profound effect on biology.

36:32 Product can treat water, can be used for an entire house, garden, and agriculture

41:25 The water influences inflammation levels and they plan to do a deeper study on it as chronic inflammation is a leading cause of illness. 

49:07 An agriculture study is being conducted to observe the effects of different frequencies on plant yield and shelf life. The technology could be useful for larger agriculture companies, promoting healthy food consumption.

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Mario is an entrepreneur, researcher and a visionary in the field of health and wellness. For years he ran a successful international advertising agency and a production house. He was always very passionate about health and wellness, about finding natural ways to heal, regenerate and restore the delicate balance between body, mind and spirit. This led him to establish a natural pharmaceutical company that successfully helped many people for years. After a while he became very passionate about water. Realizing its extraordinary significance he established New Earth Technologies, a company that offers the miracle of Analemma Water to the world.

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06:23 Lyme Disease is real, very real –  We see over 300,000 reported new cases a year of tick-borne illness and tick-borne disease.

10:22 Why do we need antibiotics?

12:27  Some of the symptoms that people can get from Chlamydia Pneumoniae and from tick-borne disease.

14:32 You want to rule out everything before you say it’s a Demyelinating Disease.

15:59 Demyelinating Disease tends to be typically worse in people with Vitamin D deficiency.

16:42 There is enough evidence showing that Ms and Lyme Disease can go together.

17:34 When to test for Lyme Disease.

18:48 What triggers the autoimmune disease?

19:38 Treatment for Lyme Disease and Chlamydia Pneumoniae.

21:53 How long will the treatment take?

23:23 There’s some research that shows that MS is being triggered by the SARS-COV2 Infection.

24:51 The concern that we always have with a demyelinating disease is its progression.

25:51 Some of the things that are being used to help repair myelin and repair nerve damage.

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21:13 How using Yarlap makes the life of a woman so much better, even in her age of eighties.

22:34 Yarlap is getting a lot of amazing stories from women of all ages. 

26:13 Biggest challenges with getting Yarlap in the industry. 

27:57 They think C-section is a way to preserve the pelvic floor, but it’s not. CS cut a lot of muscles.

31:51 Once you start improving the pelvic floor, things are so much better in your life.

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MaryEllen Reider is the co-director of Yarlap®, the wellness device to treat urinary incontinence and improve sexual performance and experience through muscle control. MaryEllen spends a lot of time researching and finding out what’s new in the pelvic floor world and the social media realm. She strives to empower women through their pelvic floor muscles. She enjoys getting to know her customers through social media and speaking events, and inspiring people about why the Kegel exercises and Yarlap® are so important. 

MaryEllen and her dad have emerged as a leading voice in the pelvic floor and sex tech wellness space.

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In this solo episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb breaks down one of the most dismissed and gaslit patterns she sees in practice: the collision of ADHD and perimenopause. She explains the real biochemical reason focus, memory, and emotional steadiness fall apart in midlife, and the root-cause framework to get your brain back.

If your medication suddenly feels like it stopped working and you have been told it is just stress or aging, this episode may finally give you the explanation no one else has offered.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Why is estrogen a master regulator of dopamine, not just a reproductive hormone

- How declining estradiol can leave a stimulant dose that worked at 38 underdosed at 46

- The role progesterone and GABA play as the brake pedal working against your meds

- Why are so many women diagnosed with ADHD for the first time in their 40s

- Why do SSRIs often treats the symptoms and ignores the fire

A five-step, hormone-aware framework to rebuild the foundation under your medication

What Dr. Deb says:

"You are not losing your mind. You're not imagining it. And it is absolutely not just aging. There is a real, measurable biochemical reason your brain feels like it fell off a cliff."

"Your stimulant didn't stop working because you built up a tolerance. The scaffolding your medication was standing on, estrogen, got pulled out from under you."

"You cannot out-medicate a body that's running on empty. The foundation has to be addressed first."

Timestamps:

[00:04] You are not losing your mind: the meds-stopped-working experience

[01:30] Why ADHD and perimenopause are one problem wearing two costumes

[03:54] Sarah's story, and the dot three providers missed

[05:00] How estrogen props up dopamine in the prefrontal cortex

[08:34] Progesterone, GABA, and the gas pedal vs. brake pedal problem

[09:00] Why ADHD comes roaring to the surface in midlife

[11:00] The data: 43% of women diagnosed with ADHD between 41 and 50

[13:26] Why the system reaches for an antidepressant instead of asking why

[16:00] The full root-cause workup to bring to your provider

[18:22] Step one: hormone-aware everything, and the HRT conversation

[20:44] Step two: re-evaluating your medication for your current hormones

[23:07] Steps three through five: feeding dopamine, iron, and magnesium, sleep, and stress

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[01:22] DEB: In pain, depressed, 100 pounds overweight, and in his words, nothing was working. So he did the one thing he had been told for years not to do. He built his plate around meat. Today, the guy who owns a small town movie theater doesn't touch the popcorn. But I had to ask the question every clinician is asking and thinking already. What about your heart? His answer, and exactly where the evidence stops, is coming up.

[01:51] DEB: Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and give you the tools to heal. I'm Dr. Deb Muth, and today we're talking about the carnivore diet, eating mostly meat for weight loss, inflammation, and chronic illness. With a guest who says he lost a hundred [pounds — audio cuts out] doing it. And if you've been told your labs are normal, but you know something isn't right, if you're dealing with the weight that won't move, joint pain, reflux, and low mood that nothing seems to touch, this episode is going to be for you. So as usual, grab your cup of coffee or whatever helps you unwind, settle in, and let's get started. Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I'm so excited to have my guest with me today. It's Kerry Mann. He is a co-director of Healing Humanity. This is going to be a great conversation. And as you guys know, I love hearing personal stories and he's got one that is going to blow your mind. So, Kerry, welcome to the show.

[02:59] KERRY: Thank you, Dr. Deb. I really appreciate the opportunity to come on and share my story.

[03:03] DEB: So, tell us a little bit about yourself. Tell us how you got started in all of this. Where did you start?

[03:09] KERRY: Yeah, well, I guess if we go back about 19 years, my wife and I, well, my wife and I have been together for 32 years now. We met at age 14. My health issues started shortly after that in high school. I started gaining weight. I started experiencing mental health issues, depression, anxiety. And then 21 years ago, we had our first daughter. And then two years after that, we had triplets. And it was, yeah, it was a moment. It was unexpected. It didn't run in the family. It wasn't planned. We actually found out at the five month ultrasound, the ultrasound tech said, uh-oh. I'm like, I'm pretty sure you should be trained not to use that word when you're doing an ultrasound. But she said, there's another one in there. There's three. Oh, wait, there's four. No, there's just the three of them. So that's how we found out we had triplets. And that was 19 years ago. And I just remember at that moment in my life, that was a moment when I'm like, I need to be a provider. Things just got really serious. I need to work hard. I need, there's like so much responsibility. Amazing blessing, like the biggest blessing in the world, but also kind of a very scary time. And unfortunately I just wasn't there. My health was bad at that point. I had really bad depression, anxiety, and just this sort of general fatigue. I was kind of plopping down on the couch. I used to think I was just lazy, like this is just me, but in retrospect I realized I was just metabolically unwell and I had brain fog and I couldn't find my words. I could just kind of go along to get along. So when I needed to be a really good provider, a really good dad, a really good example to my girls and to my family, I wasn't. I was just — and I just kept getting sicker over the last 19 years. My weight continued to go higher and higher. I had IBS. I had arthritis, I had the depression and anxiety kept getting worse. I finally went in and got the help for that. I was the best patient in the world. I took all the medications that they told me to exactly as they told me to take them but my depression and anxiety never got better. And I just kept getting rotated through medications. I'm showing on the screen here, a big bucket of my medications. At one point I was on most of these. I was on 10 or 15 medications. I had stomach pain every time I would eat. So they diagnosed me with IBS and then they tested my gallbladder and they're like, it's borderline. We could leave it. We could take it. And I was just like. Take it like I'm in such pain that maybe that would give me some relief. They removed my gallbladder, didn't change anything for me. My stomach was just always heavy and hurting and every time I would eat it was just discomfort. Then I started getting arthritis and then I had two kidney stones, which was the worst pain I've ever experienced my entire life. I thought I was having a third one about six months after that. And so I kind of just. Tried to suck it up. I was at home and I'm like, I'm gonna just have to pass this kidney stone. Like what am I gonna do? Go to the emergency room? And I was wrong — it wasn't a kidney stone, it was my appendix. And eventually the pain became so agonizing, I went to the emergency room and my appendix burst on the operating room table just before they were going to do the surgery. Probably saved my life because they were able to get in there, but it turned, it went from a simple procedure to a much more complicated one because they had to then clean it all out. And so yes, I just had health issue after health issue. And then the biggest one for me came in my mid 30s. I'm 46 now. I believe I was 35 at the time. I was at home. I was on the couch. I stood up and I didn't know where I was. I was confused. I couldn't find my words. My lips started drooping. My wife started panicking. She called 911 and I took an ambulance ride to the hospital. And I spent about four days at the stroke unit in the hospital and they diagnosed me with a TIA mini stroke. And they did a whole bunch of tests because they're like 35 years old on all of that medication. Like what is going on with this guy? And they diagnosed me with congestive heart failure. They said, "Your heart can't keep up with the needs of your body." When they told me that too, Dr. Deb, I was like, "I'm dead. I need my heart." And they're saying my heart is failing. Like, it's kind of a scary diagnosis, but--

[07:09] DEB: Is that your lowest point, do you think?

[07:12] KERRY: Almost. Almost.

[07:13] DEB: Okay.

[07:13] KERRY: Yeah, just about because they, what they explained to me that day was your heart can't keep up with the needs of your body, but then it got a little worse. Like, okay, I'm not dead right now, but they told me, congestive heart failure is chronic and it will never get better. They said at the best you could keep it at a baseline. It's never going to improve. It's only going to get worse or maybe you can keep it the same. So that was a bit devastating, but I was kind of thankful in some ways because I was so tired and fatigued and I'd stand up and I would get dizzy and all of what they were saying made sense. So at least I have an answer for some of this and now maybe they'll give me some medications or things that'll help me with the congestive heart failure. But to kind of bring this, wrap this story up, they gave me medications more added to the bin. It didn't help. Like I was still having the issues. My ejection fraction was 44 at that time. They checked, they did a heart echo. They checked all of the metrics on my heart. And then I started getting arthritis in my foot. And they said it was gout. I went to another specialist. He said, it's not gout. That guy was wrong. Trust me. It's just a bunch of inflammation in your toe. They wanted to do surgery on my toe. It was to the point where it hurt so bad. I could, I couldn't even walk on it at certain times. I was using crutches for a while. I'd go to the grocery store. I was riding around on a mobility scooter. And that was probably my lowest point because at that point, this was about [four] years ago, at that point, my depression was just overtaking everything. The depression was the worst of all of the suffering and trauma my body's been through. The unexplainable, just hopeless looking at life through this negative dark lens. Everything's negative. It was the worst thing for me because Like as a man, I'm like, well, I can suck it up and get through it. But what it did to my family was the heartbreaking part of it. And I would try to fake it. I would try to just act like everything's fine and it never worked. I'm not a good actor. And then I felt even worse because then I'm just, I'm a big phony. I'm just lying to my family and they, they, they could know within a second. Why is dad sad? Why is dad mad? Why is dad not talking to me for weeks as I'm just plopped down on the co

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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now. I'm your host, Dr. Zab, and we are continuing our discussion this week on

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peptides. And so, if you haven't heard our first conversation about peptides,

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please go back and look at that episode. We talk all about the manufacturing, the safety, the quality of peptides, and we

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dove into GLP1s. And today we're going to dive into peptides for sexual

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wellness, immune function, growth hormone, and all the amazing fun things

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right, everybody. We are back. And are you ready? We are talking all things peptide and I am opening the show today

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with sexual wellness. Yes, I'm going there, you guys. I am going there. You

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know, this has really become a big issue for people um of all ages. It's not just

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us older people. It's younger people, too. And there's a whole variety of reasons why we have sexual dysfunction.

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And when we're talking about sexual dysfunction, we're not just talking about it doesn't work, right? Or I can't

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reach orgasm. A lot of it is around desire and um the thought of it and

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wanting to connect, wanting to be kinder to one another, wanting to be touching

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one another. A lot of it resolves or revolves around that. And so there are some peptides that can help us and I'm

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really excited to be able to talk about those today. So the first one is called PT-141.

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This targets the brain not the periphery. Right? So for many women I

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will always tell you sex starts between here. It is a brain thing for us. It is

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not necessarily a physical thing. For guys that's a little different. It's very physical. For women it's all in our

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brain. So tip for you men that are listening. You have to prime your woman's brain first if you want her to

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have sex with you that night. You have to be nice to her. You have to bring her flowers. Do the dishes for her. Do

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something kind. Bring her a cup of coffee or tea or a glass of wine. Take her to dinner. You have to woo her. And

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I don't care how long you've been married. That has to happen. And tip number two, don't say anything stupid

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that day. I'm just being honest. When you guys say things that make us upset,

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that lingers with us for the rest of the day. And it's it's a turnoff for us. And

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for a lot of women, we can't get past that when it comes time to snuggle at night. And sex doesn't always have to be

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at night either. So, you can tell I really love talking about this conversation, but we're going to get into the peptide part of it because this

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is going to help people. So, um, PT-141 is marketed as I'm going to slaughter

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this name, Vali, and it represents a fundamentally different approach to

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sexual dysfunction than the PDE5s inhibitors like Slenden, Viagra,

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Tedataphil, which is Seialis. And while the PDE5 inhibitors work specifically by

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enhancing blood flow to the genital tissues, PT-141 works centrally in the brain by

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modulating neural s neural circuits involved in the sexual desire and

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arousal. Now PT-41 is a cyclic hpatipeptide. It's seven amino acid

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peptide arranged in a cyclic structure that acts as a melanoortin receptor

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agonist and with particularly the infinity for MC3R and MC4R subtypes.

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It's actually a metabolite of the melanotan 2, a peptide originally

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developed for tanning that was also found to enhance sexual desire in early

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studies. Now the melanoortin system in the brain is involved in multiple functions including energy homeostasis

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but it also is involved in sexual motivation and arousal behaviors. The FDA approved PT-141 in 2019 specifically

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for the treatment of acquired generalized hypoactive sexual desire

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HSDD in permenopausal women. So for the first time we have a medication that was

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approved by the FDA to use for women for sexual dysfunction. We have had all of

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these seialis tedataphil viagros for men but we had nothing for women. And so

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this is amazing that this is available for women and approved by the FDA. It's a big deal. This represents the first

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and only FDA approved medication specifically targeting these circuits of sexual desire rather than the peripheral

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arousal mechanisms. And this indication is quite specific, meaning it was developed at some point, not lifelong.

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So I if you've had sexual dysfunction your entire life, this medication was

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not approved for you. But if it's something that you developed over time, like when you went through pmenopause or

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menopause or some women have this experience happen after childirth, that's what we're talking about here.

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Now, it's also not just um supposed to be used if you dislike your partner,

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right? If your relationship is bad and you dislike your partner, this probably isn't going to fix a ton. It might help

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a little bit, but that's not what it's meant for. So, you really have to know what you're using it for and why. And

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the other thing that I would say is this is something that we don't go to if your hormones are not balanced properly. You

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have to balance your hormones properly before using something like this because it still may not work. Now, the only

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caveat to that is if you're a woman that has a risk of breast cancer and can't use hormones, then that's a different

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story and we would have that conversation about whether or not this medication would be appropriate for you. Now, the FDA label specifies PTA1 uh

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PT-141 as it not being indicated for HSDD in causes where low sexual desire

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is due to coexisting medical or psychiatric conditions, problems with relationships, like we had talked about,

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side effects to medications or other substance use. This specifically reflects the importance of differential

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diagnosis. Low sexual desire can have many root causes and PT-41 is only

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appropriate when those causes have been ruled out. Now, I have I used PT41 in

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people who have sexual dysfunction issues as a result of using

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anti-depressants. Yes, I have. I've used Flynn in that effect as well. And it

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does work sometimes, but it doesn't work completely. But you need to know that that is not what the approval is for the

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FDA. So that is done in something that we call off label use. So very important

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to know. Now in these clinical trials leading to FDA approval, this was published by Kinsburg and colleagues in

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obstetrics and gyne gynecology in 2019. PT-141 demonstrated statistically

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significant improvements in sexual desire and decreases in distress related

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to low desire compared to placebo. The effects manifest over 45 minutes to

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several hours after the injection and the mechanisms involved modulation of dopamine and melanoorton pathways in the

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hypothalamus and the brain regions that involved sexual motivation. Now cardiovascular effects of PT 141 require

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careful attention. This drug causes transient increases in blood pressure about 3 to four points and transient

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decreases in heart rate. And because of this, it is contraindicated in patients

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with uncontrolled hypertension or known cardiovascular disease. And it has been studied in patients who've had recent

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cardiovascular events or sorry hasn't been studied hasn't been studied in patients who've had recent

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cardiovascular events. So patients need to have their blood pressures checked before starting therapy. Nausea is

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extremely common. It is one of the biggest things I often will tell people to take an anti-nausea medicine if

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they're going to do this because the last thing you want to do is inject this medication and think it's going to give

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you this great time with your partner and you're so nauseated that you can't even perform, don't want to kiss, don't

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want to do anything. It it can be pretty profound for some people. um it does affect about 40% of the patients in

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clinical trials which is why many clinicians require or recommend an

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anti-nausea medication like I had just said other common adverse effects include flushing injection site

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reactions headache in about 13% of the population whic

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15:32 You need a support group of people that you can share things with and get ideas from, and find out who’s the best

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Susan Salenger is the author and researcher behind Sidelined, How Women Manage & Mismanage Their Health. Sidelined examines the many ways in which some women manage and sometimes mismanage their healthcare. (Release date, April, 2022) 

Susan explores how women, typically the medical gatekeepers for their families, tend to be extremely conscientious about taking care of themselves, yet at the same time inadvertently undermine their own care. They often hesitate to call the doctor when they don’t feel well and worry that their doctor visit will take time away from their families or work. They may hesitate to ask doctors the necessary questions and don’t always comply with the doctor’s instructions. Salenger’s research reveals how conflicted many women are about the medical decisions they ultimately make. 

Born and raised in Los Angeles, Susan attended UCLA to study English. After graduation, she worked alongside her husband Fred for 25 years at their production company, Salenger Films, which produced corporate training and development films distributed worldwide. Today, at age 80, Susan lives in Northern California to be near her incredible family which includes her two daughters, four grandchildren, a cat named Max and a dog named JD (Salenger). When she is not speaking about her book or spending time with family and friends, you will find Susan power lifting to stay in shape.

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08:16 Signs and symptoms of perinatal mental health issues.

09:43 Myths around postpartum depression.

12:07 Distinction between baby blues and postpartum depression.

14:01 Are women who suffer from postpartum depression more inclined to suffer when they shift into menopause?

15:31 Steps you can take before the postpartum depression kicks in. 

18:29 What kind of role is social media playing today in our mental health with moms and postpartum?

22:07 Finding ways to navigate the sleep situation is ultimately better for mental health.

24:05 How we can support young moms, now that things are different. 

27:12 What’s the truth about moms?

31:43 Resources available for people who are suffering from postpartum depression today.

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Katayune Kaeni, Psy.D. PMH-C, aka, Dr. Kat is a perinatal mental health certified psychologist, author of The Pregnancy Workbook: Manage Anxiety and Worry with CBT and Mindfulness Techniques, and host of the Mom & Mind Podcast which covers personal stories and expert interviews related to perinatal mental health. She is also the board chair of Postpartum Support International, an organization whose mission is to promote awareness, prevention, and treatment of mental health issues related to childbearing in every country worldwide. Dr. Kat began specializing in perinatal mental health after her own experience with postpartum depression, anxiety, and OCD over 12 years ago. Dr. Kat continues to work virtually with clients across California.

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17:57  – Your diet is the way you feed the bacteria in your gut

21:02 – The next big thing is the selective use of key strains for specific conditions

25:40 – The balance and variation in the diet negates the toxicities of certain foods

28:57 – The reason why midlife women do not lose weight but instead tend to gain

32:39 – The second law of thermodynamics in food – It’s not all about calories, it’s about the sheer bulk, sheer mass, and sheer energy density of the food

35:36 – There is no easy answer, there’s no single solution, we’re should be looking at a combination of multiple things

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51:41 – The variation in the diet and the intuitive eating are the things that must be factored in

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About our Guest:

Joel Greene

He had his 10,000 hours already in before your guru ever began.

In the 1970’s he was interval training

In 1979 he was doing Olympic lifts for 3 hours every night.

In the 80’s he began studying MCTs.

In 1990 he began studying the Keto diet.

In the early 90’s he was doing what would be called intermittent fasting today.

In the mid 90’s he experienced the rebound from chronic starvation. You read this today for this reason.

In the late 90’s he went through his clean eating phase, his macro phase, his ancestral diet phase.

By 2001 he had his first nutrition website publishing cutting-edge research.

By 2006 he came to the end of all the above and discovered none of it worked overtime under real-life pressure.

In 2007 he authored the first article to the health and fitness community based on the new science linking gut bacteria and obesity.

in 2008 his website lookcut.com hit #2 in google for weight loss, with over 1,000 original groundbreaking articles that today represent many of the most widely copied ideas in nutrition.

In 2009 he launched the world’s first diet system based on targeting gut bacteria.

In 2010 he was implementing signal activation of the AMPK pathway. The gurus only began speaking to AMPK in 2017.

By 2013 he had the world’s largest body of anecdotal outcomes for body composition targeting the gut bacteria.

In 2013 he published the first article to the health and fitness community on the dangers of MCT oil supplementation.

Today, at 53, on 1 workout a week, eating whatever, whenever, with no drugs, sarms, prohormones, or ergogenic aids ever, he is the world leader in hacking the body. He is the real deal. He has done it longer and has always been far ahead. He looks it, he lives it. What the gurus say is impossible he was living every day before they were gurus.

He has hacked peak human…working out once per week, eating whatever, whenever, and does it all on fast food!

He is the future of real-world health and nutrition, today.

As the creator of the VEEP Nutrition System, the world’s first commercially available program based on targeting gut communities to effect biomarkers, Joel also is a featured author, speaker, and guest in top tier publications like Muscle and Fitness, 24 Hour Fitness Digital Magazine, CBS Online, Superhuman Radio. His system has also been featured on the Dr. Phil Show where it has delivered astounding life-changing results.

www.veepnutrition.com

www.instagram.com/realjoelgreene

Book here on Amazon

Transcription of Episode #146:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. So my guest today is Joel green, and he is the author of the immunity code, and he is the CEO of Veep nutrition. And Joel is talking to us today about nutrition, and fat loss, as well as what’s actually happening to the fat cell structure inside of the body when we employ these various diets that we’ve been using for decades, like low carb, high protein, keto, paleo, and why these things work in the short term. And then they ultimately just stopped working over time. And we don’t understand why and we’re frustrated. So Joel is going to unlock the key to why that’s happening, and tell you how we can make those things change. So let’s get ready for this awesome episode with Joel green. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head? Or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme, COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care. center.com. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I am your host, Dr. Deb and I have with me today Joel green. And we’re going to talk about nutrition immunity and of course one of our favorite topics is fat loss. So Joel, welcome to the show.

Joel Greene 2:53Thank you, Debra, thank you for having me.

Debra Muth 2:55So Joel, tell us your journey. How did you get into nutrition and you do something called the immunity code to get involved in that?

Joel Greene 3:07I started when I was a kid. I was in theJack LaLanne like at an early age like five oh no it wasn’t wasn’t like a billion channels on back then.

Debra Muth 3:20That’s true.

Joel Greene 3:22You would you get up in the morning and you know there were cartoons and Jack LaLanne. Yeah. So do the Jack LaLanne jump up and down with him. And it just became for whatever reason just kind of became part of my life from about that age. So I got into running when the running craze hit that was in 70s and that just started running I was like fourth grade started running around the block and see how far I could go and and then I wanted to get fast and I started sprinting in fifth grade kind of every day during the summer going to the blacktop and try to get faster and that led into I was really skinny, super skinny. I was like in fourth grade and I started tying together like a hammock and doing curls with our with the bars from the hammock and and I shot up and got like really tall in one year. And I was just humiliated. I was so skinny. So I’ve always wear a long long sleeve shirts to school. And so I got into I got into weightlifting and kind of kind of like just pursued that path all through kind of High School Sports, track and field and then write about when I was in college. I started just reading more and I was I was I was going to UCI and working out and I was just kind of you know, I was reading all the fitness magazines and just try and stuff that I would find in there. So example. There was a there was a workout that said you could gain an inch on your arms and one day it just worked out 12 hours so it worked out For hours, got me chronically sore never worked. So I was kind of an early supplement user. And there was a company called champion nutrition that made that made a thing called, was actually called metal ball. And the really interesting thing about it was the label said contains MC teas, that that was fat cannot be stored as fat. And this was like 1989, I think 90. And that, so this was the era of no fat, like, everything, that no fat on it. And so the idea that fat couldn’t be stored as fat was, was like, what you know, and so yeah, just reading more trying to understand more of this stuff, but I just, I just kind of got into it, you know, from from an early age, really what happened. And long story short, I was always a consumer, and I had this journey as a consumer, that is probably very similar to what I often hear from other people. And it’s that you, you would try a lot of things, and then you would have like success. And you would think that whatever that thing was, was the thing. And, and you’d get down the road a few years. And suddenly the thing became like, like a weight around your neck, like, like it stopped working. And not only did it stop work...

Do not miss these highlights:

03:38 The origin of ESS60, and how it was discovered.

06:03 How this soccer ball-shaped molecule, ESS60 can extend lifespan by 90%.

06:42 If you reduce your calorie consumption by 30%, you can extend your life by 30%.

10:16 There’s a massive structural difference between the soccer ball-shaped molecule and Graphene.

11:15 What is Nanotechnology or Nanomaterials, and how can they be beneficial?

14:11 How MyVitalC products work on reducing free radicals and working on healing some of the mitochondrial damage.

17:14 Why ESS60 is in olive oil.

21:09 ESS60 in Olive oil – How it tastes and how healthy it is.

24:09 Chris Burres journey in the supplement industry.

27:33 Why you should be careful buying supplements on Amazon.

29:13 Seeing those testimonials from people led Chris in formulating the product that somebody else can utilize easier and better

33:09 How detrimental sleep is for your mental focus and your mental intellectual capabilities and your physical.

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Some may call him a mad scientist but don’t let the lab coat fool you! Chris Burres is the owner of SES Research, the first company to deliver carbon nano materials, and MyVitalC, the world’s first nano antioxidant. Chris has an extensive background in a diverse range of areas including Mechanical Engineering, Comedy Improv Artist, Oil and Gas Explosives and Competitive Soccer to name a few. He’s also the co-host of the most popular internet marketing podcast on iTunes since 2009. When Chris realized a Nobel Prize-Winning chemical tested by NASA had been proven to almost double the lifespan of mammals, he decided to make ESS60 into a household item. He’s now on a mission to help people live longer, healthier and pain-free lives one dose at a time.

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Transcript for Episode #171:

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms.

0:15Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today I have with me Chris Burres. Now some may call him the mad scientist but don’t let the lab coat fool you. Chris is the owner of SES research the first company to deliver carbon nanomaterials and my vital see the world’s first nano antioxidant. Chris has an extensive background in a diverse range of areas including mechanical engineering, comedy improv artist, oil and gas explosives. Let’s be careful guys, and competitive soccer to name a few. He is also the co-hosts of the most popular internet marketing podcast on iTunes since 2009. When Chris realized a Nobel Prize winning winning chemistry, tested by NASA had been proven to almost double the lifespan of mammals, he decided to make Ess 60 into a household item. He is now on a mission to help people live longer, healthier, and pain free lives one dose at a time. I can’t wait to talk to Chris today. You know, we have known about antioxidants for decades. But this is amazing because nano material is really being the talk of medicine right now. And it’s exploding and can do wonderful things for us if done correctly. So without further ado, we’re gonna get a note from our sponsor, and then I’m going to bring Chris in and we are going to have a fantastic conversation today.

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3:14Welcome back. I’m your host, Dr. Deb with let’s talk wellness now. And I have Chris burrows here with me. This is going to be a great conversation. He and I’ve just been chatting a few minutes before we got started. You guys are going to just love him. Chris, welcome to the show.

3:27Dr. Deb, thank you so much for having me. I’m excited to be here and to share some really kind of very interesting, cutting edge information with you and and your audience.

3:36Oh, thank you. So tell us what my vital C is. I thought when we started, I thought we were going to talk about nanoparticle vitamin C, but that’s not what we’re talking about at all.

3:48At all. No. So we’re gonna we’re gonna go way back, we’re gonna go back to the very beginning. And actually the discovery of a molecule. So in 1985, here in Rice University, which is in Houston was where I’m based, they discovered the third form of carbon, you’ve got diamond, you’ve got graphite, and now you’ve got to have a whole gamut of molecules called fullerenes. The most abundant of them is we kind of affectionately call it a buckyball. So I’m holding up a molecule if you’re just listening, the molecule I’m holding up the best way to imagine it is imagine a soccer ball where the lines on the soccer ball represent the bonds between the carbon atoms. You have a spherical molecule of 60 carbon atoms. The professor’s who discovered this, discovered it in 1985, and then went on to win the Nobel Prize for that discovery in 1996. So a short 11 years from discovery to being awarded the Nobel Prize. The reason they were awarded the Nobel Prizes, this molecule, this soccer ball shaped molecule is absolutely amazing. It’s harder than a diamond, it’ll actually turn into a diamond. It’s got six fold symmetry. One way I describe it is it performs forms as well or better than the current best material in every application. So better inks, better tires, better batteries, better photo cells, there’s actually a new symbol and chemistry because of this molecule. So we’re familiar by the way, that’s I think that’s how you know you’re going to get a Nobel Prize is when you add a symbol to the language of chemistry. So it turns out that the interior of the soccer ball shaped molecule is big enough for any atom on the periodic chart to fit inside of it. So lanthanum at C 60 means lanthanum, physically trapped inside the soccer ball shape, it’s not ionically bonded exterior, it’s not covalently bonded, it’s physically trapped inside of it. That’s something that had never existed prior to the discovery of this molecule. So, so not surprising, they won the Nobel Prize. Now, yours is a health show, and I just talked about a molecule that’s used in ink, batteries, tires and photo cells, people might be going, this is not going the direction that I want it to go. And it’s gonna get a little worse. So they actually assumed for various reasons that this molecule would be toxic. So they did a toxicity study. And they published the results of that toxicity study in 2012. In that study, they gave rats water, rats, olive oil, and then rats all the way on, we say if it’s prepared for consumption, it’s called the ESS 60. That’s the 60 carbon atoms. Instead of being toxic, the rats that they gave the olive oil with Ess 60, really the my vitals the formula to live to 90% longer than the control group. So that’s the single longest longevity experimental result ever. The next best way to live live longer, and you may be familiar with this is called calorie restriction. If you if you reduce your calorie consumption by 30%, I call that the starve yourself 1/3 to death diet, which nobody seems to sign up for, I don’t think maybe they need a whole marketing spin. But if you do reduce your calorie consumption by 30%, you can extend your life by 30%. And that’s been proven in multip...

What if symptoms that have been dismissed for years aren't all in your head, but signs of an underlying tick-borne illness or complex chronic condition that needs a different kind of care? Today, we're talking with Ginger Southley DNP, one of the leading voices in Lyme disease, mortgage, and tick-borne illness care. She brings decades of clinical experience and a deeply patient-centered approach to some of the most misunderstood conditions in medicine. Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge approaches to healing, and empower you with the tools to take charge of your life.

I'm Dr. Deb, and today we're diving into the complex world of Lyme disease, co-infections, more jellins, and the deeper factors that can keep people stuck in chronic illness. If you or someone you love has been struggling with unexplained symptoms, fatigue, brain fog, pain, or a long road to answers, this episode is for you. So, as usual, grab your cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you settle in, and let's get started on today's journey toward deeper healing.

You guys can put one of the ads in here, that'd be great. No. There we go. Because otherwise, yes, we're going to get chatting, and we'll forget. I pre-recorded the intro part, so we can just dive in, and I can ask you, like, how you got into this, and then we can start our conversation again.

Dr. Ginger Savely 02:01

Okay, I can't remember what I said last time, but that's alright, I'll just…

Dr. Deb Muth 02:04

So, we need to protect them. Well, welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness now. I have a dear lady, Dr. Ginger. She's being so gracious because we already goofed up our first recording we did on Riverside a few months ago, and she's been gracious enough to come back and join us again and do it all over again while we're actually recording. So, Dr. Savely, welcome to the show.

Dr. Ginger Savely 02:26

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

Dr. Deb Muth 02:30

Dr. Ginger, tell us a little bit about how you got involved with tick-borne disease and Morgellons, because you are truly a legend in this world, and I'd love for everybody to hear your story.

Dr. Ginger Savely 02:42

Well, I just to very briefly go over, I got into the tick-borne diseases because my daughter was so very sick with it, and I started learning everything I could, and the next thing I knew, I was picking it up in my… population, I was doing primary care, family practice, and I was picking it up in that group. And then word got around, and next thing I knew, I'm treating a lot of tick-borne disease, became 50% of my practice, then 70% of my practice. And then, a few years into it, I started having, well, first of all, Dr. Harvey, who was a Lyme doctor in Houston, Texas, he and I were constantly communicating about things and comparing notes, and he emailed me and said, have you seen any patients with you know, blue fibers coming out of them? And I said, I don't think so, but I'll start looking for it. So, then I did, and I started asking all my Lyme patients about it, just, have you had any unusual things come out of your skin?

And once I asked them, then, lo and behold, a certain subset of them said, well, yes, as a matter of fact, I do have that, but I've just learned not to mention it, because people think I'm crazy, so I just never, you know, say a word about it. And so I started picking up a lot of these patients, and you know, of course, since I first came at this by way of tick-borne diseases, Lyme, etc. I figured, okay, these people I know have tick-borne disease, so let's treat that and see if maybe their immune system recovers to the point where they can handle whatever this is causing the Morgellen's disease. And so that's the way I approached it at first, just treating underlying infections, since I had no idea what was causing more dilins. I just noted an association with Lyme disease. And so, I put out a paper about 20 years ago. I published a paper that had to do with Basically, one thing… the main point of the paper was correlating

Lyme disease with Morgellins, saying that 97% of my Morgellins patients ended up having Lyme or another tick-borne infection.

And, so this is… this is the first publication that basically kind of made that correlation, you know, between the line. And I think it's been taken out of context a lot, misinterpreted. I never for a minute said that Lyme causes more gelins, not at all, and we… that's a leap way too far for us at this point. I just noticed an association. So, whatever that may mean, who knows? But, you know, certain illnesses, like, for example, AIDS patients are famous for getting this

Carpacea sarcoma. And it doesn't mean AIDS causes that sarcoma, because other people get it too. It's just highly associated with the tooth, so… We might be talking about a disease that's highly associated with tick-borne infections, or maybe it's caused by a co-infection that we don't even know about. Or maybe it's something entirely different, and the tick-borne diseases were just suppressing the immune system to the point where The person succumbed to whatever this was whenever they got into contact with it.

And so, I began, you know, just experimenting and trying different cocktails of things to see what would work. And as I began to treat, I realized that The more jealous patients did not

get better with a Lyme protocol. They got better when I used a Bartonella protocol, a specific group of antibiotics that's used to treat the Bartonella infection. Now, again, I'm not saying for a minute Bartonella causes more gelin, but I'm just saying that when I use the treatment for Bartonella, that's when I get the best results on my mortgageellin's patients. And I also have noticed that my Morgellen's patients tend to have other symptoms that are typical Bartonella symptoms, like a lot of the neuropsychiatric symptoms, neuropsychiatric, sorry, and the, the streaks that they'll get on them, the red tracks. Spontaneous scratches, all that. So those we do see on our Bartonella patients that don't have more gelin.

So, I started… it was… my early patients were, I would always say, you're the lab rats, because we're just experimenting with everything, and they were more than willing. I mean, these people were so desperate, they were so miserable, and so… upset by the way they've been treated by the medical establishment, that they were, every one of them, at a point of saying. I don't care what you give me. it… if it… even if it kills me, I'd rather be dead than have to deal with this, you know?

Dr. Deb Muth 08:07

Try something, right?

Dr. Ginger Savely 08:08

That's pretty drastic, I know, but that's where they were. They were at a point where, I don't care, I'll take any risk just to do this. However, I've always been using FDA-approved medications, and, you know, it's just… naturally, I'm treating, sort of in my own, kind of invented way, because there's no textbooks you can go to for this, there's no algorithms, there's no treatment protocols for this, because more than half of the medical world doesn't even believe it exists. So, we… you know, I looked very carefully at all these patients in my office with magnified, lighted magnification, and I was seeing amazing things. I mean, I couldn't believe it. Sometimes the hair on the back of my neck would stand out when I would see these things, because You know, bright blue fibers are not supposed to be coming out of the human body. And I would even pull at them with the tweezers, and, you know, they would not come out, so it wasn't like a matter of they were just stuck on there, you know, from fabrics or something, as dermatologists often claim is the case.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:24

I had a patient once with Morgellons, and she got a magnification glass that she could attach to her phone, and she, like, took pictures of what was coming out of her skin and video recorded it and sent it to me, and oh my gosh, it's crazy. crazy how these things come out. And if you don't see it under a microscope like that, it's really hard to understand what's going on.

Dr. Ginger Savely 09:48

Exactly. And, you know, what we've always said is dermatologists usually carry about a 12X scope in their pocket, but you need really more like 60X to see this stuff, because very rarely can you see it with the naked eye. I mean, sometimes you can, but you do need that lighted magnification in order to see it. I do have some patients come to me, they have all the symptoms more jealous, but they say, I don't think I have fibers, and I said, well. but you… have you really looked with magnification? They said, well, no, I just thought I'd see them, and I… so then it turns out they actually do have them, but… Yeah. So I… I've been fascinated mostly then in treating these patients by how… diverse each patient is, because I can develop a protocol that's working fantastically on this patient, and try it on the next patient. It doesn't work at all.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:49

So…

Dr. Ginger Savely 10:50

So, it's just back to the drawing board, every single patient. And of course, there's a huge variance in degree of severity of this illness. I have everyone… everywhere from people who are totally functional, going to work, and just have this annoying thing going on, all the way to people who are just completely marred and disfigured and can't even get out of bed. So, you know, of course, there's quite a difference there, and naturally, it's a lot more difficult to treat the more severe cases. And often with the more severe cases. Our best hope is reducing symptoms significantly to where they're tolerable....

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It's that your cells aren't receiving the right signals. Because the body doesn't run on diagnosis, it runs on

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lining support, metabolic control, brain signaling, sleep cycles, and even sexual

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wellness. Today, I'm going to do what most people won't. Define peptides in

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plain English for you. break them into categories by what they're best at and

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tell you which ones are FDA approved on the list and which ones are commonly

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used off label or investigational with the evidence that actually says these

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work. This is going to be a powerful episode and if you've ever felt like you're hearing hype without clarity,

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this one's for you. So, as usual, grab your cup of coffee or tea and settle in

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All right, here we go, guys. I am excited to dive into peptides with you.

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So understanding peptides is foundational, right? And I've been

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studying peptides now for about nine years. Um, and I find that they are

2:13

incredible. Um, so I want to break down for you what peptides actually are, what

2:19

they do, and some of the top peptides that are available today, and how they

2:25

can be utilized. Because I think it's really important. And I think it's it's there's a lot of confusion out there about what these things actually are and

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are they safe? Are they not? When do we use them? What's the science behind them? So, we're going to dive in and

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we're going to talk about all things peptides. So, let's get ready here. Here we go. So, peptides are short chains of

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amino acids and they typically range anywhere from 2 to 50 amino acids and

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they're linked by peptide bonds. So think of them as the superglue that holds the amino acids together. They sit

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between the amino acids and they are full proteins in terms of their size and

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their complex structure. And what makes peptides particularly interesting in

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medicine is their role as signaling molecules. They're essentially the

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body's text messages carrying specific instructions to cells and tissues. And

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unlike our proteins which often serve as structural roles or act as enzymes,

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peptides typically function as hormones, neurotransmitters and growth factors and

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they bind to specific receptors on the cell's surfaces or within the cells and

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they trigger this effect. It's like a cascade effect of a biochemical reaction

3:45

that ultimately changes the cellular behavior. So basically, it's changing

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the way the body's cell structure acts. And this is why peptides can be so

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incredibly powerful and therapeutic when you introduce the right peptide signal.

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Now, you could theoretically redirect cellular processes toward healing,

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towards metabolism, immune balance, tissue repair. Any of those things can

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be manipulated to do a certain thing once we add the peptide. The challenge

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in peptide medicine though lies in distinguishing between those peptides that have been rigorously studied,

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proven safe and effective and approved by regulatory bodies like the FDA versus

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those that exist in what we call the gray zone of a promising clinical data.

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But they really lack human validation so far. And this distinction is critical because the presence of a plausible

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mechanism does not guarantee safety or efficacy in living humans. So, this is

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really important and we're going to dive in and look at some of the research on all of these different peptides that are

4:56

available and I'm excited to say there's some amazing peptides being studied right now that unfortunately are not

5:01

available. But I can't wait to see them hit the market for us because it is going to be a gamecher as far as health

5:09

and longevity. So there is a quality control issue and there is a hidden

5:14

variable in peptide medicine with this and it's one of the most underappreciated aspects of peptide

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therapy particularly for non-FDA approved peptides. It's quality control.

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When we discuss pharmaceutical medicines, we take for granted that the pill contains what the label says. Not

5:32

always true depending on where it comes from. You guys, if you've heard my episodes before talk about how many of our medications are made in China and

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have been contaminated with other things, you will realize that that is not always true. So, just because it has

5:48

the FDA stamp of approval on the medication, it still does not necessarily mean it's safe and we still

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need to do our homework on it. So, sorry for digressing on you guys, but you know, when we get a medication, we we

6:00

think that what the amount says is what is there, doesn't have contaminants, it's manufactured with good

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manufacturing practices. You'll see that listed as GMP on the bottle, and it's been stored properly, it's been

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maintained stable, and with research peptides and compounded formulations,

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none of this can be assumed. So, I will share a story with you. There was a gentleman that was purchasing these

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peptides online from a research facility and um did not know that they were

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coming from China and he was ordering a particular growth hormone peptide and

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after a little while he had he had done fine for the few first few bottles. After a little while he started having

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some complications. He started getting really irritable and angry and ragy and

6:47

he didn't quite know what was going on. And so he decided to go get some testing done. He had some blood testing done and

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his testosterone level was over 5,000. So for those of you who know what testosterone level should be for a guy,

7:00

they really shouldn't be any higher than about 1,00200 would be absolute max that we'd want to see. Now he was taking

7:06

testosterone but not to that degree. And prior to adding this peptide, his

7:12

testosterone was very stable. What they ended up finding out was the peptide that he was getting, whoever was

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manufacturing it added testosterone to the peptide. They felt like if if it had growth hormone, that was great, but if

7:25

it had growth hormone and tes testosterone, all the better. And he didn't know that. And this is the

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problem that we can have with peptides if you don't source them properly. if you're not working with somebody that

7:37

knows how to source them and can prove that they are what they say they are. Um, I'm sure there's a whole bunch of

7:42

studies out there too of people getting these peptides and paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for them over their

7:48

lifetime and finding out they were nothing more than just sterile water. So, you really do need to be careful

7:53

with your quality control. Now, this kind of leads us right into the next topic that we're going to talk about and that's the manufacturing question,

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right? The FDA approved peptides are manufactured in facilities subject to

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the FDA inspection rules following our GMP regulations and these facilities

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must validate their manufacturing process, demonstrate consistency batch to batch, test for purity and potency.

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They need to test for bacterial endotoxins and sterility and they need to maintain detailed records. So, when a

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pharmaceutical company submits a drug application, the FDA inspects the manufacturing facility as part of the

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approval process. If you're getting peptides from a different country, none of that is happening. And there are some

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ways for us to determine if that is what you're getting. Typically, the rule of thumb is if your peptides are coming

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with a different colored top, every one of them has a different colored top. Those are typically being sourced out of

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China. I wouldn't say that's 100% but that's kind of the rule of thumb that people follow. So compoundingies these

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are thearmacies that make our bio identical hormones. They can make medications in any dose or strength or

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route. There are thousands of them in every not that not in every state but

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there are thousands of them around the country right now. So these compoundingies are registered as 503A

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facilities....

Dr. Deb speaks on the importance of hormones, the role they play in our everyday lives, thyroid dysfunction, the endocrine system and the body’s cravings for healthy hormone levels.

Do not miss these highlights:

[3:25] Hormones play a critical role in the chemistry between our body cells and our organs. They actually trigger different functions within different organs

[4:19] Dr. Deb’s misdiagnosis of fibromyalgia and how it impacted her life

[7:29] Conversations with her ‘wacky’ friends led her down to discover more through nutrition and integrative health

[10:49] A look at the thyroid when talking about hormonal imbalances

[12:30] Normal vs optimal: a look at the importance of your vitamin d levels

[14:18] The effect aging has on our hormones and how it affects the body

[16:55] The impact that having high or low levels of cortisol can have

[18:46] When your hormones are off-balance your body just does not feel the way it should and it impacts all parts of your life and your relationships

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Transcription for Episode #129:

0:02Welcome to Let’s talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

0:17I’m Dr. Deb, founder of Serenity Health Care Center, I want to thank you for joining our let’s talk wellness now podcast, it has been such a pleasure to share our knowledge. With so many people, we are averaging about 25,000 downloads an episode. And that is amazing because it’s showing us how much people want to learn about health and wellness. Outside of the health care center, we have had the pleasure of changing lives for over 8500 clients, both men, women and their children. As a result of this, I have created serenity you and university Learning Center where you can access all of my knowledge that I have developed over 25 years of practice at your fingertips in an easy to find the index library, you will have access to this dashboard 24 seven, it will be like having your own personal natural path at your beck and call. Anytime a day. I’d like to encourage you to check it out at Serenity view.com.

1:32So today’s podcast is 01. And we’re going to talk about why do we need hormones. It is really important for me to share the message of how important hormones are to our bodies. You know, hormones are made up from our endocrine system. And they’re basically the body’s chemical messengers. As part of that endocrine system, these hormones, you know, they travel throughout the bloodstream, they go into the tissues, they go into our organs, and literally every cell in the body is in dire need of hormones. And if the hormones are thrown off for whatever reason, we start to become symptomatic. And so it’s really important for us to understand a how important hormones are, what do they do in the body? Why are they important? Where do they come from? How am I going to feel if I don’t have hormones? Or if my hormones are off balance? What’s going on with them? And then secondarily, what do we do about that?

2:48And can I do something about it. So, you know, the endocrine system is responsible for what regulates our heart rate, our metabolism, our energy, foods that we eat our appetite, mood, sexual function, growth, development, sleep cycles, and just so much more. The endocrine system is just such an amazing system in our body. And it’s so important for us to have access to healthy sources to feed that endocrine system. You know, the hormones play a critical role in our chemistry between our body cells and our organs, they actually trigger different functions within different organs. And every hormone has a function in a different organ to for instance, our thyroid gland is a master hormone In my opinion, you know, it controls our metabolism, it controls controls our brain function, it controls our appetite, it controls so much of who we are our body temperature, regulation, all of that. And many times it’s just kind of pushed to the wayside. Like it’s not that important, or people really don’t have a big problem with it, and that women are just looking for thyroid to lose weight. And that’s so not true. You know, I I remember when I was a younger woman, I was about 28 years old and just really feeling rundown and burnt out and just not feeling like myself at all. And I was cold all the time and I was tired and my brain didn’t want to work and I was irritable and had no sex drive and just felt like crap honestly. And I was a nurse practitioner at that time and I had done a lot of research and I had narrowed it down to two things that I thought I had Fibromyalgia or Ms. Never once dawned on me that thyroid could have been a problem back then. But I had researched all my symptoms. And I was for certain that I had one of these two problems. And I remember going to my family doctor at the time and giving him all my symptoms and telling him what was going on. And I walked into the doctor’s office, and the medical assistant took me back. And it was, it was a 90 degree day in August in the Midwest, it was pretty warm out. I had a sweater on, and they took my temperature. And the guy looked at me very perplexed and said, Gosh, this, this thermometer must be broken because your temperatures 95. And, and there’s no way that could be possible. And he said, I’ll be right back, I’m gonna go grab another thermometer. And he came back with another thermometer and took my temperature again and 95.2. And he said, so something’s not right. This is two thermometers, I don’t think it’s you. Don’t worry about it, the doctor will bring it up if something’s wrong. And I really didn’t think much else of it after that, because I was there for you know, Ms or Fibromyalgia back then. And I was very conventionally minded back then I didn’t have an integrative approach to anything. And so the doctor came in and examined me and of course, never made mention at all about my temperature being 95 degrees. And I left with a diagnosis of fibromyalgia, and two prescriptions, one for Prozac and one for narcotics. And he looked at me and said, Be prepared to be disabled in four years, this is what you have, it’s a debilitating condition. And we don’t really know what to do about it. And I remember feeling so devastated and so broken and, and thinking, gosh, I’m 28 years old, I just started my career as a nurse practitioner, and I have two children at home that are young, and what am I going to do, I walked out to my car and just sobbed just just broke down sobbing and I felt so lost and so alone. But luckily, I had back then some really wacky friends that I called them. And thank goodness, they’re still my friends today, even though I thought they were wacky back then, you know.

7:37And I called some of them up and said, Gosh, this is this is what’s going on. And I don’t know what to do. But I know one of you has to know somebody that can help me. And so one of my very dear friends Gail took me to her friend that was a nutritionist. And she got me on the path to eating healthy and taught me about nutrition and the importance of a healthy diet and got me off sugar. And talk to me about thyroid function. And again, I still really didn’t think anything of the temperature issue. For for several months after that, until one of my other friends took me to see someone else that was an integrative practitioner. And they said to me, are you sure you don’t have a thyroid issue? And I said, No, there’s no way I don’t have a thyroid issue and, and they said, Well, did they test your thyroid? And that was an aha moment because of course, they never tested my thyroid. And I started going home doing some research on thyroid and realized that Wait a minute, this could all be thyroid. My sister had a thyroid issue. My grandmother had a thyroid issue. My other grandmother had a thyroid issue. And I thought, wow, could this all be thyroid? And it wasn’t until a few years later that I actually started treating for fibroid because I couldn’t find a practitioner that would treat me back then. Nobody would draw my blood. Nobody would treat me I looked perfect. There was no way I could have underactive thyroid, I was then I didn’t have all of the signs and symptoms of a classic thyroid person. And so they ignored me. And that was really my first introduction to integrative medicine to hormonal health from a different perspective. I’ve always been a woman’s health nurse practitioner, I worked in fertility, I understood it all. I understood hormones, thyroid Everything inside and out. Except what came to me. When it came to me, I didn’t understand it like I should have understood it. But I learned, I learned very quickly. And I decided at that moment that no one under my watch as a practitioner is ever going to suffer from a thyroid condition. Because I was too lazy to check, or I was too. Too convinced, I guess is the word that somebody doesn’t have a thyroid problem, because they don’t fit the picture. And so from that point forward, I always looked at thyroid in every patient that complained about typical hormonal imbalances. And, and that’s, you know, the important piece of it. If your thyroid is off balance, the rest of your hormones can’t work. You can’t make estrogen. You can’t make progesterone, you can’t make thta, cortisol, all of it, none of it works properly, if the fiber is not working properly, nothing can communicate together if things aren’t doing that....

Dr. Deb 3:15So there’s this connection between mitochondria and neurological diseases, but how does this all tie together with things like MS and fibromyalgia? Well, MS is widely known as an autoimmune condition, and what’s less talked about is how the mitochondria dysfunction amplifies the damage. Now this happens in any autoimmune disease. This is why the mitochondria are so important. Regardless if you have an autoimmune thyroid condition, you have an autoimmune disease like lupus or MS or something as severe as ALS, when the mitochondria fail, they create a toxic environment in the nerve cells and these excessive ROS produced by damaged mitochondria actually attack the myelin sheath that’s the protective covering around the nerves. Think of that as an electrical wire, and the plastic that covers the live wires underneath is your myelin. Now this leads to inflammation, which not only worsens the nerve damage, but also further weakens the mitochondrial function

Dr. Deb 4:27in Ms. Mitochondria aren’t just bystanders, they’re frontline soldiers caught in the crossfire.

Dr. Deb 4:36What’s more, mitochondrial dysfunction also explains some of the most frustrating MS symptoms, like chronic fatigue, when the nerve cells don’t have enough energy repairing myelin or maintaining basic functions becomes nearly impossible. It’s like trying to fix a leaky roof during a power outage. You just don’t have the resources to get the job done. You.

Dr. Deb 5:00Uh.

Dr. Deb 5:01Now let’s talk about symptoms that many of you or loved ones might be experiencing, chronic fatigue. It’s one of those most common complaints amongst people with mitochondrial dysfunction. This isn’t just about feeling tired. It’s about feeling like your body has run out of gas, and no matter what you do, no matter how much rest you get, you just can’t simply

Dr. Deb 5:28get relief to a point where you feel like you can get through the day. Some of my clients will complain that it feels like I’m walking in a pot of quicksand or concrete because I’m just dragging throughout the day. Now you can have chronic fatigue syndrome outside of having ms, outside of having infection.

Dr. Deb 5:51It can just happen because of the mitochondrial damage. But when the mitochondria gets damaged, there is a root cause. Now imagine waking up every morning feeling like you’ve already run a marathon. That’s chronic fatigue. But it doesn’t stop there. Cognitive decline or brain fog is another hallmark symptom of mitochondrial damage. Neurons require an immense amount of energy to function when mitochondria can’t meet this demand, you experience memory loss, lapses, difficulty concentrating and slowed mental processing. Pain and inflammation are also linked to the mitochondrial dysfunction and damaged mitochondria release more ROS which triggers more inflammatory pathways and increases the sensitivity to pain. Don’t forget the sugar metabolism. Mitochondria are central to how your body processes glucose, and when they malfunction, you get those energy crashes and insulin resistance when which can exasperate MS symptoms, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia. So what am I talking about with this glucose insulin? What is all of this? Well, your body creates insulin from its pancreas, and it does so in the body’s need to keep blood sugar or glucose in check. The more glucose or sugar we consume, the more insulin has to be produced to keep that balance. Now, as the mitochondria become more deficient, that process becomes more inefficient, and we start to create more insulin to try to control the glucose, but we do it more ineffectively. This is what we call metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance, and over time, as the pancreas becomes less efficient at creating that insulin to keep the glucose under control, we see more weight gain, we see more rise in type two diabetes, and we see more complications occur as a result of that. Now, very infrequently, do we see diabetics put on a mitochondrial protocol to help support their insulin and glucose? It’s just not common practice. It’s just not seen traditionally in medicine. In our functional or integrative medicine world, it is much more common that you will see people be put on what we call a quote, unquote Mito cocktail to support their body, support what’s happening and the stress that’s happening there.

Dr. Deb 8:33So what causes the mitochondria to malfunction in the first place? It’s a perfect storm. One of the biggest factors is toxic exposure, heavy metals like mercury, pesticides, mold, toxins and particularly damaging to the mitochondria. Infections are another issue that we see with damage to the mitochondria, long term issues with Lyme disease, epstein barr, strep, as we know, panz pandas, all of these things can lead to mitochondrial dysfunction, leaving you in a position where your body’s not doing what it’s supposed to

Dr. Deb 9:13think of toxins as throwing sand into the gears of your cellular engines. Over time, those gears grind to a halt. But it’s not just about external factors. Genetics also play a major role. Mutations in mitochondrial DNA or nuclear genes that regulate the mitochondria can increase your susceptibility to MS, fibromyalgia and other chronic conditions for people with these genetic vulnerabilities, even small exposures to toxins and stress can have outside effects.

Dr. Deb 9:49Now let’s talk about what can we do about this? There is good news. There are steps that you can take to support your mitochondria and improve your health.

Dr. Deb 10:00So at Serenity Healthcare Center, we use comprehensive approach, including dietary support. You want a really nutrient dense, anti inflammatory diet, rich in antioxidants to help protect the mitochondria from oxidative stress, foods like berries, leafy greens, healthy fats. Think keto, paleo, auto immune diet. AIP, these are the types of diets that you really want to follow to build that mitochondria and give you what you need. Think of your diet as fuel for your mitochondrial engine and give them premium, not junk.

Dr. Deb 10:43There’s IV therapies that we can use, treatments like glutathione and CO Q 10, delivered intravenously, provide a direct boost to the mitochondria and repair its function. Glutathione is one of my favorite IVs to use, because it is not only an amino acid that helps build your mitochondria, but it also helps to eliminate the toxins. It can remove metals like mercury, lead, cadmium. It can get rid of other toxins like pesticides and chemicals and herbicides. It is one of the most amazing amino acids that we can give and very inexpensive. Now, co Q 10 is delivered either orally or by IV. It is imperative in a mitochondrial protocol to use CO Q 10. It is a powerhouse.

Dr. Deb 11:38You can also use nutrients like magnesium and alpha lipoic acid and N acetyl cysteine or NAC, these are essential for mitochondrial health. NAC actually helps your body make its own glutathione, which is really key. And sometimes people will say, I can’t do all of these supplements. So can I pick and choose? Yes, you can, but you’...

What is panic, anxiety, loss of happiness in what you do, looking at the world from a dark lens? Could you be having a soul or existential crisis? Dr. Jeanne Marie Retief shares her journey from being a humanitarian rights attorney to creating her own cosmetic company. How it changed her idea of work-life balance and brought her the peace she was looking for.

Do not miss these highlights:

04:50 How Panic Disorder affects Dr. Jeanne life. 

08:00 Anxiety and trauma stays with you, and it becomes part of you. 

11:49 Creating a space where women can come, and tell their stories without the feeling of being judged.

12:34 Unbalanced work-life results created a very sick population of people – people who don’t know how to have fun, people who are not happy.

16:00 We need a place where we feel supported,  where we can share, where we can express and we can move that journey along.

18:57 Dr. Jeanne’s journey from Human Rights to a product maker.

22:09 If your skin doesn’t feel good, you don’t feel good too.

22:44 The beautiful benefits of the Rooibos plant.

24:08 Getting to know more about Dr. Jeanne’s product line. 

28:14 Difference between ‘all-natural Products’  versus ‘naturally derived products’.

32:42 Dr. Jeanne’s definition of balance.

34:58 Don’t run away!

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Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

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When Jeanne turned 35, she experienced great change, contemplation, confusion, frustration, and joy. She invested so much of her energy in becoming an expert in her field, but realized that the career she had built with a single-minded focus no longer fulfilled or inspired her. It was a confusing and frightening realization. Facing a health and soul crisis she decided to make a big change. She integrated her human rights background into FIGGI which allowed her to seek serenity and still experience the adrenaline rush of creating something new. This is what FIGGI is to her! It is her Best Life – It is her FIGGI Life.

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In this solo episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb reframes endometriosis as what the research actually shows it to be: not simply a hormone problem or misplaced tissue, but a systemic autoimmune and mitochondrial disease. She makes the case for why the standard treatments fall short and lays out the root-cause toolkit that actually heals.

If you have spent years being handed the same options and told this is just how it is, this episode offers a different and far more hopeful path, one built on what is truly driving the disease.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Why endometriosis is an autoimmune and mitochondrial condition, not just misplaced tissue

- How the birth control pill masks the disease while depleting the exact nutrients your mitochondria need

- Why oral estrogen is the wrong choice for HRT, and what to use instead

- The missing diagnosis almost no one tests for: hormone allergies and mast cell activation

- How low-dose immunotherapy (LDI) retrains the immune system rather than suppressing it

- A practical supplement, botanical, and peptide toolkit built around the real root causes

What Dr. Deb says:

"Endometriosis is not just a female hormone problem. It's an autoimmune disease. It's a mitochondrial disease. And today I'm going to prove it to you."

"The pill does not treat endometriosis. It masks it, and in many cases it makes the underlying disease significantly worse."

"Hormones are not your enemy. The wrong hormones, delivered the wrong way, without addressing the immune and metabolic underpinnings of the disease, that is the problem."

Timestamps:

[00:01] The truth no one tells you: Endo as an autoimmune and mitochondrial disease

[02:23] Why does diagnosis still take seven to ten years

[04:50] The immune breakdown: NK cells, T reg dysfunction, and inflammatory cytokines

[06:00] Mitochondrial dysfunction at the cellular core of endo

[09:39] How the birth control pill makes endo worse, not better

[11:41] The SHBG problem and why it can persist for years after stopping the pill

[14:01] The gut, the estrobolome, and estrogen recirculation

[18:21] Why oral estrogen is the wrong choice for HRT

[23:09] The missing diagnosis: hormone allergies and mast cell activation

[30:18] Low-dose immunotherapy (LDI) for endo, PMS, and hormone allergies

[33:00] The integrative toolkit: NAC, DIM, CoQ10, quercetin, and more

[41:00] Peptides for endo: BPC-157, TA1, and KPV

[44:30] Navigating HRT safely with a history of endo

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In this episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb sits down with Danielle to share her deeply personal and inspiring journey through thyroid cancer, Lyme disease, and the long road of recovery that followed. What emerges is a powerful story about the mind-body-spirit connection and how healing often asks more of us than medicine alone can give.

Danielle opens up about how martial arts, visualization, and faith became central to her recovery, and how learning to regulate her nervous system changed the course of her healing. Her story is a reminder that even in the hardest seasons, resilience and hope can carry us further than we imagine.

If you or someone you love has been navigating chronic illness and wondering whether real healing is still possible, this conversation is for you.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Danielle's personal journey through thyroid cancer and Lyme disease

The role of spiritual practices and visualization in healing

- How martial arts and nervous system regulation supported her recovery

- The powerful impact of stress and emotional health on chronic illness

- Why holistic, integrative approaches matter so much in health and healing

Key frameworks discussed:

The Mind-Body-Spirit Connection, Vagus Nerve Regulation, and Quantum Healing.

Simple practices to take with you:

Incorporate daily visualization and prayer

Practice martial arts or Qigong to support nervous system health

Make space for holistic and spiritual well-being in your health routine

In Danielle's words:

"What we focus on is what we become."

"Healing is possible. Don't lose hope."

"Strive to cope, not to be perfect."

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Personal Journeys

03:45 The Impact of Chronic Illness

06:31 Navigating Thyroid Cancer

09:37 The Spiritual Component of Healing

12:22 Lyme Disease and Its Challenges

15:01 The Aftermath of COVID-19

17:59 Finding Healing Through Martial Arts

20:41 The Role of Mindset in Recovery

23:30 Current Work and Future Aspirations

26:38 The Need for Accessible Healthcare

29:28 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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In this episode of Let's Talk Wellness Now, Dr. Deb sits down with Dr. Nicole Cain for a trauma-informed, whole-person look at anxiety, trauma, and nervous system dysregulation. Together, they move beyond symptom management to ask a deeper question: what is actually driving the anxiety in the first place?

Dr. Cain reframes anxiety as a spectrum rather than a single diagnosis and explains why understanding trauma as an adaptive response, not a personal failing, changes everything about how we heal. From the gut-brain axis and the microbiome to epigenetics, environmental factors, and even the surprising role of oral health and mouth breathing, this conversation connects the dots between the body and the mind in ways most conventional care overlooks.

If you have ever felt like you were only ever handed tools to cope and never the answers to why you feel the way you do, this episode offers a more empowering path forward.

In this episode, you will learn:

- Why anxiety is better understood as a spectrum, not a disorder

- The nine types of anxiety and why a personalized approach matters

- How the microbiome and gut-brain axis shape your mental health

- Why trauma is best understood as an adaptive event, not a weakness

- The surprising connection between oral health, mouth breathing, and how you feel

- How epigenetics and your environment influence anxiety

- Practical stress management strategies for busy, overwhelmed people

- Why lasting change comes from finding the root cause, not just the trigger

Key takeaways:

Anxiety is a spectrum, not a disorder. The goal is to reduce the obstacles to healing, not just quiet the symptoms. And real progress comes from finding the root cause, not just the trigger.

Chapters:

00:00 Understanding Anxiety and Its Root Causes

25:54 Defining Trauma and Its Impact

30:14 The Role of Gut Health in Mental Wellness

40:19 Biological Drivers of Anxiety

44:54 Empowering Personal Health Journeys

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What if bloating, back pain, and low energy aren't separate problems, but clues from the same root cause? What if your posture and the way your fascia moves are changing how your digestion works and how you feel every day?

Today, we're unpacking why symptoms like bloating, fatigue, and persistent pain often come from deeper, whole body issues, and how a multimodal, root cause approach speeds real recovery. You guys can, put our advertisement in here for Venari before we do the intro.

Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative and integrative care, and empower you with practical tools to heal.

I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today we're talking about whole body recovery, how movement, fascia, gut health, and personalized medicine come together to restore function, energy, and confidence in your body. If you or someone you love struggles with bloating, pain that won't quit. Slow recovery after surgery or postpartum, or chronic low energy, this episode is for you.So get comfortable, grab a warm drink, And let's get into it.

So today, I'm joined by Dr. Shalini Batt, founder of the Movement Boutique in Toronto. She is a chiropractor and double-certified functional medicine practitioner who builds care around root causes, lady after my own heart. And rather than just treating the symptoms, as we all know, and you guys have heard me talk about before, that is how we get to the other side of things. So, what I love about your work is you blend the clinical expertise and that lived experience, and just before we started recording, we were talking about the difference of fascia.

and chiropractic, and even when you're looking at bringing in acupuncture and Pilates and functional medicine, having all those modalities together is so amazing. So, before we dive into all of this stuff. Tell us a little bit about your own story.

Shalinibhat 02:49

Yeah, well, my own story is that I grew up very steeped in Western medicine. My father's a surgeon, and I had, you know, access to all the allopathic care that was out there, but I kind of had all that, what I call, gray area symptoms. That doesn't make it into, you know, an allopathic answer, so to speak. And so, having access to all of… you know, the best… this specialist and that specialist didn't really give my IBS you know, some type of help, and it didn't really give my chronic back pain some type of help. And I kept, like, tearing my meniscus. I was a dancer, and I just kept, like, thinking, I'm doing all the same things as all these other girls in my class. Why am I the one who keeps tearing my meniscus? Like, what is up with… they… like, we all have the exact same tissues. Why is my tissue resilience so low? that this keeps happening to me. And I seem to be the only one in, you know. from dancing from 3 till I was… when I was 3 till when I was 18, and experiencing this, and I'm looking at everybody, like, what's the deal? And I sort of felt different, but I couldn't really pinpoint what was going on, and probably similar to your story. all the things that were coming at me were just labels and diagnoses, and like, you know, same with my meniscus, they were like, the first time, they were like, alright, we do surgery. I was like, okay, sounds good, like, went and did the surgery. The second time it, tore, I was like, that obviously didn't, do it, because they took out 30% the first time, and then, you know, some of the 70%, you know, tore. And I said, there has to be… there has to be some reason why my My tissue resilience is low, and why that shear force is going through on my left knee every single time, like that same mechanical strain is happening, and fast forward to today, I realized that fascia is this fabric that runs all over the body in huge swaths, and in very large, sort of movement patterns, which we'll get into, but basically, the way that I was, like, standing, the way that I was… my tissue resilience was less, that's what was setting the stage for me to re-tear that meniscus, but nobody was asking those questions. My IBS, like the stealth infections I had, the leaky gut I had, all of those things creating excessive inflammation just in my body in general was decreasing my tissue resilience and making me re-injure that same area. So instead of, oh, I'll just keep getting it, you know, shaved down or taken out, like, why was that same mechanistic injury and strain happening? on that knee, and I started asking different questions, which led me to, instead of going to medical school, say, oh, wait, chiropractors can actually, like, you know.

Actually move the body, understand what's going on, spend the time with patients to properly diagnose, and then actually use our hands, because I've always been a very tactile person. Being a dancer, you know you're always using your body, I understand my body, so when I started my kinesiology degree. I… kinesiology was a no-brainer. I'm like, I have a body, I want to use it, I want to learn… you know, when I'm learning about the muscles and the hands and the… like, I have that, so it's… I've always been a touch kind of person, and that makes sense to me, learning about the body. And, that's why I ended up studying in such, let's say, asking alternative questions, so to speak, and that's why even when I finished my kinesiology degree, and even when I finished my chiropractic training, I still went to school to learn acupuncture training, because I still had more questions, and then

I… and concurrently, I was teaching Pilates as well, and Pilates always resonated with me because I thought, yeah, if you have this really strong powerhouse and this really strong core, that always helped my back. And it always helped my knee. And so, translating kind of all four of these modalities, the chiropractic, the fascial release, the acupuncture, and the Pilates, became sort of my… my own little method that I created on how to help people. I probably… a lot of people listening to this, think of chiropractic as, like, you go somewhere and you get crack, crack, crack top to bottom. That actually is not how I've ever practiced, either, because

even when I was chronically inflamed with all these issues, even an adjustment would send me into more inflammation, and I would be, in… having aches and pains, so that was not even… I needed it so much gentler, and that's why I started working with fascia and thinking, like, what else is here? And, like, if someone's so inflamed, maybe an adjustment is too aggressive for, somebody in the moment. And there's a time and a place for everything, don't get me wrong, but that wasn't my personal, you know, go-to, so to speak, and so that's why I started working more gently around fascia, and that's why I used acupuncture needles, and pilates training, and rehabilitation, and looking at people's movement patterns, and seeing, okay, where are things going off here, and what's the actual… I hate the word root cause, but that's where we all come from, it's just gotten so crazy. But really, truly, if you have back pain, why are we just looking at the back.

Like, if your entire pelvis is off, if your entire, like, body is leaning to one side, and you're putting way more weight on one foot than another, like, why are we… why are we just treating the back? Why are we just adjusting the back? Why are we just, you know, putting ice on the back, or put… or putting painkillers, or rubbing things on the back? We gotta look at the entire body as one whole system when it comes to injury, and that's my very long backstory to tell you how I… sort of amassed these different things that I do, And in my training. Sorry, I forgot one piece in there, and that's… with my gut thing and my IBS, I went back to school and did functional medicine training to figure out what that was about, because, and even when my uncle mentioned it, I think, oh gosh, early 2000s, he said, leaky gut, and I thought, well, people probably think these days, like, wait, there's holes in my stomach? You know, like, what is

And at that time, you know, way back in the day, the first test was, like, that, flakulose mannitol, like, that really.

Dr. Deb Mut 08:53

Boom.

Shalinibhat 08:53

You can get tests. Yeah. Now, obviously, we've come a long way. So yeah, that's how I ended up with all these five random modalities that are sort of enmeshed into one, and that's what we do in my practice. My clinical practice is literally all of those modalities, and we really meet people where they are. So we invite anyone to come to us with, whether they have an MSK issue, and that's the primary thing they want to work on, we can do it by starting Pilates. We can do it by starting fascial training. We can do it by starting acupuncture. We can do it by running labs and seeing where you are functionally if you want to lower that inflammation, or those stealth infections, or whatever it is that you have going on. So we invite anyone to come in and sort of pick their service menu, because I feel we… we should help everyone, but not everyone feels… like, not everyone's like, wow, I want to run a school test with you first. They may have the capacity to be like, okay, I'll try a workout, or I'll try a Pilates class, you know? And then once they're in our space, they're like, oh wait, what else do you offer here? This is really different than where I've been. So that's sort of what my practice is all about.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:58

I love that. I love that blending of all of the different things, and I think, you know, some of the best practitioners are those who've been through things, and it doesn't have to be that way, but we kind of explore all the different things that could be causing our issues, which allows us ...

What if your diagnosis isn't actually your diagnosis? What if the fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, and inflammation you've been told are normal are actually signals your body is reacting to something in your environment? Something no one ever tested.

What if the reason you're not getting better is because no one is asking the right questions?

Today, we're exposing one of the most overlooked drivers of chronic illness, and why so many people are being dismissed, misdiagnosed, and left without answers.

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Welcome back to Let's Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal. I'm Dr. Deb, your medical detective. And today, we're diving into the hidden drivers of chronic illness through the lens of functional and environmental medicine.

If you or someone you love has been diagnosed with a chronic condition or is struggling with unexplained neurological symptoms, like fatigue, brain fog, numbness, or chronic pain.

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Settle in, and let's get started on your journey to deeper healing.

Today, I'm joined by Dr. Kelly McCann. A board-certified physician in internal medicine and pediatrics, with advanced training in functional, integrative, and environmental medicine.

She's known for her work in mold illness, chronic infections, MCAS, and complex chronic conditions And for helping patients who have been told everything looks normal. She helps them finally get real answers. Dr. Kelly, welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have you here. Share a little bit about what you're doing these days, and who you are, and who you're serving with us.

Kelly McCann 02:42

Thank you. So, my favorite patient population is patients

who deal with complex chronic illness, and I didn't set out to deal with these kinds of patients, but I kept… needing to be able to solve the puzzles, right? So they would come in, and there would be so many things that just didn't add up and didn't make sense, and it started with,

it started with just doing functional and integrative medicine, and GI issues, and hormone issues, and autoimmune issues, and then it was mold as a driver, and then it was Lyme disease and the other tick-borne infections, and then all of those patients, many of those patients developed mast cell activation syndrome.

Which I've now gone on and become an expert in, because they all have it.

And all the related conditions with MCAS, the Ehlers-Danlos, hypermobility syndrome, POTS, postural orthostatic tachycardic syndrome, and… The one thing that really stuck out to me over the years of treating these patients is the ones who were willing to take a deep look inside. And see how their… their belief patterns, how their thoughts how they perceived themselves, different traumas that they experienced. If they were able to reframe some of the ways that they were thinking about their illness, about themselves, their relationship to themselves, they were the ones who really healed.

And not only did they heal physically, they healed emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually. I have some patients who started out disabled, and now are running their own companies. One who, again, same thing, terribly disabled, lots of emotional issues, lots of ups and downs, food sensitivities, oxalate issues, and now she's a medical intuitive. And she's just doing fabulously, and has blossomed, right? So, this is a missing piece that we're not really talking about.

Dr. Deb Muth 05:04

Yeah, I so agree with you. I see the same thing in my practice, and I treat a lot of the same people you do, and you are so right. Like, if we can get down to a deeper level with them, and address the trauma that happened.

And it may be a trauma they never even remembered, right? It could be something that's just seated in their cells and they don't remember it. And you don't directly think it's causing the illness, but it is getting in the way of them healing. If you can address those things, those are the people that tend to do so much better, I think, versus the people who are getting some mileage out of their illness. That there's a reason they stay stuck, there's a reason they stay sick, they're getting something from it, even though they don't realize it in the moment.

So let's talk a little bit, before we hopped on the recording, you and I were talking about body, emotion, spirit. A little different than what we're used to hearing with mind, body, spirit. Talk about your philosophy on this.

Kelly McCann 06:01

So what I've really come to realize is that the mind is getting in the way. And we have this perception that our mind is who we are. Right? We really think that who I am are the thoughts that I have every day. That's me. And when I'm not getting better, it's because my body is not… Falling in line with what my mind and my will want to do. So we set up this adversarial relationship. And this has been the philosophy in Western culture since Descartes said, I think therefore I am. Where the mind is supreme, and it is the all-knowing, and the body is just a vehicle for the mind. And every… Therapeutic intervention, from trauma-informed therapy, from, you know, wonderful people who have committed a lot of help and given great information. Bessel van der Kolk, The Body Keeps the Score, Gabor Mate, you know, all of these folks who have done such great work in us understanding trauma I think… The next phase is really recognizing that the body is actually not against us. It is not our enemy. In fact, it is… The body that is speaking to us as the voice piece of our souls and our spirits, that is saying to us, hey. you're not listening. The path that you are walking down and the way that you are being in the world is not really working for you. It's not who you are. It's not who you're supposed to be on the planet. And we're trying to get your attention, right?

Dr. Deb Muth 07:59

Yeah.

Kelly McCann 07:59

I mean…

Dr. Deb Muth 08:00

this thing, so I'm gonna talk louder.

Kelly McCann 08:02

Exactly, exactly! It's like a little toddler who only can speak in so many words, right? There's only so many ways that a younger version of ourselves, or our bodies, like, how do our bodies communicate to us? Symptoms and sensations. That's it. Those are the ways that our bodies communicate. And if we don't listen to sensations, well, it's gotta turn it up, it's gotta turn up the volume, and then we have more symptoms. And then if we're still like, no, it's gonna do it my way, it turns up the symptoms some more. And when… We are in this adversarial relationship, we can't bridge that gap. Can't bridge that gap, so… What… what happens is that

Underneath the symptoms and the sensations are emotions. Emotions that have not been processed. Because we've been stuffing them down, we believe that they shouldn't exist, we don't want to face them, we're afraid of them, they're not acceptable, we're ashamed of them, whatever the reason may be, and they're stuck in the body. And so the way through is to actually just feel our feelings.

Dr. Deb Muth 09:26

That's kind of scary for some people.

Kelly McCann 09:28

It's… it's scary for the… it's scary for the whole planet!

Dr. Deb Muth 09:32

For all of this, right?

Kelly McCann 09:33

For all of us. When we start to feel our feelings, we don't like it. We've been taught it's not okay. Boys, it's not okay to cry. Girls, don't be loud, don't be angry. You're a B-I-T-C-H if you do that, right? So there's so many taboos about feeling our feelings. I have patients who say, I can't be mad at my father or my mother because I was taught to honor thy father and thy mother. Like, yes, but you're angry, and guess what?] That ain't going nowhere until you express it, so… you have a choice. Express it, or hold onto it, and then you just kind of stay here in this space where it's never expressed.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:19

Yeah, except in your body, in your physical being, right?

Kelly McCann 10:22

Except in your physical being. And here's the magic. Emotions are meant to move through us, right? Emotion. They don't last for that long!60 to 90 seconds, really? Maybe a couple minutes? Yeah. You really, really feel them. Right?

Dr. Deb Muth 10:44

Yeah.

Kelly McCann 10:46

And we're terrified of that 60 to 90 seconds.

Dr. Deb Muth 10:50

What might we do to ourselves or to someone in that 60 to 90 seconds, right? I may scream, I may cry, I may not be this person that everybody thinks I'm supposed to be. That person that holds it all together is there for everybody, holds everybody else's space. So well put together, right? If you're not that person, then who are you? Are you human?

Kelly McCann 11:16

Oh, you're more than human. Yeah, I mean, the way that I would look at it is, I would say, well, you don't have to put on a show, right? This is really for you. Close the door, lock the… close the windows, get out your pillow. Whatever you need to do. I mean, I have some patients who will write it out. There's a way to just, like, freeform write, where you don't actually read it, you just write it out, scribble it out, get it all out on paper, and then burn it, or shred it, or something like that. you can pound a pillow, you can, you know, scream, whatever it is, you can cry. I mean, I think crying is, at least for… for me. Crying is the easiest way to think about it. So, you sta...

Dr. Deb 0:19for 25 years, integrative medicine practitioners have been sounding the alarm while being dismissed as fringe and quacks. Well, now that fringe movement has reached the highest level of government our White House,

Dr. Deb 0:34what if everything you’ve been told about maintaining your family’s health has been influenced by the same corporations profiting from your illness. Today, we’re pulling back the curtain on one of the most controversial health crusades in American history. This is not a story about left versus right. It’s about life versus profit from fringe to mainstream, how integrative medicine’s 25 year battle for health and freedom reached the White House. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness now this show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting edge regenerative medicine and empower you with the tools to heal. I’m Dr dab, and today we’re diving into the hidden corporate forces corrupting our health care system and the controversial efforts by leaders like Robert F Kennedy Jr to make America healthy again.

Dr. Deb 1:32So grab your cup of tea or coffee, and let’s settle in for an amazing discussion.

Dr. Deb 1:39You know, I remember when I started practicing, people would come into the office with one blood pressure medicine, maybe an allergy medicine, and they didn’t have a lot of medical interventions. Now I see people on three to five blood pressure medicines, often three to five other medications. And you have to start to wonder, Is this our environment doing this, where we just can’t control things the way we used to? Today,

Dr. Deb 2:12we’re going to talk about this hidden health crisis, because it’s really become a major problem,

Dr. Deb 2:22the health crisis hidden in plain sight. What if your symptoms aren’t your true diagnosis? What if the rising tide of chronic disease in America isn’t just bad luck or genetics, but the result of systemic changes to our food water and our environment.

Dr. Deb 2:42Today, I want to take you behind the headlines and political noise to examine something that affects every single one of us, the forces shaping our health landscape and the controversial figures who’s now at the helm of our nation’s health policy. Let me start with something personal.

Dr. Deb 3:03In my practice at Serenity Healthcare Center, I’ve seen disturbing patterns over the last two decades, children and adults coming in with complex, multi system conditions that simply weren’t common. When I first started practicing, we would see one or two people with these type of symptoms. Now I see five to 10 people with the same type of symptoms. Autoimmune conditions that used to be rare are now commonplace. Developmental delays that once affected one in 10,000 children now impact one and 36

Dr. Deb 3:43and one of my grandchildren is one of those children. As a functional medicine practitioner, I’m trained to ask why, why are we seeing these dramatic shifts? What environmental factors might be driving this surge in chronic conditions? That’s exactly what Robert F Kennedy, Jr has been asking for years as an environmental advocate and now as Secretary of Health and Human Services, he has the power to do something about it. His make America healthy again. Initiative isn’t just a catchy slogan, it’s a fundamental challenge to how we think about health and disease in America,

Dr. Deb 4:26I need to be clear about something important. What’s happening now with the Make America healthy again movement isn’t new to those of us in integrative medicine for over 25 years, practitioners like myself and pioneers like Dr Mark Hyman, Dr Perlmutter and the late Dr Bradstreet, along with many others that you would never recognize because they worked in the trenches, witnessing these disturbing health trends and speaking out about them, but not in a public arena.

Dr. Deb 5:00Speaking out about them, one on one with the clients they touched every single day. That’s precisely why so many of us have stepped away from conventional medicine and entered integrative practice. We saw this broken system and wanted to create real change, and I’m really excited today to see Dr Casey means starting to speak out at a very powerful level on what’s been happening with the food industry, what’s been happening with our government and our pharmaceutical companies. It is a brave thing that she is doing, because many who have tried to do what she has done have lost their licenses, lost their livelihood and been turned away by their own families.

Dr. Deb 5:50We recognize that our medical system has designed, was designed to manage symptoms rather than address root causes. We see how pharmaceutical interventions were being prioritized over lifestyle changes. We understood the powerful influence that food companies chemical manufacturers and pharmaceutical Giants had on both medical education and on health care policy, and for 25 years, we were often dismissed as alternative or fringe, but now many of the same concerns we’ve been voicing for decades are being elevated to the highest levels of government policy. This isn’t a partisan issue. Chronic disease doesn’t care if you vote red or blue, the companies profiting from both illness and treatment don’t distinguish between conservatives and liberals when marketing their products, they market to the whole this is about something much deeper. It’s about how corporate influence has shaped our very understanding of what it means to be healthy. Take our food system. For instance, since the 1950s we’ve witnessed a complete transformation in how food is produced, processed and preserved. Over 10,000 chemicals are now permitted in our food supply, many without rigorous safety testing or any safety testing. For that matter, big food companies have engineered products specifically designed to bypass our natural satiety signals, creating what scientists call hyper palatable combinations that trigger addiction like responses in our brains.

Dr. Deb 7:39Is it any wonder we’re facing unprecedented rates of obesity, diabetes and metabolic dysfunction, and what has come to save the day for these food companies that have created these chemicals that have made us obese and made us have conditions that don’t allow us to lose weight? Well, of course, it’s GLP one, it is the best weight loss product on the market ever that costs $1,300 a month in this country, but yet in Europe, it costs $88

Dr. Deb 8:15a month. And we’re not just pushing this for adults. They want to approve this medication for six year olds. That means that we have six year olds that are obese enough that they’re having medical conditions like an adult, and they will need to take an injection every week for the rest of their lives to control their obesity and their diabetes, one that our pharmaceutical companies and our food industries created. Do you see the vicious cycle that goes round and round? They’re all in this together, making money together, off of all of us, and it’s time we take this back and join this movement to make ourselves and our country healthy again.

Dr. Deb 9:06Similarly, our pharmaceutical industry has evolved from producing life saving antibiotics and emergency medicines to marketing daily medications that manage but rarely cure any chronic illness and create many other side effects that you’re going to need another medication to manage. The business model here is clear. There’s more profit in treatments than there are in cures.

Dr. Deb 9:35So this brings us to Kennedy’s controversial appointment and the firestorm it has created in both public health circles and the media Love him or hate him, Kennedy has forced us to confront uncomfortable questions about the intersection of corporate power and public health.

Dr. Deb 9:55Robert F Kennedy Jr’s make America healthy again initiative.

Dr. Deb 10:00Of represents one of the most ambitious attempts to reshape American health policy in decades. He’s requested a $500 million boost in the federal health budget specifically earmarked for nutrition education and promoting healthier lifestyles, a dramatic shift from the traditional focus on disease management and pharmaceutical interventions, Kennedy has already begun pressuring major food companies to eliminate artificial dyes linked to behavioral issues in children. I’ve known this for a long time. When I started as a naturopath, I worked with a pioneer, Dr kanetsky, who did allergy testing in his office, I had the pleasure of meeting some of the most exquisite physicians in this industry that were doing cutting edge care back in the early 2000s

Dr. Deb 10:54Dr Kay had known about what food dice did to children for at least 10 years prior to that, and we used to allergy test kids in that office, where we would give them a dye underneath their tongue, and we would watch them to see what happened, and their behaviors completely changed. There were people that would lose their complete ability to focus. Dr Doris Rapp has written and documented allergy testing in her office for decades, and there’s one story that she tells that I will never forget, and it was a teenage boy who suffered from depression, and she was allergy testing him in her office, and she gave him citrus, and when she gave him this food that obviously was not completely natural, he would curl up in a ball and he would cry, and he would talk about committing suicide, and 10 minutes later, she would give him a different dilution, and he was back to normal, just like I’m talki...

Dr. Deb 1:04root cause of neurological conditions, ALS, MS, Parkinson’s dementia, Alzheimer’s disease, and if not treated and addressed, these disorders will not improve and sometimes end very tragically for us. So I want to introduce you guys to my dear friend Andrea today, and she will be a wealth of knowledge for you and hopefully put some of your fears at risk about remediation of your home, but also probably bring up some things that you never knew about, mycotoxin, illness.

AndreaThank you for those, those very kind words. It’s It’s wild that as I hear stories like yours and mine, so often it’s it’s wild how similar they are. And so these topics are so important to bring awareness to, and I appreciate the work that you’re doing to do that. So thank you for for being here and for letting me be here with you.

Dr. DebOh, you are so welcome. So tell us your story. How did this happen to you?

Andrea 2:05Got it? So it’s all, it’s all very ironic. In 2017 we were living in a rental home in Robbinsdale, and we were renting as we were kind of getting out of debt. I was a pre med student and starting up my family with my husband, who I who I met later in life, and our two year old daughter, contracted lead poisoning from our rental home. She She was chewing on a window sill, and I thought I bet there’s lead paint on that window sill. How we tested the window sill, sure enough, there was lead paint. Tested my little girl and she had lead poisoning. We weren’t financially ready to buy a house, but we qualified for just enough. My mom is incredibly smart. She’s been a realtor almost 50 years, and she helped us find a home. And so we found a home that we liked and a modest home, but clean and built in the 90s, so no lead paint. And we had, you know, a general inspection, and it didn’t really raise any red flags. And we moved in. So we moved into the home end of October of 2017 two months, almost two months to the date, later, our five year old dog died. She developed a very sudden neurological disorder. It was very rapid and and it was at the time we didn’t, you know, put pieces together, but it’s interesting that I, I somehow knew it was environmental, like I can’t, but I, but I didn’t put the pieces together. Anyways, my Upon moving in, my health started to decline, but as as it is for so many women,

Andrea 3:54I didn’t connect the dots, because I just had my third child. He was nine months, and I thought, well, maybe this is postpartum. I was experiencing migraines, and that wasn’t typical for me, without being pregnant, and my ears started to ring, I started to experience anxiety that was not typical for me, and it just kind of snowballed from there. And eventually I went into my doctor and I said, I’m having anxiety that’s not typical for me and and for me to go see a doctor over that, if you knew me, you would have to know it was pretty extreme. It was to the point where I couldn’t go to the grocery store and and so it just kind of got worse from there. And then it progressed into migraines that would last months at a time, and my my worst migraine lasted three months day and night. I mean, three consecutive months day and night. And it was so severe that at the time, my husband had to hide the guns in the house because I was I was suffering, and I was begging him to help me die. I mean, if you’ve ever had a migraine, maybe you can understand this. But on top of these migraines that I couldn’t control, I was confused, and

Andrea 5:10I couldn’t remember my children’s names. At one point, I looked at my oldest son and thought he was my baby brother. There was one day my husband came home and I, I wanted to say to him, did you see the email from Grace’s preschool teacher? And I couldn’t find my words. And finally, I just sat there and started crying. And my sweet, loving, patient husband said, Are you asking if I saw the email from Miss Annette? And I said, Yes, yes, that’s it. So I, you know, we made so many doctor visits and in the ER, and we kept saying to these doctors, you know, she’s, I’ve got this migraine, but I’m confused. And they would do CT scans, well, then it was, you need psychiatric help. You need a psychiatric evaluation. And my doctors were very, very frustrated with me.

Andrea 6:01In 2000 end of 2019 2020 I believe I was diagnosed with Lyme disease Bartonella Babesia, and that made sense to me. They think that I’ve had Lyme disease since I was a teenager. And that makes sense. I live in Minnesota, and I love to fish and be in the woods and forage mushrooms. So that made sense. We treated Lyme disease out of pocket for about a year, and by that time, I hadn’t worked in two years. I was mostly bed bound. I had inflammation throughout my body. I was dealing with just a myriad of very strange, debilitating health effects. And we’ve never been a one income family, so we were really struggling. My husband was a chef at the time. It was during, he was during the lockdowns. It was during covid And so his his pay was cut. He was working all the time. And then, you know, then we had like, these crazy out of pocket medical expenses. I said to my doctor at one point, because I wasn’t getting wasn’t getting better, I said, I think I might be living in mold. And I I’ve been reading about the Lyme and mold connection, and he was just like, Oh, I’m not really worried about that. The next time I met with him, I said, Doc, I know I’m living in mold. I can, I can see a little bit of it in my basement. And he says, I’m not worried about it. We’ll deal with it later. Well, later never came because we ran out of money. So by the time we figured out that that it was very the culprit was environmental. We were tapped out, and we didn’t have anywhere to go. And so we moved out to a tent in our backyard with our two small children or two dogs, and by this point, I was ready to take my life and and I I listened to your podcast interview, and it was so wonderful. And I love the fact that you mentioned that mycotoxins can cross the blood brain barrier, and this can cause inflammation in the brain, and that’s important to know, because it’s important for healthcare providers, for social workers, for professionals and for folks to know that mold exposure can manifest as mental health disorders. It can look like anxiety, depression, pans and pandas and kids, personality changes, dementia, you know, all of those things. And so, besides the fact that I was suffering, I was just very unwell with the swelling in my brain. And so I I rewrote my life insurance policy, and I was very aware of when it would pay out. I tripled the coverage, and then I plan to, you know, to take myself out of this world. And my thinking was is, I can’t live like this. I’m suffering. But also I knew my home was toxic. I could feel it. And you know, my husband, who’s got a healthy immune system, didn’t, and I knew I needed to get my kids out of this home and so, so we lived in the tent, and I had these plans in mind, nobody knew. And so I said, Well, if I am going to leave my children motherless, I’m going to fight like heck. So I started reading, because my education was in the sciences. I dove into everything I could. I read textbooks on mold remediation, indoor air quality, environmental testing. I reached out to professionals in the industry. Michael Pinto, he’s a wonderful professional and an educator. He sent me a free textbook. I read it cover to cover. I read everything I could on mold toxicity. I read Dr Neil Nathan’s book toxic. All of his suggested reads.

Andrea 9:43And I, two weeks into reading, I was talking over the heads of the professionals that I had hired, and that was really alarming to me, and they didn’t know what mycotoxins were and and I thought, wow, this is really unregulated so, so I became the professional that we so desperately needed. I recovered my health greatly fresh air and and good food and supporting my detox pathways. And we did remediate our house several times. By the way, the the small bit of visible mold in our basement was extensive. It was throughout our entire basement, everywhere, and it was very, very hidden. We just had no idea.

Andrea 10:30So by the time I recovered, I found a local company here in Minnesota, and I reached out to the owner, and I said, I want to work for you. And says, Well, I don’t know what you would do. You’re hypersensitive. And, you know, we do inspections and mold remediation, and I don’t know what I would do with you. So I chased him down for three months, and I was, we were about to lose the house, and I knew that this is where, where, where God was leading me to to work. This is, you know, all this education I had this is this was a seed that was instilled in my in my heart, to to work in this industry in some capacity. But how? So finally, after three months, I said to him, I said, Listen, if you don’t hire me, I’m going to show up at your doorstep. So he did. He finally and and the first day of work was kind of funny...

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06:20 Alice’s story of how she got into happiness.

09:34 What is Happiness? 

11:16 We have to accept the bad stuff and see it as an opportunity to grow.

12:32 How to get from negativity to that positive perspective. 

15:08 Take the situation and create a story about how lucky you are.

18:17 How do we move from unhappy childhood stories and not be trapped in the past.

24:37 How can people get to know themselves better so that they can recognize the things that other people see on the outside? 

28:35 Your thoughts will always lie to you. They’re always there to protect you.

34:32 What’s another way to look at a bad situation? 

37:36  How can we make positive go dormant?

40:31 The purpose of life.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

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Nationally award-winning author and life expert Alice Inoue has dedicated her life to helping others find answers to life’s challenges. 

As Hawaii’s thought leader and celebrated expert, hundreds of organizations and thousands of individuals have found clarity over the past 20+ years through her work. Her unique brand of life wisdom is featured in her eight books on self-growth and happiness, as well as in her long-running column in MidWeek, Hawaii’s largest publication. 

Combining her vast set of skills and talents with her entrepreneurial drive, she opened Happiness U, a business with a purpose to help both organizations and individuals find unprecedented clarity.

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Transcript of Episode 189

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb, this is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk on this show. I’m your host, Dr. Deb, and I want to talk to you about happiness. You know, there’s a lot of craziness that’s going on in the world today. And finding true happiness can be such a challenge for so many of us, let alone maintaining it, as one goes on. And I think we don’t talk enough about happiness and how to embrace it and keep it going. And what is it all taken? And certainly, what does happiness mean? Right? Happy news to one person can mean something completely different to another person, and understanding where happiness comes from and how do we grab onto it? How do we hold on to it? You know, I’ve watched many people over the years of being in practice, who have been chronically ill, because of an unhappy situation that they were living in, or they had growing up as a child, and they weren’t able to release that. And it embeds into our core and cells in who we are. And it can make us sick. And we don’t know that until we can get out of that situation that’s making us unhappy, and then all of a sudden, we become Well, the problem I find with that, though, is, once that happens, it’s so easy to get trapped into that unhappy lifestyle again, or you get into a new relationship, that’s not exactly the way you want it to be. And our body and our minds go back to those old habits and those old ways and, and they just cause us to be sick again, and cause us to struggle. I’ve watched for many years, even my own mother who’s unhappy, reflecting back into her childhood, and how she really didn’t have a childhood. Many, many people of her era, you know, didn’t have the childhood that they would have wanted. I know it was back in an era where you were seen and not heard. Many children were raised as maids and slaves to be honest and be cruel, and talking exactly what it is, you know, they cleaned the house and did the laundry and did the dishes and did the shopping and worked. They didn’t have that playful, wonderful childhood that so many of us have been gifted to have today. And as a result of that, they’re angry as they get older, and they’re resentful, and they’ve missed out on a lot. And they don’t know how to get past that. And I think in having that struggle, and not being able to make peace with that or forgive. For not having that life. It’s it’s hard and it’s painful. And it leads to depression and anxiety and learning how to make peace with those times and learning to forgive for the life that you you have that wasn’t necessarily what you wanted. If so, so important and critical to finding happiness and finding peace and being able to create the life that you want. Today my guest that I’m going to bring to you, Alice Inoue I’m probably saying her name very very wrong. So we’ll give her an opportunity to tell us how she pronounces it is a happiness guru and she is an author, a life expert. She’s the founder of happiness you she’s an astrologer, and I can’t wait to bring you in to meet her so that you guys can hear exactly from her what it’s like to find happiness. So without further ado, I’m going to bring her in right now. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor

Debra Muth 4:54at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of yours symptoms. Together, we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care. center.com. So welcome back. Without further ado, I’m going to introduce my guests Alice to today and I’m gonna let her pronounce her last name.

Alice Inoue 5:57Alice Inoue

Debra Muth 6:00okay. So Alice, I’m so glad to have you here. We were chatting just before we hit the record button about happiness, and the struggle that so many people have today in our world and the craziness of life that goes on. And you are a happiness experts. So I’m so glad to have you here to talk and give us some tips on how do we find happiness? How do we get over happiness? But before we do that, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into all of this. Yeah,

Alice Inoue 6:33it’s interesting because the name of our company is Happiness U and it’s the letter you and I kind of thought it would be cool University where we learn happiness to just you and what is happiness? And it’s such an odd thing. You think that how can you have a business where you’re teaching that But going back to how I got into it, I didn’t. I didn’t grow up happy contrary to what many people think many people think, Oh, you were born happy, happy parents, and you just live this wonderful life and so awesome that you just gave birth to this idea of Happiness U know, when the opposite is true. I I think I know that my path was meant to do this simply because I started out so unhappy. I added that a negative default, like I just remember not smiling in any pictures, grumpy all the time, just feeling like life wasn’t the way I want it to be. I wanted better at different parents, different lifestyles, everything I wanted was not available to me. And as a consequence, I focused so much on the reality that I saw, which is the lack of what I wanted, that I ended up really just developing really, emotional disorders, mental disorders, like just by me and I was 40 pounds heavier, I ate two, two for my happiness. But then that made me more unhappy because I just didn’t like how I felt and look. So it was just this quagmire of just achiness. Until one day, it’s kind of like we have these defining moments where I was in I was 21 years old, I was in a college class Close to close to graduation. And back then we didn’t have text messages. It was an early 80s. And somebody wrote a note. Do you? Are you ever happy? Do you...

Do not miss these highlights:

07:48 Experience with guided Psilocybin.

08:55 How similar Hiawatha to Psilocybin experience is.

12:24 Just two sessions with MDMA, 67% no longer have a PTSD diagnosis.

13:38 Antidepressants don’t work for everyone, and they seems to have worsening side effects.

16:22 Ketamine for PTSD, pain, depression and anxiety.

19:23 What’s the standard of care for ketamine, and does it have side effects?

22:08 How safe are psychedelics in general?

25:18 Ketamine has proven to be effective in helping curb alcohol and smoking.

26:09 What Psychedelics do in general to your brain. 

30:58 Can someone overdose on a Psychedelic?

35:11 How do people learn more about Psychedelic Medicine?

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Matt has seen firsthand how psychedelics have helped people from different walks of life, and his goal is to “normalize” the conversation and reduce stigma. With an MSc in Psychology & Neuroscience of Mental Health, Matt co-founded two companies dedicated to improving mental health and wellbeing using the power of legal psychedelics. Now, he’s launched HAPPŸŸ, where he and his team are reimagining mental health using guided ketamine therapy. Matt loves to share his journey with psychedelics and mental health, myths and rumors around psychedelic medicine, and how psychedelics can play a powerful role in healing and connection, both for the people that choose to use them and for those that do not.

http://happyy.me

https://www.mattzemon.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/matt.zemon

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matt.zemon/

Transcript of Episode 190

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today, we have a little different topic for you something that we haven’t talked about before, something that’s a little controversial in many aspects. But I’m really excited to talk because I think it’s good for us to explore different topics and different things. So we’re actually going to talk today about psychedelic medicine. Now, what the heck is psychedelic medicine, it sounds like it’s a crazy thing. But it’s actually where people micro dose psychedelic drugs to treat various conditions. You know, in ancient times, especially in shamanic, cultures and practices, people use something called Hiawatha, and they would use that to journey to the upper world or the lower world. And it allowed them to break through the problems they had in their mind where they may not be able to connect to their spiritual world. There are some Native American cultures that have used different drugs, things that we call drugs, they call plants and they truly are plants. But in in the culture that we live in today, we call them drugs. And they would use things like that for ceremony. We’re not necessarily talking about the exact same products or materials, but our guest, Matt Zemon. Today is going to talk to us about psychedelics and what are they? Why do people use them? And you know, what to expect when they’re using them. And I think it’s just a great exploration for us to see how do these things work. Now, Matt has finished or I should say, has firsthand information and knowledge about how psychedelics have helped people in different walks of life. And his goal is to normalize the conversation and reduce the stigma. He has a master’s in psychology and neuroscience and mental health. And he has co founded two companies dedicated to improving mental health and well being using the power of legal psychedelics. Now he is launched happy, where he and his team are reimagining mental health and using guided ketamine therapy, Matt loves to share his journey with psychedelics and mental health and the myths and the rumors around psychedelic medicine, and how psychedelics can play a powerful role in the healing connection for both the for both people that choose to use them, and for those who choose not to. And I think this is a conversation worth having, because so much of what we do in mental health today is not effective. You know, people are depressed, they’re anxious, rightfully so for a lot of people. But the medications that we’re using the SSRIs, and the anti anxiety meds don’t normally work for a lot of people, they will feel better, but they won’t feel great. And they will say I don’t feel like myself. And now we have this huge stigma around even anti anxiety meds, things like Lorazepam and clonazepam that had been on the market for years. I mean, we’re talking 25-30 years. valium is another good one. And we have people saying, wait a minute, sorry, you’ve been on this for 15 years. We have a different belief of this today than we had, you know, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, when someone put you on this, you can’t have this anymore. And we’re just stopping people cold turkey on these medications. That is so unfortunate and unfair to that person, because they don’t have an alternative. Nobody’s offering up an alternative for them. And so they’re left with being physically addicted to these medications to being psychologically dependent on them, because that’s what controls their anxiety. And that’s what helps them get through the day and function. And yet, we’re not recognizing,

Debra Muth 4:41nor are we compassionate about what these people are going to go through when we take these medications away from them. And that’s truly the problem that I see in all of the medications that we’re using today. That down the road, the government and the DEA He is going to claim that you can’t use this anymore because of these different reasons. So, without further ado, I’m gonna bring my guest on Matt and we are going to chat all about how psychedelics are working today. Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head, or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations. Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health, tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long haulers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenity health care. center.com. All right, welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness now. I’m Dr. Deb and I have with me Matt, am I going to say your name right. I know Zeeman that is it. All right. There we go. Well, welcome to the show. I’m so excited to have you here today we have an interesting conversation to talk about. And tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got involved in this.

Matt Zemon 6:58I’m happy to do that. And it’s it’s I’ve been looking forward to this conversation and Dr. Deb, you have such a, you have a unique audience. And then the challenges that they work through, I think ties right into what we’re going to talk about today. So I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, I’m kind of an accidental psychonaut a few years ago, I’m almost four now, I had the chance to do a guided psilocybin experience that really just changed my worldview. And that led me to going back to school to get a master’s in psychology and neuroscience into really doing a deep dive into the world of psychedelic medicine, which then I realized, okay, there’s a lot of stuff out there, but it’s it’s either hard to read, it’s too opinionated, or it’s too woowoo. And I wanted to create a book that was kind of for everybody to read. And that’s where psychedelics where everyone came from.

Debra Muth 7:46Oh, that’s awesome. Tell us about your guided What did you call it? Because I haven’t heard that term before.

Matt Zemon 7:53It’s a psilocybin is it’s the it’s the active ingredient in magic mushrooms. So that’s, that’s probably how you know, it’s yeah, it was it was um, I wasn’t a big drinker. I really wasn’t. I tried cannabis a few times. It just wasn’t my thing. And some, some really trusted friends said hey, why don’t you come do this guided magic mushroom journey with us? I was like, I don’t know, I’m not sure like what you like...

Do not miss these highlights:

07:47 Freeze Dryer and the disadvantages.

10:46 Anything that’s dry, can go inside the Mylar bags and be sealed for many years, and in a moist situation, you really want to can.

12:41 How you want to look at your food storage.

15:49 Why Mylar bags should be put inside of plastic totes.

17:32 Stockpile what it is you need and want – Have enough food sources that are high in vitamin C.

20:34 Your supplements can be frozen. 

28:21 Store Grains – They’re easy to store and they provide a good amount of calories for you and they fill your belly. 

30:34 Store Rice because it’s very high in calories, has lots of vitamins, minerals,  and it’s easy to prepare.

31:23 Store beans and legumes – they’re literally a powerhouse of nutrients.

32:57 Potato flakes are great fast food survival Food. 

34:06 You can have dehydrated, frozen or dried vegetables and spices.

36:00 Store sugar because it’s a good preservative and store honey because of its sweetening properties and medicinal properties.

38:05 Salt is a priority in food storage because it’s something that we cannot produce on our own property. It’s a great item for bartering. It’s critical in food preservation and health.

39:14 Store baking soda for cleaning, personal hygiene and also for medicinal purposes. Also, store Vinegar for food preparation and recipes. 

41:07 Store ascorbic acid powder. It’s essentially vitamin C and is needed for health and life.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

Transcript of Episode 185

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb, this is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today you see a very different background for me than you’re used to seeing. And that’s because I’m up in northern Wisconsin, enjoying a little r&r time with my husband, we’re on a nice little lake here. And my husband and I are going to do some hiking, and just kind of really enjoy the fall weather. And I wanted to talk today about fall preparation. So we are very close to fall. And when we think of fall, we think of harvesting fall harvest, we’re harvesting apples and peaches and all of the things that we grew during the summer months, and really getting ready for the hearty winter that’s coming. Now whether you live in a really cold state like me, or you live in a warm state either way, winter is kind of that downtime for us that preparation time, that hibernation time. And I think today, more than ever, we need to be thinking about what are we doing to prepare for the winter. Now, you’ve seen and heard me talk on this show before about healthy eating organic food, you know, buying from farmers markets buying from the local farmers, so you know how your food is prepared, how it’s grown, how they treat their animals, all of that kind of thing. But what we’ve never covered is how to store food for the winter. So all of our ancestors have had to do food storage. And you know, when we didn’t have refrigeration, we didn’t have electricity, it wasn’t as easy as walking into the basement or into the garage and throwing something into a chest freezer, or having our refrigerator where we could store food, you know, for at least a week at a time and in our freezer for months or even a year or more. But they had to plan and they had to prepare. And they had to can, that was the only way that we had options for food storage back in the day. And there are still many people today that do canning and do food storage. And if you’re not one of them, I would really encourage you to start looking at the options and the training on canning and freezing fresh food. You know, there’s been a lot of talk about food shortages coming. And a lot of people have said to me, Well, I don’t know what you’re talking about. My grocery store has plenty of food still. And I see videos all over of people who do not have food on their shelf. And a good eye opener for me was Labor Day weekend, we were up visiting some family and the local store there has never been out of food, even in a Labor Day weekend. And this Labor Day, it really wasn’t as busy as it normally is. So I was very surprised when I walked into the grocery store at the end of the weekend. And there was empty shelves not in like where the noodles and the canned items are. But where the fresh food was the food

3:44fruit section and the vegetable sections were completely barren compared to what they are like there was one whole section that didn’t have any watermelon or cantaloupe and strawberries. And granted this is all their cut up product. So it could have been that they didn’t have people to do it. It could be that, you know, they just didn’t have the product itself. But what I found interesting was that section was empty, and the section where the vegetables were was empty. And I’ll actually throw some pictures so you guys can see what I’m talking about in this video as well. But in all the years that I had been going there, and it’s been well over 20 some years, I’ve never seen that before in my life. I’ve never been into the grocery store where aisles are empty. And I’ve been to my local grocery store and the noodle aisle is empty and there’s no peanut butter on the shelves and and I say those things because my husband loves noodles and he loves peanut butter and and I don’t know what he would do without either of those. But I took note to that and other sections of the grocery store are fine, but some are really problematic and So I think it’s important for us to heed the warnings of the people that are out speaking about the food crisis that’s happening. I like to listen to Mike Adams quite a bit. And he is a scientist. He’s also in the food industry, he is buying raw ingredients. And we know how much of a challenge that is. For those of you who know that I used to own GF naturals, and GF naturals was a gluten free flour mix. We had to close that business at the end of last year, because of raw ingredients, we could not purchase enough raw ingredients, we didn’t have the purchasing power to purchase what they required us to do, which was a pallet full, so a pallet full of any grain is about 2500 pounds, they were leaving that purchasing power to all of the big companies. So small companies, some of your favorite boutique e-companies, you may see going out of business, simply because they can’t purchase like they used to. Because if they can’t purchase in this large bulk, they’re not going to be able to afford to purchase the raw ingredients to make their products. So we will see more and more of that. And we will see more of the larger industries being able to maintain, but our smaller businesses are not going to be able to make it if they’re having that same requirement that they required of us. So just some of these little things have made me really start thinking that we need to be preparing, we need to be really buckling down on what we have in store what we have in stock. Now in my case, I have a large family. So I have three children. They’re all married, they all have children’s have a very big family. And I love it. But when when they all come to dinner, I cook for 10 to 15 people at least. And that’s not including my brother in law’s and my sister in law’s that comment as well. So as you’re thinking harvest season, Thanksgiving is coming. How many people are you cooking for? How many people are you preparing for? I think it’s important to start thinking ahead and start planning ahead. In one of our groups that we host at Serenity healthcare center, there was a discussion on food preparation a couple of weeks ago, and one of the gals had shared with us that her kids had been Food Prepping for several years, and they have a food.

7:45It’s about a dehydrator, it’s a freeze dryer, sorry, freeze dryer. So they freeze dry all their food and package them in Mylar bags, and they use these little oxygen packs and put them in the Mylar bags. And the oxygen packs actually suck the air out of the bag. So it keeps the food fresh. And when you do that your food can stay fresh for 10 15 20 years, depending on what food you’re putting in there. And I think that’s an amazing idea. I think it’s an easy way to prep. However, the freeze dryer is expensive. It’s about $3,000. And I thought about this, like maybe this would be a really good thing to have. And I would encourage you, if you’re thinking about doing that, go watch some of the videos of the food that is unpacked from it, because that’s what changed my mind from it. My husband and I were looking at it and you know, they freeze dried meat and they freeze dried literally everything yogurt, ice cream, everything. But when it comes out of the package, it’s hard. And I’m gonna just talking a little hard, it’s hard. And you have to hydrate it. Now some of the commercials for the freeze dryer will show that they just, you know, pour some hot water over it. And it moistens up and it’s beautiful. But if you actually look at some of the videos of people that are doing it, it’s like leather, it’s like jerky. And if you’d like jerky, that’s great. And the one gentleman that we watched, was pouring all these sauce...

Food is the building block for neurotransmitters. These neurotransmitters in the brain have a direct effect on our memory, mood, and anxiety levels. When certain neurotransmitters are deficient the symptoms of anxiety and depression increase. By adjusting your diet and taking in foods that heal our bodies we can combat these symptoms. 

Do not miss these highlights:

07:00 When you’re in that state of chronic stress, dieting, under-eating, and exercising more intensely, can add more stress onto your system, keeping you in a perpetual state of that chronic stress.

10:02 Nutrition and movement are a huge foundational part of our mental health. But the perspective shift is everything, meaning you take the focus off of weight loss, you take the focus off of working out to gain muscle and look fit, and instead use it to heal. 

11:44 All of those things that we put in our body that creates inflammation and ultimately more physical stress.

14:46 All these ingredients in every single place you look have a toxin or chemicals. Yes, the effects might not happen overnight, but these are slow decades or over a decade of breakdowns on your body.

18:40 Helping people with their mental health through nutrition and other holistic methods.

21:33 How does dopamine being off affect our desire to want to eat and then directly affect our mood?

24:23 If we’re not eating enough protein, that can be a huge detriment to building these neurotransmitters.

27:25 Start to do those very simple somatic practices to start to shift the nervous system out of that fight or flight or freeze mode, which is where we experience anxiety, or depression, and get back into the safety mode or the parasympathetic nervous system.

31:45 Start to trust yourself, start to trust your body, start to trust yourself to be able to handle when things get a little bit rocky or low. 

32:52 Focusing on protein, vegetables, healthy fats and making small shifts to just eat primarily whole foods, foods that aren’t processed or minimally processed, are going to be really helpful.

35:53 The brain has the ability to grow and change throughout our lives. Neuroplasticity, foods, as well as exercise help increase our production of BDNF, which is like miracle growth for the brain.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Over the last 11 years as a NYC based Registered Dietitian & fitness professional, Christine Coen has transformed her practice from a traditional weight loss & fitness focus into a convergence of the powerful impact of movement & nutrition on mental health. Christine’s own battle & eventual overcoming of depression, anxiety, & emotional eating sparked this change, as movement became her “anti-depressant” and was a major catalyst in her recovery. 

Today, she serves people as a Mental Health Nutritionist & Coach, helping them resolve the physical causes of depression & anxiety using Natural Solutions. She works with her clients through online programs coaching them to take empowered action on their mental health through optimizing nutrition for mental health, healing metabolic issues, supporting gut health, and nervous system regulation techniques to enjoy optimal wellbeing, energy and feel alive in their life!!

www.wakeupyourwarrior.com

https://www.instagram.com/christine.coen/

Free Masterclass: How to Naturally Improve Mental Health with Nutrition, Nervous System Regulation & Natural Methods  https://christinecoen.samcart.com/products/naturalmentalhealth

Do not miss these highlights:

06:01 Candace’s story of addiction and recovery

13:01 How does somebody know they have a problem – The difference between a habit and an addiction

14:53 The real problem is the denial that’s going on with people who have an addiction

15:59 The actual addiction, the actual behavior or the substance isn’t really the problem, the problem is what’s underneath – what’s the need for someone to be having an addictive behavior

18:23 Addiction is progressive, there’s something called “tolerance” involved in addiction

19:11 The role of a family in addiction

22:24 What’s the difference between enabling and codependency

24:28 It’s not a loving act to do anything that contributes to keeping an addict in their addiction

27:05 Even if there’s a genetic predisposition in your family,  even if addiction is running in your family, it doesn’t mean that you’re also going to be an addict –  It’s really about choice

31:43 The family is so important in the addiction recovery journey – Let your family member who’s suffering from addiction know that they are loved

34:16 The difference between self-respect and self-esteem

41:08 How to prevent yourself from going into another addiction when giving up one addiction

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Candace Plattor is an Addictions Therapist in private practice, where she specializes in working with the family and other loved ones of people who are struggling with addiction, in her unique and signature Family Addiction Counselling and Therapy Program. As a former addict with over 34 years clean and sober, Candace has learned that overcoming addiction is a family condition: everyone in the family is affected by addiction and everyone needs to heal. For more than three decades, she has been helping both addicts and their loved ones understand their dysfunctional behaviours and make healthier life choices. 

The results Candace achieves have been astounding: addicts stop using and families regain their lives from the ravages of addiction. Not only has her success led to a waiting list of clients but she is a sought after leader in the field of addictions. As the developer of the LoveWithBoundaries Family Addiction Counselling and Therapy method, Candace now works with her team of top counsellors and coaches, helping both the families and their addicts break the devastating cycle of addiction for good.

IIf addiction is causing pain and suffering in your family, and you’re ready to do what it takes to reclaim your sanity and serenity so you can live your best life, you can contact Candace for a free 30-minute consultation. 

Website – www.LoveWithBoundaries.com

Facebook – Candace@candaceplattor.com

LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/ACoAAAFH2m0BN2RYbgI3y0xe0oh6S-ePF-d6JFY/ 

Twitter –https://twitter.com/candaceplattor

Transcript of episode #164:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Hi, and welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And today we are going to talk about addiction. You know, addiction is everywhere. It touches the lives of everyone, whether it’s an exercise addiction, a food addiction, sugar is a common thing for us. Maybe it’s even something like work, or it’s it could be a bad addiction. It could be something that’s healthy. But when it goes to extremes, it’s considered an addiction. And I think all of us know someone who’s had a problem with addiction, all of us know someone who’s had some kind of issue themselves, maybe with a struggle of a healthy habit or a bad habit. It doesn’t really seem to matter. And I’m rambling now and I apologize for that. But today, my guest is Candace Plattor and she’s an addiction therapist in a private practice where she specializes in working with the family, and other loved ones of people who are struggling with addiction in her unique and signature family addiction counseling and therapy program. As a former addict herself with over 34 years clean and sober. Candace has learned that overcoming addiction is a family connect condition. Everyone in the family is affected by addiction and everyone in the family needs to heal. For more than three decades, she has been helping both addicts and their loved ones understand their dysfunctional behaviors and make healthier life choices. The results Candace achieves have been astounding addicts stop using and families regain their lives from the ravages of addiction.

Not only has her success led to a waiting list of clients, but she is a sought after leader in the field of addictions. As the developer of the love with boundaries, family addiction counseling and therapy method, Candace now works with her team of top counselors and coaches helping both the families and their addicts break the devastating cycle of addiction for good if addiction is causing pain and suffering in your family and you’re ready to do what it takes to reclaim your sanity and serenity. So you can live your best life, you can contact Candace for a free 30 minute consultation as well.

So I’m going to bring Candace on here and we’re going to talk about addiction. We’re going to talk about how it affects the family. And she’s also going to share with us tips and ideas of things that people can do, who are suffering from addiction, overcome addiction, and get their life back and have their family life back the way they’ve always intended it to be. So right after this message from our sponsor, we’re going to bring Candace back and we’re going to talk all about addiction.

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Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have with me today Candace Plattor. And we are going to talk about love with boundaries. And she was going to tell us a very personal story about how she got involved in this. So Candace, welcome to the show.

Candace Plattor 4:51Hello. Hi, Dr. Deb and everyone.

Debra Muth 4:54Well welcome. So Candace, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Candace Plattor 4:58Well, I An addictions therapist in beautiful Vancouver, Canada. And I have been doing this workload at what I do specifically is I work with the families of people who are addicted. I also work with the addicts but I, I primarily work I specialize in working with the families because, you know, they’re suffering and struggling right along with the addicts they love so much. And there’s so little help for them out there.

Debra Muth 5:31Absolutely. I’m so glad that you’re doing that.

Candace Plattor 5:34Thank you. Yeah, yeah. So. So I’ve been doing that work for about 30 years now. And I myself 34 years clean and sober.

Debra Muth 5:48Congratulations!

Candace Plattor 5:50thank you. And July, it will be 35 years. And this occurred because I have Crohn’s disease. And I was diagnosed with Crohn’s disease about 50 years ago, when nobody knew about Crohn’s disease. Nobody knew what it was. Nobody was really diagnosing it. In fact, I was often told that it was in my head, which it was not, you know. And I was very sick, and very unhappy. And what the doctors in the early 70s, what the doctors did was, because they didn’t know what else to do for me. And so they threw a lot of addictive medications at me. So they gave me things like Valium and out of them and they gave me things like OxyContin and codeine and morphine. And they kept renewing the prescriptions. They kept refilling the prescriptions like month after month, year after year, and I started smoking more pot, which I had used recreationally it wasn’t a problem before that, but it really helped the symptoms and it helped. It helped the shame of that kind of disease. So for anybody who doesn’t know, Crohn’s disease is an inflammat...

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Transcript for Episode #161:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now.

I’m your host, Dr. Deb and I have with you with me today, Dr. Chalmers and he and I are going to talk all about hormones, sex, testosterone, and how it not only affects your ability for a great sex life, but also how it affects your cognitive ability, and the ability for you to stay in the game longer in your work life in your home life. And we even talk about why moms need to take care of themselves, and use testosterone so that they can benefit from all of the amazing things that hormones do for us. I am super excited to have Dr. Chalmers with me today. Because all of you know that I love talking about hormones, it’s one of my favorite topics to talk about. And there are so many aspects that hormones can benefit us if we know how to do them. And we know how to do them. Right. So let’s get started here, right after a message from one of our sponsors.

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Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. And I have an exciting guest with me today. And we are going to talk about one of my favorite topics that you guys know I love to talk about. So welcome to the show.

Dr. Matt Chalmers 2:56Thank you very much. How are you guys?

We’re fantastic here. Where are you from?

Frisco, Texas. So basically Dallas.

Debra Muth 3:03All right, so you’re in the heat of the area. I’m in the north. So we’re Wisconsin. It’s cold here right now. But actually, we’re having a heatwave. It’s like 39 degrees today. So we’re loving it.

Dr. Matt Chalmers 3:16You can have all of that.

Debra Muth 3:18Well, I say the same thing in the summertime, you can have the heat of Texas.

Dr. Matt Chalmers 3:22I’ll take it. I’ll take it. It’s a fair trade.

Debra Muth 3:25Alright. Well tell us a little bit about yourself.

Dr. Matt Chalmers 3:29So, you know, it’s kind of funny, because the way that I got into the wellness game, I had a patient come in for a disk issue. And he just sold his business for $27 million. The guy’s a yummy, 60 years old. And I start talking about like, what are you going to do? That sounds amazing. I know what I would do. I said, there’s this really cool path where you land in Normandy and you go down, you follow this world war two trail unit in Italy. And it’s it’s great. And he has stopped his My knees hurt so bad. When I get to the top of the stairs, I gotta sit down arrest because I can’t walk my dogs around the block without getting tired. He’s like, so I’m not going to Italy. He said there’s some restaurants I want to try. And there’s some TV shows I want to catch up on. He’s like, so that’s my plan. I’m like, okay, cool. So I walk out the room, and I just kind of lost it. I was like, This guy has worked his whole life. He’s got all the money in the world. He’s still young, but he’s traded his health and so much that he cannot do any of the things that you’d want to do when you retire. I said, that’s I can’t be me. How do I not be that person. So that’s led me on this long journey of figuring out the best way to look forward and be proactive and fix things before they happen. And so that’s basically what wellness is for me. And so that’s kind of where this all started and how I kind of got into it. So that’s more or less what’s going on in a nutshell.

Debra Muth 4:43I love that Dr. Chalmer. So I see that same thing. There’s so many people who have worked their entire life to get to a place where now they have the time, money and no energy and no physical capacity to do what they love. And this leads us into the company procession of women, right? Because women do this all the time, we burn the candle at both ends, we’re working hard. We’re given our love and our affection to the kids and to everyone else, until it comes time to give that same love and affection to our partners. And then we can’t do that anymore, because we’ve given it all away someplace else. Correct. So tell us how you got interested in working with the female population.

Dr. Matt Chalmers 5:25So it’s kind of strange. I didn’t really I wasn’t really ever geared towards women, I do kind of more or less the same amount of work with women than I do with men. The problem is that nobody does any work with women. So it just kind of looks like I do a tremendous amount of things for women. And I’m just like, No, I just, they’re just people. And so you know, I work on them, like I work on them. But like I said, No one works on women. I mean, I try so hard to push back against the stereotype that women get the shaft in every aspect of life. Because I don’t think that’s true, but it is 100% true in medicine. We still have women who their doctors won’t prescribe them testosterone. We have women who their doctors, you know, are not looking at them properly. They’re not looking at the psychological function. They’re not looking at, you know, the stresses that go into these women. So it’s, it’s very, very, I just feel like there...

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Transcription of Episode #139:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome back to let’s talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb, I have with me today Natasha C Dewhirst, who is a CEO of lead from within therapy and coaching. She is the founder of learning to be Institute and creator of burnout, reset and recovery. I can’t wait to talk to Natasha today. You know, so many times as I’ve been in practice and spoken to women, I’ve heard stories over the years of how burnt out they are from taking care of everyone else, doing everything for everyone else, and forgetting to take about take care of themselves. And this is a very common practice that happens to us. And we need to take a step back and understand why as women were such strong caregivers, and how do we help protect ourselves from truly getting burnt out and just losing the passion in life for everything that we do as women. So I want to share with you a little bit about Natasha, and then I’m going to have her jump in and tell us a little bit about herself. So Natasha is known as a rare priceless find in a packed industry for getting right to the heart of her client’s challenges and creating sustainable results that matter most to them. Natasha speaks regularly on the impact of adverse childhood experiences on creating a lack of self trust as adults, and how it depletes the immune system. She has experienced firsthand the impact of living in survival, which shows up as symptoms like burnout, perfectionism, negativity, automatic thoughts, and poor emotional well being. Now Natasha supports clients whose lives and business performances are also sabotaged. With that, let me bring Natasha on and introduce her to you guys and have her share her story with us. Today’s episode is brought to you by Vibrant Female. Now we’re all trying to build a fulfilled life. One that’s exciting, fun, and leaves us fulfilled and energized. But we don’t all have the energy the drive or the bodies we want. So I’ve created the Vibrant Female Coaching Program. And you know, I have just recorded a training on how to supercharge your life with maximum brain function, optimal energy. And yes, I’m going to say it mind blowing sex and reawaken the female goddess inside of you. Now, who wants this amazing free webinar, if you do, just hop over to vibrant female.com slash training, and it’ll be in the show notes here as well. And you can get access to this free program where you can learn all about the things that I did to regenerate my life, get the body that I want. And yes, have mind blowing sex as well, while running a business, taking care of clients and raising my family. So check us out. It’s the vibrant female health program. And it is at vibrant female calm. And for your free webinar training. It’s vibrant female.com slash training. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness. Now I have Natasha with me today and you guys are in for a true treat. We are going to have a great conversation about burnout and how we get there. And she’s going to share a lot of information with not only how we got there, but how to get out of it as well. So Natasha, welcome today.

Natasha C Dewhirst 4:13Thank you so much for having me on the show. Super excited.

Debra Muth 4:17Thank you. So tell us a little bit about yourself. How did you become the founder of your company?

Natasha C Dewhirst 4:24Okay, well, again, very interesting how everything kind of links back to, you know, how we take care of ourselves and where we end up. And so for me, I had a long journey playing dancing with burnout during my career. And the culmination of that which we may go into in a minute was setting up my company, because I had found that when I was in the midst of burnout that the support out there just wasn’t quite pulling me where I needed to go and I My, my doctor was fantastic. But she was, you know, she was dealing with a lot of people. And our hospital system were kind of like, Well, you know, we can’t find anything coming up in your bloods, but we can see that you’re in this place of being completely exhausted and worn out. So how about you just go rest. And you know, and I knew that there was just a bit more to it. And it took me so long to keep reading and keep listening to people thought leaders, you know, how you know, the mind and the body are connected, and how past experiences, even though we may not have seen them as particularly significant to set up these beliefs and the stories that then live our lives. And so when I really kind of held myself, and then saw how complex that journey had been, and how long it took, I was like, I don’t want anybody else to have to spend that long trying to get themselves back into where they need to be. So I felt called at that point to set up my company.

Debra Muth 6:09Oh, that’s a great story. And I think that’s how a lot of women start their companies, right? They’re looking for our solution for themselves or their families, and they can’t find it. And a lot of amazing companies are birthed out of that problem, because we have a solution for something.

Natasha C Dewhirst 6:27Absolutely. And of course, when you’re in burnout, or you’re completely stressed out, and you’re exhausted, you know, it’s very hard to do that research and find, and so you know, to provide that kind of weigh in and provide some easy free information for people. So they’re on the right track that, you know, it’s such a gift to offer that. Absolutely.

Debra Muth 6:48And it really helps us get out of our hole to write because we’re looking for solutions for ourselves. If we have it, we know o...

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[15:34] Myths about autism

[22:05] A look into the challenges they faced navigating the autism world and how to overcome it

[22:51] Recognizing what’s causing that behavior and  having an outlet or having a way to divert so they can express themselves

[24:40] Resources for parents who think their child may have autism and for those who have a child with autism and struggling with it

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Transcription of Episode #135:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s talk Wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Well, welcome back to let’s talk wellness. Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb, and I am interviewing today Gary Martinez. He is an inspirational speaker. He is the father of two. He runs digital autism COURSE THE STAR program. He is an author of living life through their eyes, our journey together on the autism spectrum, and also a personal fitness trainer. I’m really excited to be interviewing Gary today to talk about autism because I feel as though Autism is one of those unspoken conversations or unspoken topics that we have. And it doesn’t have to be this horrible, debilitating thing. It can be uplifting and positive. So let’s get started. I’m Dr. Deb, founder of serenity healthcare center. I want to thank you for joining our let’s talk wellness now podcast. It has been such a pleasure to share our knowledge. With so many people. We are averaging about 25,000 downloads an episode. And that is amazing because it’s showing us how much people want to learn about health and wellness. at Serenity Health Care Center, we have had the pleasure of changing lives for over 8500 clients, both men, women and their children. As a result of this, I have created serenity you know University Learning Center where you can access all of my knowledge that I have developed over 25 years of practice at your fingertips in an easy to find index library, you will have access to this dashboard 24 seven, it will be like having your own personal natural path at your beck and call. Anytime a day. I’d like to encourage you to check it out at Serenity view.com. So welcome back to the show. I’m Dr. Deb, your host and Gary Martinez is my guest today. Gary, welcome to the show.

Gary Martinez 2:30Thanks, Dr. Deb, happy to be here.

Debra Muth 2:32Thank you. So tell us a little bit about yourself.

Gary Martinez 2:36Alright, so I am a father of two I have a 11 year old son and Christian and then a 15 year old daughter named Monica. I’ve been a personal fitness trainer since 2012 2014, I decided to go independent so I can work at my own work on my own schedule, and have more time for my kids and so I can also reach more people and work with different populations. I do also have a massage background, So that kind of helps in ties in with what I do with, especially with my daughter, Monica.

Debra Muth 3:12Oh, that’s awesome.

Gary Martinez 3:14That’s that’s a short quick on me.

Debra Muth 3:16Awesome. So how did you get interested into helping in the autism world?

Gary Martinez 3:24Because it’s our everyday journey, you know, with myself and my daughter, Monica is just, you know, in the very beginning, when we were diagnosed, I didn’t know anything. I didn’t know what that word was, you know, what is autism. But we also do have sensory processing disorder. So I didn’t know what those what is that language and just that in the beginning, my daughter could not talk. So she was suffering, having meltdowns, and I felt like a helpless, pretty much a worthless parent. So I wanted to take the step where I was like, okay, you need to become an athlete for your daughter’s life. So that got me involved in starting with self education by going to our first therapies. And then on my own, staying up really late and just doing a lot of self education to learn a lot more through books and articles and then going to conferences, and that was the starting point for me was to still learn more to sock and help my daughter.

Debra Muth 4:21So your daughter Monica has been diagnosed with autism. How old was she when she was diagnosed?

Gary Martinez 4:27That question right there. It’s kind of hard because we had to go to different doctors, different specialists. But I know we started our therapies around 2013 I want to say, so it’s right around that time. So we’re gonna say like we’ll say roughly like around six.

Debra Muth 4:46It’s really difficult to get an autism diagnosis early on. Right? Yeah, exactly. It’s very challenging. I think people don’t want to give that diagnosis very easily. But unfortunately, when that happens, that also means you don’t get access to the services that you need for your daughter or your child to heal and to have abilities to learn things or do things better, because those services aren’t available until you have that diagnosis.

Gary Martinez 5:19True. And for us, I think we were delayed a little bit because what I’ve learned is a lot of times girls get diagnosed later, because a lot of time they say, Well, you know, they’re just, they’re just being a girl, you know, she’s being a little ditzy. You know, with Monica’s older sister at that time, who’s two years older than her, she started out as a very shy child. So I was like, okay, maybe that might be true, but it wasn’t. So like you said, you know, we had to play catch up. Yeah.

Debra Muth 5:47Can you talk a little bit about what your experience was, like, going through that time of trying to get that diagnosis?

Gary Martinez 5:55It was just, it was very frustrating, you know, I was just a parent in panic mode. I didn’t know, basically, you know, what was going on, you know, we’re going this to this specialist and this specialists. And it was just, it was really hard. So I’m just glad that once we found out, no, we were diagnosed, that was our first step. And now we get to go to some of these early intervention therapies. And that was like the first step to learn about what actually helps Monica out?

Debra Muth 6:29What kind of advice would you give parents that are in that position that you were a few years ago, to maybe make that process easier? Or to advocate for their child differently? What have you learned now that you wish you would have known them? I guess, is the question.

Gary Martinez 6:44Okay. Yeah, it was just that, you know, there’s support groups, like in your city, that, you know, you can, if you’re on social media, you can, you know, you can type the word autism support and see what lands there and you know, that’s a way to start to meet people in a community to know that you’re not alone. And that, of course, people ask a lot of questions in there. And you can find our resources, like, if you have a, if that parent has a question about something like we’re, where can I go for this, or what people are going to help you in there. So that’s a directory, it’s a really good resource to help you out in the beginning. And, and you know, just during your whole entire journey.

Debra Muth 7:23So if somebody is suspecting their child is different, what would make them think to bring up to a practitioner, that they’re concerned about autism? What kinds of things did you see in Monica, that now looking back, you would say, Oh, yeah, you know, I maybe didn’t have an experience with autism. So I didn’t know. But now I would know, and I would tell a parent, Hey, your child’s exhibiting this, you might think about autism.

Gary Martinez 7:51Right? If they’re, you know, if you call your child’s name, and they’re not, they’re not answering you, after, you know, one time two times, three times that’s like, that’s like a flag right there. They, they’re just not there their body languages and like, towards you, when you’re trying to communicate with them. They’re more or less their own way, and they’re very isolated. Just doing something on their own. That’s, that’s very repetitive for them. It’s just, you know, that just looks a little different. You know,

Debra Muth 8:23Have you experienced what we call stimming? with Monica at all?

Gary Martinez 8:28Yes, yes. Yes. So, you know, flapping the hands rocking back and forth. walking in circles are, are the top three for us?

Debra Muth 8:39So some of those kinds of experiences when you see your child doing some of those things, obviously, some to extent could be normal, but when it’s an extended period of time, or you see them do that, when they’re maybe under a little more stress, or more agitated, would be something that a parent would want to watch for.

Gary Martinez 8:57Exactly, yeah...

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[5:41] Using the technique of muscle testing, she started to blend oils to stimulate her adrenal glands with success. 

[10:57] A look  into the function of the parasympathetic nervous and the vagus system

[15:52] Utilising essential oils on the go, not only at home

[18:34] Triggering her parasympathetic helped her deal with trauma that was occurring and helped her deal with a wrongful death lawsuit that was occuring

[23:04] When you’re prioritizing survival, you’re down-regulating everything that’s not in immediate survival, and that includes turning on your immune system

[27:00] A look at her company Vibrant Blue Oils and getting your body back into balance with essential oils

Resources Mentioned

Free gift: https://boostthebrainbook.com/gift/

What if you could improve your health & increase your productivity? Find out how with the Vibrant Female Coaching Program at https://vibrantfemale.com/traning

About our Guest:

Jodi Sternoff Cohen is a bestselling author, award-winning journalist, functional practitioner, and founder of Vibrant Blue Oils, where she has combined her training in nutritional therapy and aromatherapy to create unique proprietary blends of organic and wild-crafted essential oils. She has helped over 50,000 clients heal from brain-related challenges, including anxiety, insomnia, and autoimmunity.

For the past ten years, she has lectured at wellness centers, conferences, and corporations on brain health, essential oils, stress, and detoxification. She has been seen in The New York Times, Wellness Mama, Elephant Journal, and numerous publications. Her website, vibrantblueoils.com, is visited by over 300,000 natural health seekers every year, and she has rapidly become a top resource for essential oils education on the Internet today

https://vibrantblueoils.com/

Facebook: @vibrantblueoils

Instagram: @vibrantblueoils

Transcription of Episode #134:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:15Everyone, it is a great, beautiful fall day I think we are in our third day of fall. And it is absolutely gorgeous today, where I’m from, and I can’t wait to bring to you today, my guest Jody Cohen. Jody is a best selling author, award winning journalist, functional practitioner and the founder of vibrant blue oils, where she has combined her training of nutritional therapy and aroma therapy to create a unique proprietary blend of organic and well crafted essential oils. She has helped over 50,000 clients heal from brain related challenges, including anxiety, insomnia, and autoimmunity. What a great way of healing people. And today with what’s going on in our world more than ever, we need to be calmed. And we need our immune systems to be strong. So Jody is going to talk with us today about the parasympathetic nervous system, and this state of the parasympathetic, how your body can heal itself, and what kinds of things happen when you’re out of balance. And she’s also going to share with us some of her favorite tips on how oils can bring balance back to your health, and how she’s recommending this for people today. So I don’t want to wait any longer. We need to bring God in, we need to start having this powerful conversation. So let me welcome Jody to the show. Thank you for joining us, my dear.

Debra Muth 2:02Today’s episode is brought to you by vibrant female. Now we’re all trying to build a fulfilled life. One that’s exciting, fun, and leaves us fulfilled and energized. But we don’t all have the energy or the drive or the bodies we want. So I’ve created the vibrant female coaching program. And you know, I have just recorded a training on how to supercharge your life with maximum brain function, optimal energy. And yes, I’m going to say it, mind blowing sex and reawaken the female goddess inside of you. Now, who wants this amazing free webinar, if you do, just hop over to vibrant female.com slash training, and it’ll be in the show notes here as well. And you can get access to this free program where you can learn all about the things that I did to regenerate my life, get the body that I want. And yes, have mind blowing sex as well, while running a business, taking care of clients and raising my family. So check us out. It’s the vibrant female health program. And it is that vibrant female.com and for your free webinar training. It’s vibrant female.com slash training.

Debra Muth 3:28Well, Welcome back, everybody. This is Dr. Deb from let’s talk wellness. Now I have Jody with me and I’m so excited to talk to her. We were talking a little bit on our break here and she is going to be a fabulous guest for you guys. So Jody, welcome.

Jodi Cohen 3:41Oh my gosh, thanks. Thanks for having me.

Debra Muth 3:43So Jody, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Jodi Cohen 3:47Yeah, so I my journey into health was really driven by my own personal experiences. I, I bought I was healthy, and I had my first kid who was easy. And then I had my second kid who was not. And I was reading every parenting book I could find. And one day we were at a birthday party and a friend complimented me that my son was being well behaved. And then some other mom passed out for snack, I think it was Ritz crackers. And he chucklehead and took off in the other direction. And after I retrieved him she said I’ve never seen him flipped so quickly after food. My brother was on Ritalin his whole life. And it turned out he was just allergic to weird foods, you should take them to nutritionist. So I did. And it was life altering. You know, my kid went from not being able to look at my nose to being able to focus being calm, and it was so mind blowing to me that I went back and got a degree in nutrition and was trying to help other mothers. And then my bottom fell out my then husband attempted suicide and we needed to move him into a residential treatment facility and the moment that I I knew he was safe and it wasn’t his job to do my job to keep him alive It was like my adrenals could finally relax and so I really shut down it was slightly inconvenient because I was suddenly a single mom, the kids were five and seven, I had a full time job I was class parent and I could barely get out of bed. I would wake up with them, make them breakfast, pack their lunch, take them to school, come back home, crawl back into bed and set the alarm for pickup which was not sustainable and none of the nutritional remedies that I knew would support my adrenals really seem to be helping but luckily a good friend I had just helped her with a fundraiser and her thank you gift was a big box of essential oils so she came over and said these will help you you know you’ve been chronically stressed, which means chronically inflamed, and when your guts inflamed it’s really hard to be able to digest absorb and assimilate any kind of remedy through the digestive channel these work through the skin you know kind of like nicotine patches or hormone creams they when you smell them they work immediately and I thought why not you know I’ve got nothing to lose. So I had picked up this technique called muscle testing that it’s just an efficient way to ask questions of the body you know when you’re trying to help wiggly kids it was more efficient. So muscle tested boxes anything going to help my adrenals I got a good yes and I was like alright, that’s encouraging. And normally I’m able to narrow things down to one remedy but I kept getting the same five oils which confused me until it occurred to me Oh wait, they’re liquid I can combine them. So then I shifted gears and started asking me how many drops you know neutral oils grabbed a shot glass in my kitchen mixed my first blend knew that the adrenals were the most accessible on the low back. So put the blend on the low back and it was like a light switch was flipped and I was like oh, I could go reading I can go to the supermarket I could clean the house. I got more done in that day than I probably had in the previous month. And so once I kind of figured out oh this this works for me. I just started playing around you know I’d been practicing nutrition for a couple years at that point. I knew you know like if someone’s deficient in vitamin D that’s easy you supplement with vitamin D if someone is if their nervous system the autonomic nervous system has kind of which controls your automatic functions it has kind of two gears the I’m safe you know the body can heal or I’m in danger and I need to allocate resources towards survival and so many of us are stuck in that survival state which means that you know, there’s a lot of delayed maintenance going on so I started playing around with how do I shift people out of this sympathetic branch of the nervous system into the rest digest and heal parasympathetic branch and I basically just made things up that worked for me that my friends were like, Oh, we want to try it work for them, then they were think gosh, this is really interesting, you should do...

Do not miss these highlights:

[5:13] At first thinking it was cancer, Vanessa found out she was in perimenopause, which took her on a journey of education

[10:41] The symptoms from perimenopause and menopause can have significant impacts from an economic, career, and relationship viewpoint

[12:58] Women in perimenopause and menopause are the largest, fastest-growing segment of the workforce, and adapting the workplace for them

[16:05] We should give ourselves the grace to embrace the changes in our body when it comes to weight gain from menopause

[17:15] There is a disconnect from relationships occurring because of the hormonal changes occurring, from cortisol production, stress, lack of sleep, mood swings, depression, and anxiety

[18:42] There is an impact with perimenopause and menopause on the sex drive and the frustration it causes

[21:50] Some of the surprising facts that Vanessa has learned in her research

[25:23] A look at Menolobs, what it does, and what it has accomplished

[30:51] One type of treatment is not necessarily the best treatment for everyone

[38:57] The power of conversation when it comes to making a systemic change about menopause

Resources Mentioned

What if you could improve your health & increase your productivity? Find out how with the Vibrant Female Coaching Program at https://vibrantfemale.com/traning

About our Guest:

Vanessa Ford, cofounder of Menolabs, focuses on women’s issues during the perimenopausal/menopausal transition. Vanessa was prompted to action when, at 44, she began her own transition into menopause. Unsatisfied with the lack of support that women experience during this stage of life, and finding the stereotypes of women in mid-life exasperating and insulting, she created MenoLabs to address what she sees as a glaring need in every woman’s life.

Professionally, Vanessa has served as Chief Marketing Officer and VP of Customer Service and Public

Relations, among other titles. She also has a background of startup and nonprofit experience, working for underserved populations in the animal welfare field, as well as women’s issues. Vanessa has served on a variety of nonprofit, public relations, and marketing boards, and has served as the head of many civic engagement projects.

Vanessa’s personal experience with menopause and her driving passion for moving the conversations around menopause forward mean that Vanessa is a driving force in everything MenoLabs does, from product formulations, to app creation, to being the face of the brand in informative videos and across social media. 

“Because I’m going through this myself, right now, in the moment, I feel a real and pressing desire to find out all I can about menopause and what other women are going through, and I want to help them find the answers that they’re looking for. I know how frustrating it can be to try to go this alone, and I know we can do better. And that’s what MenoLabs is about – making life and the transition to menopause better and easier for every single woman.”

Website: https://menolabs.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MENOLABS/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyfdJiiBjo4rbgIulyGMbdg

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/menolabs

Vanessa’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-ford/

Vanessa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vanessa.menolabs

Transcription of Episode #137:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness .Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Hey, it’s Dr. Deb Welcome back to let’s talk wellness now. This is Episode 137. Take back your life from menopause. And my guest is Vanessa Ford. She is the co founder of mental labs, focusing on women’s issues during perimenopause and menopausal transition, Vanessa was prompted to take action when at 44 years old, she became on her own transition into menopause. And unsatisfied with the lack of support that women experienced during this stage of life. And finding the stereotypes of women in midlife, exasperating and insulting, she created mental labs to address what she sees as the glaring need in every woman’s life. This is a topic people you know, is near and dear to my heart. It has been my love, since I started practicing. So I’m excited to bring you Vanessa and talk to you today about her company and her journey. And we’ll be right back after this message with her.

Debra Muth 1:25Today’s episode is brought to you by vibrant female. Now we’re all trying to build a fulfilled life. One that’s exciting, fun, and leaves us fulfilled and energized. But we don’t all have the energy the drive or the bodies we want. So I’ve created the vibrant female coaching program. And you know, I have just recorded a training on how to supercharge your life with maximum brain function, optimal energy. And yes, I’m going to say it, mind blowing sex and reawaken the female goddess inside of you. Now, who wants this amazing free webinar, if you do, just hop over to vibrant female.com slash training, and it’ll be in the show notes here as well. And you can get access to this free program where you can learn all about the things that I did to regenerate my life, get the body that I want. And yes, have mind blowing sex as well, while running a business, taking care of clients and raising my family. So check us out. It’s the vibrant female health program. And it is that vibrant female calm. And for your free webinar training. It’s vibrant female.com slash training.

Debra Muth 2:51Hey, welcome back to let’s talk wellness. Now. I have Vanessa Ford with me and I am so stoked to have this conversation with her. As you guys know, I love to talk about women’s health and menopause is one of my favorite topics. And I get to talk to a lady who loves this topic herself. So Vanessa, welcome to the show.

Vanessa Ford 3:10Well, thanks for having me. Dr. Deb. I’m really excited to talk about menopause with someone who is equally as excited as I am about the topic. It’s not It’s not every woman who wants to, you know, jump in and talk about applause.

Debra Muth 3:22Isn’t that the truth, right? Most of the time, we’re trying to figure out how can we just forget that part of our lives is an existence at this point. So Vanessa, you’ve got an interesting story. Tell us how you got on this journey of menopause?

Vanessa Ford 3:42Well, you know, I did not so I had heard about menopause, right? Growing up, but I didn’t know a lot about it. I knew you were supposed to not have periods anymore and you might get some hot flashes and I think that’s not an uncommon concept about what menopause is right? Especially when you’re not in it. But when I was 4344 I had a three week period and it wasn’t just you know, I had some spotting for three weeks that kind of thing it was full on I’m having a period period about about two and a half weeks in I was I was freaking out I thought I had cancer because cancer runs in my family there is a serious risk of cancer for me genetically. So I was pretty flipped out and I called my doctor and a psychotic come in I got to have tests and she said Okay, come in we’ll do tests but it’s probably okay don’t panic right but we’ll do the test. Absolutely. So of course it took a you know a week to get in and by then I don’t have a period anymore and I’m and I’m totally fine. And I tell her I think I overreacted. And she said, No, no, let’s do the test. But you’re 44 and it’s probably just perimenopause. And I was like, What do you mean just perimenopause. First, I don’t know what perimenopause is. And there is nothing just about I am experiencing. And that got me. So she she sat me down to tell me what perimenopause was. She put me on the road to some research because I’m an academic, by heart. And she said, here, go do some research. here’s, here’s what you need to know. And I started researching and started realizing all of these things that I had just been chalking up to like PMS, like that menopausal rage that you can feel, right? The end, the brain fog, and the insomnia. Were all due to perimenopause and my decrease in hormones. And I realized that there was probably something we could do about it. I started putting a bunch of pills together, I was taking 2832 different pills in combination at one point. And I reached out to my friend, Danielle, and I said, There’s got to be a better way we should we should be able to put this in a pill. Danielle has a ton of business experience. She’s been doing fortune 500 companies and that sort of thing for her whole life. And I said, Do you think there’s a company here? Do you think we could find a solution. And we both agreed that there, there was a problem here that needed to be solved, I couldn’t find a solution. So we decided to come up with one ourselves, because neither one of us is a woman who is willing to you ...

Do not miss these highlights:

[04:40] Diet’s are never destined to last because we’re pleasure-seeking creatures

[05:50] Macro tracking, the approach to dieting as a skill

[08:33] The magic pill to losing weight is being in a caloric deficit

[11:17] A look at putting yourself into starvation mode and its effects

[14:33] Nutrition is 90% of this game

[15:25] Is water a contributing factor to losing weight?

[17:34] Rachel’s journey from being a Musician to being a fitness pro

[23:47] Learning to track macros is taking complete control of one of the unhealthiest relationships with food

[24:15] Get past that learning curve, be dedicated and it will literally transform your life

[28:25] The idea of neural connections in our brain

[32:45] Can you maintain a healthy lifestyle and weight while eating foods that “are not good for us”?

[36:00] The first steps to take when starting on a fitness journey

Resources Mentioned

Freebie:Lose Weight While Still Eating Donuts: How to Never Diet Again https://www.mindstrongfitnesscoaching.com/donuts

For the best in Gluten Free Flour and Gluten Support Supplements, visit https://gf-naturals.com/ 

About our Guest:

Rachel Freiman (Slotnick) is the CEO of MindStrong Fitness, a lover of lifting heavy things up and down, and a coach passionate about helping others unleash their strongest, most empowered selves through education and mindset training.

With more than fifteen years of classroom instruction and certifications in personal training and sports nutrition, Rachel developed MindStrong Fitness with an inside-out approach: focusing on both the mental and physical sides to build healthy, sustainable habits.

When she’s not in the gym, Rachel enjoys exploring the world, snuggling with her puppy Charlie, eating, and thinking about the next time she’ll be eating.

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getmindstrong/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GetMindStrong/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8LaZeW7rNwG5qBo7tKRdJw

Website: https://www.mindstrongfitnesscoaching.com/

Transcription of Episode #126:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16So how many of you want to learn how to lose weight while eating donuts? Well, that’s our conversation today that we are having with Rachael Freiman. And she is going to share with us how easy it is to actually lose weight without having to do these crazy diet plans, the shakes all of these different systems that we’ve been seeing out there, she’s going to tell us not only how to do it, but she’s going to give us the science behind it as well. And you guys are going to absolutely love this conversation with Rachel, she runs the mind strong fitness coaching program. And you can find her on Facebook, she’s got a whole group of ladies that have been doing this for years, and some that are brand new. And I know you guys are going to want to log on and follow her, I’m actually going to head over there and follow her as well. Because what she’s learning is so what she’s teaching us is so incredible that every one of us needs to know how to do this so that we can have that birthday cake or that wedding cake. Or maybe we just want to have some ice cream once in a while. And we don’t want to lose our figure and we don’t want to give up everything we’ve worked so hard to do. So, listen in on this conversation with Rachael Freiman, the Mind Strong fitness coach, she is going to teach us all about how to lose weight while still eating doughnuts.

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Debra Muth 3:00Hey, welcome back. This is Dr. Deb from let’s talk wellness now. And I have the pleasure of speaking with Rachel Freiman who’s going to talk to us about fat loss, not necessarily weight loss, but fat loss. And she’s got a way that we can eat donuts and still lose fat. Is that right, Rachel?

Rachel Freiman 3:18That is right. I know it sounds too good to be true. But yeah, 100% I always like to joke that, um, it’s not really a joke. But I always say that if someone held a gun to my head and said, Listen, you get to choose a life and fitness, or a life that includes doughnuts hands down door. But this is not a competition, my priorities are very straight on that.

Debra Muth 3:36You and me be both!

Rachel Freiman 3:39And the beautiful thing is you don’t have to choose because there there absolutely is a way to do both. And it’s not a quick fix fad diet. It’s a sustainable lifestyle. I’m excited to jump into that with you,

Debra Muth 3:50Oh, I’m so excited to hear this. Because so many times when we’re talking about diet, it’s restrictive. It’s give up this give up that you can’t cheat, you can’t do anything. And that’s just not realistic, you know, you’re gonna have that wonderful wedding. And those people have an amazing wedding cake that you want to just have a little bit of, and if that blows your whole diet, and you have to reset your metabolism for 90 days, because you have that one piece of something. Most of us can’t do that. We want that sustainable life.

Rachel Freiman 4:18Yeah. And that what you just said is hitting the nail on the head. You know, there, I there’s an extra I have a book. It’s called becoming mind strong on Amazon. And one of the exercises we do in the book is we actually make a chart with three columns. And we list every single diet you’ve ever tried in your life. So for some people that’s 50 for some people, that’s 550. Yeah. And then we list the logistics. And then we list at the end after we do some mindset work, why the diet was never destined to last. And what we find is exactly what you just said, as human beings. We’re designed. We’re pleasure seeking creatures. We’re designed to avoid pain and seek pleasure. And every single diet, whether it’s 50 or 550. They’re the same diet at their core, whether it’s low Whether it’s keto, whether it’s low fat, whether shape systems, they’re designed to put horse blinders on and say, I can’t, I can’t, I can’t, these are good foods, these are bad foods, these are allowed, these are not allowed. And that is completely pushing against human nature that we are not designed to live in a state of restriction like that. So when we put those horse blinders on, and we try to say I can’t, I can’t, I can’t, we’ve all been down this path, right? We’re on great havior for like five days a week, maybe three weeks. But then when we cave, we don’t just cave, we cave and we binge. And we say, well, I’ve already ruined it, I had one piece of cake, why not have three pieces of cake right. And I’ll start again, Monday, I’ll start again Monday. And there, there’s two pieces to this that are just the the key to the Holy Grail. And the first is getting out of this all in all out mindset. And the second is getting away from this restrictive nature. And that’s exactly what when I talk about nutrition being a learnable skill, and why we can eat doughnuts and lose weight. It’s because there’s no more of this good food, bad food, it’s the idea of not living off restriction and fitting in everything into what I call your your budget.

Debra Muth 6:07I love that. Because if you you know, it’s kind of like if you’ve got a bucket, and when the buckets full, you’re full, we get that. And however we want to fill that bucket with whatever is that what we’re talking about here, something similar to that.

Rachel Freiman 6:22But that’s a great analogy. The analogy I always used as a financial budget. So if I hand you 100 bucks and say, Here you go, this is your 100 bucks to spend, the only rule is it doesn’t roll over, you have to spend it all today. Well, now you have the freedom of choice, you could make little purchases throughout the day, you could go on a shopping spree in the morning and be stingy at night, you could hoard your money all day and go shopping. And it doesn’t matter to your $100. So when we approach nutrition as a skill, it’s called macro tracking. An...

In this episode, Dr. Deb breaks down something she’s been seeing in her clinic for over 20 years: women who escape high-control religious environments and, within months, develop autoimmune disease, hormonal collapse, and chronic fatigue. Their labs look “normal.” Their doctors hand them an antidepressant. And nobody asks why.

Dr. Deb does.

Drawing on the work of Dr. Daniel Amen, Dr. Datis Kharrazian, Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, and Dr. Uzzi Reiss, she walks through the clinical reality of what religious trauma does to your nervous system, your immune system, and your hormones, and exactly what it takes to heal at the root cause.

This isn’t therapy talk. This is biology.

In this episode:

• Why purity culture dysregulates your HPA axis and ovarian function
• The autoimmune cascade that follows prolonged psychological trauma
• What conventional medicine gets wrong — and what functional medicine does instead
• The clinical protocols Dr. Deb actually uses with these patients

If your body has been in revolt since leaving a controlling environment, this episode was made for you.

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Can you use ozone to energize your body? Yes, drinking ozonated water helps to improve the oxygen in your cells which in turn provides you more energy.

Are you tired of buying expensive cleaning products that are creating toxins in your home this episode is for you! Learn how to clean with ozone, and ingest it daily to assist your body in healing and ridding the body of toxins and pathogens. 

Do not miss these highlights:

06:47 The interesting facts about Ozone.

08:58 The dangers of Ozone if it’s not used in a safe manner – It damages the lungs.

13:33 Ozone protects the cells with that enzyme coding and it’ll go after the cells that don’t have the enzyme coding.

17:16 Drinking Ozonated water made Eileen’s Candida populations go down and it gave her energy.

19:25 Once you make the ozone water, it only lasts 20 to 30 minutes, so you can’t buy it commercially made in a bottle. You have to make it yourself and drink it. 

20:17 The medical kind of Ozone generators.

21:37 It only takes .1 part per million of dissolved ozone to kill EColi in 15 seconds – Cleaning your food with Ozonated water will completely clear that pathogen from the food.

24:45 Home friendly Ozone systems – machines & devices Eileen developed and invented.

31:30 Start slow in ingesting Ozonated water.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Eileen Durfee is a health pioneer, business woman and innovator who has reinvented a way to distribute natural healing products to protect others from toxicity. 

Eileen is a former nuclear power plant engineer who became sick due to chemical exposure. She suffered from chronic pain, allergies, Hashimoto’s, hypothyroidism, and lack of energy. These symptoms were the result of her body not eliminating the toxins to which she was regularly exposed. She tried a variety of medications, diets, therapies, and more, to help recover her health. On a quest to heal her body, she engineered solutions with her vast knowledge and experience to help others. Her journey to overcome her own health issues led her to become an inventor and businesswoman.

www.CreatrixSolutions.comIG: www.instagram.com/creatrixsolutions

These are just a few of the topics Dr. Deb and Missy discuss in today’s episode. 

Do not miss these highlights:

07:15 Missy’s story of having  Hashimoto’s disease at the age of 8 to being Anorexic.

13:42 How the gut impacts everything in our body.

14:08 Nutrition is only as valuable as what you absorb – If you’ve got inflammation in your gut and you’re not digesting appropriately, it doesn’t really matter, you’re not going to get the benefit.

18:07 Our subconscious is programmed before you were eight years old – Anything that’s handed to us, we have no filter to decide if it’s the truth or not.

20:27 The scale is not a reflector of anything except how gravity is pushing on you right now.

22:48 The things you should consider when you’re seeing your doctor.

25:14 How to get off the medications.

27:09 Mold is not a bad thing, but when it gets in our bodies, it’s a big issue – Mold Toxicity & ADHD

36:10 Every single cell in the body has a thyroid receptor on it. 

39:58 How the other doctors perceive patients with high TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone).

43:17 The thyroid is very important, you can die from not having an appropriate functioning thyroid.

44:58 Things you can do if you’re feeling overwhelmed and want to find a practitioner to work with.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Missy is a lover of puns, 5-year-old-knock-knock jokes, dogs, kindness, and chocolate. She was diagnosed with Hashimoto’s disease at 8 years old after gaining 50 pounds in a matter of months. For years, she took thyroid meds yet struggled with anxiety, hair loss, depression, gut issues, and her weight ballooned to over 275 pounds. The doctors insisted her labs were “normal” so she began seeking out her own solutions. She got a master’s degree in nutrition and even bought a health food store in an attempt to solve her nagging thyroid symptoms. Through trial and error, she discovered a few simple tests to help uncover the root cause of her problems and helped her end the exhausting Hashimoto’s battle after 28 years. She now helps women everywhere do the same! 

missy@missybeaverscoaching.com 

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Do not miss these highlights:

04:42 How does someone identify that they may have a food addiction or any addictive type behavior

05:48 Addiction may bring comfort, but it doesn’t bring the pleasure

09:01 The purpose of life is to experience the greatest pleasure possible

14:19 Because of lack of clarity or lack of trust in life people went into addiction

15:44 Despite graduating from Harvard, why Bracha is writing children’s books

18:21 When children experience abuse, it puts coverings over their spirit. It’s important for our bodies to be healthy in order for our souls to shine as well

21:50 Why do people overeat

22:27 The way to overcome addiction is to bring in more pleasure into your life, flood your life with pleasure

23:00 The five rungs on the “Pleasure Ladder”

29:32 There’s only one price to pay to climb the pleasure ladder, it is gratitude

29:53 Tips and tricks on how to overcome food addiction

35:13 To experience the greatest pleasure possible is to experience gratitude

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Bracha Goetz is a Harvard-educated wellness expert and the author of 40 children’s books plus a candid memoir for adults about overcoming food addictions joyfully. Her books can be found at www.goetzbookshop.com.

https://www.goetzbookshop.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brachagoetz

https://www.facebook.com/BrachaGoetzBooks

https://www.instagram.com/brachagoetzbooks

https://twitter.com/BrachaGoetz

Do not miss these highlights:

05:48 Menopause is not a disease, this is a natural stage of women’s lives.

06:17 What’s the positive side of menopause

08:32 During menopause, it’s very important to focus on lifestyle first, focus on diet, exercise, stress reduction and taking herbal supplements.

13:21 Bonafide Company’s mission and products.

19:46 Some women are having sexual function issues due to medical problems. 

20:28 Using natural supplements wisely.

23:58 Bonafide does make a probiotic that has been very vigilantly tested. 

25:45 List of things that may disrupt the normal pH of the vagina.

27:47 If you’re leading up to menopause, and still menstruating, you can still get pregnant. 

29:24 Tips and tricks that will help women control their weight during perimenopause and menopause.

35:43 Just taking thyroid medication doesn’t fix the weight issue. 

37:19 Take command of your health at this time, there is no better time to really manage your menopause than before it happens.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Alyssa Dweck is an OB/GYN for over 25 years with a special focus on female vaginal, sexual and menopausal health who is willing to help answer any questions women may be too afraid to ask but want to know about the stage of life – not disease – menopause. 

She has been voted “Top Doctor” in New York Magazine and Westchester Magazine and she’s also appeared on The Today Show and Good Day LA. Dr. Dweck is the co-author of three books including The Complete A to Z for Your V, The Sexual Spark and V is for Vagina. 

In addition, Dr. Dweck is the Chief Medical Officer of Bonafide, a company that provides naturally powerful solutions for the symptoms that occur throughout women’s lives with an effective, safe alternative to hormone replacement therapy. When she’s not helping women improve their health, Dr. Dweck enjoys time with her husband, two sons, and “girly” English Bulldog. She is an avid runner and sports car enthusiast. 

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01:00 Dr. Melissa McCreary discusses breaking the cycle of being overwhelmed, overloaded and overeating without feeling deprived. Dr. McCreary talks about the power of the mind and how our negative messages affect our food choices.

09:07 Identifying and addressing hidden hungers can help overcome overeating caused by stress, exhaustion, and difficult emotions.

15:53 The importance of addressing one’s mindset and beliefs when it comes to changing eating habits, rather than relying on self-control and deprivation.

20:53 Women may lose hope and confidence due to societal pressure. The belief that the problem is their fault and can only be fixed with self-control and willpower is a dead end that discourages curiosity.

22:57Take your power back by understanding the reason you eat and practicing mindfulness to stay in touch with your body and emotions.

30:12 Making changes with food and weight loss doesn’t have to be hard and miserable. It can be easy with the right mindset.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

She has helped thousands of women break cycles with overwhelm, overload, and overeating without feeling deprived, and without depending on ridiculous amounts of willpower. Over 32,000 women have taken her free Hidden Hungers quiz online. Participants in Dr. McCreery’s signature program lose their cravings and their overeating habits. Her approach to helping working mothers, busy professionals, and stressed-out business owners emphasizes ditching diet mentality and using the power of psychology. Her perspective has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Weight Watchers Magazine, Good Housekeeping, Working Mother, Fitness, Women’s Health, CNN Health, Real Simple, and Self.

Website: http://toomuchonherplate.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissamccreery/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MelissaMcCreery

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If we know your genetic make-up called epigenetics exercise, diet, and recovery can all be individualized specifically to you!

Recovering from pregnancy? No worries this episode has you covered as well.

Do not miss these highlights:

05:33 How will you know if you are getting enough or too much exercise

07:31 How to incorporate individualized results using your genetics to decide the best to train for you

08:31 How can people implement an exercise protocol during a period of inflammation

11:53 We don’t always know what symptoms we’re dealing with until the symptoms are brought in front of us

13:26 What does Dr. Jenny means when she says “We shouldn’t do a 15k Triathlon”

16:20 Over-exercising and overactivity are fueling inflammatory response

17:12 Are there some exercises that are better for people than others?

18:17 A better regimen for midlife women to be looking at than somebody who’s in their 30s

20:06 Some tips to get past that beginning part of exercise

23:15 Active recovery is an important part of our exercise regimen

24:47 Recovery tips after pregnancy

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Quartano is a dual board-certified physical therapist in pediatrics and neurology with a passion for seeing children and families grow successfully and thrive together. She has vast experience working all the way from neonatal intensive care to the functional fitness environment and everything in between. After seeing the failures of the traditional medical model, she began her own practice in 2014, allowing a focus on the child and family together to maximize relationships and life quality. As a mother herself, she understands the challenges parenting can bring, and she seeks to bring the expertise in how we think, move, and act to influence how families learn, grow, and thrive. 

Through this experience and her own health journey, Dr. Quartano has found a passion for functional medicine and has undergone training with an Institute of Functional Medicine affiliated program to be able to offer this unique approach to health to others. She understands the stress and roles that personal and professional life take on health and seeks to help other women find their best self to be the best mom, wife, professional or athlete they desire to be.

Social Media & Website:

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Transcription of Episode #153:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms. Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness. Now it is a bitterly cold but beautiful sunny day here in Wisconsin at the end of January, and we’re on episode 153. And our topic today is why you might be over exercising your way into poor health. I’m really excited to talk to Jennifer today about this because it’s a topic we so ignore. We think that the more exercise we do, the better off we’re going to feel, the less we eat, the better we’re going to feel. And a lot of times this can be the opposite of what we think. So I’m so glad that we’re going to be having this conversation today.

Debra Muth 0:56So Dr. Jennifer Quartano is a dual board certified physical therapist in pediatrics and neurology with a passion for seeing children and families grow successfully and thrive together. She has vast experience working all the way from neonatal intensive care to functional fitness, environment and everything in between. After seeing failures of traditional medical model, she began her own practice in 2014, allowing a focus on the child and family together to maximize relationships, and life quality. As a mother herself she understands the challenges parenting can bring. She seeks to bring the expertise in how we think, move, act, and how that influences our families in how they learn, grow and thrive. Through her own experience. In her health journey, Dr. Quartano has found a passion for Functional Medicine and has undergone training in the Institute of functional medicine, to be able to offer this unique approach to health to others. She understands the stress and roles that personal and professional life take on health and seeks to help other women find their best self to be the best mom, wife, professional or athlete that they desire. Oh, this is going to be such a great conversation. I can’t wait to talk to Dr. Quartano. today. So without further ado, I’m going to move this show along and we are going to bring you Dr. Jennifer.

Debra Muth 2:31Have you seen 20 Plus medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health. Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor at Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme COVID, long hollers autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at Serenityhealthcarecenter.com.

Debra Muth 3:49We are back to the show with Dr. Quartano. And we’re going to talk about over exercising. Is it good? Is it bad? What is the right amount for exercise that we’re going to have? Dr. Jenny, welcome to the show.

Dr. Jennifer Quartano 4:03Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

Debra Muth 4:06So tell us your story. How did you get started in this idea of physical wellness and looking at exercise as being too much or too little?

Dr. Jennifer Quartano 4:17Yeah, so that’s a great question. I feel like it’s a combination of education and my own personal experience that has kind of led me to where I am. So my background is as a physical therapist, I graduated from Mayo, medical school and pt. And it really started off thinking I want to work in this area of sports and wellness and then found passion in helping people be well and fit in other areas. So I’m board certified in both neuro and pediatrics. And I love that population because I feel like there’s so much more that I can lend them right. My athletes already know how to work out they know how to do things, but coming full circle in my own health. I really found that I needed to hone my whole wellness and exercise being part of that to manage my own health. globally. So I had some health problems a few years ago, led me down the road of just investigating what does all of that look like together. And then I dove into the area of functional medicine. So now I love to be able to integrate that component, and my background as a PT to help people optimize their health, with exercise being a big part of that.

Debra Muth 5:19That’s fantastic. I love that story. And I’m so glad that you joined the functional medicine world because it’s so important to have people both who can treat kids and adults in the functional medicine world. So welcome to that functional medicine world. So tell us how does somebody know they have a problem with exercise, I’m assuming exercise can be an addiction, just like anything else. I am guilty of having that back in the day myself. I used to exercise about four hours a day, six days a week. And I loved it. It was great. But how do you know when that’s too much?

Dr. Jennifer Quartano 5:53Yeah, so I think too much is so individualized, right? If you’re in optimal health, you might be able to do that, at least for a period of time, and be okay. Oftentimes, what I find is people coming to me are trying to exercise away pounds, for example. And that’s just not ideal when your body’s already under stress, right. So we’ve got all these inflammatory issues going on, and they’re exercising in a way to manage their weight. And oftentimes, you know, exercise might come secondary, we still need to move to detox our body, but it’s thinking about it differently. In the same way, I think, you know, I see kids, and this is probably some of my perspective came from this and that I have kids with neurologic disabilities, for example, and just walking is taxing on their body and is too much for them. So exercise, I think is so individualized to the person and what is the goal of exercise? Is it to get healthier? Is it to reduce stress is it to help your body heal, and from there, we can then personalize what’s going to be the right plan for you. That’s awesome.

Debra Muth 6:55And I love the fact that it’s a...

Karen Winters and Dr. Deb discuss creating a sleep schedule for your newborn, infant, toddler, and up. Ever wonder what the best bedtime should be for your child? Karen shares the bedtime for different ages and what you can do to implement that sleep schedule.

Struggling with a child who just won’t go to sleep? it is common to struggle with getting children to wind down and go to bed. But setting a routine, like bath time, storybook reading and connected play can help with this routine.

PUT DOWN THE COMPUTER one of the biggest problems for kids and adults is screen time. Limit your nightly screen time or use blue light filters to protect your sleep. 

Do not miss these highlights:

10:18 Teaching the skill of independent sleep is similar to teaching a child how to ride a bike. 

11:04 The age of a child that you have to start teaching about sleeping habits.

13:20 Things that parents should be aware of that could impact the sleep of their children.

16:23  Determining the good tricks or tips that a family is going to use to help their baby change their sleep pattern.

18:08 The length of time a child should sleep.

21:03 Things that we do as parents that can reflect negatively on our children’s sleep.

26:34 The reason why you have to push screen time a little bit out farther from bedtime.

30:15 Why you should set a bedtime.

34:38 You do have to wake a sleeping baby in certain situations. 

37:20 At a certain age, even as young as two, you should have that conversation about the importance of sleep.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Karen is a mother, an in-home daycare provider, a sleep consultant, and a business owner. Along with being a Certified Pediatric Sleep Consultant she also has her degree in Early Childhood Education and has been working with children in various settings for over 20 years. 

Karen went through sleep challenges with her own daughter. She remembers the frequent overnight wakes, the feeding to sleep, the constant rocking and bouncing. However, after lots of research and then becoming certified through the Center for Pediatric Sleep Management her passion quickly turned into helping families avoid the sleepless nights, and exhaustion she went through. 

Using her expertise, Karen provides families with advice, support, and behavior modification techniques to help teach their child the skill of independent sleep. She works together with families to choose a method that best fits their unique circumstances and desires so that their family as a whole can become more well-rested.

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Do not miss these highlights:

09:04 There’s never a root cause in a system. There are all of these things that contribute to it

11:06 Medicine is transitioning so rapidly in the alternative world

11:50 What is “Epigenetics”?

18:04 One of the aspects of medicine that is causing a failure is the “overvaluing of expertise”

20:43 What is Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms and its function

24:25 Why is it there are people with a homozygous MTHFR who have a healthy child without a birth defect if it’s a true mutation?

26:35 Anything that you find in 23&Me has some benefits and some risks…It’s just different based on the environment you’re functioning in

27:29 How can people use this genetic technology to increase their quality of life and their longevity

28:55 The human system is a complex adaptive system

32:19 Some of the latest findings in the RNA and age reversal

Resources MentionedWhether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com

About our Guest:

Dr. Daniel L. Stickler is the Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer at Apeiron ZOH Inc. He is a leader in complexity & performance medicine and has special focus on age rejuvenation strategies. A physician to high-performing executives, entrepreneurs and elite performers, a speaker, blogger and podcaster on all topics performance. Dr. Stickler is clinical faculty for the Age Management Medical Group. He is a Google consultant for wearable technology, epigenetics, and AI in healthcare, and a guest lecturer at Stanford University on Epigenetics in Clinical Practice. In addition, he sits on multiple advisor boards in the longevity and Human performance realm; including medical advisory board of TruDiagnostics and Medical director at the Neurohacker Collective.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/drstickler/

https://apeironzoh.com/

https://twitter.com/ApeironMe

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.l.stickler

Transcription of Episode #154:

Debra Muth 0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:15Welcome back to this cold day here in Wisconsin. But I have a hot guest for you today. Dr. Daniel Stickler is the co-founder and Chief Medical Officer at Aperion. He is a leader in complexity and performance medicine and has a special focus on age rejuvenation strategies. A physician to high performing executives, entrepreneurs and elite performers, a speaker blogger and podcaster himself on all topics performance. Dr. Stickler is clinical faculty for the age management Medical Group. He is a Google consultant for wearable technologies and epigenetics and AI healthcare maybe we can get some tips on what’s coming down the pike there from from him and a guest lecture at Stanford University on epigenetics and clinical practice. I am super excited to talk to him today about biohacking for aging, looking at the longevity and human performance, and truly getting into some of this deep hacking information that we can glean from epigenetics. So for those of you who aren’t yet familiar with what epi genetics is, basically what we’re looking at is your genetics. We’re seeing what you were born with, and can we create a path around it to help prevent or reduce the risk of disease. That is what we call biohacking. It helps us age more gracefully, stop age related diseases or slow them down and help you stay younger, healthier, longer and in the game. And all of you know like that is what I’m all about is getting you to stay younger, healthier and happy. Stay in the game as long as you can and just really enjoy your life.

Debra Muth 2:08Have you seen 20+ medical doctors only to be told your symptoms are in your head? Or you need an antidepressant? We understand your frustrations? Are you tired of feeling sick and tired? Tired of not getting the answers you need to regain your health? Tired of not feeling listened to by your doctor? At Serenity Health Care Center, we understand and we will help you find the cause of your symptoms. Together we will create a path to health. We specialize in combining the best of conventional and natural medicine to get you back to doing what you love. We have worked with the most complex chronic diseases such as chronic Lyme, COVID long hollers, autoimmune disease, mold toxicity, and hormonal imbalances. But if you’re not sick, that’s fantastic. We will work with you to maintain your health so that you can prevent illness. Give our office a call to see how we can help you regain your health and vitality at 262-522-8640. Or check us out at our website at serenityhealthcarecenter.com

Debra Muth 3:27Welcome back. I have with me my guest today Dr. Stickler, and we are going to talk all about biohacking and aging. Welcome to the show.

Dr. Daniel Stickler 3:36Happy to be here,Debra.

Debra Muth 3:37Hi. So tell us a little bit about how you became immersed in the world of genetics and epigenetics and walked away from your traditional vascular surgeon roots.

Dr. Daniel Stickler 3:49Yeah, I mean, the the short story here is that I was somewhat disenchanted with medicine from from the day I got into medical school in the fact that I had a different perception of what it was. I was under the impression it was like make life better for people and and it does for some but it’s predominantly focused on disease model. So you know, when you’re healthy, there’s not really much of a role of medicine in in that category. So, you know, I went through the process surgery was my logical choice there because I liked working with my hands and and it was something where somebody came in, they have a diminished quality of life you intervene and usually at least get him back to baseline whereas rest of medicine was this stepwise postponement of death. And then, you know, over time and learning on my own outside of the medical school classrooms, I started learning more about different options that were available out there and I came across a company in Las Vegas called Cenegenics back in 2005, and I was really fascinated because they were actually working with healthy people with diets exercise and hormone replacement. So I was like all in on that. And I started doing that as a hobby, and realized that there was something that I really enjoyed doing. And so I opened a clinic in 2005. And and then in 2007, my clients sir, bring me genetics, and he was the new 23 and Me and it was, it blew my mind because I never learned genetics in this way. I didn’t even know what a single nucleotide polymorphism was, just wasn’t something we were taught in medical school in the early 90s. So I had to do a deep dive into that, because it was just so fascinating to me. And I did not like genetics in medical school. So it surprised me how much I enjoyed that and ended up developing genetic templates, doing all this research and finding all ways I could help clients by using genetic polymorphisms. And a couple years later, I was presenting on my, my experience at A4M in Las Vegas, and yeah, I had probably 40 People come up to me after the talk. And they said, you know, how do I learn this, I’d like to learn this. And so that kind of prompted us to start a training program. Because I realized there wasn’t anything out there. And that started our academy. In 2012, I got into epigenetics, because this was just fascinating, even more. So I mean, DNA is the most I mean, it’s most amazing molecule i but I’m in awe of what DNA is and how it works and the information it carries. And epigenetics was just another another aspect of that, that just was blowing my mind. And I understood then that, you know, all this stuff that we can do in life, every, you know, everything we put into our bodies, and every environment we interact with changes how our genes express and I was like, Okay, this is really cool stuff and when I dove into it, a lot of the stuff I was reading was more in the in a little bit of a woo type. kinetics, the concept was right, but the there wasn’t science behind it. And gradually, the science started coming in behind it. And, you know, even up until like 2019, people were asking me if epigenetics was a real thing. Yeah, there’s like 1000s of peer reviewed articles. You know, I was teaching a, I was a guest speaker at an epigenetics core course at Stanford for about six years, during that time, where I was teaching the clinical use of it to people attending this epigenetics course, and just blew my mind. And, you know, that led me down the road to understanding how the medical paradigm was so broken, because it was, it was focused on a mechanistic or materialistic paradigm. And the human system is a complex system. And you have to take a systems approach to analyze it. And this is why we’re so far off base right now, with medicine. I mean, we’ve been barely hanging on but the progress and the progress that we should have had is about 10%, of where it should it would be if we taken the systems based approach rather than this, this really reductionistic type of approach ...

Do not miss these highlights:

02:02 The amazing Morpheus V device.

02:45 Why is it important to have a strong pelvic floor? 

03:51 We can actually do non-invasive treatments for people who do not want or are not candidates to undergo surgical intervention.

06:02 The things that happen post-surgically in many women.

07:32  Different medications we can give vaginally to help rejuvenate tissues and nerves.

08:54 V tone and Morpheus V can help strengthen the pelvic floor, help reproduce new collagen, and new cell turnover in the vaginal tissue. 

09:47 The loss of hormones makes a significant change to the pelvic floor, to the vaginal tissue, to our sexual stimulation, and to how we look We feel from our head all the way to our toe.

12:10 We could have the best sex lives after 50 if we have the right tools.

13:16 We have seen a lot of erectile dysfunction post-COVID.

17:43 Knowing which muscles to engage in and how long is huge when doing a Kegel exercise.

18:00 The V Tone program – teaches your body how to do Kegel 

19:19 If we can rejuvenate that pelvic floor, it can assist with constipation, it can assist with the pain in intercourse, it can assist the vaginal dryness, and it also assists in urinary incontinence. 

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

Transcription of Episode 184:

0:02Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. Hi, welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now. I’m your host, Dr. Deb. Today I want to talk to you about vaginal rejuvenation. So many of you have heard my story about my own pelvic floor issues, my own collagen issues. I’ve had pelvic reconstructive surgery, had a uterine prolapse had undergone a hysterectomy. And then a couple of years ago, I underwent pelvic floor reconstruction surgery because I was having some issues after you know, God, almost 20 years, have a hysterectomy and had no problems for a while and then started having some problems with urinary incontinence and pain with intercourse, pelvic floor issues. I’ve had many guests on the show talking about pelvic floor and urinary incontinence and vaginal rejuvenation. And for those of you who’ve been following me a long time, you know my love for hormones, and I think it’s amazing. And I came across a device called the Morpheus V. And it was totally by accident, we had a rep come in and share this technology with us. And I was blown away by the technology. And I have to say a little saddened by the fact that this wasn’t available. Before I underwent my pelvic reconstruction surgery for urinary incontinence Had this been available? I really believe that I would not have had to undergo amajor surgery to fix the issues that I was having from my hysterectomy. This device Morpheus V is so amazing. It is a combination of radiofrequency and micro-needlingmicro-needling now before you get nervous, the micro-needling part is a little scary, yes.

2:17But it’s really not that painful, we can make these procedures very comfortable for people. And for those of you who’ve suffered from urinary incontinence for years, you may have known about the Mona Lisa, cert,ainly we talk a lot about doing Kegel exercises, pelvic floor physical therapy, re connecting that muscle tissue and really being able to have a strong pelvic floor. So why is it important to have a strong pelvic floor? Well, most of us, we think about urinary incontinence and leakage. And that is very true. Without a strong pelvic floor, we are going to suffer from urinary incontinence, maybe fecal incontinence. And then eventually what ends up happening is we start having sexual dysfunction or we shy away from intercourse. Because it may be painful. You may feel like you’re gonna leak, you may feel like you’re gonna pass gas or have a bowel movement during intercourse. All of these things are problems that women suffer in complete silence. And myself my friend Sherrie Palm who runs a pops, which is the pelvic floor organization, that’s a non for profit. She has spent the last 16-plus years educating women on pelvic floor issues and all of the various devices and treatments that are available and really has come to an exciting time for women. Because what once used to just be a surgical option or a pessary or suffer and live with the incontinence and the pelvic floor issues, this arena has significantly changed with the development of some of these devices like Mona Lisa and Morpheus V. We can actually do non invasive treatments for people who do not want or are not candidates to undergo surgical intervention. Or they tried Botox injections into the vaginal tissue. They’ve tried estrogen, they’ve tried testosterone. They’ve tried all of the things that we give women to help with urinary incontinence and pelvic floor. But it’s still not helping. It’s still not enough. And when I came across this device, I was so excited about it. Because I thought finally for once we have a device that can really address the woman’s problem. In a very short period of time. We’re talking literally three treatments and after the first treatment, you’re going to notice a significant difference in incontinence. And I thought we finally have something that women can use that is effective. This treatment helps in 90 to 95% of the cases. Now, if someone has a severe pelvic prolapse, you know, grade three or something more difficult going on, it’s certainly not going to help in those cases. But in those mild to moderate urinary incontinence, urge incontinence pain with intercourse, like in planets, lichen sclerosis cases where there scar tissue and there’s pain, this device can significantly help make your life so much better. And I had to share this on the show today, because I am such an advocate for women’s health, this has been my passion my whole life. And I really feel like as women, there’s not a lot of research that goes into the issues that we deal with. And finally, we have something. So you know, a lot of times when people undergo surgical interventions, or you have birth a child and have had birthing trauma, like a rip or a tear, or they’ve had to do an episiotomy, many women end up with scar tissue in that area, which then leads to nerve damage in that area. And if you’ve got undergone pelvic floor surgery, they’ve cut a lot of the nerves internally, and women will tell you that this type of surgical repair, although it’s been helpful, has also created some other issues. We’ve create issues where intercourse is difficult either because of an over zealous physician that has cut away too much tissue and made the vaginal tissue too tight.

6:50And yes, that is the thing as much as the guys will say, go ahead. It is a problem when they’ve over-rectified the situation to the point where you can barely get one finger in the vagina. That is a problem. Now the wonderful thing about the world of vaginas is bad, they stretch and it can get better. But it does take some time it does take some work, it takes some diligence there. The other thing that happens post surgically is many women no longer feel or have the same sensation that they have prior to surgery. They have much more difficulty reaching orgasm, especially vaginal orgasms, it’s much more difficult to stimulate the g spot. And in part, that’s because all those nerves have been caught. Now there are things that we can do. There’s different medications we can give into vaginally that help rejuvenate that tissue and those nerves, but nerve tissue takes a very long time to rejuvenate. We’re talking about one millimeter a month. So we have 1000s of nerves in the vaginal tissue. And so it takes time to rejuvenate that. But with the Morpheus V, it’s so much different. And it’s so much better because you can start getting that collagen and that elasticity there, you can start getting that nerve connection back again. And so it just has given us such an opportunity to help women in a arena that we don’t talk about. You know, many women do not want to talk about their urinary incontinence, they don’t want to talk about their painful intercourse. They don’t want to talk about not having an orgasm. But it creates a lot of friction and a lot of tension in the relationship because the partner always feels like it’s them, they’re doing something wrong, they’re not pleasing you, you don’t love them anymore. When that couldn’t be further from the truth. For the majority of women, it has nothing to do with that. It simply has to do with the fact that we don’t have the sensation that we had before. And with Former V, V Tone, Morpheus V, all of these things that we can do to help strengthen the pelvic floor to help reproduce new collagen, new cell turnover in the vaginal tissue.

9:04These kinds of things can help so much with your sex life, with your incontinence with how you feel as a woman, the sexuality, the sensuality, of being able to dress nice and not have to worry about leaking on yourself or looking nice. All of these things are so important to us. And let’s face it, the world of aging is spreading. The female populatio...

How does Deuterium affect our cellular/mitochondrial energy. How to we get rid of deuterium in the body and speed up our mitochondrial function? Victor Sagalovsky of Litewater speaks about the real causes of aging, what really slows down our mitochondria & how to deplete deuterium.

Do not miss these highlights:

05:18 The research about why these people in a part of Siberia had extreme longevity.

08:07 What is Deuterium?

12:48 When you put in anything that has less deuterium in it, through this process known as hydrogen exchange, you get more energy and you feel lighter on your feet. 

14:13 Deuterium is nature’s most natural contaminant. 

17:36 How you could reduce the deuterium level in your body.

21:36 We can throw out this concept of aging because we have certain interventions.

24:11 Are there other symptoms that people would notice that they had a deuterium overload in their body?

25:52 To improve the self-healing ability of the body, the term depletion works, because it adds the energy that your body needs to work.

28:00 Saliva was a great test if you wanted to test your metabolic waters. It’s an excellent indicator of your extracellular water.

32:03 How much Super Deuterium-Depleted Light Water should be replaced in your water consumption.

36:08 We’re not hydrated because we drink a lot of water. We’re hydrated when we drink the right water, and when we eat the right foods. 

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Victor Sagalovsky is the cofounder of Litewater Scientific, the first and only super deuterium-depleted light water, where he has dedicated himself to the research, development, and production of this rare water. Victor has researched and studied the benefits of deuterium-depleted water through his theory entitled Endogenous Radiation Damage Theory of Aging. It proposes that our biggest obstacle to longevity is the excess deuterium and other damaging isotopes on the planet and proper mitigation will radically extend our lifespans.

Victor started his career as an innovator in plant-based culinary art, having co- founded the first organic gourmet raw food restaurant in North America called RAW. He attended Loyola University and the University of Hawaii where he pursued multidisciplinary education. He has completed apprenticeships and graduate coursework in chemistry, optical microscopy, and molecular biology. 

He is the author of many articles and guides in the field of wellness, biohacking, emerging medicine, technology, mysticism, and esoteric wisdom. Outside of the water category, Victor is the author of Gold: Catalyst of Radiant Health, a book about the history and science of the medicinal benefits of gold, and is adept in gold alchemy and the making of ORME’s.

www.drinklitewater.com

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/viclove/

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Do not miss these highlights:

01:24 You’re not supposed to have plaque on your brain, regardless of how old you are.

03:36 If we get the diagnosis right, if we find the cause for the white matter on the brain, it can be reversed and it can go away completely. 

07:13 Demyelinating Disease is curable and treatable. 

08:48 First thing that causes Demyelinating Disease – Bacterial infection, bugs that enter the brain.

09:39 The blood-brain barrier is not sacred, many things can cross the blood-brain barrier and cause problems. 

10:47 Second thing that causes Demyelinating Disease – Toxins, chemicals, and heavy metals. 

12:11 Third cause – Mycotoxins that are released from mold spores. Unfortunately, mold grows everywhere in our environment. 

16:40 Symptoms that we see from a mold illness. 

17:33 Fourth thing that causes white matter brain disease – Traumatic and Non-traumatic Brain Injury.

22:57 We’re going to see Demyelinating Disease secondary to COVID. 

24:35 There is treatment, it is not a treatment that’s going to suppress your immune system, nor a steroid that’s just going to decrease your symptoms so you don’t feel it. It is a protocol that is going to heal your body and repair the damage.

25:15 The tests to identify what’s going on in your body.  

29:55 The treatment.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

Do not miss these highlights:

00:30 We have the power to make a difference in this world. 

01:44  The story of the friendship of two patients and the window.

05:05 Life is a battle game. We fight for it every day. Disease turns a person’s life upside down.

05:30 Life is a gift of many blessings. We have the opportunity to touch people’s lives.

06:50 Your health is at the center of your life. 

08:44 The client that Dr. Deb will never forget in her life. 

12:00 Without good health, you have nothing. Let’s all embrace that healthy living.

15:00 Invest in yourself – be an amazing person on the inside.

17:36 Let’s start 2023 with embracing the good in people and the good in yourself.

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

Do not miss these highlights:

04:24 Getting to know Dr. Soumyadi – how he got started in the world of sexual function.

06:17 How Bio-Medical Engineering works, and how it connects in the healthcare world.

08:55 The science and medical evidence of using devices like vibrators in helping with pain or stretching the vaginal tissue.10:37 The importance of blood flow in the pelvic region and for prostate health.

13:08 Are Doctors recommending vibrators for sexual health issues?

15:34 How does a device become FDA-approved, and why would you want to look for a device that’s FDA-approved.

20:16 One of the biggest challenges in medical devices.

23:04 Why there are so few companies in sexual health that make hardware or devices.

24:36 MysteryVibe devices that are available and how they can help with the pelvic floor, vulvar pain and painful sex.

27:57  Add life to years, not just years to life. So make your years count, make it lively, and make it full of love.

29:56 Dr. Soumyadip’s mission is to write a lot of educational content. 

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care  by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

Dr. Soum Rakshit is the Co-Founder & CEO of award-winning sexual health company, MysteryVibe. Their mission is to make sexual health accessible to all – across all ages, genders & orientations. In his role as CEO of MysteryVibe, he focuses on pushing the boundaries on R&D, customer experience and supporting their long-term goal of making sexual health an integral part of our overall health. Soumyadip passionately believes that by empowering people with actionable knowledge & purposeful innovation is the way to make this happen. Soumyadip built and sold his first startup in defense electronics by age 26, and has won 20+ International design awards for his product designs. His reach is over 20K, and he would be happy to let his network know to listen in!

https://mysteryvibe.com/

Did you know macular eye damage can occur from too much blue light?

But what about red light? Is that good for me or not? Daniel Ebbet from Block Blue Light will sort this out for you. He even provides tips for knowing if you have glasses that are actually blocking blue light or not.

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Do not miss these highlights:

09:46 How blue light affects your sleep and your body.

14:23 Blue light isn’t actually bad. Blue light is bad in the wrong amount at the wrong time of the day or night. 

16:03 During the day, the shorter the wavelength, the higher the energy, and the higher the energy, the more damage and oxidative stress it can cause to the cells.

17:37 Bluelight during daytime raises your cortisol levels too high, and leaves them chronically elevated.

18:10 What can a full spectrum LED light bulb do?